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rheether:
As if the question was thrown at you in particular

I was mentioned. Is it a bad thing to say I do not know something about something I do not know?

I will advice he contacts a professional lawyer

I really have no experience in such a matter

Land for sale


I actually created a thread similar to this

https://www.nairaland.com/3616205/more-evil-god-devil

Edelweiss44:
Issokay Dr LuckyMay..........As our elders usually said in those days, "he whom the gods want to destroy, they first make deaf".

Our elders were not really wise. If they were Nigeria will not be where it is today

Ubenedictus:
As for the wisdom of solomon, that book is also found in the catholic bible and the passage quote has a lot of parallels to the passion of Christ.

The catholic church is the foundation of Christianity. Am I right?

Ubenedictus:
1st i apologise for my outburst and lack of patience, and yes maybe i'll pray for more charity in discussions, i am not angry but i hate repeating myself i had already responded to ur post and asking me to respond to it again seemed like u were not reading what i wrote but instead trying to fraustrate me.

Na wa for you. I do not even know you na

Oya, what do you think about the Solomon verse?

Ubenedictus:
Do you have an eye problem? or is it comprehension? is the op not address in the post u quoted?

Your op say the catholic church removed some books of the bible and listed them, i responded by telling you that tobit, sirac, macabee...etc are all in the catholic bible, the catholic church didnt remove them, it was the protestants.

Do u understand that i have addressed d points in the op?

Christianity sprung from the catholic church. Whatever comes after that is an adulteration

Besides, you didn't address the King Solomon issue. I don't know why you sound so angry. Maybe you need to kneel down and pray for patience to have a decent conversation

Another proof that religion doesn't teach manners

Op, Jesus is coming soon. Are you going to spit or swallow?

Beetwaise:
It's pertinent you sieve the words you render. Remember, this is a public forum.

Mary was a baby mama. Yes or no?

curvilicious:
This is the worst comparison I've ever read

Jehovah is Jesus baby daddy

And Mary was underage when she got pregnant. About 12-14 years of age at the time




Stay calm, Jesus never existed

However, a member of the church’s marriage committee, who identified himself as Mr. Ibekwe, said Oji’s action was an embarrassment to all the members of Deeper Life. Ibekwe said the mother of the deceased was a pastor in the church.

Someone tell me this bullshit is not real

Ubenedictus:
Hahn, there are two types of bibles in the west, the catholic bible and the protestant bible. The catholic bible has the books above and they have been so since the 4th century as presented in the council of cathage and hippo, it was confirmed again and officially closed in the council of trent in the 16th century.
Where when protestanism began the reformers decided to mutilate the bible since is didnt support them so they removed some books about the 16th and 17th century.

It was the protestants that removed them so when next u met ur pastor ask him why?

Cool

Do you mind commenting on the points in the op?

Statsocial:
The purpose of religion is not to teach science so why compare. Your initial post suggested that a man with faith could never advocate for science and I replied you that many have. Infact science and religion run on the same "believe to see" system. So get off ur Atheistic high horse and go find a life...

@ emboldened

I already knew this would be a waste of time. As usual

LajaLaba:
Your post is rubbish

So is yours

Statsocial:
Most of the world's greatest scientist are religious people. The joke is on you!

No great scientific discovery has been made and no major ie worldscale problem has been solves as a result of religious teachings

The joke is on you

The Vatican church, or the Roman Catholic church, has a long history of corruption and deception.

Why Did The Vatican Remove 14 Books From The Bible in 1684?
John Peterson | March 8, 2017 | World
The Vatican church, or the Roman Catholic church, has a long history of corruption and deception.



In the year 1611 the Bible was translated from Latin into English. Back then the Bible contained a total of 80 books and the last 14 books, which today have been excluded, made up the end of the Old Testament and were as follows:

1 Esdras
2 Esdras
Tobit
Judith
The rest of Esther
The Wisdom of Solomon
Ecclesiasticus
Baruch with the epistle Jeremiah
The Songs of the 3 Holy children
The history of Susana
bel and the dragon
The prayer for Manasses
1 Maccabees
2 Maccabees

In 1684 all of these books were removed from all versions except for a 1611 edition, which was the very first edition translated into English.

