UGBE634:
Agbede is an Etsako town, if there was no stint of yoruba in Edo, how did she get the name Agbede, these are issues we don't want to address! Agbede cannot be translated in any of the Edo languages, only yoruba literally to mean blacksmith, this also goes to lay to rest the fact that in the distant past, yoruba was also spoken in Benin where the Agbede group migrated from. Automaticmotors, gregyboy

What are you saying


Are you this wise🙄

Did you see any artworks in agbede to prove your point they were blacksmith did you see any relics of artworks in agbede to further prove your claims to be fact I guess no

Because the name sounds yorubish then they must have come from yoruba no other thought comes into your head at all


Agbede sounds edoish too

Ede' = could mean day
Agbe = you can't beat

Meaning "you can't beat the day"
It can also be interpreted as such in edo language only the agbede people can explain better

Do not also forget during the slave trade yorubas militia raided edo North some settled there and never left some yorubas ran from Thier home town due to war to settle with the edo north people

If you put this little information together it will help you to understand why the edo north has an element of yorubas in them instead of imagining some nonsense primary school oromiyan history

What of if the edo people were the people who settle last amongst the orginal agbede people who were originally yoruba, did that thought come into your mind because they trace origin to edo doesn't mean the original habitant were original edo

AyemafugeILAJE:
So because I was traveling to a particular place, I began to chat with gals from that area on Facebook.
On getting there I called this gal in that area so we can meet, hangout and talk.
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Before I could order, cos I quickly left to pee,

she don order beer for herself... Lol...I was like omoh....gal no dey dull at all. I used to think most babes they like form....not this one.
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While we were drinking and gisting...she gave me a hint that she won't mind peppersoup. So we ordered.
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After the peppersoup, she called the waitress and asked about their chicken. Obviously, she wanted a taste of the chicken.
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So I obliged. I was just too surprised to say otherwise. Now . It's not about the money, I swear, I am just surprised she dint even exhibit any form of inhibition or shame.....At least , we are meeting for the first time
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This gal is radiant and pretty, doesn't look hungry at all. A black and shine bbw babe with great curves and you know, big curved yansh...and some mesmerizing dark and white eyeballs....she doesn't have this Olosho vibe o...looks like normal gal.
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So after we discussed for a while, I told her about my status...she was like, ka ma la ara wa...lol...mẹaning : Lẹts be fucking ourselves in a friend with benefit tone...very casual tone...
..I was like omoh....this gal no geh time o...
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She can't be older than 23...but she's got this big elegant body..
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Well from my scrutiny, she's not so schooled.
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Then a call came in, she left for about 20mins before coming back...I was just amazed at the series of bad behavior a gal will shamelessly showcase meeting a guy the first time.
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She later asked about where I was based , I told her, then she says she could visit if I don't mind...lol
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I was like, do you like travelling so much..she says yes..that she had only returned to the base just two days ago....I said okay
In my mind I was like, no be my place u go come...lol...And she really meant it ......when I expressed doubt about the possibility of her coming cos my place is like 8hrs far, she was like she would come if I promise to pay her tfare...she even asked me to stake a bet... I remember joking that if she came, that I would give her belle within one week...we both laughed
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Omoh....I shock o...the kind gal wey dey these days ehenn...
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When we were to leave the bar, I try to cash from an ATM nearby to pay our bill... unknowing our bill was bigger than I had calculated. She chimed in and said she collected another extra Chicken...
haaa...lol....how? when, was it when she went out for 20 mins? I was little embarrassed, not even angry, but she was not....some babe no geh shame o...
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Before we left during our conversation, she asked what I do...I said I sleep for living....
.she laughed and gave me a disbelieving look...
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This is why most guys fvbck those gals and close mouth. Yes I could have done so. But I wasn't Hot or interested all along...... I was only enjoying her company. She was fun and free though....ready to follow me anywhere I was going that day.
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While we were leaving, somehow, she cornered, a particular amount, remant from her paying our bill...I think like a change...we both know, but she just felt so comfortable and entitled to hold on to it..lol....
Gals dey o..
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I doubt if u ever met a shameless girl as this.
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Stop writing about girls write something to help humanity

Girls girls everytime on this forum una nor dey tire

You're going to a new place you nor chat your fellow man na woman you see go chat all for what some possible shaggs in the future

Doyou2019:

But Nigerian culture has gone south too. Look at ill-trained kids all over the place and their chicken-head parents who should have no business raising kids in the first place.

