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POPE'S QUESTION: What is the name of God in OT/NT?

What language did Jesus spoke?

What is the name of God in that language?


Ask me ur own question.

Lol, you guys played smart on me.
Thank God it's two of you.

Pls lets give it a RULE.

1. We are three that can ask one another a question- Pope, Francis and Harbiola.

2. Other members whether Muslim or Christian can only answer a question since it is Islam and Christianity things.

4. No dodging of Questions.

3. You don't ask a question and answer it by urself, however, u can refute an answer from an opponent using QURAN, BIBLE AND WELL RESEARCHED SOURCES.

NOTE: I won't use Al-quran to refute a christian answer.
but i can use Al-quran in some cases to explain some practices in Islam.

FrancisTony: oya nah! The topic is muslim and their moon god!

Lol, it's done and i promise u a very big supprise.

Should i spare this FOOL[s] my words

Let their order of Stupi[di]ty determines.

Lol, i wonder what these Hypocrite LIARs have been reading from their book if none of them can answer this Simple Question from the Book that they have committed their Life to.

Lol, i can see somebody praying to Holy spirit for an answer.
Let's hear what [S]he has to say.

FrancisTony: I don't get the bolded parts. Ermmm, front page as in? U mean Nairaland forum FP or religion FP?

Haba! i said u can choose a topic for our discussion.

And i hope religion has its own section, and once a new thread with new topic is created, such topic is always on the Fp.

FrancisTony: u want to move the thread to FP. Why not change the name of the thread.

Just to indicate the involved individuals.

But it is nt all about me, so any other suggestion is welcome. And yeap, we're on the FP.

doubleDx: Smdh !!!

Laughter nah stubborn fellow, I can't help it.

POPE II: Yeaa go ahead

Nice 1!!!

Look out for this on the FP "Pope Francis here we go".

This will be around 4-5pm.

FrancisTony: as you wish it shall be done sir! *GRIN*

Weldone!
I hope Pope is involved
He should endorse this and we can get into action 2mrrow.

noblefada: Guess your question was not answered because its irrelevant and we are not ready to waste our time answering irrelevant stuff. Shalom

You opin counts, but if u can manage to switch on ur brain, then u'll know that question is very relevant.

Honestly, these guys are all LIARs.
None of them have Holy spirit, if they did as they use to claim, then i wonder what it's useful for.

Lol, Pope and Francis, you guys seriously don't worth my time.

But i think you need some lecture on Christianity and Islam.


I Feel like creating a thread for three of us, menh, it'll be very interesting. Answering-islam, wikiislam... are there.

What do you two think, should we?

vosquare: Now wondering is his surname christ?

this question seriouly wan make me because Jesus no get Papa.

vosquare: so also christ means the messiah,anointed etc.

1. Yeshua is an Aramaic name meaning "Yahweh is Salvation".

Iesous in Greek is the rendition of Yeshua.

Iesus is Latin derived from Greek Iesous.

Jesus is an English word from Latin Iesus.
So, Jesus literally means "Yahweh/God is Salvation".

Jesus' parent named him Yeshua.

2. Messiah/Christ unlike Jesus, is the heavenly title of the coming Messiah which turned out to be Jesus.

Mosshiac is a Hebrew word for "Annointed one" like you rightly said.
Kristos/Christos is a Greek word for "Annointed one".

We got Messiah in English from Hebrew Mosshiac.
And
Christ in English from Greek word Kristos.
Both meaning
"The Annointed One"

okeyxyz: Lol.., you guys obviously don't know me.

Who art thou

okeyxyz: Okay, so we've established that you are not christian, and I assume you are of the following of Black Hebrew movement. You are still under the law. No wahala.

^^^

Jesus: Matthew 5:17-20. 17. THINK NOT that i've come to destroy the LAW, or the PROPHETS, i am not come to DESTROY, but to FULFIL.

What saith thou

okeyxyz: You say Paul did not condemn the law?? WRONG!!!

^^^

Jesus: 19. WHOSOEVER therefore shall break ONE of these least commandments and shall teach men so, he shall be called the LEAST in the kingdom of heaven..."

okeyxyz: There is just only one way that anybody today will see and believe in absolute grace without the law and that is from the letters of Paul.

You mean Jesus was talking about

okeyxyz: Every other book in the bible we have today does not make a categorical statement nor a reasonable case for grace.

