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 Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 8:52pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tollyboy5: Do you know why I laugh you...  Your are not the first ijebu guy to have grace nairaland and speak of the temerity of the ijebu people and at the end of the day they were schooled by me Are you aware the name ijebu was unintentionally given to them by the edo people but your leaders won't tell you because it has a sad background attached to it, the Benins had always raided the ijebu people for sacrificial slaves for our idols and so when the European inquired about them, the Benin said oo, you mean the tubu people this were the sound they made when the Benins dropped their corpse inside the river, and the European corrupted tubu to ijebu Refrence y ~ The Rev. S. Johnson, “The History of the Yorubas,” Completed 1897, Published 1921 |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 8:33pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
tollyboy5: You dey whine Benin  Check my screenshot Keyword Obi qurano = Obayuwana Yebou= ijebu Yoruba = yoruba
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| Culture / Re: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 8:24pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
EquitableTech: I would have have agree but no evidence Answer this first..... If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise Secondly provide evidence dating back 1400-1914 that Benin-Ife truely existed either written or evidence in artefact. If you can't provide this then you ha ve disappointed your audience The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware |
| Politics / Re: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 6:02pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
WorldRichest: Na you suppose catch am Your ancestors said worse when the Benin military was about to take lagos 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 5:55pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Padipadi: The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 5:14pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Padipadi: https://www.nairaland.com/7556730/title-called-omo-noba-not#120676518 Read this to know what oba means My question provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefact wise |
| Culture / Re: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(m): 4:59pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Edo own lagos 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 4:57pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Mraphel: You're too old for this lies |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 4:39pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Padipadi: Eweka dad is donbraye Lol you dey ask question like u dey primary school Let me ask you back What is the name of your primary school teachers father? Check my screenshot
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| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 2:21pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
Padipadi: The question is can you provide any evidence that Ife and Benin had any relations prior to 1897 to the time of amalgamation if yes provide evidence dating between this year's To answer your question the father of eweka is a Benin man While you're thinking of the answer to give me read this The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 2:16pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
AreaFada2: The thing is I have to be patience with them even if it entails being in my sick bed My joy is getting the parasitic narrative of our oba being a yoruba man of our history it is parasitic and untrue I decided to dedicate my time at the moment to address it even when I wanted to look away but the yorubas get attacking the oba of Benin in their numbers which was uncomfortable to look away from many Benins didn't even bother attacking back I felt disappointed The igbos and yorubas are constantly on our neck to denounce our history to favour them If u can't fight them with guns maybe words will do our ancestors were never cowards so I can't be one either Like people will say give up nor join |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 2:05pm On Dec 03, 2023 |
KingOKON: Entire lagos nor get mouth, if only the oba knew
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| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 9:14am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Tjra: Am a proud bigot... So as many yorubas who are skilled on it as well |
| Culture / Re: Family Of Late Oba Of Benin Are Tenants In The Kingdom-ogiamen Family by gregyboy(m): 8:39am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Read about the ogiame family treaty here https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150 |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 8:37am On Dec 03, 2023 |
Tjra: It won't be trash if the narrative says oba of Benin is a yoruba man without evidence |
| Culture / Re: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 5:52am On Dec 03, 2023 |
ConfidentialDoc: Tell me one of them like this one beneath you mean The history of oromiyan in Benin was a recent invention in the Bini history it all, started when the edos were in the western region and the then ooni tried to encourage our oba 2b one of oduduwa sons even making him 2nd after ooni, the oba accepted d roll not until tribal baglash from other yoruba kings against d oba of bini and the need to leave western region became paramount |
| Culture / Re: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 5:51am On Dec 03, 2023 |
EquitableTech: Oba of Benin from Ile Ife in your dreams If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise |
| Culture / Orun Oba Ado - Was The Work Of Jacob Egharevba A Benin Historian by gregyboy(m): 5:49am On Dec 03, 2023 |
