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PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 3:52pm On Dec 04, 2023
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Putinofrussia:
Oba Eweka 1 of Benin and all subsequent Obas of Benin were Yoruba.
The first king of Lagos was a Yoruba man from Benin who met the Aworis who were also Yorubas.

History cannot be twisted because you want to cheat the Ogiamien family who fortunately,has evidence with them.


The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
Yoruba founded a part of Benin that uses Oba....Ogiamien of Benin..

https://www.google.com/amp/s/guardian.ng/features/ogiso-and-ogiamien-are-aborigine-binis-while-oba-of-benin-is-of-yoruba-descent-high-chief-esotericist-monday-wehere/amp





[b]High Chief Esotericist Monday Wehere, JP explained further: “What is today known as Benin Kingdom started as Igodomigodo nine centuries ago. It was founded by Ogiso Igodo and it existed for 300 years before King Orominyan of Ife invaded Benin. During that invasion, Orominyan fought without any success. Before then, Orominyan came to Benin with a strategy. He brought a large number of Yoruba men into Benin long before the proper expedition. These men went into relationships with our daughters who started having children for them. By the time Orominyan came to attack Benin in 11th Century, the number of the Yoruba-born children was high. In spite of this, however, he still failed in his attack.

When Orominyan was returning to Ile-Ife without achieving his aim, as one of the strategies they invented, he deliberately impregnated a princess, the daughter of an “Enigie” – duke or king in Benin under the then Ogiso. The princess’ name was Elimide. He left her behind before returning to Ife. It was Princess Elimide that gave birth to the first Oba of Benin, Oba Eweka 1, who, after becoming an adult, was invited back to Ile-Ife, alongside other children they had secretly produced through our daughters without our knowing their game-plan.

Up till today, they still live in a place called Yoruba Quarters in Benin City. It was at that Ile-Ife meeting, which had Eweka in attendance that these children were told the reasons they were given birth to in Benin, that it was Oba Orominyan’s desire to use them to overthrow the then Ogiso Erebo and his dynasty, which was then known as Igodomigodo. They were all made to swear to an oath never to betray Eweka, who was to become the Oba of Benin, if they eventually succeeded.

Expectedly, this particular war was protracted as many people died on both sides. The carnage was much. It was, however, difficult for the then Ogiso to use extra force, as he felt his grandchildren were being used in the war. He kept saying the children being used by the Oba to prosecute his war were children of Benin daughters, even though they were now supporting their father’s side to fight the Ogiso.

It was at this point a truce was called. As there were no victor and no vanquished, Ogiso Erebo was told there was no way this large number of children born by Benin women for Yoruba men could be repatriated, since they had already been integrated into the heart of Igodomigodo. He was told the only way to maintain peace was for him to divide Igodomigodo into two kingdoms. Let the oba take a part, while he would hold on to the other part.


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PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 3:43pm On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:
Gregboy ! give us the Previous Oba of Benin Praise names that you mentioned the pre 1914 Amalgamation ones !!
Answer mine first completely then I will answer yours then when you can use both to compare

While at it

Read my works if you don't read them others are reading tho silently


Are you aware the name ijebu was unintentionally given to them by the edo people but your leaders won't tell you because it has a sad background attached to it, the Benins had always raided the ijebu people for sacrificial slaves for our idols and so when the European inquired about them, the Benin said oo, you mean the tubu people this were the sound they made when the Benins dropped their corpse inside the river, and the European corrupted tubu to ijebu

PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 3:28pm On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:
It is not invalid
Otherwise why is Benin Palace using it

It was you who said that it was ex 1914 Amalgamation praise names for Oba Of Benin

Oya give us the previous one
Screenshot boy

Because it's a fun game that emerged in the western region the game of supremacy that has no base in real history reason why he is the first oba to list it there

PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 3:26pm On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:
So why did Egherevba Benin Historian write about the founding of the Oba dynasty by Oranmiyan and why did the Oba Of Benin reward him by making him a high Chief afterwards

As we speak the Oba Of Benin's Palace has listed Oranmiyan as the first Oba of Benin

It is you calling them liars

This is the same Oba Of Benin declaring Oranmiyan to be the first Oba of Benin

It is you who said that he is lying


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Qk8LO4t1OY?si=5h5JZUHTJ9LA2-j2
Oba of Benin rewarded him your source please
Refrence

Lastly are you aware most of his earliest works were rewritten and corrected by him
grin grin

Maybe you should read his works and not rely on hearsay
PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 3:20pm On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:
You always love going off point gregboy