Our culture is gone too, bro, so find another excuse


Anyway, make I shaperly answer for our resident urchins sha : It's the fear of losing their agberoism, laziness and penchant to gleefully support evil in a world that won't tolerate it.

Yes they have and mostly from the western influence

No matter how South Nigeria has gone it would never be way south like the westerners

The fear or raising my children there

The western culture used to be manageable but thesedays they are going nut


I go manage my naija

Nawa oo maybe if were developed enough we could colonize this western countries and instill discipline in their culture

Facts still remain if not for the white the black labourers shipped from their country by the white who they call themselves bantu would have been living in a shit hole worse than my country

All they know how to do is Bleep and get underage pregnant

And sort all means to pour out their jealousy on innocent Africans with their constant xenophobic attack
Thanks to the white south Africa is looking beautiful

immanuelsize:

are you equally saying that Mbappe is a gay?

Na my mouth you won hear say fowl talk

Trans girlfriend nawa for oyibo oo


Indirectly he dated a man

duro4chang:
What is your business about Yoruba history? Face Benin at leave the Yoruba and their history alone. Are you the one that will teach people their history?

I won't have any business with it if it wasn't involving an edo monarchy in lagos

The story involves an edo monarch so I must interfere

You're trying to tint the edo monarchical history, which I don't like, I don't have issue if you do your imaginary migratory pattern with a yoruba monarch but not with the edo monarchs in yoruba lands

They migrated from only one place which is benin

AreaFada2:

The bolded is what the British wanted. To cut us from our people East and West and make us look smaller than we are. The beneficiaries of the contraption (though all are paying the price now under herdsmen attack) continued after 1960, currently with talk of 7 LGAs.

How can people with folks in Eastern Yorubaland and Lagos, Delta, Anambra, Bayelsa, Rivers State, Benue and beyond be a minority? No, we are not. Izoduwa has correctly highlighted the point often. Sure, Edo South SZ may not be huge population wise today, but that's just recent politics.

We have always punched heavily, pre-1897 and increasing post 1897. It takes a huge amount of resilience.

Some people are blessed edo is one of them

Sometimes I wonder how we got out of the British war that ravaged our city apart yet we are still soaring in every aspect in Nigeria including politics

