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ckkris: Then why can't you restrain your comments to the religion you follow, and know well. Are you of the religion of violence.

Because CHRISTIANS are LIARS, CONFUSED, ARROGANTS, IGNORANCE, ENEMY OF TRUTH...

Truth is ur own HERESY.
CHRISTIANS ARE IDOLATORS.

Despite how u were warn the devil is still pushing u to those 100% confirmed PAGAN festivals (Christmas, Janus Feast, Easter).
You are shameless!

You rejected all the LAWS but didn't reject those that you'll be using to EXTORT from innocent gullible and brainwashed sheep.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Volunteers http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura Thirty Years' War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_years_warhttp://original.antiwar.com/eland/2009/02/14/battling-christian-terrorists/

You'd better don't quote me...

highyo: Ezk8:17b for they have filled the land with [size=20pt]violence,[/size]
and have returned to provoke me to
anger:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_Volunteers http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Liberation_Front_of_Tripura Thirty Years' War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_years_war http://original.antiwar.com/eland/2009/02/14/battling-christian-terrorists/

^^^ Is it enough?

The verse is refering to SUN-day worshipers (i.e CHRISTIANS)

Actually, u just jump on the CONCLUSSION thatt Muhammed(saw) said other Prophets were LIARS when bible clear said they were MURDERERS, FORNICA. TORS, DRUNKARDS, IDOLATORS...

Muhammed(saw) was doing what Jesus seems to have not enough time to do.
Let us summon our SENSES, do you think JESUS wouldn't have said something about those inconsistence stories in the bible?

Ministry of Jesus didn't last more than 3years. that 3 years wasn't only too small, but Jews won't also let him be.

Prior to the ascension of Jesus, it was reported that he told his Disciples that "I've many things to say to you but you can't bear them now".

Jesus surely had many things to say but his time wasn't enough.

I can sense the fact that if this brother see the truth, is gonna EMBRACE it.

Emusan: Muslims being denied the death of Jesus Christ or Son of God(or mostly as God) of which the origin & content of each side speaks more than this.

Conjecture! u don't even know who Jesus is.

Emusan: creation accounts by the people who came after Moses i.e Job 37 & 38, Heb 11:3 e.t.c[/b]

Question 1: Why didn't these people solve the issues of REDACTION errors in the OT.

Emusan: Qur'an claimed that EARTH was created from another body i.e heaven and earth were once in a mass before God caused them to be separated Sura 21:30 "Do not the Unbelievers see that the heavens and the earth were joined together [as one unit of creation], before we clove them asunder? We made from water every living thing. Will they not then believe?

"THE BIG BANG THEORY"

Emusan: Again Qur'an said the sky and earth speak when God called on them to come forth willingly or unwillingly [b]Sura 41:11. Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been [as] smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come [together], in willing obedience."

ALLAH IS GREATEST!

Emusan: Though they both agree on 6days creations and Adam & Eve.
[color=red]But the rest negate the creation accounts in the Bible.

REST, how?

Emusan: THE FLOOD
Another exciting story in the Bible is the flood of NOAH.
Genesis 7 details how many people who went into the Ark with Noah....number them as 8 peoples. How are will sure that this number is correct? The simple answer is God also comfirmed it through people who succeeded Moses:
1. Apostle Peter confirmed this in 1peter 3:20, 2peter 2:5
2. The writer of the book of Hebrew also did the same Heb 11:7

I've nt knwn why they did nt bother to correct those REDACTION errors so i'll reserve my comment.

Emusan: Qur'an said some people get converted through Noah's preaching and entered the Ark with him apart from his family. Sura 11:25-49
Again Qur'an also said one of the Noah's sons perished with the flood, Sura 11:43 "The son replied: "I will betake myself to some mountain: it will save me from the water." Noah said: "This day nothing can save, from the command of Allah, any but those on whom He hath mercy! "And the waves came between them, and the son was among those overwhelmed in the Flood"

ALLAH IS GREATEST!!!

