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Religion / Re: Catholicism & Idol Worshiping by harbiola1(m): 11:01am On Dec 13, 2013
FrancisTony:
Isaiah 7:10 moreover the lord spoke again to ahaz saying,
11. Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God, ask it either in the depth or in the height above.
12. But ahaz sai, i will not ask nor will i test the Lord
13. Then he said, hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also.
14. Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign, behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name, Immanuel.
15. Curds and honey he shall eat that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the good.
mathew 1: 22 so all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet saying
23. Behold, the virgin shall be with child and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which is translated, God is with us.

Mathew is talking abt Jesus.
Isaiah is also talking about Jesus, but i'm confuse abt the bolded part. Thanks #shalom

SEEN!

@ Jman, i think it's high time you defended bible's credibility.


I'm coming...
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 9:43am On Dec 13, 2013
Emusan:

See the message of God to tell you that Muhammad doesn't receive his message from the God who spoke to Noah, Moses, Isaiah e.t.c
Bro, Are you talking about the same God that cast delusion into the mind of John and said He is not ELIJAH contrary to Jesus that said John is ELIJAH?

[quote author=Emusan]
Numbers 12:6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

And God did not fulfil His promise in the case of Jesus so much so that the Jews would know who Jesus is.

Only Prophet Muhammed(saw) came to clearify who Jesus is even within those that claim to be Jesus' followers.

And when they want to talk, they would say Muhammed(saw) brought Jesus(as) to the level of a mere Prophet.
And now, they have no hide out than the statements of Prophet Muhammed(saw) that boldly stated that Jesus(as) is a Prophet whom the only One Almighty God sent.

Is Prophet Muhammed(saw) a Prophet?
Bible and Christians confirmed that He is.


*CASE CLOSED* lipsrsealed
Religion / Re: How Did Jesus Fulfill The Law Of Moses? by harbiola1(m): 9:00am On Dec 13, 2013
Nahum777: thread abandoned? grin grin well dayummm

Bro u 2 wicked o, c as u just scared the grace aot of d thread. cheesy cheesy
Religion / Re: Catholicism & Idol Worshiping by harbiola1(m): 7:10am On Dec 13, 2013
@ FRANCIS, let us do this nah.

undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided undecided
Religion / Re: Catholicism & Idol Worshiping by harbiola1(m): 9:03pm On Dec 12, 2013
FrancisTony: and what made you to think that elevated person can't be equal? Errmmm, oya show me nah
OK!

Pls Do me a favor.

help me to post this verses from your best bible version;

ISAIAH 7:10-15
MATTHEW 1:22-23

^^1. Who was Isaiah talking about?

2. Who was Matthew talking about?
Religion / Re: Catholicism & Idol Worshiping by harbiola1(m): 4:57pm On Dec 12, 2013
FrancisTony: hey. How do i know?.
Ain't you suppose to know about your Salvation?

Emusan:
Just read where i quoted harbiola, was i the one that added in the bible where God said "Let all angel worship Jesus". Not me bro

It brutally debunked the concept of Monotheism.

Should i show you a LIAR from the bible?
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 4:18pm On Dec 12, 2013
Emusan:

No time Muslims and Christians debate on issue like this without end up with this statement.
Is that the only thing u could see there eh?

Can't you see that Mintayo is accusing those people of delusion.

Emusan:
Ask yourself why is it like that?


Emusan:
The book you believed it full of many discrepances but you can still sneak into it to know your prophet is inside. undecided undecided

70/100%. undecided
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 4:07pm On Dec 12, 2013
Mintayo:
this have been addressed abov by me and pro212.
OK!

Mintayo:
Moses and mohammed are nt anyway related,God spoke to Moses directly,
When Gabriel spoke to Mary, who did speak to her, Gabriel or God?

Mintayo:
no? Moses performed miracle,no?
Lol, Muhammed(saw) performed Many miracles. the most outstanding miracle that has ever existed is the Quran which contains 500+ miracles which the most outstanding is it ZERO ERROR CONTENT which has never existed in any Religious so called Holy Book.

"LIKE UNTO THEE" Jesus was unlike Moses because Moses was given LAW while Jesus wasn't given any LAW but Himself lived under LAW and complied with it.

Muhammed(saw) was like Moses because He was given LAW.

Mintayo:
Deuteronomy 18:18...I will raise up a prophet from among their brethen...
JESUS WAS JEW HIMSELF THROUGH ISAAC.

MUHAMMED(saw) WAS ARAB THROUGH ISHMAEL.

ISHMAEL WAS CLEARLY CALLED BRETHREN OF ISAACS.

WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THEIR DESCENDANTS?

GET THAT STRAIGHT INTO YOUR HEAD.

GOD CALLED THEM BRETHREN OF ONE ANOTHER.