Law brings grace!!!

okeyxyz: The doctrine of grace today would not exist without Paul's letters. Paul was an absolute grace preacher and encourage people to be like himself,

Jesus never told Paul to do this, infact, they never met.
What did those that dine/wine with Jesus said

okeyxyz: though he also allowed people whose conscience and faith were not firmly grounded in grace to continue gradually, as if there were still some remnants of the law that were still active.

Are you following Jesus or Paul.
You can't follow the two in this regard cos one said Law and the other said Grace.

okeyxyz: But as far as he(Paul) was concerned the law was dead and abolished.

^^^

Jesus: 18. for verily i say unto you, till HEAVEN and EARTH pass, one JOT or or one TITTLE shall in no wise pass from the LAW till all be FULFIL.

What saith thou

okeyxyz: Faith just has no regards to works of the law, but to demonstrate that you have faith you must show the works of your faith.

How

okeyxyz: James was not talking about works of the law but of faith.

Who says, You or Paul

okeyxyz: The works of faith is demonstrated by living as though you have no regard for the law.

^^^

Jesus: 18. for verily i say unto you, till HEAVEN and EARTH pass, one JOT or or one TITTLE shall in no wise pass from the LAW till all be FULFIL.

What saith thou, Has heaven and Earth passed if not check urself.

okeyxyz: Where the law says "You must not eat meat offered to idols..." I say "rubbish, the earth is the lord's and everything in it. All things are sanctified to the elect...

Lol, smart thou!

okeyxyz: "I go ahead to "demolish" the food with my mouth and stomach .

No funny bro, it's very wrong.

okeyxyz: You see, that is the works of faith, in defiance to the works of the law which would demanded abstinence from such food.

And in defiance to Jesus' statement.

okeyxyz: Regarding the elect, I am an elect. I am a 100-percent, absolute grace christian. I totally disregard the law of Moses as is interpreted by the world.

^^^

Jesus: Matthew 5:17-20. 17. THINK NOT that i've come to destroy the LAW, or the PROPHETS, i am not come to DESTROY, but to FULFIL.

Jesus warns thou though.

okeyxyz: I am a 100-percent Pauline doctrine christian. I give no regard to holy days, what I eat, what music I listen to, what I wear, whom I have sex with as long as it is woman and the relationship is consensual, etc, My doctrine is just incorruptible.

You're OYO!

okeyxyz: Absolutely nothing in regard to the law. So, yes you are right that there are an elect few who have been selected unto grace but your error is in thinking that they were literal Israelites and have gone with history and would not be in the present time. Well, you are "speaking" to one of them.

Jesus: 20. for i say to you that UNLESS your righteousness exceeds the the righteousness of the scribes and pharisees, you will by no means ENTER the kingdom of heaven.

Hope you don't want to deceive youself

The is no way your righteousness could reach let alone exceed thatof pharisees without LAW.

Check ur bible, the true Disciples never apandoned the law till they were dead.

So, WHO ART THOU

And the thread goes back to P1 the second time... Hope we're consulting Holy-spirit and not just sleeping?

POPE II: I'm not interested in igbo paganism per see, so where u are from doesn't matter.
I will open don't worry

Lol, Pagan Vs pagan.
Pope wan hear torri.

20 views, No answer. Lets count another 20 view, may be somebody will come on stage.

POPE II: what is this one saying sef .

The sentence is too grammatical i pressumed?
Anyway, what he was saying is that u should grow up like him.

Isaiah 7:1-16 are the verses of the book of Isaiah in which Prophet Isaiah, addressing King Ahaz of Judah, promising the King Ahaz that God will destroy his enemies; as a sign that his Prophecy is a true one, Isaiah predicts that a Almah will shortly give birth to a child whose name will be Immanuel "God with us".
And that the threat from the enemy Kings will be ended before the child grows up.

HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
In the mid-8th Century BCE, the kingdom of Isreal (called Ephraim in Isaiah) and its ally Aram-damascus (or Syria) besieged Jerusalem to force King Ahaz of Judah into joining a coalition against Assyria, the aggresive "great power" to the North-East. Ahaz turned to Assyria itself for help, but although the Assyrians destroyed Syria and Ephraim, Judah became Assyrian vassal.

The history Isaiah was a Prophet in jerusalem during the reign of Ahaz and Hezekiah. The prophecy in these verses was delivered during the Joint Ephraimite-Syrian siege, but was probably written down during the Assyrian siege in the time of Ahaz and then revised again when Judah came into conflict with Babylon.

