Gregyboy's Posts
Nairaland Forum › Gregyboy's Profile › Gregyboy's Posts
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 (of 222 pages)
jaymichael:How come the idols both the benin and yoruba share together that yorubas happens to claim came from them can't even found in the palace of the oba of benin, why also? Why does the oba of benin not dress in an ife attire since inception, no corrupt yoruba names of chiefs that could tell the benin palace had a transformation at a time, no yoruba idols, where is the evidence unless the name oba we share together and we all know it was taken from benin to yoruba lands during our conquest in their lands |
jaymichael:I see you have gone tl read and you have learnt you just repeated what you habe been saying back to me nothing new... Even one of oba of benin praise name is his own name, omo no'ba nedo Omo = child No= that Ba = shines Oba=its shines Nedo= for edo You can go, amd fumd this word in, tje dictionary word to word, if it says something different screenshot it and send to me to make it easy ask, a benin person orally you are free to record it, i mean ask a benin person every single word that i broke down Stop using yoruba interpretation on a benin word.... Lastly while you're at that you can help me answer some few more questions How come the idols both the benin and yoruba share together that yorubas happens to claim came from them can't even found in the palace of the oba of benin, why also? Why does the oba of benin not dress in an ife attire since inception, no corrupt yoruba names of chiefs that could tell the benin palace had a transformation at a time, no yoruba idols, where is the evidence unless the name oba we share together and we all know it was taken from benin to yoruba lands during our conquest in their lands |
jaymichael:Lol..appellation Go and find every meaning of the word that makes the sentence if they still mean what you're putting up there then you win.... Until then you have an assignment You still have lot to prove i listed many buttress in my last mention to you which you have decided to skip but then wallow only on emotional blackmail from a book you're forcing meaning to I will advice you to visit my profile to get a brief recap about what i stand for.... For ages Until then your dictionary readings are full with emotions if the author wanted to explain omo n'oba he will explain it separately |
Stephen0mozzy:The oba of benin is in a game or was in a game Of superiority battle with yorubas this thing started during our time in the western region as they insulted the oba of. Benin during western region meetings the pay back was trying to overlord the with the forged history they saw it coming and they refute it Ife and benin historically never meant but the yorubas even tho they know this will never quit because when we edos tell our glorious history they feel hurt by it the way they can get back is to tell the fake history of oromiyan sojourn in benin |
jaymichael:You can find the word piece by piece if the dictionary is we detailed instead of being ecstasy about the word omo... The dictionary was only explaining omo (child) in the sentence omo n'oba nedo... Only the omo... To further help you you can go and search for the different meaning that makes up the word Either orally or literally you already got omo and oba because we both share same word thanks to we benins for introducing it to you lot you can go further to ask for the rest instead of concluding you know every syllable in the sentence that is not even yoruba When you're done then ask yourself Why can't they find idols that both yorubas and edos tend to share in the palace of the benins it can only be found in the street of benin as utility idols, why is the oba of benin not dressing in yoruba oba attire since inception, why is there no corrupt yoruba names of chiefs that came from ife to form the oba dynasty we should see names like Balogun if not the exact name but a corrupt form, or even names of street . Our imprint in yoruba lands can be felt... Without any deep search our edo families can be found in Lagos, ondo and Co even the names of our street, our artworks can be seen in ondo Lastly the other thing that seem similar again between benin and ife is the artwork that both made in the past but still distinct apart, the designs are different, the materials are different the ideology for the usage is different, while the benin artworks were found in benin, that of the ife artworks was found scattered all over osun which further suggest ife wasn't the originator of this artworks |
jaymichael:Did it say child of the oba.. If he is to explain it that would be another topic in the dictionary |
jaymichael:Did he say the child the meaning of omo n'oba Is the child of the oba? Nope! It was only explaining the omo in the attachment with the rest words and at the end it made it know, omo no oba is a king Stop misinterpreting to justify your own thought he never said omo n'oba means the child of a king it was only using omo n'oba to explain omo as an example If you're to belive your own thought then ask yourself apart from oba what else did oromiyan fairytale bring to the oba palace...you can use as evidence You're fighting for yoruba ownership of oba alone but left other evidence |
jaymichael:Do you mean... The one i marked with red...? It only said appellation! don't you know the meaning of appellation? It wasn't even giving the meaning of omo n' oba but rather it was still on a discussion on omo....