That is the Current Oba Of Benin Praise names

Anyway present the Pre Amalgamation Oba of Benin Praise names so we can see if Ekhalerderhan and Izoduwa are there I know they were not because even in the 15th Century Oba of Benin told the Portuguese that Ooni of Ife was his father

By the way Ife also Founded Benin and the Ogiso dynasty there
Thank you for say it is the Current praise name meaning it's invalud

Is the praise name or the author have any ifilation to the palace of the oba of Benin, because anybody can go to the Internet thesedays and write anything

I already know it's current I just wanted you to say it with your mouth

So who is the author to were you saw the praise name does the author have ant affiliation the palace and where his is source of information coming from


Read this

https://www.nairaland.com/7683383/another-reason-why-benin-ife


Ogiso
https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150
PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 3:11pm On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:
You always love going off point gregboy

That is the Current Oba Of Benin Praise names

Anyway present the Pre Amalgamation Oba of Benin Praise names so we can see if Ekhalerderhan and Izoduwa are there I know they were not because even in the 15th Century Oba of Benin told the Portuguese that Ooni of Ife was his father

By the way Ife also Founded Benin and the Ogiso dynasty there
Evidence to everything you say
Atleast mske refrence, put screenshot

Read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 2:16pm On Dec 04, 2023
Christistruth00:
Oduduwa was the first Oba of the 2nd dynasty of Ife Kings


grin

If Ooni of Ife turns up in benin and Claims the Throne and Kingdom of benin he too is also right


Ok, Let us look at the praise names of oba of benin

One of it is
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).
(Odua of Ife is the same as oduduwa of Ife)

Another of oba of benin's praise names is

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila
oduduwa was also known as Olofin Adimula
Which was his Title

Notice there is no mention at all of any Ekhalerderhan of Igodomigodo or izoduwa a whole Crown Prince of Benin that got lost and the renowned Accomplished Benin Palace Praise singers are not at all interested in his case
It can only be a lie

They did not mention and neither are they looking for the lost Ekhalerderhan .

izoduwa too is not happening anywhere in oba of benin's praise names but they called Oduduwa , the great Odua of Ife his Father

So with their own mouths they themselves have already given the evidence that fully demolished and destroyed their case which had no legs to stand on in the first place and have confirmed with your own Mouth that the oba of benin was indeed oduduwa's Son
There is nothing left to drag because it is settled
Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe>>^ can I see the refrence the date it was published and the authority any evidence presented after 1914 meaning after amalgamation is invalid



Why we are that


Read this

https://www.nairaland.com/7683383/another-reason-why-benin-ife

https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150


Answer this

If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise


Answer this


provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefact wise


Read this


The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware


Lastly checkout my screenshot

PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 12:55pm On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:
Stop telling lies as it please you. I'm neither Yoruba nor Benin, but I think this issue of Yoruba starting Benin Royal lineage has been over discussed and Benin people refuted that claim
Thank you

They always use the false history to massage their ego after a Benin history humiliating them pops up

It's simple after the oba made the statement on how lagos belongs to Benin in the visitation he could have just said we all are yorubas and from oduduwa if he indeed by into such ideology

Read this when you can

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware

PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 12:18pm On Dec 04, 2023
Supremos:
And you didn't see the owned in parenthesis?.

By the way, that's how vanguard reported.

Apparently you didn't read the interview, you're only here to run around.

The woman said it's not all parts of Lagos.

She said she's of Benin lineage.

The owned is in parenthesis.
Rest. Ewu
It's all part, benin found in lagos boss

The influence was only dominant in lagos island

My screenshot badary to island and even ijebu was under Benin control

PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 12:14pm On Dec 04, 2023
Enugurangers:
The truth is the Yoruba >>>>>>Benin..
Yorubas expanded all the way from Ife to all over west Africa. Benin instead shrunk and never expanded. Benin language is only spoken in Benin, they worship Yoruba gods too. Their royal line was started by a Yoruba man. They met Aworis all over Lagos. The tiny region they occupied for a while in Lagos is an extremely tiny faction that they also could not hold for long. Ashipa is a Yoruba man.

No amount of revisionist will alter the truth.
Ife found Benin in your dream

https://www.nairaland.com/7683383/another-reason-why-benin-ife


https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 10:13am On Dec 04, 2023
Mraphel:
Oranmiyan history was forged by the western region? What kinda lunatic thinking is that? Are you saying Oba of Benin history in Edo was forged?
Have been told u Benin people are Starck illiterate. Why have bronze casted of Oranmiyan in Benin of over 1500 years old.
Your Oba palace recognized Oranmiyan as the First Oba during the Coronation making him 40th Oba.
We have many streets named after Oranmiyan in Edo state.
Please think deeply before quoting a Yoruba man not just assume things.

