The popular Ponzi scheme, MMM Nigeria which staged a surprise comeback has been unable to fulfil it vows by paying participants whose money have been stucked in the pyramid scheme since last year. The current impasse may not be unrelated with the fact that the system is in a state of bankruptcy . Aggrieved Nigerians have decided to take to Twitter to voice their concerns over the uncertainty that has been brewing in the system since its comeback.
Saintesquire: [you are just a meddlesome interloper. He will cancel it right? And what's your business? Don't you have any meaningful things doing than to meddle with mmm. quote author=hardballripplez post=52917509] I see this as a propaganda. KINDLY TAKE A SCREENSHOT LIKE YOU JUST DID AND POST IT ON NAIRALAND ONCE YOU GET MATCHED AND PAID THE MONEY. I am thinking this individual go cancel this PH. show us u hera? then we can believe you
. Aside being sick. You seem like an individual who lacks cognitive reasoning . This is what happens when people like you get access to the internet, you only end up spitting nonsens and gibberrish. only if you could reason,You'll know people end up canceling the PH. I am almost sure u have some cash in this ponzi pyramid scheme and that's why you are in support of every propaganda that would see more people put their hard earned cash in this nonsens. Don't see any much difference between you and a com on thief.
danowena: Three million is my spare money. And what makes you think I have not helped those around me? Moreover, I can decide to use any other spare money I have for casino, bitches, holidays abroad, buy a land ,give to church or throw at beggers on the street. It is really not your business or headache. It is my money, I worked for it and I can spend it as I like without owing you or any person for that matter an explanation. What may be huge for you may be spare cash for others. What you should do is pray that God should bless you so that you can play bigger games. There are people that buy brand new cars for their girl friends, I have not reached that level but will get there by God's grace. I don't beef them , I just pray to be better than them.
Do you even know what I do with the 30% clause? Don't be judgemental without facts.
I see this as a propaganda. KINDLY TAKE A SCREENSHOT LIKE YOU JUST DID AND POST IT ON NAIRALAND ONCE YOU GET MATCHED AND PAID THE MONEY. I am thinking this individual go cancel this PH. show us u hera? then we can believe you. people would say they will will PH and they end up cancelling it. no police go hold u when u cancel it and we won't know here. so kindly show us a screenshot of the payment. MMM needs money, ofcourse they will match you
Over 92 hours since the ponzi scheme, Mavrodi Mundial Moneybox, MMM, announced its return and unfreezing of Mavros after a month’s freezing of access to requesting financial help (GH), it has again begun removing the Get Help (GH) access of some of the participants, otherwise called Mavrodians. The reason given is that the measure is to ensure a balance between Get Help (GH) and Provide help (PH).
Although a few participants have claimed they had been paired with who would pay them their returns, otherwise known as Provide Help (PH), no one has been paid so far.
Many have even begun lamenting the inability to get help despite the scheme’s announcement that the Mavros had been unfrozen.
However, more anxiety have begun looming as most of the participants woke up today again to discover that their request for help have been removed, a situation that has further heightened the fears of the ponzi scheme really coming back to normal.
mmm Some of the participants, in a WhatsApp group have these complaints:
One participant with the name, Abisoye said, “Have gh since Friday but yet to be match.”
Another, Fola said, “I was merged ystd but not yet paid.”
Another, Chinwenwe said, ” And I can’t see my Gh money in the dashboard. Have refresh it severally, am not seeing it.”
Another participant, perhaps, a promoter, known as Guider, said, “I refused to sleep last night. I was able to GH for almost all my downliners.”
Other promoters of the scheme wrote to allay the fears of the participants, saying the removal of the GH is a further measure taken to moderate those requesting for help and hence, have a balance between (GH) and (PH).
One of them, Olaarowolo wrote, “Please be informed that some GH are temporary removed because measures to ensure that there are balances between PH-GH, GH-PH. Please do not panic. As matched orders are cleared, relief with spread. Thank you.”
Another promoter, Prince_Demilade, wrote, ” pls do not panic U may have observed that you cannot find your GH order in your dashboard as well as d introduction of letters to the catcha on logging. This is just evidence of work going on on d new model… Your money is not lost and u can still see it in your mavro as pending withdrawals.. BE INFORMED.”
“Good morning Mavrodians, I have been receiving complaints regarding GH request no longer on MMM Dashboard and GH amount exceeds allowed daily maximum limit when GH button is clicked.”
“Like i said earlier the new model has been introduced and programmers are working relentlessly on the website to make sure everything is working perfect so we should play our own role by exercising patient and wait for the programmers to finish what they have started.”