Isaiah 7:1-10.
Judah is faced with invasion by its Northern neighbours, Isreal (also called Ephraim) and Aram-Damascus(Syria).

But God instructs the Prophet Isaiah to tell King Ahaz that God will destroy Judah's enemy (Isaiah 7:1-10);

When Ahaz was king of Judah, Rezin, king of Syria and Pekah was king of Isreal, marched on Jerusalem, they were unable to prevail against it.
When the House of David was told that Syria had allied itself with Ephraim, their hearts and the hearts of their people trembled.
But the Lord said to Isaiah,
"God out to meet Ahaz, you and Shearjushub your Son. and say to him,
"Be firm and keep calm; The lord has said,
"It will not happen".

The Prophecy - Isaiah 7:11-16:

Isaiah: Isaiah 7:10 Moreover the lord spoke again to ahaz saying.

Prophet Isaiah approach king Ahaz to deliver God's message.

Isaiah: 11. Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God, ask it either in the depth or in the height above.

Isaiah delivers God's message to Ahaz and tells him to ask for a sign to confirm that this is a true Prophecy.

King Ahaz: 12. But ahaz said, I will not ask nor will i test the Lord

Ahaz refuses saying he will not test God.

Isaiah: 13. Then He said, hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also.

Isaiah replied that Ahaz will have a sign whether he asks for it or not.

Isaiah: 14. Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign, behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name, Immanuel.

And Isaiah said the SIGN will be the birth of a child by a VIRGIN, and she shall call his name IMMANUEL "God is with Us".
First Sign would be the birth of a child by a Virgin whom will name her child Immanuel.

Isaiah: 15. Curds and honey he shall eat that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the good.

Second sign was that the child would be eating Curds and Honey till he is matured.

Isaiah: 16. For before the child knows to reject the bad and choose the good, desolation will come upon the land of the two kings before whom you now cower

By the time the Infant (i.e Immanuel) learns to reject the bad and choose the good (i.e Before the child reach puberty). Isreal and Syria the opponent of King Ahaz will be destroyed.

QUESTION: DID GOD FULFIL HIS COVENANT WITH KING AHAZ? (I.E A VIRGIN BORNE A CHILD)

macof: I have never lied on this thread
And I don't think I have ever lied on this forum

And u're still lying.

macof: I have never lied on this thread
And I don't think I have ever lied on this forum

And u're still lying.

macof: I have never lied on this thread
And I don't think I have ever lied on this forum

And u're still lying.

I know u guys are ready for argument, but I'm done here for good.

You will do yourself a favor if you ask urself the question above and answer it to urself.

The word (Almah) that Prophet Isaiah used has no connotation to Virgin that the Author of Matthean used.

Almah means "Young woman" whether Virgin or non Virgin in Hebrew.
Betulah means "Virgin" whether old or young in Hebrew.

The ghost author of that Matthean verse deliberately changed the word Almah (Hebrew) to Partheon (Greek) to deceive people like he did in many others.
I don't think his effort was futile.

POPE II: ^ so Jesus is a liar ? Yet Moslem claim he was a Muslim and a prophet. Wonderful religion. No wonder your creator was a pedophile warlord .

ODE, OPONU, AKIN-DIN-DIN-RIN-AKIN-DANI-DANI-NIO.

RONU!!! PONDER!!!

STOP BEING FOOL.LISH

FrancisTony: Is that ur latest topic?

Yeah! you will see your folks.


I wan LAUFFF...

Oya on the frontpage.

Pls follow me can't this abeg.

FrancisTony: Jesus means Saviour

1.

FrancisTony: and it's a hebrow word.

2.
Ignorance is reigning in some people's life ooo.

See these two OGBONGE LIARs that this brother is relying is soul on.

1a. Moshiach >Kristos> Christ (Anointed one)

1.b Iesous> Iesus> Jesus (Yahwe is Salvation)

Iesous is>Greek
Iesus is >Latin
Jesus > English

No wonder...

noblefada: let me educate u a bit

Pls don't just educate him a bit because he doesn't understand bible at all.

FrancisTony: @harbiolar the prophesy was fufilled.

I Know the prophecy was fulfil, abi no be bible again?

My Question is that. "DID GOD FULFIL IS COVENANT WITH KING AHAZ?"

macof: See this guy yarnin Jewish history. Nice sha

Yeah, Nice!!!

macof: But if only u knew about ur Arab masters

Can you pls create a thread to lecture me what i may not know?