Pic attached. Oranmiyan was the first to brought Eshin (horse) to Edo state. The bronze depicted Oranmiyan as an Oba here.

Eshin (horse)

Abebe

Ada

All these are Yoruba words from Ife and instruments brought by Oranmiyan during his warfare in Igodomigodo land.
Do you know who you're talking to you're vividly aware when we trash this horse and the artefact entirely when tao presented it


So why are you still bring it up

By the way this is a 16century artwork and can't be your imaginary oromiyan in Benin
Benin create their artwork immediately an event took place and not many years after, when the people who experienced it may have died, this is an igala warrior as we know in history benin and igala went to war in the 16century with Benin coming out victorious and horses were taken as spoils of war, so benin trading relationship with igala brought horses to Benin even before the idah war

That hair dress could also be a benin soldier on the horse

First pics below

Second pics below shows this horse men you tagg oromiyan are nupe warriors that Benins depicted after their wars with them which match the date of the artworks

CultureRe: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 11:08pm On Dec 03, 2023
[quote author=EquitableTech post=127299005]Why is the Oba using Yoruba name of King title Oba? Is Oba a Benin word?
answer me small underage boy.

Ogiso is benin version of Oba while Yoruba is Oba.
Oba of Benin lineage is from Yoruba while Ogisos are the aborigin of Benin and Ogiso is the title of their King. Befor Oba of Benin can be crowned till today, he must pay for the purchase of the land from the Ogisos...that signifies Ogisos as permanent landlord and the Oba of Benin as permanent tenant.
The question u should ask urself now is where does the Oba of Benin originate from...why is he regarded as a pamernent tenant in benin? Why does he have to pay for the purchase of the land before he can be crowned?
The answer is simple....He's the offspring of Oranmiyan, son of Okanbi, the only son of Oduduwa from Ile-Ife Oodaye.[/quote

Click this to read about ogiso rulership


https://www.nairaland.com/7928662/yorubas-too-dey-lie-history#127271150
CultureRe: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 11:06pm On Dec 03, 2023
EquitableTech:
Why is the Oba using Yoruba name of King title Oba? Is Oba a Benin word?
answer me small underage boy.

Ogiso is benin version of Oba while Yoruba is Oba.
Oba of Benin lineage is from Yoruba while Ogisos are the aborigin of Benin and Ogiso is the title of their King. Befor Oba of Benin can be crowned till today, he must pay for the purchase of the land from the Ogisos...that signifies Ogisos as permanent landlord and the Oba of Benin as permanent tenant.
The question u should ask urself now is where does the Oba of Benin originate from...why is he regarded as a pamernent tenant in benin? Why does he have to pay for the purchase of the land before he can be crowned?
The answer is simple....He's the offspring of Oranmiyan, son of Okanbi, the only son of Oduduwa from Ile-Ife Oodaye.
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefact wise

Read this while I await your answer

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 11:04pm On Dec 03, 2023
Mraphel:
Truth will come very soon that will overtake the lies your palace dey lie up and down. Alawure of Usen still senior your Ogiso of Benin.

I don't regard him as Oba again. Your palace nearly remove Oba Oranmiyan from Benin history all because he came from Ile-Ife. He was the real warrior that established Obaship and disposed Ogisos of Igodomigodo. but they couldn't. They forgot Oranmiyan is not only part of Benin history but part of several town that migrated out of Benin and Ile-ife history even in SS and SW.
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or physical evidence


Read this while I await your answer

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 10:50pm On Dec 03, 2023
tollyboy5:
Yebou x= ijebu
Since the british came ijebu were called jebu in their earliest report.
Your screenshot no talk anything. ASk your ogiso about the Ijebu why benin feared awujale
Dey play was there a define spelling then for tribes people spell as they pronounce and it was not only the british that ventured into our shores
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 8:52pm On Dec 03, 2023
tollyboy5:
You wan deviate. The entire ijebu clan were paying tax to the awujale.
Nobody should ever distort history of ijebu territory. Nowhere in history has ijebu being controlled not until the British magbon war against awujale. The ijebu were very fetish and conservative that expansionist have really avoided those territory.
From the fulani empire to the oyo empire and the Benin empire.
The oba of benin might have not want any war that would provoke the ijebus to take over Benin city. We owned the lagoon around ibeju-lekki to Epe. Those paying royalty to benin are the aworis along the Lagos island.
Do you know why I laugh you... grin grin
Your are not the first ijebu guy to have grace nairaland and speak of the temerity of the ijebu people and at the end of the day they were schooled by me