“Please do not panic if you experience any changes and please do not cancel any processed GH or PH to avoid your account being placed on moratorium.Your money is still intact and in safe hands. Long live MMM Nigeria!”
And yet, another promoter gave the following reasons for the removal of the GHs. In what he titled, “Why Your Get Help (GH) Orders Were Removed, ” he explained thus:
“Many participants woke up this morning to see that their Get Help (GH) orders have been removed completely from their PO’s Dashboard. Though some people called it canceled but the truth of the matter is that it was only removed not canceled. Please note that the GH orders were not cancelled because if cancelled, you will see it at the right hand side as deleted.”
“It was removed because of the following reasons: There is an ongoing upgrade because programmers are always working on the MMM system every day so the promised New Model can be unveiled as soon as possible. You might notice earlier this morning, the login Captcha was showing alphanumeric as against the numbers until it restored to numbers later today.”
“Why is the upgrade taking so long? Why not shut down the website and finish the upgrade once and for all? Have you thought of the unprecedented panic it will cause if MMM Nigeria Personal Office website is shut down for 1hour? Again, www.mmmoffice.com is not only for Nigeria, it is being used by MMM in other countries too.”
“Moreso, many participants have formed the habit of cancelling their GH orders and creating new GH orders hoping they will be matched earlier. There is no need for that anyway but to forestall that, the created GH orders were removed and that is why you can’t create new GH orders because the old GH orders have not been cancelled but removed and withdrawal is still pending.”
“There is no cause for any alarm over the removed GH orders, if you check your Mavro, you will notice the value of the removed GH order has been restored and had also increased though it is still showing pending withdrawal.”
“Incase you missed these tweets from @MMMNigeriaHelp earlier: There have been reports of “removed GH orders” in some POs. The removed GH orders are mostly GH orders created on Friday/Saturday.”
“There is no cause for any alarm. The value of the removed GH order has been restored and increased though showing pending withdrawal.” “ The removal of the GH orders and other changes/errors you might notice are indications that the #NewModel is taking shape gradually.” “Tuesday (Mavro growing day), a lot of participants created GH orders thus the message “GH amount exceeds allowed daily maximum”. “Please await further instructions either to create a new GH order or if it will be automatically restored and matched. We crave your indulgence, patience & understanding at this period. We are doing our best to have these issues/upgrades resolved ASAP.” “Let’s be patient while the Administrators of MMM do their best to restore the confidence we have in the system,” he wrote.
AntiWailer: Correct 100%. The greedy ones will still nack head.
It is better to count losses and move on.
Instead of waiting for other people to fall victim and bail them out.
I pity those who have huge money in the scheme. Not all these 5k, 15k, 20k forming bank alert.
I can tell you that most people who 'invested' 100k and above in the scheme can not even click the "GH" button not to talk of getting their money.
They will come out to lie about it. The truth staring at 'investors' remains that MMM is not yet back and will likely not be back.
The time they chose to FREEZE account was a miscalculation from whoever their strategists are.
People are usually broke in January and you can't even get as much to keep the system rolling. This is one of the major reasons MMM will die sooner than we expect.
Even the die hard marketers are just waiting to get their money and bail out. Not for the love of the system.
As for those counting 500Million 'Macro' on the screen. Kontinue.
N:B The truth is bitter and those sending mails that i should stop or be neutral should stop sending me mails because I wont stop.
MYJIST: hmm... well.. if you think that i'm a Christian now because I was born in a Christian family... that's false... been born into a Christian family only made me closer to the truth... so when I was ready... I searched but didn't have to look far to find it... It's called Divine Orchestration.. and if you've been thinking that going to Church makes one a Christian... well.. lemme tell you... that until you believe that God exists first of all.... you are notable to please Him... so for with the heart man believes unto... righteousness and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.. see.. ROMANS 10vs 10... for you to have believed there's a place for rational thinking... you must have come to terms with what you've been hearing.... you become a Christian when open your mouth based on conviction to accept God... about knowing... I don't just know... I have the experiences to back up that God is real... through the manifestations of the Holy Spirit. present in any fellowship of the body of Christ.... this is practicality... not just studying verses and making analysis... if I tell you that water wets paper and you are doubtful.. then the easiest way is to carry out a practical test for you to see.. so you forget your human analysis when you see the actual result.... What I was saying is... Experience... not analysis or religion.... the Holy Spirit brings us... into an experience...
GerogeI: Please research things before putting them down. The untrue image of Lucifer you paint is troublesome and dangerous.