duro4chang:
HISTORY OF IGANDO TOWN LAGOS
About six hundred years ago, Igando was founded by the BINI extract from Eru-Etan village. The traditional history revealed that the founder of village was Ezeba-Onimaba, Oko-Osi and Eshidana. From the notes given to us by Oba, the three founders migrated from Ile-Ife to Bini as hunters (on a hunting expedition) and traders (buying and selling) and in search of a village settlement. At that time, Ifa, the great Orunmila who says the mind of the ancestral gods was consulted for guidance on the particular area of settlement. The three founders: Oko-Osi, Eshidana and Ezeba-Onimaba whom the incumbent Oba of Igando is the descendant, then embarked on the journey, but reached a point where there was a three “Ant hills”; it is called ‘IGAN-ODO” in a Yoruba parlance. Ifa oracle was again consulted and the great Orunmila told them to make a village settlement at the area respectively. The Ant Hills-”IGAN-DO” was compacted to what is known today as”IGANDO”.
It was written that beneath the Anthill, they planted Akoko tree called OGUN, as the Ogun shrine is still feasible today. However, other idols brought by them are ALE, EYIGBA, OLUWWAIYE, ORO, E GUN GUN AND OSUGBO CULT. After some time, Ezeba-Onimaba later moved to an area where he built his huts with Imo-Aba and the area today is known as “IMOBA”.
Today, Imoba is one of the four quarters of Igando. Igando is divided into four quarters namely: Imoba, Isalu, Idojigbo and Isunbajon. These segmented areas have traditional administrative authority, each of which is headed by a white cap chief. History reveals that the Title of Onimaba was hereditary and could only be conferred on the Descendant of Oro-Otun Onimaba, who is the only male child of Ezeba-Onimaba, which is why the Descendant of Oro-Otan is known as “OMO ORO-OTAN ONIMABA EKUN”.
It was also noted that Ezeba beget Oro-Otan Onimaba , Oko-Osi begets Oyero and Eshidana had no issue. He came to Igando with a beaded crown and after time, Eshidana moved to Ijegun and Okerube because he had no issue at Igando. After his demise, the title of Onimabo was changed to ONIGANDO OF IGANDO.
Igando since inception have witnessed the Ruler ship of the following monarch: Oba Eshidana, Oba Ezeba Onimaba, Oba Oro-Otan Onimaba, Oba Oyero, Oba kafaru Shodeke, Oba Ogunbewon and the Incumbent, Oba Lasisi Gbadamosi (1978- till date).
History has it that the Rulership of Oba kafaru and Oba Ogunbewon was an imposition on the people of Igando, because Shodeke, the Egba’s and Beku from Imore joined Igando after it had been settled for about Hundred Years. Other family who later joined the original founders are: the Isikan, Salu Kosoko, Oshoboja, Oduntan and the Akeju’s families.
In a bid to reclaim the Oba -ship title from Beku and Shodeke families, who are the tenants of Oro-otan Onimaba family of Igando, the original Title bearer of Onimaba, the people took a giant stride by selecting through Ifa Oracles, Oba Lasisi Gbadamosi from the family of Oro-Otan Onimaba as the Oba of Igando and was installed on August 3 RD , 1978.
The village was included in 1890, a list of subsidized colony Chiefs and described by title of “OBA.
TOWNS THAT SHARE BOUNDARIES WITH IGANDO
Towns that share boundaries with Igando are: Egan, Idimu, Isheri, Egbe,Ikotun, Ijegun, Abaranje and Akesan.
THE TRADITIONAL GODS IN IGANDO
The traditional gods are: ODO-EGBE, OGUN, ELEI-IGBA, ODUN ORO AND EGUN GUN accordingly.
OCCUPATION
Farming and Trading.

Stop twisting history must every yoruba king come from ife,

What sort of wrong migratory pattern is that from ife to benin then benin to Lagos


All in a bid to trace their throne directly from ife to avoid being called a second class king