Are you aware the name ijebu was unintentionally given to them by the edo people but your leaders won't tell you because it has a sad background attached to it, the Benins had always raided the ijebu people for sacrificial slaves for our idols and so when the European inquired about them, the Benin said oo, you mean the tubu people this were the sound they made when the Benins dropped their corpse inside the river, and the European corrupted tubu to ijebu
Refrence y
~ The Rev. S. Johnson, “The History of the Yorubas,” Completed 1897, Published 1921
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 8:33pm On Dec 03, 2023
tollyboy5:
Dont drag the ijebu into your benin kingdom dominance. That tao11 was a propaganda historian.
You should know that the ijebu kingdom has nothing to do with the benin. The ogiso of benin really feared the ancient ijebu people reason why the expansion ended at the area between ijebu and benin (Ondo state).
The oyo empire also avoided the ijebus.
So dont drag the ijebu people to your drag with aworis.
You dey whine Benin cry

Check my screenshot

Keyword

Obi qurano = Obayuwana
Yebou= ijebu
Yoruba = yoruba

CultureRe: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 8:24pm On Dec 03, 2023
EquitableTech:
Why is the Oba using Yoruba name of King title Oba? Is Oba a Benin word?
answer me small underage boy.

Ogiso is benin version of Oba while Yoruba is Oba.
Oba of Benin lineage is from Yoruba while Ogisos are the aborigin of Benin and Ogiso is the title of their King. Befor Oba of Benin can be crowned till today, he must pay for the purchase of the land from the Ogisos...that signifies Ogisos as permanent landlord and the Oba of Benin as permanent tenant.
The question u should ask urself now is where does the Oba of Benin originate from...why is he regarded as a pamernent tenant in benin? Why does he have to pay for the purchase of the land before he can be crowned?
The answer is simple....He's the offspring of Oranmiyan, son of Okanbi, the only son of Oduduwa from Ile-Ife Oodaye.
I would have have agree but no evidence

Answer this first.....

If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise


Secondly provide evidence dating back 1400-1914 that Benin-Ife truely existed either written or evidence in artefact.

If you can't provide this then you ha
ve disappointed your audience


The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
PoliticsRe: Eko Row: Benin People ‘Owned’ Lagos, Awori Paid Royalties To Them - Erelu Abiola by gregyboy(m): 6:02pm On Dec 03, 2023
WorldRichest:
Let Oba of Benin come and collect Tax nah, make MC Oluomo and his boys catch him
Na you suppose catch am

Your ancestors said worse when the Benin military was about to take lagos
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 5:55pm On Dec 03, 2023
Padipadi:
I v read your post. You v given your meaning and it's fine. Afterall it's Edo people that can write their history. However, if Oba in Benin had no single phrase meaning except you extract it from omo'noba iku akpolopolo etc, how come the Oba has no meaning?
Iku akpolopolo suppose get it's meaning, Omo go get its own, oba go get its own.
What's the meaning of omo and iku akpolopolo?
We are getting to a very interesting point.
The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 5:14pm On Dec 03, 2023
Padipadi:
😂 Eddie Donbraye Oranmiyan abi.
You see, in my quest for the truth I found logical and historical evidence.
If I was very famous I. Nigeria, I ll go public and speak so that my msg can be widely heard.
Now answer one more question before I open cans of worms. Make sure you invite wise & honest Bini people.
What's the meaning of Oba?
What's the meaning of it's vowel & consonants letters?
Does it v deep root in Benin language? If so what does it mean deeply?
https://www.nairaland.com/7556730/title-called-omo-noba-not#120676518

Read this to know what oba means

My question
provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefact wise
CultureRe: The Name Lagos, Was Called Ekonunuame By The Benins by gregyboy(op): 4:59pm On Dec 03, 2023
Edo own lagos
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 4:57pm On Dec 03, 2023
Mraphel:
A lot of Edos were sold onto slaves. Your Oba was not exporting anything to Europeans except Edo slaves. The place is called IDumota till now.

It means a place of selling Idu people and Idu people are from Edo state.
You're too old for this lies
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 4:39pm On Dec 03, 2023
Padipadi:
Gregory aka Gregboy, your Benin kings confirmed all I wrote o. They knew Oranyan gave birth to Eweka. If you say no be him, no p. Who come be Eweka's dad o?
Cos I no know how benin people go mumu allow southwest people rewrite their history of not for inferiority complex and that's what's making you to lie.
Who's the father of Eweka if it's not Oranmiyan?
You Benin cockroaches nationwide, una pride too much!
Eweka dad is donbraye grin

Lol you dey ask question like u dey primary school

Let me ask you back

What is the name of your primary school teachers father?


