Christianity Etc › Re: The End Of Atheism Is Nigh! by hahn(m): 10:51pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
jesusjnr: If so, you would get to see the works, as every body else on the same day that atheism would be cured.
And it is nigh! But the cure for your delusion isn't
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Christianity Etc › Re: The End Of Atheism Is Nigh! by hahn(m): 6:54pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
jesusjnr: Avoiding you ke? Nah!
However tell me Hahn, what has been the benefit of not avoiding you, for in spite of all the time I've spent on your case what has come out of it?
But I wasn't avoiding you at all in fact I had long planned to respond to your post, but wasn't ready yet.
But if you still think I was avoiding you, then you may have to ask, Lreed, Hpagan, Fbel, etc to understand what me avoiding someone actually means.
But there's just something about you, I don't know if it's the fact that you seem to bring out the best of God in me, or maybe the fact that you just know when to back down, and not keep chasing a lost cause as some others do, or maybe something else that makes me to still feel like not putting an end to our conversations, in spite of the fact that we've had many interactions, probably more than most.
That's why I was really disappointed that you of all people would accuse me of fabricating Michelle's conversion, I mean what would I have stood to benefit if it was a fake conversion story, especially after putting through all the insults and disapproval from most of the church here, and then all I would get to show for it would be a fake conversion story?
You can at least look up to see how I first reacted to buda's 1½ talk, for i'd rather have 1 than 1½, for that's how serious it is for me, it has to be sure, otherwise I won't be here taking this nonsense.
Now to the miracles part, that is the easy part according to God, for He said that my part was the hard part, but that I've done it, so what left is the easy part, even His own part. For the problem has never been God but man, for man is hardly ever willing to do his own part, even the hard part.
That's why you see me stopping at nothing to make sure I do the hard part, in spite of all the insults and disapproval of most church folks here, because the reason God easy part of miracles and works dried up was because man has hardly been doing his own part.
So the easy part of works and wonders and miracles are definitely going to happen in a way that believe me has not happened in recent times, that's why I said that the end of atheism is nigh, because that is easily the cure for atheism.
Now so it's not going to be a big deal if you believe in Jesus after that happens, for many also would, but what's going to be a big deal, is to believe even before you see the works, for that's is what is hard to do.
As you can see Michelle didn't have to wait to see the works to believe, buda didn't have wait, even I didn't have to wait to see the works first for me to believe, but it was only long after I believed that I began to feel the presence of God in my bones to an extent that it's impossible to doubt that God was not with me and that He doesn't exist.
Jesus said:
Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. John 20:29 (KJV)
So the works are definitely going to take place and you would be able to behold them with your own eyes, but are you going to wait to see the works first before you believe? Yes. The works before belief Can we set up a date? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 6:05pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 5:04pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 5:02pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
johnydon22: This is the type of thing you like. To be regurgitating plain rubbish with MrPresident1 So person cannot play with him padi again abi?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 3:00pm On Feb 23, 2019*. Modified: 6:09pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
johnydon22: The question was simple; is belief in a creator logical?
Yes? No?
Why?
Where is the emotions? Ignorance? Of what?
So far, your outburst here has been the only emotional one, no agency for logical discussion but yet, ignorance and emotion.
Lmao
It is one thing to say something is nonsense, it is another to say "why' it is.
You have not shown 'why' therefore your claim is unfounded at best.
Emotions? Savvy?
Anyway, calm down, breathe, now take the question from the top.
Is belief in a creator a logical conclusion?
(N.B; this doesn't mean God exists or not) for an individual that should reach conclusions through logic, you seem to be lacking a lot in that part lately especially when the discussion is tilted against your position.
I'm an atheist, but for one to be truly willing to learn you must do away with unnecessary bias towards opposing ideas.
