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kullozone:
yea!
but am still searching to make sure am not making a mistake...but I must confess,you guys(christians)are doing a very bad job on here.

You suppose to know that truth is bitter my brother and you termed it bad job.
The choice belong to you but after race, we count miles

Mellin:
I just hope u open ur 3rd eye so ur guardian will show how blacks where killed by the xtians. And how they where tortured before they give out their spiritual practice which they corrupted to suit their agenda. I just wish

My brother, i have a 2 spiritual eye and 2 physical eyes making it 4....complete....which God gave me but your own is 3....incomplete.....gave to you by satan(3rd eye).
Now come to think of it, Reason it well now show you that God is perfect and complete and gave perfect things unlike satan whose opposite is the case.
My brother, this is fact not only fact but spiritual one. Science look after physical evidence and fact: then we inside of the spirit showcase spiritual ones.
My word is spirit and life.

kullozone:
Oga,your posts are driving me away from christianity the more.
so God just created Esau and gave him to satan
that's wickedness if you ask me...it means Esau doesn't even have a choice,since God has already predestined him to belong to satan.

My brother, not that its driving u away but you have gone out from christianity (a christian drop out) be sincere.

Mellin:
he is a lazy baboon. He won't research all he knows is the silly book called Bible... Tsewwwwww

Off to bed jare

why insulting. Insults does not show maturity.
Science talk about fact and those things i posted were spiritual fact...interpreting it with physical stuff. So u can understand it well.
Keep insults by the side lets reason well my brother.

laskilala:
I want to ask one question to @greato. am not am atheist neither am I a satanist. that is, why is christianity and muslim killing each other.
I know and believe there is God of which my many years in the study of physics, mathematics, logic, programming bears credence to that.when you talk of supremum and infimum.
next question, when the white men were killing our ancestors, did they ever taught of christianity or islam.
3rd question. have u ever ask uaself what the world would have become without religion.
I will like you to open your eyes and understand one thing. christianity and islam were created by one family trying to achieve one destiny. that is THE NEW WORLD ORDER.
they know the day we african discover who we are, the day we take the world over from them. we are the ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THESE PLANET UNTIL ............ lets me end it here. if you want to know more research ooooooo.

*christianity is not a violent religion. I dont know whether your living with us in this planet. Even the OP knew christians are not blood hungers. If you want to talk of violent religion, you that ask the question knew fully well the answer....a religion that fight all time. I dont want to call names. If ur in this planet, you knew it, except your not here.
* The white men that came individually has different agenda....some came for business, some came for colonisation.....some for religion purpose and other things. The religion ones did not kills any man because they do according as how it was in the scripture....Their Gospel is called the Gospel of peace unlike other religion that force people. Christian Gospel is by choice....accepting it or rejecting it(freewill). No forcing on human being...if it is by force, by now you cannot see shrine or idol or native doctors in villages.
*If there is no religion and its law....men will behave as animal.....which behave as they like and lawless. You will not even fill free to live because no law is holding and guilding them.
No insult

Mellin:
ur comments are completely bullshit, and that's y I will keep calm from hence forth. U r been used by the enemies to distract me in this thread but hey am more smarter than u think. Pls keep throwing ur logics to ur likes OK?

Am not to distract bro but the hidden truth which satan cannot tell you. Because he will loose you if he reveal the real truth to you. But remember satan did not know all, just small fraction he new.
No insult

Awoofawo:
If Jesus is God and God is Jesus, the sacrifice that Jesus offered on the cross, is to who then? And who is the imagery father in heaven that Jesus keep refering to everywhere in gospel?

Could you also please enlighten us on where cain got his wife from, for the bible said that God creat Adam and Eve only as first human on earth....

i have answer this question of Jesus and God many times but you did not understand it. Thats why i tell you its a hidden knowledge(mystery, not all man understand it my brother).
Jesus is the word of God. He is the word(Spirit) that worn flesh and came to the world. Why did He came on flesh..... This is a law that no spirit will live on physical earth without a flesh. Before any spirit will live here....they must put on flesh.
About Eve, you have said it. Its God that create her. She did not fall from heaven. The same dust of the earth is the raw material.
Bro, the choice is yours. After here on earth....we must go for eternity then truth shall be known. But it will be late to repent when realise the truth in afterlife. Now is the time of grace bro