In this first edition you will also actually find that Jesus’ name is spelled IESUS and pronounced Yahashua. So why then does everyone continue to call him Jesus, when the letter J did not even being used at the time?

One of these books that is particularly interesting, is the “Wisdom of Solomon”. For those who don’t know Solomon is one of the most legendary characters from the Bible. He was the son of David and is alleged to be the wisest man that has ever lived. He is painted largely as a benevolent figure. But what you read in this book will make you question everything you were told to believe about him.

Observe the following excerpt;

[b]Wisdom of Solomon 2:1-24

1 For the ungodly said reasoning with them selves, but not aright, our life is short and tedious and in death of a man there is no remedy: neither was there any man known to have returned from the grave.

2 For we are born at all adventure: and we shall be hereafter as though we had never been: for the breath of our nostrils is as smoke, and the little spark in the moving of our heart

3 Which being extinguished, our body shall be turned into ashes, and our spirit shall vanish as the soft air,

4 And our name shall be forgotten in time, and no man shall have our works in remembrance, and our life shall pass away as the trace of a cloud, and shall be dispersed as a mist, that is driven away, with the beams of the sun, and overcome with the heat thereof.

5 For our time is very shadow that passeth away; and after our end there is no returning: for it is fast sealed, so that no man cometh again.

6 Come on there for let us enjoy the good things that are present: and let us speedily use the creatures like as in youth.

7 Let us fill ourselves with costly wine and ointments: and let no flower of the Spring pass by us.

8 Let us crown ourselves with rosebuds, before they be withered:

9 Let none of us go without his part of our voluptuousness: let us leave tokens of our joyfulness in every place: for this is our portion and our lot is this.

10 Let us oppress the poor righteous man, let us not spare the widow, nor reverence the ancient gray hairs of the aged.

11 Let our strength be the law of justice: for that which is feeble is found to be nothing worth.

12 Therefore let us lie in wait for the righteous; because HE is not of our turn, and HE is clean contrary to our doings. He upbraideth us with our offending of the law, and ojecteth to our infamy the transgression of our education.

13 HE professeth to have the knowledge of the MOST HIGH, and calleth HIS self the child of the LORD.

14 HE was made to reprove our thoughts

15 HE is grievous unto us even to behold, for HIS life is not like other men’s, HIS ways are of another fashion.

16 We are esteemed of HIM as counterfeits: HE abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: HE pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh HIS boast that GOD is HIS father.

17 Let us see if HIS words be true: and let us prove what shall happen in the end of HIM.

18 For if the just man be the Son of THE MOST HIGH, HE will help HIM and deliver HIM from the hands of HIS enemies.

19 Let us examine HIM with despitefulness and torture, that we may know HIS meekness and prove HIS patience.

20
Let us condemn HIM with a shameful death: for by HIS own mouth HE shall be respected…. [/b]

This raises a number of important questions

Who is Solomon speaking of killing with a “shameful death”?
Why did the Vatican vote to have these 14 books removed from the Bible?
Why did Solomon sound so crazy and evil in this book?
It seems that Solomon was speaking of Jesus. But Jesus was born roughly 900 years after his death. Could he have prophesied Jesus’ coming? Let’s consider why this could be who Solomon was talking about;

They killed the SON with a shameful death
The SON’s actions or fashions were different from everyone else’s
HE claims to be and IS the child of The MOST HIGH
He was a righteous poor man who would look at Solomon and others like him as “counterfeits”.
HE professeth to have knowledge of The MOST HIGH
Then listen to what Solomon has to say:

HE was made to reprove (criticize) our thoughts
We are esteemed of HIM as counterfeits: HE abstaineth from our ways as from filthiness: HE pronounceth the end of the just to be blessed, and maketh HIS boast that GOD is HIS father
For if the just man be the Son of THE MOST HIGH, HE will help HIM and deliver HIM from the hands of HIS enemies.
And one last thing I would like to point out is when Solomon says;

Let us oppress the poor righteous man, let us not spare the widow, nor reverence the ancient gray hairs of the aged.
This really disrupts everything we thought we knew. Solomon really and truly sounds evil. He is also alleged to be the wisest man in history.