JESUS IS A JEW, HENCE CAN NOT BE CALLED JEWS' BRETHREN

Mintayo:
Would you

and i will put my words in his mouth,and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Is the above applicable to mohammed?
Verse 22 alone disqualified mohammed.
I knw u will still not see it.

Not complicating guy!

Mintayo:
Sorry i am done with you,there is nothing that you will say concerning John that i have not heard from ur muslim folks before,i have debated with so many of them concerning the book of John and honestly,i have never seen a dumbest posts in my life like ppl saying that the comforter is ur prophet,it shows how deceptive u guys are and how dishonest you are from seeing the truth....

You'll see the worst of Christendom's Deception and Dishonesty. I'ven't just arrived.

Your Holy spirit has been detached from that prophecy.
It's suppose to be Hearing and Talking the same way like Jesus.
Can you ask him whether Jesus is God or not?

Mintayo:
But its okay,time will tell.
Its only someone who doesnt want to seek the truth will say that mohammed was prophesied in the Bible when he was not,his name was not mentioned not even once like Jesus was in d quran.
Where is Jesus called by his name in the bible?

Mintayo:
I hope your eyes will be opend one day.

Who is being cunning is obvious.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 4:05pm On Dec 12, 2013
Mintayo:
this have been addressed abov by me and pro212.
OK!

Mintayo:
Moses and mohammed are nt anyway related,God spoke to Moses directly,
When Gabriel spoke to Mary, who did speak to her, Gabriel or God?

Mintayo:
no? Moses performed miracle,no?
Lol, Muhammed(saw) performed Many miracles. the most outstanding miracle that has ever existed is the Quran which contains 500+ miracles which the most outstanding is it ZERO ERROR CONTENT which has never existed in any Religious so called Holy Book.

"LIKE UNTO THEE" Jesus was unlike Moses because Moses was given LAW while Jesus wasn't given any LAW but Himself lived under LAW and complied with it.

Muhammed(saw) was like Moses because He was given LAW.

Mintayo:
Deuteronomy 18:18...I will raise up a prophet from among their brethen...
JESUS WAS JEW HIMSELF THROUGH ISAAC.

MUHAMMED(saw) WAS ARAB THROUGH ISHMAEL.

ISHMAEL WAS CLEARLY CALLED BRETHREN OF ISAACS.

WHAT WOULD YOU CALL THEIR DESCENDANTS?

GET THAT STRAIGHT INTO YOUR HEAD.

GOD CALLED THEM BRETHREN OF ONE ANOTHER.

JESUS IS A JEW, HENCE CAN NOT BE CALLED JEWS' BRETHREN

Mintayo:
Would you

and i will put my words in his mouth,and He shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Is the above applicable to mohammed?
Verse 22 alone disqualified mohammed.
I knw u will still not see it.

Not complicating guy!

Mintayo:
Sorry i am done with you,there is nothing that you will say concerning John that i have not heard from ur muslim folks before,i have debated with so many of them concerning the book of John and honestly,i have never seen a dumbest posts in my life like ppl saying that the comforter is ur prophet,it shows how deceptive u guys are and how dishonest you are from seeing the truth....

You'll see the worst of Christendom's Deception and Dishonesty. I'ven't just arrived.

Your Holy spirit has been detached from that prophecy.
It's suppose to be Hearing and Talking the same way like Jesus.
Can you ask him whether Jesus is God or not?

Mintayo:
But its okay,time will tell.
Its only someone who doesnt want to seek the truth will say that mohammed was prophesied in the Bible when he was not,his name was not mentioned not even once like Jesus was in d quran.
Where is Jesus called by his name in the bible?

Mintayo:
I hope your eyes will be opend one day.

Who is being cunning is obvious.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 3:01pm On Dec 12, 2013
Mintayo:
Funny,so if they are expecting diiferent persons and Jesus was not the messish nor the prophet to them,then who was Jesus to them? Smh.
Bro, i should say i Smh but thanks for helping me to say it.

Were those Levites talking to Jesus or John?
Can't u understand that simple non complicated verses?

They were talking to John and John told them that He wasn't Elijah, Messiah or the Prophet.
Jesus wasn't involved directly in that conversation. They were only mentioning Messiah!!!.

Mintayo:
Jesus is the Messiah(even though some of them do nt recognize Him as was prophesied) and He is also a Prophet as prophesied.

Ok!
But why all those unneccessary repetitions of Messiah and A Prophet when the duo is 1 person?

Another discrepance!

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Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 2:29pm On Dec 12, 2013
Mee234:
that verse wasn't about mahamed, you are only reading the meaning you want into that verse. it is about people giving excuses about learning.
Brother, people giving excuses how?

You will do well if you can post the verse and explain how you arrive at people giving excuse.