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duro4chang:
HISTORY OF IGANDO TOWN LAGOS
About six hundred years ago, Igando was founded by the BINI extract from Eru-Etan village. The traditional history revealed that the founder of village was Ezeba-Onimaba, Oko-Osi and Eshidana. From the notes given to us by Oba, the three founders migrated from Ile-Ife to Bini as hunters (on a hunting expedition) and traders (buying and selling) and in search of a village settlement. At that time, Ifa, the great Orunmila who says the mind of the ancestral gods was consulted for guidance on the particular area of settlement. The three founders: Oko-Osi, Eshidana and Ezeba-Onimaba whom the incumbent Oba of Igando is the descendant, then embarked on the journey, but reached a point where there was a three “Ant hills”; it is called ‘IGAN-ODO” in a Yoruba parlance. Ifa oracle was again consulted and the great Orunmila told them to make a village settlement at the area respectively. The Ant Hills-”IGAN-DO” was compacted to what is known today as”IGANDO”.
It was written that beneath the Anthill, they planted Akoko tree called OGUN, as the Ogun shrine is still feasible today. However, other idols brought by them are ALE, EYIGBA, OLUWWAIYE, ORO, E GUN GUN AND OSUGBO CULT. After some time, Ezeba-Onimaba later moved to an area where he built his huts with Imo-Aba and the area today is known as “IMOBA”.
Today, Imoba is one of the four quarters of Igando. Igando is divided into four quarters namely: Imoba, Isalu, Idojigbo and Isunbajon. These segmented areas have traditional administrative authority, each of which is headed by a white cap chief. History reveals that the Title of Onimaba was hereditary and could only be conferred on the Descendant of Oro-Otun Onimaba, who is the only male child of Ezeba-Onimaba, which is why the Descendant of Oro-Otan is known as “OMO ORO-OTAN ONIMABA EKUN”.
It was also noted that Ezeba beget Oro-Otan Onimaba , Oko-Osi begets Oyero and Eshidana had no issue. He came to Igando with a beaded crown and after time, Eshidana moved to Ijegun and Okerube because he had no issue at Igando. After his demise, the title of Onimabo was changed to ONIGANDO OF IGANDO.
Igando since inception have witnessed the Ruler ship of the following monarch: Oba Eshidana, Oba Ezeba Onimaba, Oba Oro-Otan Onimaba, Oba Oyero, Oba kafaru Shodeke, Oba Ogunbewon and the Incumbent, Oba Lasisi Gbadamosi (1978- till date).
History has it that the Rulership of Oba kafaru and Oba Ogunbewon was an imposition on the people of Igando, because Shodeke, the Egba’s and Beku from Imore joined Igando after it had been settled for about Hundred Years. Other family who later joined the original founders are: the Isikan, Salu Kosoko, Oshoboja, Oduntan and the Akeju’s families.
In a bid to reclaim the Oba -ship title from Beku and Shodeke families, who are the tenants of Oro-otan Onimaba family of Igando, the original Title bearer of Onimaba, the people took a giant stride by selecting through Ifa Oracles, Oba Lasisi Gbadamosi from the family of Oro-Otan Onimaba as the Oba of Igando and was installed on August 3 RD , 1978.
The village was included in 1890, a list of subsidized colony Chiefs and described by title of “OBA.
TOWNS THAT SHARE BOUNDARIES WITH IGANDO
Towns that share boundaries with Igando are: Egan, Idimu, Isheri, Egbe,Ikotun, Ijegun, Abaranje and Akesan.
THE TRADITIONAL GODS IN IGANDO
The traditional gods are: ODO-EGBE, OGUN, ELEI-IGBA, ODUN ORO AND EGUN GUN accordingly.
OCCUPATION
Farming and Trading.

Stop twisting history must every yoruba king come from ife,

What sort of wrong migratory pattern is that from ife to benin then benin to Lagos


All in a bid to is or her throne directly to ife to avoid being called a second class king

AreaFada2:


Evian and descendants were never "ogisos". Only administrators. Obaseki and some chiefs like Obakhavbaye and Ero administered Benin when Oba Ovonramwen was in Calabar. Obaseki was not a king o. Same with Evian and his folks after Ogiso Owodo and Esagho saga.

Nobody regards them as any ogiso at any point.

Don't buy into Aristo and supporters' fairy-tale.

As for Usen, I know the place well enough and the story. Better to just leave that one aside. The inconsistencies are like that of Oduduwa.

I wanted to draw attention of our people to Igando in Alimosho/Lagos thread about Ife hunter that first went to Benin. From Benin, he moved to Igando.

A straightforward Benin founder had to be made to first be from Ife before going to Igando. Because in Yorubaland, if you don't somehow link your ancestors to Ife, you are fake.

All Baale's and obas are manufacturing Ife links. Because 50 years from now, the descendants of those who don't claim Ife will be outmuscled by Ife/Oduduwa claimants. You know how the tussles and court cases over traditional stools can be fierce in SW.

See Igando link here below:
https://www.nairaland.com/7482734/history-igando-town-lagos#119188660

Gregyboy
UGBE634
AutomaticMotors
Etinosa1
Samuk

They will always link their history to ife, they so do this to avoid being called second class king

So they link their root directly to ife

As for usen, the usen are the closet neighbour's to ondo and as a result the reason for the mixing between them and yoruba there is nothing special there...