Lucifer or "heylel," "heosphoros" or "lucifer," also called the dragon, is the Light bearer and is not second in command to God, although he was a high ranking being, a Cherub. Remember, "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God" John 1:1. That tells us Christ was there with God in the beginning. Lucifer was created, part of all the other none earthly things created through the word of God.
As to his role in heaven - it was said that he walked before God, as in leading a procession that goes before a royalty. Hence was created simply beautiful. Am not to sure about this role of it, as it is based on the meaning of its name.
This should help But then it's role on earth was quite clear. He was at the Garden of Eden, Ezekiel 28:11-17: "Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty. Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee."
Why was it there- as a covering angel? as the light bearer? not too sure When did it commit the sin? It says iniquity was found in it, other verses said it desired to ascend to heaven and replace the Almighty - Elohim. That was its primary sin, but when did this occur, am not sure if on earth before or after Adam.
Isaiah 14:12-15: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit."
However it has other sins, directly or indirectly accruing to him - It rejected to rank lower than Adam, hence stole the kingdom of earth from him by deceit - Genesis - Corruption, of the Watchers, who came down on earth and corrupted men, revealing the secrets of heaven and bearing abominations as offsprings - the book of Enoch, the origin of elemental spirits that the op sought to know about. - As the Prince of Persia, Daniel 10:12-21 it waged war against heaven on earth, before Christ defeated it when He descended into hell after crucifixion. Christ took back from it the Kingdom and Authority it stole from Adam. Yes, before Christ it seems it closely ranked Arch Angel Gabriel, not sure it out ranked Micheal, it operated with the authority of Adam, who God had made a little above the angels. After Christ, it is definitely lower than all Angels. Defeated -Revelation.
Revelation 12:7-12: "And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him"
Bottom Line, The Lucifer Adam faced has since changed in status and rank, having been defeated by Christ, it ranks so much lower than us humans, and is awaiting the fulfilment of time for its demise.
Christ speaking himself said: Luke 10:18-20: "And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven."
Lies. The guy in the other clip is called Khalid yasin( you can google the name). He was a christian who converted to Islam and became a preacher. Allah made it hapen that through him thousands would convert to Islam.
Kindly go watch these videos. May Allah guide you to the truth if you truly seek it. don't follow lies. Khalid Yasin was a former christian not a muslim who converted to christianity.
Mailthaddeus: The divinity of JESUS CHRIST can not be comprehended with mere argument. It takes a deeper reflection and revelation of the holy spirit to fully understand it.
Jesus is the son man, this means that he has two nature. He wz 100% man then and 100% God. The bible said He was like us in all things but sin. He lived a sinless life only committed to the salvation of man kin . All the write up by the Koran about Jesus are all wrong, and all geared towards creating deceit in d minds of Muslims about Who jesus truely is.
Fine, they accept the fact that he wz born miraculously, and had power to do many miracles and even raising the dead. They acknowledge the fact that he had no wife nor kid and carried out the will of God the father . Why then do they consider the tyrant Mohammed greater than Jesus. Mohammed who had wives, fought and killed so many and even encouraged more Killing to gain eternal life. I weep for u guys. On ur own, try to discover d truth. For once drop every doubt in ur heart and seek the Truth. Jeusu himself will reveal it to u.
The creation of Jesus to God was like the creation of Adam. Jesus never claimed divinity. He said he healed the blind, raiseed the dead only by God's permission. If Jesus was not subjugated ofcourse he said he was ready to kill. The prophet never killed anyone, he was not a killer. why don't you bring evidences where it is stated that the Prophet Muhammad killed? is that too much to ask? I gave you pictorial evidences for most of my claims. If you believe in the divinity of jesus christ till the point of your death after hearing about the message of Muhammad ( peace be upon him) then you are doomed. That is the hard truth your pastors won't want to tel you. Why don't you think about the millions of westernerss, hundreds of thousand of African christians, millions of people from all around the world who on daily basis accept Islam?
Lanjonath: Lol..that's where you have it wrong. Jesus is the son of God. Read your John 3:16. No one said he gave a go ahead, but there were scriptural scrolls from the prophets during his time of the prophets before him an God's word. And when he ascended to heaven his works were documented and written through the inspiration of the Holy spirit. Blame on him are you blind or can't you read?? What blame? The works of Jesus are complete and without flaw. He was the Son if God and he worshipped the father he wasn't an ordinary messenger, he was the son of God. After he died and was resurrected by God he ascended to sit at Gods right hand. I'm explaining what you don't understand.