The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement was our very own benin historian with the name Dr egharevba who had several imaginative writeups in his earliest historical works of friction, at this time the edo people was still in the western region. he wrote against the benin people to promote his carrer in the western region the benin people had found themselves although is father was a benin man his mom too was a yoruba woman from ondo state, he wrote with no authority and was not even close to the palace, his works lack referencing other than just selfish intrest his later works were he corrected most of this notion, was not made circular by the yorubas that took his baseless works serious never the less frank willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place in nothing happened to be have found in them ascertain to the earliest work of dr Egharevba as works of friction Refuting https://www.nairaland.com/7924393/oba-benin-went-ile-ife |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 5:45am On Dec 03, 2023 |
ecolime: Qoute me directly don't be scared repeat what you said |
| Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Went To Ile Ife To See Where They Buried Past Oba's Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 5:43am On Dec 03, 2023 |
The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement was our very own benin historian with the name Dr egharevba who had several imaginative writeups in his earliest historical works of friction, at this time the edo people was still in the western region. he wrote against the benin people to promote his carrer in the western region the benin people had found themselves although is father was a benin man his mom too was a yoruba woman from ondo state, he wrote with no authority and was not even close to the palace, his works lack referencing other than just selfish intrest his later works were he corrected most of this notion, was not made circular by the yorubas that took his baseless works serious never the less frank willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place in nothing happened to be have found in them ascertain to the earliest work of dr Egharevba as works of friction |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 11:26am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Mraphel: Evidence eeeh.. No evidence move.... The setting of oba of Benin is yoruba name the setting Na by force you won turn our oba to yoruba man |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 8:26am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Mraphel: You can download and expand it Read it so it will kill the little ego you think you have don't be afraid read it, Speaking of igodomigodo did you read my writeup all you're just hell bent on making sure Benin must be yoruba by force I threw a question at the ending I will give you another one to add to it. How come throughout history the Europeans that took and noted every Benin war and culture ever notice when the oba of Benin was carrying the heads of the previous oba to Ife But notice how Benin dominate the ebtirw yoruba people Lastly provide me any historical evidence that date back 1897 to 1914 that support any firm of Benin and Ife relationship If you can't then you're simply wanting to force Benin as yoruba to massage the yoruba ego |
| Culture / Re: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 7:59am On Dec 02, 2023 |
Mraphel: Haha.. You are not new here when we beat tao11 out of nairaland u saw all of it as it unfolded yet you still come at me with thesame lies I have scrunitize And renderd useless over the years, the most painful part is that you saw it unfolded why you still dare to challenge me with the same old lies baffles me I will engage you because you're not a youngster here so I will let it slide Please read and digest those writeup in the screenshot I sent ... Benin influence was not pronounce in most place in lagos apart from lagos island which was the sit of power this does not mean ikeja and it's environs was not under the Benin command, mind you it was only 3 general that was stationed in lagos after it was brought down by the Benins, so don't expect 3 people to influence the entire landmass of the present lagos state The third screenshot shows that the entire yoruba and the ijebu people was influence and feared by the oba of Benin command 1 Like
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| Culture / Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(m): 5:30am On Dec 02, 2023 |
As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co.... The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded 1 Like
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| Politics / Re: The 62 Lagos Township And Their Founders by gregyboy(m): 1:15pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Basic123: You think am an Igbo man take your rant elsewhere |
| Politics / Re: The 62 Lagos Township And Their Founders by gregyboy(m): 12:38pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Iamgrey5: First bring the source of the towns found by the 62 settlement of lagos The Benin had influence over the ijebu people. And hence the name ijebu was coined by the Benin who refrence them to Europeans who had inquired about them source - samuel Johnson, the history of yorubas The ijebu was constantly raided as sacrificial slaves by the benimswho were constantly captured for sacrifice to the Benins God's and would be slaughtered and beheaded and the rest of their bodies dumped in the river - samuel joshson History of yorubas The Benins formed areas like lekki and other edo related names found in lagos till date |
| Politics / Re: The 62 Lagos Township And Their Founders by gregyboy(m): 12:37pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Basic123: England found some settlement in Nigeria like port Harcourt and go organised Nigeria and gave places their names Benin did thesame |
| Politics / Re: Ownership Of Lagos; Balogun Of Eko Abisoye Oshodi Responds To Oba Of Benin by gregyboy(m): 12:15pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Oshodi as a matter of fact is an edo name 2 Likes |
| Politics / Re: The 62 Lagos Township And Their Founders by gregyboy(m): 12:12pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Padipadi: Benin controlled the entirety of lagos and Ijebu if you want to argir I will bring source you're just a small boy who is emotionally paralysized 1 Like |
| Culture / Re: The Title Is Called Omo N'oba And Not Oba by gregyboy(m): 12:06pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
..... Go |
| Culture / Re: Another Reason Why The Benin Ife History Is A Lie by gregyboy(m): 12:05pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
... Heloo |
| Culture / Re: The Militancy Of Pre-colonial Igbo Towns Is Underrated. by gregyboy(m): 5:02pm On Jun 09, 2023 |
Thebadpolitican: 1 Like |
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