If the palace doesn't come clean about the false history people will always use it to attack is legitimacy in the throne

samuk:


Elawure of Usen wants to be independent of Oba of Benin, unfortunately, he is in Edo south, same with Ijaw people in gelegele that want an independent ijaw king in Edo south.

Now I get, for what they will be crushed

They are edo and they will bow to the law


Iyan mwenmwen

samuk:


Yes Edo is going to be great again. Final plans on the cultural district was submitted to governor Obaseki today, the German government is sending a 40 man delegation to Benin city next week. The diaspora in already playing a great role and more to come.

Ugbe is from Ugo not Usen. Ugo, Isi, Urhonigbe etc in Orhionwon all have more prominent contributions to Benin history and traditions compared to Usen. Ugbe is a nice guy, do not forget some of us once believe the Benin/Ife connection.

That's is true, but people should stop using the false history to judge the oba illegitmacy

And the oba on his part should make polices to unite edo people instead of upsetting the edo people with his actions

I really don't know the issue the oba have with the usen people but that man was extremely bitter towards it

samuk:


Not just TAO11, I think many people have seen that the Benin/Ife story doesn't hold water.

Oduduwa himself didn't exist in early Yoruba history as a person. How can someone that didn't exist as a human being in early Yoruba history be their father and ancestor of oba of benin.

Its only ugbe that refuse to accept the truth I guess he has something to benefit from it which he has refused to say I am thinking he is usen, to show how we have done justice to the fables of the ife and benin tales people in nairaland don't create topic about it anymore

I saw your post on the edo remittance to Nigeria it pained me I missed it, I was quite busy yesterday our edo brothers are not playing oversea

I hope one day Nigeria become a better place and so they can all come home with their knowledge to build the once mighty empire to his glory

Edo to the world, the only minority in Nigeria that looks like a mjour tribe

olahero:
International Ashawo remittance plenty

You're sick

samuk:


I can see you are really having a tough time with the Thebadpolitician

The truth is you are the very few on this forum that still believe that the Oba migrated from somewhere. Most of us on this forum have gone beyond this, we are now trying to sort out the confusion that came into Benin history after 1897. There is nothing presented so far to support the oba coming from Ife. Ife doesn't necessarily mean Uhe.

I recently saw the video where Imaseun Izoduwa disgraced with the Esogban on the Ife story, mind you Izoduwa is also very close to foremost Benin historians and palace chiefs.

Anyone that will be taken seriously on Benin history will have to produce documents on Benin history dating from 1896 and backward to the 1400s to back up what they are saying.

It should worry you that Benin history from 1400s to late 1800s, a period of over 400 hundred years doesn't mention Ife. The Catholic Church actually had a mission and resident missionaries on Benin city that documented various aspects of Benin history.

Even the popular tao11 has seen the light on the false history

samuk:


I can see you are really having a tough time with the Thebadpolitician

The truth is you are the very few on this forum that still believe that the Oba migrated from somewhere. Most of us on this forum have gone beyond this, we are now trying to sort out the confusion that came into Benin history after 1897. There is nothing presented so far to support the oba coming from Ife. Ife doesn't necessarily mean Uhe.

I recently saw the video where Imaseun Izoduwa disgraced with the Esogban on the Ife story, mind you Izoduwa is also very close to foremost Benin historians and palace chiefs.

Anyone that will be taken seriously on Benin history will have to produce documents on Benin history dating from 1896 and backward to the 1400s to back up what they are saying.

It should worry you that Benin history from 1400s to late 1800s, a period of over 400 hundred years doesn't mention Ife. The Catholic Church actually had a mission and resident missionaries on Benin city that documented various aspects of Benin history.

Make e dey play, I believe he is an usen man

OKAIDUN:
You cannot be a Uniben student and a graduate at the same time, you already expose your folly, you are gregyboy the Auchi student or graduate,you write like him, and worse still you directed me to your deadpost. Of all Binis here, gregyboy.