Emusan: FALL OF SATAN
Prophet Isaiah was well known for his remarkable prophecies and visions. [b]In his book chapter 14:12-15 and 47:6-12, he spoke about Satan having said he will raise his throne above God and be like the Most High God as a result of this angel Michael waged war against satan and he was cast down to the earth. How true is this statement about satan?
We can agree with this because another Apostle attested it: In John's revelation in the NT, God confirmed this Rev 12:7-12

Bible [bible and not Harbiola1] clearly portrayed either John's or Jesus' statement as untrue by CONTRADICTING each other.

Emusan: Qur'an says Satan fell because he failed to submit/give worship to Adam when Adam was first created that God said let all the Angels submit/give worship to him. [b]Sura 7:11-16 "11. It is We Who created you and gave you shape; then We bade the angels prostrate to Adam, and they prostrate; not so Iblis(Satan); He refused to be of those who prostrate", sura 2:34

ALLAH IS GREATEST!!!

Emusan: ISAAC & ISMAIL
This is no more news that Quran says Ismail is the promised son while Isaac is the son of the bound woman but I choose it because it being confirmed by Apostle Paul in Galatians 4:28 [b]"Now we, brethen, as Isaac was, are the children of promise."

Even according to the story in the bible, the SON couldn't have been ISAAC bt ISMAIL

Emusan: PSALMS
You may wonder and ask why the book of psalms? Actually I found this as total false in Qur'an. In more than two verses in Qur'an stated that it is Allah who gave David the zabûr(Psalms) But what we know about the book of Psalms today is that; is the collection of one hundred and fifty lyrics which compose the 19 OT books.
The whole book of Psalms was not written by a single person.

Have u ever thought about the source of those discrepancies in the bible?

Emusan: In Yusuf Ali's translation thought to have noticed this problem quickly inserted this phrase into his book [the gift of].
[bUS, WE & OUR[/u

My message box can't contain more than 5000l bt i got ur point here and i guess u'll understand this.
Now can you brake down the word "ELOH [IM]".


Actually i don't want to engage in argument because it has never yield a better result in this forum, and that is the reason i like using QUESTION/ANSWER tactics.

Acidosis: You don't know what it takes to be a true follower of christ.

I'm not a christian but i can correctly assess u here.

Acidosis: Malachi 3:8 - Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

Lol, pastor who wouldn't want his church to ruin. He quote Old covenant to to rob. You're a cheat!

Acidosis: The bitter truth is, all christians who avoid tithes are thieves..

All pastors that use Old covenant in church are thieves.

Acidosis: As a matter of fact, Jehovah's witnesses are not followers of christ.

You are also a Roman Pagan follower not Jesus.

Acidosis: They do not believe in the real Jesus who promised to save the believers from eternal HELL FIRE.

Lol, Pastor wey sabi real and fake Jesus.

Unless ur righteousness exceed that of Pharisees u're in...

highyo: Ezikiel8:16-18
16 And he brought me into the inner
court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at
the door of the temple of the LORD,
between the porch and the altar, were
about five and twenty men, with their
backs toward the temple of the LORD, and
their faces toward the east; [size=15pt]and they
worshipped the sun toward the east.[/size]
17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen
this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to
the house of Judah that they commit the
abominations which they commit here?
for they have filled the land with [size=15pt]violence[/size],
and have returned to provoke me to
anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their
nose.
18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine
eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity:
and though they cry in mine ears with a
loud voice, yet will I not hear them.
believe me or not whosoever bow to the
east before praying to God is worshiping
the god of the sun

Lol, they were SUN-day worshipers (i.e Christians)

This Highyo is a big FOOL.
I knw that ur brain is just having exposure to fresh air. so lemme just help u a little here.

Thank God that u've known the evil behind CHRISTMAS, JANUS FEAST (i.eJanuary 1) and EASTER.

Did you know the EVIL behind SUN-day worshoping?