|
jaymichael:Lol.... I don't have a good eyesight please you can help me encircle it |
jaymichael:Please circle the omonooba in the dictionary |
illicit:Unless proven Oba from ife came to benin not Urhobo, not Agbor but benin yet he came, without leaving a footprint unless the name... His regalia are edos, ada and eben is edo, the wives dress edo, all the names of the chiefs in the palace are edo names lastly there is no idols like ogun, ayelala yorubas are dragging with benins that belongs to them... In the palace of the oba od benin Ao what evidence can you use to convince me That the king od benin came drom ife... |
illicit:From the fairytale of oduduwa |
jaymichael:Omo no'ba nedo ukwapolo( the child that shines for the edo people Omo =child No= that Ba= shines Ne= for Edo= we benins I have broken it down we edos don't speak yorubas so i don't know where the ni, and the yoruba interpretation is coming from Benin and ife never even had any interaction until after 1914 oromiyan fairytales was forged During indirect rule system, but yorubas wont rest about it because it hurts their ego so bad about the reality Lastly underline your point in that edo directional i don't get what you're trying to make out of it Lastly we have ovbioba(child of the oba) Ovbiogie(child of a Duke) |
Stephen0mozzy:I don't believe you're benin maybe igbo or yoruba but, i believe you base there Anyways... All titles given to kings has meaning to the particular culture the word may signify a position, or any role The word president mean ruler.... But to the Roman's it has a deeper meaning because they own the word they know the atory behind it..... |
.... Stop using yoruba interpretation for benin words, stop it... Omo n'oba.. The n' cannot be omitted which yorubas are currently doing to give a yoruba false meaning why are they skipping the n' in the word.... Its like saying, i am going! in English another person says, i am also going! there is a big difference between the two words tho look alike but the 'also' is a big difference there and it changes everything Omo n'oba which can also be spelled as omo n' ba is the appropriate short form of the king of benin title.. Oba is the corrupt word used by the Portuguese and European and yorubas. Omo n'oba nedo means the child that shines for the edo people... The oba title is a praisal name If it was the otherway around like you interpreted as a son of the oba, that would be 'ovbioba' not 'omo n'oba' in benin Note we benins never addressed the oba of benin as oba instead omo n'oba which was the appropriate short form... Until after the creation of Nigeria the name oba of benin became widely used and accepted by the edos And till date the edo locals still address the king in edo language as omo no' nedo The word oba had come into the yoruba lexicon through benin conquest on thier land its a usually thing to know to the title of thier overlord and they had referred him as oba The oromiyan sojourn myth is a fairytale , |
Christistruth00:Read this The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware |
Mraphel:Did you read this very history on this thread or you skipped it, I never said ogiso was a lie, they were not just one ogiso Ogiame history it's a Benin based history that didn't involve yoruba The name Benin was from itsekiri warnings While we are at that read this If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise
|
Mraphel:Guess what same history I have been pasting for you for years is gaining likes by your own yoruba people on Facebook, even if you refuse to accept the truth your children will that is for sure Am schooling your own yoruba people their real history on fb and on X |
Mraphel:Read my screenshot please provide me Any Evidence Of Benin-ife Connection Prior To 1475 To 1914, written or artefact wise The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware If truly yoruba or oromiyan came and found Benin, why is there any yoruba corrupted names, title that ls found in the oba palace why is the oba and the chiefs not dressing like yoruba? why is the oba palace not speaking yoruba and why is there no yoruba idols in the palace I begin to wonder if the yorubas are using this cheap lies to win an argument over the Benin people, lastly have there been anyone who will deny is father for any reason if truly the oba of Benin is from Ife why is the oba of Benin saying otherwise
|
Mraphel:So the white people who did the research used their money to travel to Nigeria do the research and also have acess to all Benin artworks for proper examining are lying Did you go through the screenshot I can only belive you if you post a yoruba man recent or ancient with that regalia the man wore on the horse or you're nothing but a bigot Did you read my writeup.. At all Read this extras The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba. Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1 |
Mraphel: this one na force o by fire by force even without evidence |
The untrue history of Jacob Egharevba popular works - orun oba ado The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba. Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1 |
The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba. Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1 |