You seem incredibly uncomfortable discussing topics that places your position in an uncomfortable state of scrutiny, i honestly expected better. Lol Belief in a creator is a logical assumption and not a conclusion. It is not a conclusion because no facts have been presented towards this fact therefore it is not logical to believe in something without any proof. Emotions eg: My god is the best. My religion is ordained by god. My parents believe in it so do I etc Ignorance eg: of how the world actually works. It is nonsense to believe in anything without proof. Believing in anything without proof is the reason why many scams are successful. Eg: I have a house for sale. Where is the house? Just believe it exists and make payment. It would be nonsense to simply make payment but there are many people who have fallen for the apartment scam simply based on this. This has nothing to do with "learning". We already know that all the gods have their roots in the ignorance of early men who wanted to explain the world with just "god did it". You seem to forget when you agree that "god did it" you also have to agree that this god wants you to serve it. It wants to burn you in hell. It does not claim responsibility for it's errors and it is always conveniently missing. I easily dismiss these topics because I might as well be discussing with a kid if the toothfairy is a logical conclusion. It saves everyone's time when you tell the kid, "it's nonsense" especially when you have had this discussion over a 100 times with him/her. Get it? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 1:59pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Yes o, including all the fools who say in their hearts that there is no God  Including the fools that wrote the bible and the fools that quote the bible and believe in it  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 12:57pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Yes o, including all the greedy hyenaic supporters of perversion and allthings degrading and debasing who masquerade themselves as Negro atheists  Including all pastors that rape church members and all church members who steal, lie, fornicate and then pray for it's forgiveness  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 12:37pm On Feb 23, 2019*. Modified: 1:01pm On Feb 23, 2019 |
johnydon22: I'm ironically lacking atheists with meaningful contributions to this thread.
One would expect atheists to be logical and what not as we have always posited on this board.
Seems the atheists on this board shy away from discussions that puts them in an uncomfortable position.
Who knows which atheist is which to tag to this thread?
DoctorAlien do you? You are expecting atheists to contribute logical arguments to a topic that has it's foundation in ignorance and emotion?  Your constant need to make sense of absolute nonsense is a route you have to take yourself |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 10:45am On Feb 23, 2019 |
MrPresident1: Yes o, he created everything including all the well fed walking talking zombie atheists  And all the impoverished and sick theists that believe in it and keeping repeating the same prayers but are still poor, hungry and die from simple diseases it cannot cure daily  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 10:40am On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 10:39am On Feb 23, 2019 |
smartmom: You are a nice fella no doubt. I actually didnt mean to come out as snide. Just concerned. I am guessing I should keep my unsolicited advice. I have an overweight younger brother who is struggling with his diet too and I am his consultant 
Sorry o for coming out as beefing. Let madam eat the dodo  I understand
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Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 10:39am On Feb 23, 2019 |
chasers:
Samsung.. Just small pepper because of the heat, not hot I need to get me Samsung phone. Your pictures are very nice |
Politics › Re: Atiku And Wife, Titi Cast Their Votes by hahn(m): 10:27am On Feb 23, 2019 |
nwakibe: So he is not going to use Jennifer as first lady. No wahala He'll have first ladies  |
Celebrities › Re: The Cake Banky W Bought For Adesua Etomi On Her 33rd Birthday by hahn(m): 10:24am On Feb 23, 2019 |
TechCapon: Rubbish news on front page. Big things are going on in the world. R. Kelly has been arrested and it's not on front page. Jussie smoleth has been kicked out of empire series for faking his own attack. This is the kind of hitting front page. And how are those things more important than Banky celebrating his wife. Wetin concern us with r Kelly and jussie matter? |
Agriculture › Re: Crocodile Farming From The Start by hahn(m): 9:56am On Feb 23, 2019 |
I am interested too.
Snake farming as well |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:53am On Feb 23, 2019 |
jagugu88li: If I hear In case you don't know I box. For real |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 9:52am On Feb 23, 2019 |
johnydon22: Ok. Go troll someone else Now how is that trolling? The concept of a creator is illogical because the people who came up with such assumption have failed to provide any proof of any sort to support their claims. Unless we are talking about a creator that loves playing hide and seek  |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:50am On Feb 23, 2019 |
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Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:49am On Feb 23, 2019 |
funkymoi: Honestly you are an easy going person. If it were to be some other people, they would have taken offence from all these subtle criticisms! Please guys I dont think he asked for weight loss advise fa! For every meal he posts now it must be met with snide remarks. Please let it stop! You've all said your bits,let him decide how to run his diet abeg. Hahaha I guess I am used to the yabbings. Don't mind them. Just wait till I launch my six packs pics. Them go fear  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is A Creator A Logical Conclusion? by hahn(m): 9:47am On Feb 23, 2019 |
johnydon22: So, a theist follows same pattern of observation;
Facts: Precision of gravitational force (too weak or too strong would mean the universe as we know won't exist)
Precision of the weak nuclear force, which anything less or more means life won't exist.