Awoofawo:
And the bible said of God "My glory I shall not share with another" so the question now is why do christian relegated God to the background and given His glory to Jesus. It is not unusual to hear christian say Jesus is God, hardly will you hear "Praise God".
Moreover, you claimed Esua original from evil entity ( satan ) on what philosophy or logic you derived that from. Are Jacob and Esua from the same loin of Isaac or what ( you mean the two are offspring of different fathers )

you did not get me....Jesus is the word of God. God and His word is one. Check yourself...your word interprets who you are and what you are inside. So you and your word is one.
I told u that the twins events interprets what is happening in the realm of spirit. They came from one father. This implies that both satan and his breeds came from God and also breeds of God came from the same loins of God. But different there is that satan rebel and begin to brought forth his kind(children of his nature).
Bro, you belong to somewhere...Jacob side or Esau side. You will know this by yourself.
Bro this is hidden knowledge which many lack and go out of christianity.
Mellin knew that my comments are true, if he has reach the height of knowing it. But satan will not tell him the pure truth of it.
No insult

Mellin:
simply admit u know nothing to say about it.. Lol. He rejected the beast u call god and u rejected your really and true God but am still here teaching u about him. So kindly reciprocate

Gotchyaaaa

Sure?

sorextee:
Esau was cheated. He was the real hustler, going out to hustle, while Jacob was the house boy.. Why will a father will all blessings to a particular twin, nd leave none for the other.. that's why Jacob suffered in the hands of his uncle..

you did not read my previous comments. jacob is the rightful child that belong to God then esau the other way round.
Roman 9:10-13 narrate it. Every child born has been predestined to belong to God or Satan. Two type of people on earth....Jacob type of people and Esau type. So this existed also in Cain And Abel. Breeds of God and Breeds of Satan. If you want to understand Bible, dont interprets it literary, go for spiritual interpretation of it.
Those event is a symbol of what is happening on the realm of Spirit.
No insult

[quote author=Awoofawo post=34738070]There are many things in christianity that I can't seems to wrap my mind around!

foremost is the idea that jesus is God

trinity come next and followed by the virgin birth and many other inconsistencies in the bible that I can't find the logic no which base them, am the kind of person alway ask question and don't just accept thing just cause every other people do..... [/quote
Read john 1:1, 14 and hebrew 1:1-3. The word of God is God and His name is Jesus. He is Son of God. Every son must have a name. The name of the Son is Jesus.
So simple. Thats the hidden knowledge( mysteries to be interpreted

Blastfinito:
@Great0, these are other scriptures I'm sure are nt included in the bibke you carry. Sirach, Macabees, Judith, Tobit, Wisdom etc. Pls, tell us something abt them, and why they were recognized but nt included in your holy textbook. Read Sirach below... http://st-takla.org/pub_Deuterocanon/Deuterocanon-Apocrypha_El-Asfar_El-Kanoneya_El-Tanya__5-Wisdon-of-Joshua-Son-of-Sirach.html

And what do you want to use it to do. You reject God and ur still seeking His knowledge to accuse. My brother, not all i will tell you because of the side your in.
No insult

Blastfinito:
Angels are superior to humans and can easily deceive humans, still, u expect Adam to win? What a foolish God!

my bro, replying to all your write up take me time. But let me reply. Adam is receiving knowledge from God at the cool of the day(evening) everyday. Remember knowledge is power. Adam did not apply the knowledge which is his power but he allow the enemy to deceived him.
Remember...dont eat that fruit in the midst(satan planted it thats why i said is opposer.
My English may be poor but overlook it.
Your an Atheist as you sound. My brother dont let suffering or whatever make u to denied God
NO INSULT

Blastfinito:
As an omniscient god, he knew Satan would disrupt Eden. He knew Satan would win. So, why taking the pain of making Eden he knew would nt last. If u rear poultry birds, will u give them freewill, confine them in a cage and punish them for absconding? And if ur birds run away, the day u find them, u should knw they dont knw what they did is wrong. And if u insist on punishing ur creatures because of the sins they committed within their up to 100years alive, should u punish them for eternity? If so, ur God is a monster -- a wolf that feeds off others, a sadist that rejoices when his child testifies to his goodness after healing him of 35years issuing of blood. Can you watch ur child in extreme pain for 24hours? Believing God will heal her, my mother shifted endlesslly on hospital bed, cried with strange voice in agony for 12months. When doctors finally got to the root of the problem, and restored her, she died mysteriously. U sud examine yourself, particularly ur brain. I pray what ur God allowed my mother passed through, he will allow u to pass through same, afterall, he won't tempt you more than what your faith can endure. A junior pilot to my father then, nw has an airline in United States. For what ur god allowed to happen to my father, I will hound Him with that thing u call freewill.

what my mother pass through, i will pass through.
hmm...you dont understand bro, but i love that sentence.