POPE II: can u go back to your section? Can we come in your quarantined section and preach/post anti Islamic stuffs?

Does this answer my QUESTION?

POPE II: I blame the mods who allow a lowlife

Trust me, u're not in any way better than this.

POPE II: and cockroach like you to question Christianity and insult our belief

I don't get this.

Where have i insulted you here for goodness sake?
Since i've said SORRY once, i've been minding my posts to prevent this kind of absurd accusation.

And a truth is not an insult until it is refuted.
Can you do this and stop behaving like a toddler?

POPE II: This Moslem sef

It is beyond ur level i pressumed

Pls take a chair and be watching.

Isaiah 7:1-16 are the verses of the book of Isaiah in which Prophet Isaiah, addressing King Ahaz of Judah, promising the King Ahaz that God will destroy his enemies; as a sign that his Prophecy is a true one, Isaiah predicts that a Almah will shortly give birth to a child whose name will be Immanuel "God with us".
And that the threat from the enemy Kings will be ended before the child grows up.

HISTORICAL CONTEXT.
In the mid-8th Century BCE, the kingdom of Isreal (called Ephraim in Isaiah) and its ally Aram-damascus (or Syria) besieged Jerusalem to force King Ahaz of Judah into joining a coalition against Assyria, the aggresive "great power" to the North-East. Ahaz turned to Assyria itself for help, but although the Assyrians destroyed Syria and Ephraim, Judah became Assyrian vassal.

The history Isaiah was a Prophet in jerusalem during the reigns of Ahaz and Hezekiah. The prophecy in these verses was delivered during the Joint Ephraimite-Syrian siege, but was probably written down during the Assyrian siege in the time of Ahaz and then revised again when Judah came into conflict with Babylon.

Isaiah 7:1-10.
Judah is faced with invasion by its Northern neighbours, Isreal (also called Ephraim) and Aram-Damascus(Syria).

But God instructs the Prophet Isaiah to tell King Ahaz that God will destroy Judah's enemy (Isaiah 7:1-10);

When Ahaz was king of Judah, Rezin, king of Syria and Pekah was king of Isreal, marched on Jerusalem, they were unable to prevail against it.
When the House of David was told that Syria had allied itself with Ephraim, their hearts and the hearts of their people trembled.
But the Lord said to Isaiah,
"God out to meet Ahaz, you and Shearjushub your Son. and say to him,
"Be firm and keep calm; The lord has said,
"It will not happen".

The Prophecy - Isaiah 7:11-16:

FrancisTony: Isaiah 7:10 moreover the lord spoke again to ahaz saying,

Prophet Isaiah approach king Ahaz to deliver God's message.

FrancisTony: 11. Ask a sign for yourself from the Lord your God, ask it either in the depth or in the height above.

Isaiah delivers God's message to Ahaz and tells him to ask for a sign to confirm that this is a true Prophecy.

FrancisTony: 12. But ahaz sai, i will not ask nor will i test the Lord

Ahaz refuses saying he will not test God.

FrancisTony: 13. Then he said, hear now, O house of David! Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will you weary my God also.

Isaiah replied that Ahaz will have a sign whether he asks for it or not.

FrancisTony: 14. Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign, behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name, Immanuel.

And Isaiah said the SIGN will be the birth of a child by a VIRGIN, and she shall call his name IMMANUEL "God is with Us".

FrancisTony: 15. Curds and honey he shall eat that he may know to refuse the evil and choose the good.

16. For before the child knows to reject the bad and choose the good, desolation will come upon the land of the two kings before whom you now cower.

VERSE 16 ADDED BY HARBIOLA[/b]

And by the time the Infant (i.e Immanuel) learns to reject the bad and choose the good (i.e is old enough to know the right from wrong) he will be eating Curds and Honey, then Ephraim and Syria the opponent of King Ahaz will be destroyed

QUESTION 1. WAS GOD FOOLING KING AHAZ WITH THIS PROPHECY OR WAS THE PROPHECY FULFILED TO HIM (I.E A VIRGIN BORNE A CHILD)[/b]

FrancisTony: mathew 1: 22 so all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet saying
23. Behold, the virgin shall be with child and bear a son, and they shall call his name Immanuel, which is translated, God is with us.

Kindly answer the question above, your answer will address Matthew verses.

FrancisTony: Mathew is talking abt Jesus.
Isaiah is also talking about Jesus, but i'm confuse abt the bolded part. Thanks #shalom

It is clearly explained.

My answer!!!