Jesus was never the son of God. even he called himself the son of man. He was a man, just like every other man, only that the circumstances of his birth was different. You have to believe in him as a man, a messenger of God and not has a god or son of god. God begets not, nor was he begotten!!!
ibolomo: LOL, that is all I can say. brain washing and blind following at the highest levels is what i see everyday in the islamic community around me. Yes, many Christians follow their "pastors" blindly without regard for the Bible, but many who truly study the bible and not what gets spoon-fed to them by some priests cannot be said to follow blindly. I am sorry to say, but the question asked by the OP is rather silly for a christian who reads his bible and understands to ask. Please don't get me started on this topic as it is a sensitive issue and people tend to go homicidal if their feelings are hurt, God bless you and have a good night.
IN Islam we seek proofs from the Quran and the Sunnah before embarking on an act. In christianity a demented individual could just wake up one day, study the American polls and give a very incorrect prophecy, christians will still follow this individual. several of your pastors come out and talk rubbish in the name of prophecies, yet you guys still flock after them. That is what I call BRAIN WASHING OF THE HIGHEST ORDER.
ibolomo: There are several historical facts that oppose the assertion of the Quran on Jesus' crucifixion. The "correct" account of the Quran that states the trinity of Christians consists of "the father, the son and MARY"? a book that was claimed to have "descended" straight from Allah? Abeegi. Make war of words nor start this night oo. Have a good night abeg
The Quran never mentioned that anything is made up of any trinity. What the Quran said was that those who believe in this trinity thing will face the punishment in the hereafter. Hear the Quran" Say, He is Allah (who is) one. Allah the eternal, the refuge. He neither begets, nor is born. Nor is there to him any equivalent.
Lanjonath: Good so first ill ask you to read Matt.26:52. When Jesus was going to be arrested, Peter drew a sword to defend Jesus. And Jesus rebuked him, healed the injured soldier and followed them peacefully.
Back to your question, the problem is your reading that verse without understanding it. You are who we speak about in Matt 13:13. Jesus is talking about him not bringing peace but truth. He is here to preach the word and will if God to lost sheep and those who believe and follow him will be rebuked and persecuted, even within their own families. That's basically what it means. People will go through hardship, will be persecuted and tortured for following him.
And you should also ask yourself this, where in the bible did Jesus ever condone violence??
The bible was never compiled during the time of jesus. Those who wrote the bible gave different varying accounts. some books of the bible even have anonymous author. Jesus never ever ever gave a go ahead for anything called the bible. He is innocent. he was a messenger of Allah, he was a worshipper. don't heap the blame of the bible on him. Those accounts are wrong btw. The Quran gave the correct account
Lanjonath: Oga your twisted muslim mind won't understand so ill break it down for you. That was the old testament and when Jesus"the only way to God, the truth and the light" came to lead us back to God he said love was the ultimate commandment. And we should not retaliate but rather always forgive those who sin against us and turn the other cheek. Even when he was being crucified, Jesus was praying for those who killed him. That's the bible. You read it through not just speak based on one verse. You're who God said"you'll see but not understand"
SO DID THE GOD OF THE BIBLE CHANGE? HE LOVED SHEDDING OF BLOOD IN THE OLD BUT DOESNT LIKE IT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT. DAFT. ALWAYS LOOKING FOR EXCUSES
Lanjonath: A thousand years ago and are criticized for it today. But your Islamic tendency to always do evil wont understand that and will keep making excuses for your terrorist brethren.
Lanjonath: Lol..you and your Islam brethren that claim to understand the Quran but keep killing in allahs name need to use your brains sir. I doubt those terrorist read a different Quran though, just saying
Lanjonath: Islam definitely teaches people to be daft, read through my post and read what i said about the crusaders. Shedding of any blood in the bible is a sin. Jesus told us to turn the other cheek and love all, even our enemies.
If anyone kills an innocent soul . in Islam it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind. That's what Islam teaches. use your brain. that's why u have some
Lanjonath: I said you were providing excuses for it, no offence but does Islam teach you to be daft? I mentioned killings, and you were basically saying " but christians did it first, about 1,000 years ago"
You were trying to justify what the terrorist guy is doing by blaming over 1.6 billion muslims. If Christianity teaches you to be a blind follower that you are. please use some little brain and read what I said. I never for once said the terrorist guy was right. it was you who tried to say so. maybe coz the crusaders did worse though
Investment › Nigerians On Twitter React To The Difficulty In Getting Their Money From MMM by hardballripplez(op): 10:55am On Jan 19, 2017