You can never stop being a PAGAN.

highyo: please, do not add to what I said. I am not condemning the time you spent in praying, if you have read my thread from the begining, you will know that I have praised the muslims for the time they spent in praying. But what is wrong is bowing to the east before you pray. You heard what the lord him self said about it in book of Ezikiel? Even if you yourself believe you are bowing to God, but your leader who initiate the idea of you bowing to east knows what you are doing.
Look at the 24 men who turn to the east and bow to the east too may think they were doing the right things, but look what the lord said to them?
Read the book of Ezikiel 8:16 again, islam practicing has being before the time of Jesus and the lord has always be angry with them, even when the 25 men started the practice of islam.
Bro think of how to save your own soul, no imam, father or mother will be there when God will be judging you, and if he condemn you, then you are lost forever in hell fire. Not for a day or trillion years, but it is forever.
Pls I love you and I want you and me to be save, Jesus is the way, and he love you even more than the love anyman will give to you.
Even if you have abused him, say alot of evil to him, he's a merciful God, he will forgive you. You yourself will know the truth and will set you free.

Audhubillahi Mina Shaytani Rojim!!!

Can you pls and pls quote where i've abused Jesus. I'd have said something harsh at you bt i know the type of person u're. After those Polytheist Trinitarian Pastors have clouded your brain for a very long time. You're just regaining ur brain and now giving in to Heretic Pastors. I hope God we deliver u finally because u're just on a frying pan after spending years on fire.

Now have u answered my question b4 delivering ur misguided sermon. Did i tell u to preach or to answer a question?
i knw that arguing is the best u can do and that is why u're trying to divert the discussion.

Now it is certain that the Disciples of Jesus that were called Christians in Antioch Faced East, Knocked their Heads on the floor three times a day to SERVE the Lord. I don't know who is rebellious between u and them, but it is certain that somebody is wrong.

And let me educate u about Islam.

Muslims don't face EAST to pray and quran did not say we should face EAST, WEST...

"And to Allah belongs the EAST and the WEST. So whenever you (Might)turn, there is the face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is All-encompassing and know." Quran 2:115.

We've many verses like this in the quran.

I pray towards EAST, Muslims in India pray toward WEST, Turkish face SOUTH, while Somalia Muslims face NORTH.

If i travel to a place where the direction to Qibla is West or North, i'm still praying to God.

And pls google the different between Salat and Dua'h because i may nt tolerate ur ignorance again but to lash u with it.

Macof nw playing defensive side with his common defensive saying "If you don't know ask ur elders"

Me i don't need to ask anybody, only GOOGLE GO DO.

It is ridiculous for a team/thread with strong players/apologists like this to be relegating to a lower division/2ndP.


***CHISTIANS WHERE ART THOU***

It is ridiculous for a team/thread with strong players/apologists like this to be relegating to a lower division/2ndP.


***CHISTIANS WHERE ART THOU***

highyo: All these has being Eradicated by God, and If we christian do things like that, we will be provoking God because its a slap on his face that the death of Jesus is not enough for us
God himself cancel all these

What verse?

highyo: The lord Jesus Christ is the Lamb of God, sacrificed for the purification of the sins of Mankind. Ever since the lord Jesus Christ has died for our sins, his blood has being cleaning us from all sins, and the sacrificing of Ram, Sheep, Goat and Cow has being canceled (Read)
Zechariah 13:1
English Standard Version (ESV)
13 “On that day there shall be a fountain opened for the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, to cleanse them from sin and uncleanness

Was this for Inhabitants of Jerusalem the alleged murderers of Jesus?

highyo: Why Killing of all these is wrong for Christians?
Read Isaiah 66:3
“He who slaughters an ox is like one who kills a man;
he who sacrifices a lamb, like one who breaks a dog's neck;
he who presents a grain offering, like one who offers pig's blood;
he who makes a memorial offering of frankincense, like one who blesses an idol.
These have chosen their own ways,
and their soul delights in their abominations

You are quoting Isaiah to strengthen ur heretic arguments?
Nw, After that verse, did righteous jews stop killing animals for their festival?


Did Jesus celebrate Jewish festivals or not?

highyo: Why it is wrong for Christians to bow down to the East is because it provoke God to anger
Ezikiel8:16-18
16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.
18 Therefore will I also deal in fury: mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: and though they cry in mine ears with a loud voice, yet will I not hear them.

believe me or not whosoever bow to the east before praying to God is worshiping the god of the sun

Acts 3:1 "One day, Peter and John were going up to the TEMPLE at the time of PRAYER at THREE in the afternoon."