Delauhe means everything idiot, timestamp 09:57 -10-30, the Esogban made it clear where he came from


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZQZl-yyNqE


Some communities are homogeneous, and tend to greet alike. Usen is a family on its own, it is a small community, home and abroad should be about 60- 70 thousand, lesser than some families in Benin. The fact that they migrated together did not tell your 0 byte brain that they are a family

The people of Ehor aside their king also greet Alike. They greet Delaeho to show their homogeinity as a family. The people of Ehor also greet to show their village
time stamp 9:45 to 9:55


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOBY3QxokR0

I graduated before you were born, we are not mate, I meant it literally and otherwise.

Yea I am gregyboy and I will begin to reply you with my official account


Without diving deep

I would assume what you're saying or giving as an evidence to oduduwa existence is true and truly oduduwa came into benin through usen let's assume that we are agreeing to that


The above screenhot shows the usen greeting as Delaihe and not what you presume as deluhe, another example of falsely twisting history to suite tribal glorious narrative


The usen are agreeing that they were the ones
That brought about the second dynasty
Which they are simplying doing to spite the oba of benin for encroaching their lands and selling it off to buyers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUfCwAlFH-8
Here is an usen man abusing the oba of benin


Everybody who wants to spite the oba of benin
Would always quote such unfound history to tackle his illegitimacy on the throne

I still don't believe the connection you're trying to draw with the usen origin, if truly the second dynasty came through the usen people there would have been a notable focal point or even be made the capital of benin city

Throughout the bini history both in ancient written document, usen as a place in benin holds no historical fit or acknowledgement but places like udo, uselu, ughoton holds great fit in benin history

This gives another difficulty to believe the second dynasty emerged from the usen people that is if it even existed

Please in need of list of phones that has app twin as inbuilt specifications

samuk:


I don't think I still have the link, it's been years, but a search on the Internet should yield something.

OK sure

Logicisfree2:
I have a precolonial book in which an european visitor to our shores was on his way to Jebu. The European refers to some Benin nobles with the title Obi, which he describes as basically a Duke title.
I let dogmatic and clueless ignoramuses to continue their show of intellectual lazyness.

I love to read it please share reference or links

There is a bini book you share one time written in French i still need to read that book I lost it... The book was talking about some European who were traveling with bini soldiers and to the north please share if you still have it at your disposal

Igboid:


Nope.
You were never one with Western Igbos.
The union between you and Western Igbos into [s]Bini empire was made possible by Portuguese firearms[/s] you acquired, while British firearms brought to an end of that ungodly union.
That's your bitterness.
Move on.
You can't be one with a people you can't converse with except with the use of English language that the same British you begrudge brought to you.
You should be looking towards Urhobo, Isoko, Epie-Etissa, Degema, etc.
They are your real brothers, the Edoid language you all speak proves that.
Move on.

Bini empire was made possible by Portuguese fire arm what!!


Please don't make or assume such thing again

They are scholars here in bini history

That is an historical fallacy from you, bini had an empire before the Portuguese came

The bini relationship with the Portuguese lasted for only 200yrs

Bini already had an empire before the arrival of the Portuguese or any European

The Portuguese deliberately didn't sell guns to the binis because they refuse to accept Christianity

Don't tell history out of your imagination if you have to do that atleast pick a book first before you disgrace yourself

samuk:


It's been a while, I am glad you learnt something. These interventions is often necessary every now and then for the sake of our future generations. There are people whose goals are to rewrite Benin history. Unfortunately for them, there are enough materials on the archives from late 1400s to late 1800s ( about 400 years) to prevent their revisionists agenda, all we have to do is to research them and use them as evidences to counter their lies.

I was happy to see the screenshot when am financially bouyant enough i would sponser the publication of this old document to the public....

I don't know why the Palace refuse to do so

This is my dream retracing our history deviod fallacy and myth then we can find the missing link to untie the great edo people again

I had it posted on my status were both the igbos, and the edo and other tribe I have in my contact could see the truth

And igbo girl objected with a 1945 document I just laugh

Please share me the link to the book

AreaFada2:


Samuk, the way history has been rewritten by those tribes that the British favoured after 1897 and benefitted initially from 1914 amalgamation and post-independence, is beginning to miseducate some Edo people. Say around 1986, if I greeted elderly people "Lamogun or La'Umogun", they will recite the "oriki", uwaenmwen or praise of Umogun descendants. I would have to politely wait for them to finish before proceeding on my merry way. My experience as a young chap. Edohen, Ero, Elawure, Ezomo and other descendants also have their oriki. A chap who greets Lamogun today might even get a reply in Pidgin English from the elder.