Blastfinito:
Man has freewill, and God also gave Satan freewill to disrupt his beautiful garden? Why should God wait for Satan to cause damage before sending him to the imaginary botomless pit? The truth is that your God doesn't exist, or he is a fool. My mother was an ardent, 'deeper-life' type xtian. My father was a serious xtian that was evangelising to the extent that other pilots at Muritala Muhammed Airport saw him as an extremist in 1980's. My father later dispeared when juju power had effect on him. He was mising for more than 22years. Now he can't have 3square meals in a day. My mother died mysteriously on hospital bed. In my more than 30yrs of serving ur God, I never felt him once. Does that mean my coming to this world is a product of babies had through demonic means?

The woman, your talking about is in bossom of Abraham waiting for her fellow saints in the world and also the trumpet sounding. So dont think for her. If she has a privilege to think. She will be thinking for u to make the kingdom of God.
Also you said you did not felt God at once...you have not seek him wholeheartedly( E.g ur looking for something, then ur heart is divided......one part is where you are looking for the missing stuff, then the other one maybe is in your business place or village or any other place....dont you see your not concentrated). Surrender totally to Him. Then give me testimony later in days or weeks coming.
My brother, out of a love, i said this....you are not destined for destruction. It is your power to make choice(freewill). But make a wise and everlasting choice. Dont join the wagon of devil. Remain bless.

Blastfinito:
Keep clutching on a straw you call God. And don't argue using that textbook called bible again. Were you there when God handed the book to humans? Even if u were there, your brain should tell u dt it is a compendium of impudent lies. I'v read other bible canons like Tobith, they will help you see d lies you are defending.

hmm...

Ganjafama:
You said Satan used the OP's condition to deceive him? If he had remained like that do you think he would have been alive today? If God is a merciful God he would have healed him so as to make him (mellin) love and trust Him more, but He chose not to thus allowing satan win him over. Imagine the zeal he would has used in spreading the word of God if He had healed him.I dont blame mellin, because anything that works for you that's where you put you trust. Guys let mellin be, he has made his choice.

He made his choice. No doubt about it. I gave a chapter un Roman 9:10-13 that if a man came from God, he is of God even though he has never been born again. When time to repent come, he will be born again. Likewise satan, has his own children who are destined for destruction (for they willingly accepted it from their father(devil. You know satan is an opposer and counterfeiter. Whatever God do he like to do it to disrupt the work of God( you may say while did he not kill satan at once for his work... He is a longsuffering God....He gave time for His creature to repent. So biblical example of jacob and esua interprets what is happening in this earth. Jacob belongs to God while the devil put his own esua there to disrupt. Remember i said its an example and also illustration of what is happening in this life. This is spiritual truth which many lack, then they decided to join satan.
So my brother mellin has where he was destined.
No insult

I dont like insult. I dont insult man.
Op. All that you mean about man becoming god and also man knowing his creator. I understand you.
Let me answer you with these.
There are many people who are real evil spirits that came to this world through a woman( some women that collect babies from native doctor or from rivers). And also some sexual intercourse in dreams that give birth to evil spiritual children. They resemble human being in physical but they were breeds of satan doomed for destruction. So those children are the inventors of evil and also an instruments of establishing the programs of satan on earth. Those type of Children or people has their likes, which was giving example of them in Bible.....Cain, Esua etc. So not all human being originated from God. Satan brought his own children in this world which cause a mixed multitude that caused problems to the children of israel. So everyman has his own creator.
See this example in bible
Romans 9:10-13 about Esau.
So the foundation of God
standeth sure having this seal(inscription) ''God knows them that are His'' 2 Timothy 2:19