These were the true followers of Jesus going to the TEMPLE to PRAY.

1. Pls help me google how Jews pray in the TEMPLE and tell us ur discovery.

2. Why did they have to go and PRAY at THREE?
let me guess ur google answer. i think it's because 3 o'clock PRAYER is the 2 out of 3 times Jewish daily PRAYER.

Acts 2:45 "Every day they continued to meet together in the TEMPLE"

With all these that i'm seeing, op would have to reverse the view about Yorubas. very funny, despite the complexity of yorubaland, just 1 house is convincing u.

But my Yoruba people have finally had it nw, ready to pour it down so they can pick it from the ground.

How do i eulogise u guys

Desola: It is a sad turn of events, not only religiously but morally.

Even our african people have forgotten that Morality is the birth right of an African Man.
We're Africans for goodness sake. We are not to be following these people with our two eyes closed because they are as Intellectually Good as Morally Bad.

* Africans Should Beware*

If our fathers also marked "NO GO ZONE" for their non-indigenious contemporaries, Nigeria would've damned since.


*INTOLERANCE BREEDS VIOLENCE!!!*

WHO SAYS THERE IS NO VOODOO?

NOW ESCALATOR SHOULD ESCALATE THIS TO THE FP.

NicholasBu: My beloved muslim brother, have you considered Isaiah 9:6? For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Pastor, should i create a thread for this?
But there may not be chance for argument sha. And i promise its gonna be a season film.

waiting for ur reply

Emusan: Thank God you're worship God.

I know this question is a big problem for muslims to answer.

As in like BIG eh?

you have issues!!!

Don famous: specimen? Experiment? Hope you are not talkin abt nuclear weapon experiment. (bomb) if it is that na beg i dey beg o lolz

Lol, Heaven is sweet yet no one wan die.

Have you ever seen superstitious bomb attack

Happy for MaMa!!!

@ALL, MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS ARE NOT SERVING THE SAME GOD OOO...

MUSLIMS SERVE GOD WHILE CHRISTIANS SERVE JESUS.
SO HOW ARE THEY THE SAME PLS

Emusan: Very plenty! don't worry wait for my thread tomorrow.

I never create any thread about Islam this one will be first time.

Your thread? we'll force you out with great quotes from the bible and the quran.
You never no MEME.

...

Emusan: Muslims never seem to amaze me.
Must they force Muhammad into Bible before he is being accepted? Whereas muhammad himself never meet up the requirement of any past prophets.

Wait for my thread tommorow about this.

Shalom!

We are discussing and not arguing, u can join if interested.

Mintayo: Messiah

Yeah! Moshiach (Hebrew) is the same as Messiah (English).

Can you pls tell how we arrived at Messiah and its meaning?

Mintayo: Answered in my frmer post


i dnt knw the point you are trying to make here. But if you read from verse 1 of the chapter 17,you will know that what happend here was the transfiguration. And pls reread slowly cus i dnt get ur point here.

I understood what happened.
But
Who was not aware of the Transfiguration that happened, Jesus or John the Baptist? Because their statements strongly opposed each other.

Mintayo: 1. Who is a prophet?

According to the verse, they were expecting
1. ELIJAH
2. CHRIST
3. A PROPHET

Jesus said John was the Elijah, but John said He is not Elijah.


And they asked him, "Why Baptist thou? if thou be
1. NOT THE CHRIST
2. NOR ELIJAH
3. NEITHER THAT PROPHET.
John 1:25

Then Elijah said "I'm the voice in the wilderness, clear the way for the Lord"

Question: B4 the transfiguration, who is the voice in Isaiah that John quoted?

Mintayo: 2. who do u think john the baptist was sent to prepare the way for?

John was surely sent to prepare the way for Messiah.

Mintayo: 3.Which prophet were they expecting?

Gobe!!!

Apart from slight confusion, we can conclude that we've known
1. ELIJAH in person of John the Baptist (Even though John denied it)

2. CHRIST in person of Jesus (The awaiting Messiah)

3. THAT PROPHET (?).


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cbrass: "the most hated people by GOD"

And i hope Idolators (Jesus worshipers) are the beloved?