Check my screenshot

CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 2:21pm On Dec 03, 2023
Padipadi:
Now sftu!
I v history that tallied with that of ya king.
But here's a question for you kid. Who's the father of Eweka?
The question is can you provide any evidence that Ife and Benin had any relations prior to 1897 to the time of amalgamation if yes provide evidence dating between this year's



To answer your question the father of eweka is a Benin man

While you're thinking of the answer to give me read this

The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 2:16pm On Dec 03, 2023
AreaFada2:
@gregyboy, I commend your patience. But it seems you have to educate many generations of history twisters.

Sadly, many of those arguing history thinking it is Yoruba patriotism don't know their GENUINE family history beyond 4 generations. Not to talk of history as a whole. Many are even Tapa slaves in Yoruba land originally.

They are not interested in any objective discussions. Years ago, I proudly narrated my Edo and Yoruba side for all to know that I have every reason to be objective. I wanted to be a bridge builder. But for most of them only lies and bigotry will do, so na waste of time.

Very sad.
The thing is I have to be patience with them even if it entails being in my sick bed
My joy is getting the parasitic narrative of our oba being a yoruba man of our history it is parasitic and untrue

I decided to dedicate my time at the moment to address it even when I wanted to look away but the yorubas get attacking the oba of Benin in their numbers which was uncomfortable to look away from many Benins didn't even bother attacking back I felt disappointed

The igbos and yorubas are constantly on our neck to denounce our history to favour them
If u can't fight them with guns maybe words will do our ancestors were never cowards so I can't be one either

Like people will say give up nor join
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 2:05pm On Dec 03, 2023
KingOKON:
Shey Oba don tell Dem final final for inside Eko?
Now people from ogbomosho okitipupa oshogbo go de run dem like say dem be lagosians

They were paying heavy tax to the Oba, only the Eguns of Badagry get mouth for Lagos every others were paying tithes while any chief must report to the obas palace for certification
Entire lagos nor get mouth, if only the oba knew

CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 9:14am On Dec 03, 2023
Tjra:
It will still be a thrash if you say "Benin people too dey lie"

You painstakingly wrote a piece but messed it up by rubbishing an entire tribe with your title.

Not a good way to pass message no matter how much you loathe the other people.
Am a proud bigot... So as many yorubas who are skilled on it as well
CultureRe: Family Of Late Oba Of Benin Are Tenants In The Kingdom-ogiamen Family by gregyboy(m): 8:39am On Dec 03, 2023
CultureRe: Yorubas Too Dey Lie, The History Of Ogiame And The Oba Rift by gregyboy(op): 8:37am On Dec 03, 2023
Tjra:
A lenghty piece of thrash
It won't be trash if the narrative says oba of Benin is a yoruba man without evidence
CultureRe: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 5:52am On Dec 03, 2023
ConfidentialDoc:
The Yoruba Oba is only covering a multitude of secrets which a common Bini man wouldn't take lightly.
Tell me one of them like this one beneath you mean


The history of oromiyan in Benin was a recent invention in the Bini history it all, started when the edos were in the western region and the then ooni tried to encourage our oba 2b one of oduduwa sons even making him 2nd after ooni, the oba accepted d roll not until tribal baglash from other yoruba kings against d oba of bini and the need to leave western region became paramount
CultureRe: The Truth About Yorubas And Benin Connection by gregyboy(m): 5:51am On Dec 03, 2023
EquitableTech:
Take time to read. I'll help you.

Besides, the title of their King is Yoruba...Oba is Yoruba language. If u also ask around the Palace, they have a place call Yoruba Quaters till today.

The Ogiso people are the aborigins of Benin while the descendant of the Oba is from Ife.

Till today, there's a ritual of purchase that must be done before a new Oba of Benin can be installed...

“The Ekiokpagha treaty is the compulsory rent a new Oba-elect must pay before he is pronounced an Oba of Benin kingdom and before he is also allowed occupation of the Benin kingdom leased to Oba Eweka 1 by Ogiamien Erebo in 12.00AD.” “The Ekiokpagha treaty clearly defined the status of Ogiamien as aborigine and permanent landlord while the Oba of Benin kingdom as a permanent tenant,”

The Oba of Oba of benin is from Ile Ife...hence the title Oba. The King title of the original Benin is Ogiso.
Oba of Benin from Ile Ife in your dreams

If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise

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