According to what the europeans documented from the oyo prople about ife in 1824, the oyo people referred to the ife people as strong idol worshipers unlike them, they saw the ife people as monks who were devoted to their idol worshipping and as such the oyo people revered and believed the ife people could be the centre of the world, for this single reason, it gave importance to ife town in the formation of yoruba history prior to amalgamation. There was no mention of the ooni in the documentation because as at that time they never knew if a person or title like that existed in the first place , awolowo was the one who made ooni of ife a king from a priest he was, according to the ife people the ooni was a mere priest who was a strong idol worshipper, then after amalgamation there was a need to unite all yoruba under one historical and political umbrella the history of oduduwa in ife becoming the father of all yoruba monarchy was born so as not to make any king a lesser king to the other they accepted direct migration
From Ife to their new found kingdoms, and made a priest who was the ooni the traditional head .the history of oduduwa coming from mecca is as a result of yoruba muslim trying to seize ownership to oduduwa and oduduwa coming from benin is a mere tribal war which started in the western region that made the bendel people pull out of the then wester region


The significant of the ife artworks before amalgamation, there was an international attention in 1910 when Leo Frobenius, a German ethnographer, discovered bronze in ife, this gave another reason among the yoruba tribes in accepting ife has a focal point in the formation of the new identity called yorubas, before the amalgamation of Nigeria in 1914, which has already saw the discovery of ife art in 1910

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Although there are still some Europeans who wrote the truth despite the widespread misconceptions about Benin, the benins did once take part in a gesture whereby they provided workers for the Portuguese in exchange for their good friendship to work as laborers in the Portuguese colony of Sao Tome and Principe. However, they only did this for the Portuguese and never for any other European country. the relationship between benin and Portuguese lasted for 200yrs from the 1400 to 1600, tho this gesture by the benins to the Portuguese never lasted that long before the benins ended it on the terms of morality the benins believed the souls of the people gifted without the people approval could bring bad omen to their land The Benins and the British had a rift not because the British intended to end slavery as they made us believe, the act already being a taboo in Benin, but rather to gain control of palm oil, and in 1700 Oba Adolo made a decree to officially punish Benin merchant who engaged in the act of slave trading illegal.
Before the arrival of the first Europeans, the Portuguese, the benins controlled a large area of territories. The Portuguese refused to sell benin weapons on the grounds that it was a pagan nation, so benin never gained power as a result of Europeans or her trade with Europe merchants. not until the arrival of the Dutch in the 1600 who were willingly to exchange guns with benins for Benin local goods like pepper, ivory tusk, clothes, local wine, although the benin employed the help of European military assistance against her enemies in few occasions, the benins were wealthy because they were economically independent even when the European decided to sanction benin trades they saw the benin weren't really affected the only way to stop benin was to attack it to get full control of the Niger area now called Nigeria

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UGBE634

In the past before the creation of Nigeria, tribes were very territorial and migration could only happen in mass to gain strength to to be able to fight if they ventured into an unknown territory, if you ventured into a territory as a looner you're likely to be killed or taking captive by people who you ventured into their territory even Europeans wrote on this and requested the Oba of benin soldiers to access the hinterland in their exploration

The question is how did izoduwa venture as a looner from benin forest and passed several territores without him being caught....


And how did the yoruba people send their prince to rule benin with just few messengers who could easily be outnumbered by people from territories they came across with while coming to benin, if they sent an army how come the army presence wasn't felt in the benin palace, no names of yoruba chiefs, no name of bashorun balogun in the palace or benin history

My point still stand benin and ife never had a relationship and the forgery of oduduwa of an history in benin. Happened after 1914, when oba Eweka sort political alliance with the the ooni of ife during the indirect rule system of government, and the the history of oduduwa coming from Ife to benin history was formed to identify oba eweka11, of benin. as an oduduwa son, after some years in the western region benin sort out to leave the western region, because of tribal attack by yoruba leaders accusing edo people and oba of benin as not a true son of oduduwa that the Oba of benin couldn't speak yoruba, but yet he held second position after the ooni of ife, and when the benins finally pulled out of the region the story of izoduwa was born by the benins to write the forged history that was being promoted to insult the benin people and her monarchy



