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Gabrielshow24:
Correlation doesn't mean causation 👀.

Simple reasoning shows minute dissimilarities between Jesus and Michael.

One being the fact that Michael was a warrior in heaven, if he then came to Earth being Jesus(as they claim👀) to preach peace🤔 - which begs the question why didn't he turn the left cheek in heaven?

This result in a grave contradiction in character after all God doesn't change🤨, he is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow.

And if indeed Jesus is Michael then he becomes nothing more but an hypocrite 🤔 - a concept which is not possible with the biblical Jesus! 🥲

The other slight difference which his reasoning failed to accommodate, is the fact that all depictions of angels in the bible revolved around them wielding a sword in their hands🤔 whereas in the case of Jesus, his sword is rather in his mouth🤨.

Along with other small cues!
Don't waste your time with him, he never learns.

You can even show him a simple statement A => B; I bet you by the time you converse, you will see it has turned to A => C.

Which begs another question, how dumb do you need to be inorder to become a "JEHOVAH's witness"? 🤨

Gabrielshow24:
When he notices he doesn't have an edge, logically.
He starts committing argumentum ad populum🥲, this is a sign that you have done a great job!

That's his usual rhetorics, amounting to his final defense - what's your church? 🤔

When this happens, just know that he has capitulated; logically hooked by forces of reasoning he can't overcome!

Before all this, he shows severe symptoms of selective amnesia 👀.

In summary, his illogicality is really perturbing!!!

Ohyoudidnt:
Choice of words to deliver the same message.

Hijack a coup, coup within a coup?
Like the smarter thief who poisoned the robbers after the heist.

MaxInDHouse:
I reasoned with what the Bible says about the WORD of God, Archangel Michael and Jesus Christ the three have a lot in common!

MaxInDHouse:
Says you but to these commentators here Maximus is an angel!

Should I bring other's comments besides mine?

MaxInDHouse:
If you quote me i will respond but never flow according to your tune!

MaxInDHouse:
What bad thing have i done to anyone apart from talking about my faith?

MaxInDHouse:
This is where the problem lies because i will never reason with what is not found written in the Bible!

MaxInDHouse:
Just as there is no verse that supported many Archangels.
Now we are progressing!

MaxInDHouse:
They only read my comments just as you are doing and that's what made them say good things about Max! Luke 6:45

MaxInDHouse:
So it's logical to digest an epistle when you find no pleasure in the one talking shey?

achorladey:
The religious organization they belong must be defended at all cost.

Ohyoudidnt:
Perhaps there was a coup within the coup as was the case of the one that ousted the second republic government and the south easterners spared a lot of their own.

MaxInDHouse:
Phrases comes in when you are talking to people who haven't accepted you as a teacher {Matthew 22:17-21} but when i'm talking to someone who wants to learn from me i can talk on and on teaching such a person many things! Mark 4:2

MaxInDHouse:
About Max:

MaxInDHouse:
So there is no verse in support of many Archangels.
Thanks for your time!

Gabrielshow24:
Well, I appreciate your efforts in standing for Christ against those that have nothing but false equivocations to offer.

The same Janosky in some thread defined angel as (man or spirit) that can be sent by God on an errand.

A seemingly yet simple definition that's plagued with unintended implications!!!

In the literal sense of the word, Jesus is a messenger of God - which also happens to be the interpretation of the word "angel".

Based on identity, he is not.
Digging further by probing them into their definitions you can easily see, it's flawed.

It doesn't account for instances or cases where God The Father intends to do something of his own will and does it.

That technically makes God whether they allude is Jesus or not, a messenger - Angel🙃!!!

After all, he is a messenger of himself🤨!!!
You can ask them whether they agree🤔 then you will notice it's something they didn't accomodate for in their initial posits🥲.

This also reflects their own logic against them.
The other cases or extension of that shameless fool's definition, is that as a consequence, the whole of creation became angels🤔 - an unintended consequence from a shallow mind.

Hence from the elegant mind of Janosky, the spirit of trees, to name one, is an angel🤔.

Although he won't allude to it but if you ask him whether or not God could send anyone/anything/any spirit on an errand? You render his elusions void🤔!!!

It's an organization of short sighted and feeble minded individuals!!!

They are very sensitive to logic - not the sensitivity you are familiar🤣🤣🤣

Gabrielshow24:
The point you raised above is spot on!
I have indeed asked them a similar question myself🤔 whether or not Jesus was a fan? 🤨After all, one in a certain place records of him coming with a fan.

A question to this day, they have not provided an answer to!!!