OP, now u should know where you belong. If you belong to opposite where i belong, am not surprise.....The Word of God must, i mean, must be fulfil

tosag:
This really got me thinking. Why didn't God put the flaming sword at gate of Eden before the fall, since he knew man was capable of being deceived? Moreover he said "go ye multiply and fill the earth" which means that one day overpopulation would force man to move out of Eden. Another thing, God knew that Satan was a verocious being on the prowl roaming the eath yet he went ahead to create man in the same earth and left him at the mercy of satan. Am a christian but sometimes I find some loopholes in christianity which I tend to overlook because we are made to understand that man cannot question God.

my brother, no loophole in christianity. The problem is lack of knowledge of the true spiritual existence of things in this earth. The scripture has said it that He gave this earth to the sons of men. Man was destined to be in the garden. God cannot speak with a double tongue...He has program this place for man to live without trouble.... So He cannot say again, man, you will not be here again because of the presence of Satan. Remember that man has a freewill(power attached to it) to reject the advice of satan. Dont be confuse with christianity. Is just that you lack the deep knowledge of the creation.

Mellin:
SATAN was already on earth? He was casted down here again?and according to xtians he was among the US that created man? get behind me with this your silky story. Let's see better people's answer

Bro, it seems u did not get me right. I said satan is on earth before man was created. The war in heaven took place, after the war, satan was cast down to earth with all other spirits and fallen angels that followed him. They take places on earth to inhabit. Then human being came into existence.
Let me tell u Bro, you cannot see the spiritual truth of the existence of things that be from that place you are operating from.

Blastfinito:
The flaming sword he put at Eden gate after fall should have been there before the fall. He made small Eden out of the vast expanse of the earth, by the time Eden population increases, would he has been expanding Eden? He knew he would chase them out of Eden before putting them there.

these, is ur own imagination which can cause damaging
Everything He created is good till the satan entered

Blastfinito:
'Satan was able to enter Eden, a place of bliss? What a daft God would allow this to happen! He also put obstacle in Eden(forbidden fruit). You need to examine your reasoning ability.

satan is a creature that has his freewill also Adam has a freewill. Adam exercising his freewill by accepting satan advice. Adam has the power to reject it but he did not. So there is no way God can alter with the freewill of His creatures. That satan entered eden and deceive adam~ see satan is subtle and cunning. Angels are superior than human: thats what make satan to easily deceive them. So every freewill exercise has a consequences or reward

Mellin:
with the help of your holy spirit explain carefully the verses I stated above about your holy book saying that Satan is the ruler of earth and Prince of power of the air. And why he Satan was cast down here on earth by your so called god knowing too well he will mislead and decide people and also why the holy book has not in anywhere recorded that Satan has killed and also why your loving god went as far as killing children and others who exercises their freewill. If you can answer these questions then I will quote a scripture for u which no pastor or even Pope has been able to explain...

Am waiting.

let me help u bro.
*Satan succeeded to be the god of this earth when he lured the first family on earth into sin. Man was to be the god but sin is the obstacle.
*Before man was created, satan has already be in the earth. God created man in the garden of eden(spiritual), then satan enters and deceive them, then become naked( spiritual) and was chase out from the garden to the world where they(Adam) have now the nature of its rulers (world ruler).
*John 10:10, 1 Peter 5:8 and other chapter that illustrated his work of killing.
*Revelation 12:3, 4, 5 and Job 1:13,17, 18, 19. You see a being doing the killing and havoc.
*Deut 30:15 God give every man a free will but if u do good as ur choice a reward but if you do bad consequence follow. Just as in natural world where you have judicial, law court, law enforcement agency. Every man will give account on how he live his life on the freewill that was giving.

I hope these will clarify you on your questions. Blessings

what is the questions you said that is impossible to answer

Can you explain briefly about Ashtarot

Can you explain briefly about Ashtarot

Op, you no wan answer me. I wonder

UNTIL....Is this the patience. Ur funny dear

Op, not like that. I did not call you a liar. I wrote from what you said . Sorry if you meant it as liar. I only ask a question

Op, who is this queen of heaven. Help out

This story ain't joke. It's real. I can remember a chosen pastor preaching out there then. But his god couldn't save him.



You don dey lie oo

Blastfinito:
Blind man, u wil remain in the dark for too long. I knw the bible up and down.

that means ur a christian drop out. You know the bible up and down wella but you refuse to let the bible walk /work on you.
praying....For you