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It is wrong to call the Oba of benin just the word oba, very wrong oba is the short form the European used to describe his original title
Which is omo n' oba, omo n' oba on the other hand is also a short form the benin people use to refer to the omo n'oba of benin the full title
Is Omo n’Oba N’Edo Uku Akpolokpolo meaning
"The child that shines shines or come through for the edo people and the giant being"
If you hear anyone using the title oba of benin always know it is wrong and inappropriate and was a short form the European used to describe the Oba in their document the short form reconginse by the edos is omo n' oba which can be pronounced as omo no' ba
Further more the yorubas are using the wrong title to describe themselves and their kings this is quiet understanding because the word oba is alien to the yorubas

OGIE
Ogie has many prefix from different edoid clan, ogie is a general word for kingship regardless of the position be it enogie, onogie, Ovie, ogie could be liking to the word Government regardless of the position be it a governor, president or a local government chairman, we can say an ogie is coming and could be refering to an enogie who is a Duke and we can also say an ogie is coming, and we could be refering to the omo n'oba of benin when we say ogie we mean royalty which are dukes, kings prince just like the word government

OBA
Oba like I said is the short form used by Europeans to refer to the omo n'oba of benin
No one in the entire kingdom or empire bears the title, the names in benin who has prefix with the word oba, like obaseki, obasohan were personal confered titles made by the Oba of benin to honor the person, it is forbidden to use the word oba without being confered by the Oba in the entire empire and this is the reason you cannot find the word oba as a prefix name in the entire empire but rather ogie which could be liking to the word government or royalty

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christistruth01:



Tao11 you are being missed

Happy New year

Hope everything is ok

He/she ran out of lies or probably accepted the truth

And they killed Deborah for even a smaller crime


Why are we sharing same country with this aboki self

Omo e should better keep the dread, he looks like a criminal from the creeks after the haircut

Eblike na former armed robber give am d cut

laiperi:
Sorry, that was s computer auto correct.

Tell us where you are from.

Certainly not from any Royal House IN Edo

Everyone is from a royal house in benin no family you won't visit that was a never in the royal lineage now or before now

englishmart:
If the kitchen is too hot, leave. This thread isn't for simpsons. Go and bury your head in a pus.sy.

I love pussy I pay to Bleep it, because it's not expensive broke niggas make it look like pussy takes their life savings away....

I can spend 100k on myself within 2 days, and what I will spending for all my chicks within a month won't be upto 15k.... Tell, me why should I be complaining of debit alert from the opposite gender

I prefer a society were I pay the bills and I command respect from who I pay the bills for

If you alpha males want a society were you split bills go to europe, then you will know all that glitters is not gold

Alpha mail abi alpha male😒 una need carry una agender to something meaningful

Alpha mail keeps disturbing nairaland and her peace the topics they create are like that of a 16yr old

How much woman won chop for una hand 2k5

And how much do you guys spend a day if you all alpha male wants a society were the women provide for themselves go to europe

That's were the alpha male shit began

macof:


I'm sure the man is intelligent enough to understand the concept of data collection from vast sources.
Ogiamien, Oba Palace, Usen, Ife, older Benin accounts as recorded by Europeans etc

That is after all how history is done properly

Lets not go far, oduduwa was a female first, the history of oromiyan written by Samuel j the originator said he ventured into nupe areas to war....



Samuel Johnson brought the ife, and oduduwa fairy tale into lime Light in 1897 with his book

laiperi:
Greyboy, you harbor serious inferiority complex. What is your beef?

Tell us where you come from, certainly not from any royal house I'm Edo.

You're edo and so what...

MoneyMustBMade:


I dey Bleep dem bro

You should have married them


Since white women is an achievement for you

MoneyMustBMade:


Lol
Young man am a married Igbo business man.