Simple semantics will make you see that "coming with" doesn't equate you with that thing🤨.

Or by someone coming with phone, suddenly equates one to a phone🤔?

Another point, I enjoy is when you raised up the known fact that "Michael is one of the archangels🤨" something to this day, Max and his colleagues have failed to reconcile to the rest of scripture!!!

In some cases, you will find Max blabbing about "first set" 🤔.
When probed further, you will find his "first set" theory - primus conventus - rather implausible as its implications are rather unfortunate!!!

All, I can see is that some men had a preconceived notion of Christ being an Angel - A conclusion, from which they worked backwards to find corroborating premises, neglecting others that "do not fit".

There's little to no difference between them and Muslims, Muslims likewise read the bible from the lens of a preconceived conclusion!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Are you answering Max?

You should have known by now that he has nothing logical upstairs.

All what he speaks are nothing but jw indoctrinations!!!

Use methods of reasoning and logic, table all the verses he alludes to, you will he is saying rubbish🧐.

I saw the other time on some thread where he was disputing with someone to provide evidence, that Jesus is not an angel! - I didn't feel the need to provide response 'cause I have come to a conclusion that he's not intellectually sound!!!

The person should have used his own standard against him, then all will see how quick he is to elude things logically unfavorable to him.

Also, in another thread where Max, was condemning trinity saying it can't be found in the bible.

I laughed, the same way Jesus' equivalent to Michael can't be found in the bible but he very well alludes to it. His hypocrisy didn't let him see that, while the "exact word" is not found, the concept of such is found. The same way his claims: Jesus is Michael 🤨 is not found anywhere in the bible but Jw seemingly allude to its concept by looking for correlations between them.

Know the bible, use logic and you will see Max is very much incoherent!!!

MaxInDHouse:
The title chief prince totally differ from Archangel just as the word prince differ from the word heir.
There are many princes but only one is designated to inherit the throne.
So while the title Archangel is used for only one angel (Michael) the title chief prince is used for many angels who are closer to God than others that's why Paul could say:

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1Corinthans 8:5

There are gods and lords in heaven but only one Archangel has the highest position among them all!

MaxInDHouse:
You guys aren't trained to debate!

First of all if two people are to debate over something and there is no rule or audience to monitor the debate then each topic has to be discussed with few words that's straight to the point each debator want to establish because you will surely cut off lots of statements that you feel is irrelevant to the debate.

So to debate or discuss with me try to focus on a point and use few words not an epistle expecting me to digest all what you wrote remember you're a lost sheep to me so you can't expect me to start digesting what i view as gibberish and the same applies to you!

MaxInDHouse:
Please quote verses where these things are mentioned in the Bible.
Thanks!

StillDtruth:
Clearly, this is the Jws plan of ensuring that his Lies and Lies are planted for as long as the argument goes on.

Thereby proving that he is indeed a true child of Satan.

So it is him and his kind the bible was referring to when it said we should not argue

2 Timothy 2:23
"But avoid foolish and ignorant disputes, knowing that they generate strife (and Lies)

I thought it was only devils and atheists who fall into this well. But now, he proves that both JWs too are members of Satan's family as I have always pointed out

Dalohad:
Dem don smuggle out Ademoyega's names out of the list of protagonists.

kedeojo:
Everybody knows is an igbo coup. IBB is suffering from brain disorder and so I don't expect him to be reasonable again. I thank God he is reaping his many atrocities.

MaxInDHouse:
Right below is my own submission.
Why do you choose to avoid it?

Bible addressed only Michael as the Archangel but if you have another please quote the verse!

MaxInDHouse:
Please provide one verse in the Bible that say this word for word.

Please quote a verse where another archangel is mentioned in the Bible
Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one who first demanded a word for word quotation so it should start from you.

To me everything you people are claiming regarding Jesus being God or Trinity all came from comparing what is found written in the scriptures no verse explicitly says Jesus is God

neither can we find the word TRINITY so instead of asking for doctrines in a word for word quotation we must all agree to see reasons with whatever quotation anyone presents for his doctrine.
From my own point of view Jesus is the Archangel Michael before coming to planet earth!

MaxInDHouse:
That's exactly why i said it's not working unless we can have a direct word for word quotation in the Bible that is undeniable like:

"Jesus is God"
Or
"Jesus is the Archangel Michael"

In the absence of this it's better for each person to hold onto his or her own opinion!

MaxInDHouse:
Would you also welcome my words when i reference the Bible without asking for a word to word quotation?

MaxInDHouse:
Those are your own words not the Bible, i need where it's boldly written in the Bible "Jesus is God"

Thanks!