Kids today may not even know that there is something like oriki.
Edo people brought up in Lagos are helping to spread the myth that Edo people come from Yoruba. That is how their "accommodating" hosts educated them.

For anyone to use languages or dialects spoken today in various districts of former Benin Empire to decide or conjure up what the origins or demographics of those areas were around 1440-1473 when Oba Ewuare I reigned, is an abysmal disservice to scholarship and common sense.

But at least the guy has enough fantasy and attempted to think, albeit being misguided.

This is so very true the bolded mostly the edo north people, an esan man or bini person will deny such claim as being yoruba i love the esan people for this

Funny thing is the edo north are more in lagos compare to any tribe in edo state due to their Muslim religion and as a result they become yorubanised, Unlike the edo south and edo central who are Christians and tend to remain more in their location
I schooled in auchi poly back then I saw this first hand, an edo north man claiming we edos came from yoruba people I had so many provoked confrontation even with the elderly ones for such claims but an esan man will never make such statement

The edo North are over mixed with both edo yoruba and Northerners they don't even know their identity to them they are politically edo

samuk:

Nice one I learnt something its been a while i read something like this pertaining to edo history

SeamT:

Well according to our history ogiso dynasty existed. Unless you have a concrete evidence to disprove it.

According to our

How many times have you picked an edo ancient document written by Europeans before the collapse of the benin empire to read and research on, and how i have read quiet a good number of those document many more to be read

Did you know that there were so many Europeans who left Europe to West Africa just to see benin and document the benin history

They are hundreds of such document that are yet to be transcribe to English up till date they are still in the native language of the Europeans who took the documen

They say if you want to hide truth from the African man put it in a book


I can't school you more than this visit my profile I made so many thread on it

Of you don't believe my thread then find the truth yourself by looking for old document to research on....


American said they visited the moon not until people descrited it by researching and saw that it was a lie


The oba said there was an ogiso not untill you research and you find the truth yourself the oba is human like us too he can twist history for any purpose and his subject will follow suit

Men tell lies or hide truth for self interest so no matter what only trust yourself with the truth by always digging up things

AutomaticMotors:


What are you even saying ?

How well have you read benin history not just oral history told by old people

Visit my profile and read my works

AutomaticMotors:


What are you even saying ?

Kill that history of ogiso and oduduwa from your brain that story was formed to unitie edo people with yorubas during indirect rule system

AutomaticMotors:


Urhobo is an Edo clan! Same with all tribes in Delta state including the ones in Delta North igbos are trying to claim

Urhobo people in the begin were independent clan from edo until edo brought her under their control and influence

Urhobo people has high percentage of Edo bloods in them because the edos did a mass migration into their tribe


In modern times the words to use to describe
Urhobo people are offshoot of Edo


Forget who urhobo was before benin occupation nobody see that anymore


Urhobo people has edo old words as vocabulary that old benin in benin use interchangeably


Kill that history of ogiso and oduduwa from your brain that story was formed to untie edo people as yorubas during indirect rule system


It's been recircle today for the purpose of tribal bashing

SeamT:


On the contrary, after the fall of the Benin people to the Yoruba’s. superior Edoid speaking tribe migrated the then known Aka, because they refused to be enslaved.
Urhobo was never an offshoot of Edo. They existed as on entity before the end of the ogiso dynasty.

There was never an ogiso dynasty it has always been obaship


There was never oduduwa he existed as an idol Samuel Johnson an oyo man brought oduduwa into existence with his pen in 1897 in a bid to unite the yoruba people under one umbrella

Tao11 can attest to this


So stop speaking in myth my friend