Whatever is really going on here, we should certainly research it further.

source: http://ariseuniverse.com

PS: I got this article from http://reflectionofmind.org/vatican-remove-14-books-bible-1684-2/

bot101:
I don't know what to tell you. SMH

Then don't speak

Don't be afraid to experiment - Dr David Oyedepo

Imagine this is coming from the same person that promotes dogma and ancient Jewish myths as fact

And someone is comparing this place to silicon valley

And it is not yet April fool's day

femolacqua:
Thank God he is alive

Thank god he got hit

ThinkSmarter:
The whites are amazing, they must hv been descendants of the fallen angels.
They ingenuity is extra ordinary.
Good job Explorer.

This is exactly why they keep progressing because they do not hold on to fairytales or myths and are aware of the fact that the human mind os capable of great things and therefore continue to explore and test their limit while their African counterparts continue to attribute achievements based on research, logic, learning from one's failure, consistently trying to improve and develop the world on imaginary beings and products of ancient mythology

Junia:
Yh. E pain ne say you go go hell.

How? I am the real estate agent there

And just so you know, your name is not in the book of life. I saw it in Devil's journal yesterday

ifenes:
My point is, Jesus being real or fake is not the issue. The messenger/ teacher shouldn't be the focus, but the message. The message is all about being fully human, being fully enhanced for us to activate our full human abilities. The story of Jesus, Esu, Sango, Buddah are to help human see that it is possible to be complete humans. I compare it to an atheist who experiment and try Inge out rather wait for gods.

I dig. But you forget that hypocrisy is a necessary ingredient in religion

No one cares about the message or the messenger as long as the doctrine can be twisted to suit them

Junia:
.
Thats where you'll end up if you don't repent.
Kill yourself and see. Abi life is meaningless to you.

Lol

E pain am

Junia:
Ok uttering harsh words. I wanna hear more

They are harsh? As harsh as telling people they will go to hell for not believing in your imaginary friend?

Tell me more

Junia:
Ok thank you.
By the way, im a guy

Oh dear. That is even worse

You are like a sour soup of winner01, kingebukasblog, felixomor, 4evergod left to rot

Disappointed

I came in less than 2 secs and didn't know how to do "in and out"

Op, create a thread on how did you feel on the second try and you will hear better stories

absoluteSuccess:
She's the one who visited king Solomon to test his wisdom.

History is still laying fallow at Oke Eri, to be told in future time.

King Solomon never existed

Do not confuse myth with history

adepeter26:
This one is confused OOO........ Make una see her 1st line

Cc Wilgrea7, jonbellion, Hahn, CatfishBilly

Junia never disappoints

She is like ishilove, an2select, pidgin rolled up in one very unhealthy blunt

I came across this experience written in 1896 London by a medium, Franesse, who was in contact with the soul of a man known as Franchezzo when he was alive who related through this medium his experience after his death on earth. For those who probably do not know, a medium is someone with psychic powers or heightened senses able to see or hear souls/spirits. Through these people or mediums, loved ones or people who have died are able to communicate to their loved ones still living or pass on certain messages to certain people through them.

Lol

Apparently the writer is mad

Ishilove, bigfrancis21 and anyone else who takes this serious are all mad

This is the problem we are actually having. When grown adults subscribe to such childish fantasies, promote wishful thinking and are unable to discern and identify fairytales from reality, lies from the truth and are not ashamed to spread such rubbish

In fact they have proudly mentioned me to come here

Smd

cc: hardmirror. Your babe has done it again oooo. Come and read

plaetton, frank317, kevoh, hopefullandlord, johnnydon22, jonbellion, akintom, catfishbilly you guys need to see something

Ishilove:
There's nothing to clear. Hahn is just being mischievous

crazygod:
Aunty go and clear ur name.

Lol. Funny dude