TruthsFM:The historian who first came out with such a fallcious statement that the oba of Benin heads were being buried in Ife, was a benin historian with the name Dr jacob Egharevba. Egharevba earliest work is a mix of oral traditions and speculation which he corrected in his later works, however as a matter of fact it's a traditional practice in Benin that kings of the various vassals state, under Benin control would come back to bury the previous king heads in Benin in order to notify the oba that the previous monarchy was dead this journey to Benin can only be carried out by the incoming successor who will stay in Benin for months or years to learn the ways of the Benins before going back to take his father's position as king. however this practice was never a tradition in ile-Ife as no other of the supposed oduduwa sons had a burial site making it suspecious and fallacious from Egharevba who was equipped with the Benin oral history and had mix oral tradition of the Benins with his imagination to forge the orun oba ado tradition which he termed in his book `Ile Ife the final resting place of the oba of Benin' Egharevba had writing with no consultation or whatsoever and was not even close to the palace to begin with, his works lacked referencing other than just pure selfish intrest he could derive from the then watern region the edos where under at that time, Frank Willet a french historian did an excavation on the very orun oba ado site in 1969 hoping to find some truth in what yoruba belive to be an historical site, all nine site the excavation took place was empty and nothing was found in them it is of most importance to note that at the time the supposed myth of oromiyan visit to benin, her name was still called igodomigodo and not yet ado that originated from oba ewaure a long distance predecessor of oba eweka 1 |
raskymonojendor:
|
raskymonojendor:As we may have it Benin wasn't organised or a powerful kingdom in the early times, in the beginning they were several villages who had Thier various leaders called ogiso they were several ogiso( sky kings) in the various settlement of Benin. at this time Benin was not one, the various settlement with their own ogiso existed independently. there were no one ruler, until a man called evian, killed a spiritual beast that had been disturbing the various villages surrounding Benin. which the various Ogiso heads couldn't handle and he found favour in the Benin community and the villagers came together to make him the oba of igodo. he ascended the throne as eweka the first He was blessed with mystical powers and the people likened him as the son of a God, the Ogiso who refused to surrender their sovereignty where forced and the kingdom was formed, this several ogiso heads became chiefs in the new kingdom called ogidomigofo Which later renamed as edo during oba ewaure reign and turned Benin during the Portuguese arrival who had corrupted Ile binu from the itsekiri warnings that had earlier told them not to venture into Benin City during their arrival and inquisition about the edo people Years after eweka had died his son expanded the kingdom further Benin on several occasion Lost some villages under the kingdom that had to be brought back through force, the king of the sea (ogiamen) was a powerful ruler who had ruled the river banks of Benin is territory was independent of Benin even when the Benin kingdom was long establish, oba ewakpe who was a conquerer had waged war on his kingdom that lasted for years but his kingdom was too strong to be defeated lots of lives was lost until an agreement was reached by the ogiamen that Benin would one day take over his territory which was a sure thing, because Benin was flourishing and expanding unlike his territory and that if they have to join Benin that the oba of Benin would respect is terms,and that every oba that ascends the throne would always come and buy his sovereignty from his family at every coronation in terms of paying homage and that if the contract is broken they can choose to live the kingdom, this practice continued for centuries until after Benin empire was brought down by the British and that tradition was stopped by the oba, the only way the ogiame family could use to attack the oba was by false acclimation Of his illegitimacy Just the way the yoruba were brought into one canopy by awolowo during the formation of Nigeria so as evian who became the first oba of Benin united the kingdom The Benin kingdom consist of the 36 Benin families The Benin empire consist of lagos, ondo, ekiti, delta and Co.... The yorubas and other tribes that have issues with the oba of Benin would always use the screenshot to support their claims that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, not until you ask them, if there is any trace of yoruba titles or names or even idols in the oba palace that can trace that the oba of Benin is a yoruba man, then they will be left dumbfounded |
anonymous1759:The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware |
raskymonojendor:. Oyo empire never existed |
Christistruth00:Answer mine first you're not the only yoruba I am schooling o, make it snappy |
Christistruth00:Answer mine first you're not the only yoruba I am schooling o, make it snappy |
raskymonojendor:The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware
|
6 Putinofrussia:The history of oromiyan in Benin was formed and forged in the old western region to intergret the Benins and the oba as yorubas even to the extent of giving him the second position and displacing the alafin who was originally the second after the ooni of Ife although tho the oba of Benin accepted this offer at first but things didn't go as planned the other yoruba monarchs and together with the alafin of oyo was not happy with this new arrangement that the oba of Benin who is second after the ooni of Ife can't even speak yoruba language and so many other complains ensued from there, again the oba of Benin had a fall out with awolowo and other benin political aspirants and as a result pulling out of western region became thinkable and as soon as Midwestern region was created the oba of benin refuted the false history and the yorubas kings fired back and soon after the oba of Benin forged a counter history of ekaladeran and since then the history that started on falsehood became held seriously by many people who are unaware |

this one na force o by fire by force even without evidence