What are the odds of those happening?
Conclusion; something designed this.
How is this not a conclusion since it follows the same pattern of reaching an answer through a set up observables facts? This is wrong. Theist: Someone created the universe Atheist: Show me this person Theist: He is invincible. You can't see him. He is in your mind and he sent his son 2000 years ago to die for your sins Theist 1: No. God did not have a son. That is blasphemy. Theist 2: No. God was dating a lesser god Theist 3: No. God is a holy dwarf Etc with over 2,000 different descriptions Atheist: Obviously you guys are assuming and pulling gods out of your anuses. *eats popcorn* |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:30am On Feb 23, 2019 |
HappyPagan: Walk to your polling unit and vote.
You need the exercise.  I should exercise but I am no more comfortable on my building. Landlord has been bitching. I will be moving next month |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:28am On Feb 23, 2019 |
HappyPagan: Walk to your polling unit and vote.
You need the exercise.   |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:28am On Feb 23, 2019 |
HappyPagan: I agree.... He needs herbalist tea, because its like he enjoys watching his weight rise....
PS: Hahn, come my shrine for PH, I get am plenty. NAFDAC approved...
Actually my herbal tea works perfectly. Smartmom was only assuming what I posted was breakfast, lunch and dinner. |
Crime › Re: I Got N25,000 After Killing Badeh – Suspect by hahn(m): 9:13am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Pavore9: People kill for N10,000! They need proper managers to handle their pricing. |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 9:11am On Feb 23, 2019 |
smartmom: Guessing these are breakfast lunch and dinner for 2? That your herbal tea isn't working very well if you can garner enough appetite for there 3 square meals o. The inclusion of dodo especially very ripe one in a calorie packed carbs meal is a no no for any weight loss diet. The meals are for two but it's breakfast and dinner and the noodles is breakfast this morning. That plantain is the last of the bunch. We no fit allow am waste na. For this Buhari era? Shuu. |
Food › Re: Cook In Your Kitchen, Take Pictures And Post It Here. SIMPLE! by hahn(m): 8:34am On Feb 23, 2019 |
Noodles, plantain and boiled egg
Rice with stew, vegetable soup, periwinkles and goat meat
Eba with vegetable soup and stew with goat meat
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Christianity Etc › Re: The End Of Atheism Is Nigh! by hahn(m): 8:08am On Feb 23, 2019 |
frank317: Twill not work like that na... U must accept Jesus by blind faith. Just believe with no prove. Believe in ur mind that Jesus died for ur sins and created hell in case u don't accept him and this is perfect love. Jesusjnr has been avoiding me o
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Career › Re: A Personal Website (is It Really Worth It) by hahn(m): 8:02am On Feb 23, 2019 |
leedigital: Thank you. 
No, that's a cover picture. A professional portrait of me is just below the header. You can check it out at https://adedolapo.leedigital.net/ But it beats the purpose of the site. Having a personal site with someone else's picture is like having a contact page with someone else's email address. Ogbeni change that thing. I plan to get my own personal website soon. Still building my profile though |
Christianity Etc › Re: The End Of Atheism Is Nigh! by hahn(m): 11:09pm On Feb 22, 2019 |
jesusjnr: Yeah I just found out, but it was buda that deceived me then to think so, so you guys still have one full atheist of the two with you and not even one and half.
I'm really sorry for this deception, but nothing spoil.
The end of atheism is yet high! Accept my challenge and I will accept Jesus after the miracle. Deal? |
Business › Re: 1 USD Now Equal 184 Naira On Google- Is It An Hack? by hahn(m): 7:38pm On Feb 22, 2019 |
Rough play by google
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Business › Re: Popular Instagram Comedian Cautions Nigerians Against Fraudulent Bitcoin Trader by hahn(m): 7:23pm On Feb 22, 2019 |
What annoys me is that legitimate business people will run ads and not get clients but these customers keep getting customers.
Wetin dey happen?
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