I have used 2 airports regularly for my business, Heathrow and DXB so you should know the country if you're a traveler, so calm down

Why you nor marry d oyibo if you really longed for them...

Married man for that matter I expected better from you I was thinking you were a teenager who still needed to see life better

MoneyMustBMade:


Na rubbish white girl you date. Low self esteem make you date rubbish, if you want to date, you select a girl to date not asian girl oo
Date a young westerner

You when never comot Nigeria

YourMajesty:
Your boyfriend really do you shege. F*ck your mom and he still f*ck you then dump you two cheap Olosho's for his ex.
What a guy.

Are you in drugs

If the white skin so entice you first try albino very close to white

MoneyMustBMade:
Somehow op is right o but not all, at least I have slept with 2, they are clean both down there with neat lap and pussy, I mean young ladies oo.

I have chase some naija girls that are beautiful many times but very disgusting down there but not all oo.

If you want spotless naija girls go for normal girls or even working class girls.

But you see all these jobless entitlement naija girls with heavy make up going around with beautiful faces always have some spot down there and sometimes smelling pussy with fallen breasts.

Many used to package there breast with bra.

I have dated 2 white girls they both smell, can't even tell them what to do,
Them nor still get yansh or hips dated them to accumulate wealth

Reminderz:
never tell a girl you like her before she does... just get close to her and act as if you guys are dating already... command respect as if she's your girl

Lol, she will put you in your lane

Xeeex:


I don't think what you said is true. White women are one of the most loyal women. There are exceptions of course but white's are more loyal.

A white woman will stay and support you when you're broke but a black woman will day that a broke man shouldn't be in a relationship.

have you been to a white country if no

Then please stop talking with boldness and stop misleading people with your baseless thought

A white woman live your broke ass and start giving you issues when you have no money

Your right as a man in the house would be reduced to that of a child, that's if she won't attempt to murder or you murder her for mistreating you...

LINSAR:


The aim of your post is to belittle me so I'll leave you to wallow in your ignorance.

Your ignorance did that, I hope you're cruising because this redpils is more liking to cruising thesedays

Most guys forming redpillers are secondary student on this forum

LINSAR:


Your gold only knows how to bring pussy to the table while our silver brings every support a man needs to the table.

If you take your gold abroad, she will be freaked by how much power women have and can abuse the power.
Our silver was born and brought up there, they are not freaked by the power because they are used to it.

Your gold has entitlement mentality by believing you should assume the position of her father once you start dating.
Our silver work hard for their money and will still support you with it.


Being with a woman is beyond physical attributes.
I'll pick a flat ass and small breast Oyinbo with good character over clitocurrency traders and pussypreneurs anytime anyday and twice on a Tuesday.

Haha women are the same everywhere in the world even the white women working still expect you to be the bread winner in the home, food is very cheap so if the pay for a date that shouldn't be a big deal you should be able to assist her finically because you're deem to have a better job than her untop that you can't command her for shagging anyhow you go end up in jail ....

Now how old are you, am thinking you're 16,

If you're older than this then you need a knock

A white woman won't even marry you if they smell you're broke or not rich, dey there they dream....

I prefer a society were I can solely feed my partner and in return I can command full respect from her, not a society were we split bills and she wants to form equal right in the home


I know you will get older and you will grow wiser

UGBE634:
Agbede is an Etsako town, if there was no stint of yoruba in Edo, how did she get the name Agbede, these are issues we don't want to address! Agbede cannot be translated in any of the Edo languages, only yoruba literally to mean blacksmith, this also goes to lay to rest the fact that in the distant past, yoruba was also spoken in Benin where the Agbede group migrated from. Automaticmotors, gregyboy

Even if we are to forcefully belive what you type up there as truth

What of the esan how come they didn't retain the yorubaness since we are talking of migration here the esan migrated too out of benin


Oga go sleep

It is just normal Geography areas close to border between too ethic group would definitely be mixed

UGBE634

UGBE634

Tao11