I can do it but i won't, i may be twisting the verses. grin
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shed No Christian Blood, By Mohammed El-kanemy [sheikh Of Borno] by harbiola1(m): 10:26am On Dec 12, 2013
macof:

Lol omobadan if only u knew ur ancestry

Smh
Anyway I don't understand ur question.

What?
I know the fact that they were WILD.

Trust me, not just that.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shed No Christian Blood, By Mohammed El-kanemy [sheikh Of Borno] by harbiola1(m): 10:16am On Dec 12, 2013
macof:

He is the one ignoring me and not me ignoring him. it's the same question I posse to u, wat God were they killing people for?

What can you do without INCANTATION?

Whose spirit are you calling when INCANTATING?
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 9:35am On Dec 12, 2013
Mintayo:
In one person or seperate persons?

A crawling baby will tell you that those Levites were talking about SEPERATE PERSONS.

If you are Neither
ELIJAH
Nor
THE CHRIST
Not
THE PROPHET.

WHO ART THOU?

May be you should ask another person.

Very simple!
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 9:23am On Dec 12, 2013
Mintayo:

Deuteronomy 18:15 (NLT).
Moses continued," The Lord you God will raise up for you a prophet like me FROM AMONG YOUR FELLOW ISRAELITES. You must listen to Him.
^^Where did you get this your interpolation from?
Was fellow Isrealite written in the verse

[quote author=]

15. The lord thy God will raise up unto thee a prophet(1) from the midst of thee; of thy brethen (2) like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken(3).
[/quote]


1.Jesus is not considered as a Prophet but Muhammed is.

2. Jesus is not the Jewish brethen because himself is a Jew. The Jews are 1 racial entity.

Jews and Arabs are brethen from Sarah and Hagar.
"And Abraham called his Son's name which Hagar borne Ishmael." Gen. 16:15

"And Abraham took Ishmael His Son"
Gen. 17:23.

Till the age of 13 year Ishmael is refered to as the ONLY SON of Abraham.

"And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his BRETHEN" Gen. 16:12

"And he (Ishmael) died in the presence of all his BRETHEN"
Gen. 25:18.

Who are the BRETHEN of Ishmael in these verses?

(3)like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken.

They will he from the Prophet the same way they used to hear from Moses.


This took me to the book of John 16

4.) 12. I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13. Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth; for HE SHALL NOT SPEAK OF HIMSELF BUT WHATSOEVER HE SHALL HEAR SHALL HE SPEAK.

I can post 500+ words from the Quran that fulfilled the Prophecies above.

Now for clarification purpose, u will have to address those 4 prophecies that directly prophesied the coming of A Prophet and the Comforter.

Don't attack me yet on the issue of the Comforter because i've said anything on it. Your is to just say how Jesus and the Holy spirit fit into those Prophecies.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shed No Christian Blood, By Mohammed El-kanemy [sheikh Of Borno] by harbiola1(m): 10:07pm On Dec 11, 2013
What can Macof say about the warfare experience of Sango, Ogun and others.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shed No Christian Blood, By Mohammed El-kanemy [sheikh Of Borno] by harbiola1(m): 9:56pm On Dec 11, 2013
macof:

I went through all ur links.
Ur links prove nothing


e be like say Mr. Macof dey also ** MR (Money Ritual).
Because the kind way wey you dey take support this devilish spiritualists is suspecting.
Religion / Re: Catholicism & Idol Worshiping by harbiola1(m): 9:19pm On Dec 11, 2013
FrancisTony: Nope. That's why it's called TRINITY. We worship God i.e TRINITY.

Which one be TRINITY again?

Do you call on Trinity or Jesus when praying.

Father <1st Person>
Jesus <2nd Person>
Holy Spirit <Hovering around the Two>

And when you are pray, u pray to Jesus <2nd Person>

Ok, should i dig some of ur brother's posts that clear say "There is no other God beside Jesus"

What about the Father?
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 9:03pm On Dec 11, 2013
Mintayo:
Let me ask you,who were the Jews expecting? A Messiah or a Prophet?
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 9:02pm On Dec 11, 2013
Mintayo:
Let me ask you,who were the Jews expecting? A Messiah or a Prophet?

Very simple, BOTH!
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 8:59pm On Dec 11, 2013
Mintayo:
Lool, see delution. Is that Bible passage talking about acceptance? Did the Jews/Israelites accepted mohammed? Was Moses talking about Arabs? How does mohammed like Moses?
Did mohammed did one-quarter of what Moses did?
Because mohammed was accepted hence is like Moses,smh even a teenager can do better than that,no??
Deuteronomy 18:15 (NLT).
Moses continued," The Lord you God will raise up for you a prophet like me FROM AMONG YOUR FELLOW ISRAELITES. You must listen to Him.
Ponder on the above very well.