You are being taken for a ride by cocroach horse.

Emusan: Is Christian and Muslim serving the same God?

I worship God while you worship Jesus.

The error is clear.

Ken_Jak: Is Nehemiah in old or new testament?

Not funny! although i laughed.
But seriouly, don't you knw that is how Antioch christians prayed.

They said the practice of Jesus is outdated and u ignorantly believed them. SMH!

Tolexander: Blame islam for this!

Abi nah! Pastor is reading the Quran but who is his teacher? Jesus.

Ken_Jak: But things like this are happening too much in igbo land,why?

Boko Haram is penetrating the place.

bizmahn: where are the steps to improve inter faith coexistence when all I see is lip service & your peeps go on killing innocent christians all over the world including those that make huge sacrifices to help the needy among you.

It is sad that not all Muslims are as perfect as Islam.
I'm not an ingrate, but if i may ask who are those sacrificial lambs u're talking about.?

bizmahn: You blindly speak of the bible commanding killing of non christians.Are those people people christians or jews.Show me a single verse in the new testament or teachings of Jesus that commands killing.

Bros, you are denying Jews abi? you christians could be funny at times.

Christianity of today is a hijacked Judaism Cult.
Without God of OT there is no God of NT.

Without OT as a whole there is no NT as a whole.

Judaism is the faith of Jesus.

You can't differentiate between those that were called Christians in antioch and Judaism Practitioners.

They worshiped together at the same time and place.

They celebrated the same festivals in the same day and manner.

They proclaimed the Unique oneness of God with no coequal.

I hope you know why?

bizmahn: How many time in this country have christians ever arisen to kill muslims unprovoked.Yet in the time of peace your folks keep killing innocent christians without any iota of provocation including harmless children & pregnant women.

We can call them Muslims but they have violated the rules of Islam.
And u don't open one eye and blind the other in one direction if u want to be sincere.
What about those Christ Militias in Tripura, Nagaland, Uganda... are their victims not human being?

bizmahn: Your holy books carry contents that command killing of infidels.

You haven't shown me one.

bizmahn: This forum is filled with it so I won't even waste my time & even the ones that clearly expose the hypocrisy of you folks will be moved to islamic section & hidden.

You are a hypocrite unless u clear urself of the mess. I'm here with no support of Islam section mods that u hypocrites always excuse urself with. Display the truth if u have any.

bizmahn: Abegi make we hear.We know you people.Holy book that never encourage killing yet heartless brutal killings all over the world in the name of this religion of peace.

Jesus never preached killings yet you guys have the worst record in history.

I don't think u knw any other things aside the ones ur pastors told you. Your ignorance is alarming.

Aaaaah! Prove Islam wrong ke, u're very funny. When i can even use you as a specimen for a superstitious experiment.

Aaaaah! Prove Islam wrong ke, u're very funny. When i can even use you as a specimen for a superstitious experiment.

italo: The problem is that you will deliberately refuse to see it.

Refusal to see the truth is not the last thing that i'll do, but what i'll never do.
Now i pledge to see the truth through you and i hope u've also pledged to see the truth true me.

italo: The Truth is a person - Jesus Christ.

I need not to tell you that I accept Jesus(as) as the truth.

italo: Even your Religion has no choice that to accept this.

One's Islam is not completed without accepting Jesus as the truth.

italo: Mohammed says the Bible and Torah are divine.

One's Islam is not completed without accepting the two as the word of God.

italo: These books show Jesus to be God...

While the prophets of these books can't lie. What if we finally found some conspiracy theories that imply that some people lied in the name of these great People after they have left this world.

Jonathan can not be responsible for all these imperfections in Nigeria. Some people are surely doing what he hasn't sent them to do.

italo: The way, The Truth and The life.

Jesus is the way(?) truth(?) and the life(?).

Noah, Abraham, Moses John... were clearly described also as the way, truth and life. No one would have eternal life in their respective times except through them

B4 Jesus, God had already condemned some people to hell and others to paradice.
To these people does the coming of Jesus make any difference