Chai, what is the meaning of all these now, how can we come up with a sensible point in all these argumentative essay vomited up there?
This is why i said you should give ur reasons one by one.

This >> "The Lord you God will raise up for you a prophet like me FROM AMONG YOUR FELLOW ISRAELITES." is the only reasonable thing i can point at.

You know how i earned my 1point. so you also have to do it in a mature manner. quote a sentence from the verses and tell us how it is applicable to Jesus, as simple as that.

Are we ready?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shed No Christian Blood, By Mohammed El-kanemy [sheikh Of Borno] by harbiola1(m): 6:36pm On Dec 11, 2013
macof:
You all have so destroyed ur consciousness that u bash ur ancestors at every turn and praise ur Arab masters
Will you spare me this ur ancestor sermons?


You are denying the rampant actions because ur people are involved. I wonder how u can post such a ridiculous comment that what we hear on a daily basis is a lie.

I still repeat it that ur people are the only negative catalysts that is retarding the glory of Yorubas with ur useless rituals.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 5:49pm On Dec 11, 2013
WHξξ∟s:


enough with the circumlocution please.
Brother holy spirit may not be able to interpret all these Circum-things o. grin grin
Religion / Re: Chat Between A Muslim And A Christian.. Enjoy by harbiola1(m): 5:42pm On Dec 11, 2013
One topic 3 posts. Trinity has seriously taken over this guy.

He won't post more than 3 posts b4 he will run away now.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 5:23pm On Dec 11, 2013
Mintayo:
For the sake of this thread,let me put this to you.
I am sure you believe that the prophet prophesied about is mohammed,no?
Can you show us how he fits in into that prophecy?
Permit me to ask,since we are talking about prophecy,"Is there no prophecy abt the coming of mohammed from another source apart from the Bible?" maybe from the pre-islamic era? Or perhaps since you guys says Islam has been in existence before mohaamed,are there no prophecy about d coming of ur prophet?
Dnt forget we are talking about prophecy.
Look at you!

Why is it that you can't find any of ur 500+ prophecies about the coming of Jesus except in the OT that you guys rejected.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 5:12pm On Dec 11, 2013
Mintayo:
You are just being delusive.
Pet me? Lol,that is funny.
I already know the truth but you are not ready to grab it.
We all know who moses was talking about in the Deuteronomy,it is very clear in the Bible,you are d one trying to show that it is ur mohammed that he was refering to.
So you are d one left with the prove-it is you against the Bible,show us how mohammed fits into that prophecy.

You don't like to be shown the truth from the bible. I wonder why you guys talk like kid. A whole Pastor saying somebody is twisting the bible when you can explicitly address the confusion.

A Prophet is not the Messiah or John.
The conversation between John and those Jews explicitly show it that.
Elijah is not Messiah.
Elijah is not The Prophet.

Messiah is not Elijah.
Messiah is not the Prophet.

The Prophet is not Elijah.
The Prophet is not Christ.

If you are Not Elijah,
Nor Messiah,
Neither the Prophet.

WHO Art Thou?

When they know that Messiah is the same as The Prophet, why were they seperating them?
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 4:50pm On Dec 11, 2013
Mintayo:
the fact that some jews did/do not accept Jesus is a prophecy fulfilled on its own.

Harbiola1:
^^^ 1 out of the points that dropped Jesus from the prophecy.
"LIKE UNTO THEE (like unto Moses)
Moses' people accepted him like Muhammed's(saw) people while Jesus's people rejected him.
Muhammed(saw) 1p
Jesus(as) 0p

one after the other pls.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 4:40pm On Dec 11, 2013
Emusan:
The question is, is christian and muslim serving the same God?
Why do you always ask this stewpid question? One worship God so if you know that u're worship someone else then you and i don't worship same God.
Meanwhile there is only One God.

Emusan:
why are you looking for something missing in another man's house?
At times u sound some how with this ur ridiculous questions and if a person ask u reasonable question you won't go straight.

A. May be u've been keeping what doesn't belong to u.
Religion / Re: Questions And Answers For Atheist by harbiola1(m): 4:21pm On Dec 11, 2013
Ranchhoddas: ...and you know this how?

Quran with Simple reasoning.
Religion / Re: Bible Fulfilled Prophecies by harbiola1(m): 2:17pm On Dec 11, 2013
WHξξ∟s:
What I deduce from this discourse is harbiola in his curious nature put a self substantiating question in a bid to acquire knowledge from the gentle christians here, and his intention was genuine that's why he humbled himself to beg for answers from you folks. The thread was about prophecies and fulfillments that's why he raised the issue of an awaited prophet, please share the knowledge with him if you know the person who fulfill that prophecy or excuse yourselves if you are ignorant about what he asked.

Don't mind them. they have nothing to say than what they were meant to believe.

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