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thebosstrevor1:
It is still impossible, the problem about his idea is that it is not in touch with reality.

Go to your village and observe farmers given equal land and number of seeds, one farmer will outdo everyone with lot of yields while the others will do nothing, even if you take the prosperous farmers yeild and divide it among the less prosperous farmers and tell them to restart planting again, the prosperous farmer will still come on top.

The reality is people have different energy, zeal and ability.

Even if you give 5 people equal amounts of money to save, 3 or 4 people among them will squander theirs and be broke.

There are lot of families with less children but they are still poor

you are making a lot of sense and i agree with you, but you are also missing the point. the point is not to make everyone rich, the point is to ensure everyone can take care of their basic needs. in ability to cater for ones basic needs is poverty.

XXXXTENTACION:
It can be ended but then you have to realize we are not all born equal some are born into poverty while some are born into riches some are very lucky while some face disaster after disaster but then even the lowest man can rise above the mountains.....

hmmm.... that is why i am suggesting that poor people should not give birth to children they cannot provide for, every child should come into this world with a fair chance at making it ant at least be guaranteed of food and shelter

XXXXTENTACION:
When did saying the truth become an insult
what the guy said is the truth....
its funny how even the devil qoutes the bible

please ignore that madam and contribute to the topic jare

Image123:
Poverty is a sin problem, not a population problem. There are more angels in Heaven but no poverty there.

hahahahaha!!!!! oh my god! what?! have you been to heaven to know that there are angels there that are living in affluence?

SportsHD:
You might loose your sanity doing that.
There are Numerous blood sacrifices involved. You might even have to copulate with a ghost. Sleep in a cemetery for like 7 nights straight.
You'll have to use grinded human parts to bath, eat some human parts etc.
It's gruelling.

you are going too far... basic charms have not work, why should you believe the more complicated ones would work? as for the Sars officers using a counter to the selina people like Ikonso use, it is proof that even Nigerian Profs are delusional. trust me if Juju works, there is no shame in it, The United States would have departments that specialize in the study and use of Juju. gun powder was invented by the Chinese but the whole world uses it today. same thing would apply to stuff juju, we would all find way of using it at least to some extent.

thebosstrevor1:
It is impossible

All men aren't equal, they have different abilities and talents.

Another reality is because of some people ability, they will have more than the other.

do you think Bill Gates is right that is we cut the world population enough, we can actually solve social problems such as poverty? i think it is a possibility. we can have a world where some people are very rich but at least we can also have a world where no one is too poor to take care of their fundamental needs is people would just stop giving birth to children they cannot care for.

donbenie:
It's not a distraction..
You claimed Nigeria BRIBED to qualify..
And am telling you..
Nigeria qualified because Tunisia FAILED to win their match..
SIMPLE..
The Kenyans claim can boil down to malice..
They got beaten at home..
What better way to change the narrative,than to claim the match was rigged?
They have a vested interest in making their claim..

you are just all over the place with your argument.
This Wilson guy has recorded conversations with Harambee stars players and he met Nigerian Officials to fix the qualification. he had no influence over the Tunisian game so his only choice was to motivate their opponents. now i am not going to focus on that Match but i would focus on the fact that Kenyan players received money to lose and there is evidence for that. it was not a 100% fool-proof plan, but it is enough that Kenyan players received money and instructions to lose. so forget about the Tunisian match you keep rambling about, did kenyan players recieve money and instruction to lose? yes or No?

donbenie:
Offering $100000 for a team to beat another is NOT illegal..
THAT is MOTIVATION..
What is ILLEGAL is collecting money to LOSE..
Like I said,all Tunisia had to do was to win their match..
And they would have been home and dry..
They LOST..
Whether their opponents got given a million,to beat them,is INCONSEQUENTIAL..

exactly, it is not illegal, but it is part of the scheme. bankers are daily robbing people using perfectly legal means. that is how the society works. what was Wilsons business with the Tunisian game? well, not to be distracted, the Kenyans already admit to taking money to lose to Nigeria and that already proves the case of match fixing to qualify Nigeria, you bringing Tunisia into the discuss is just a distraction

Please note this thread is not for everyone and you are not obligated to comment if you are not going to stay on topic.


I have thought about this several times and wondered why as supposedly intelligent animals, we are unable to get our act together and eradicate issues such as poverty.

so i came up with several factors i think are the problem.

so let us imagine we can all start afresh and give everyone the same amount of money around the world, would this solve the problem?
for one, money aint a real thing, money is just like a contract or should i say a receipt that is guaranteeing that product and services can be provided at the issuance of the receipt and that that receipt was earned by provision of product and services.
this means even if we all have the same amount of money, we would get separated based on products and services we can provide and exchange, hence we would soon fine the smarter people in society collecting the money in the hands of others and soon, we are back to the problem of having poor people.

in my opinion, poor people deserve to be poor, they cannot be helped and should not be pitied.

what is your take?

donbenie:
Nobody fixed Nigeria's World Cup qualification..
Nigeria qualified because Tunisia were unable to win their match..
Had they won..
We would have been out.
Simple..
All these unproven allegations by the Western media is RUBBISH!

not rubbish. i have examined the claims and the kenyan team also have come forward and clean on Raj's involvement. do you know raj Offered $100,000 to the team that beat tunisia?

Idamond:
how can I get in contact with those that are yet to be caught

lol! for real you are looking for them? do you have $100,000? just kidding. what i am saying is, it is almost impossible for you except you are in the "circle" those that fix matches are risking imprisonment so you would almost never find them online and they are not even looking for customers to start with they already have they clients that bet big money so forget it.
this is just to show Nigerians how pathetic it is to take football serious

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Meet Wilson Raj Perumal, the man that was responsible for Nigeria qualifying for the 2010 Fifa World Cup and who helped the South African Government in fixing Many World Cup matches.
Wilson Raj Perumal is the most famous Match fixer ever caught. Meaning there are many like him that are yet to be caught and these men have destroyed the beautiful game of football.

in an interview, he confesses that football is no longer a sport but a business. while many fans are passionate about the teams they support, the big guys behind the scenes do not care about the sport, they are busy cashing in.

On February 19, 2015, Al Jazeera English aired an investigative report called "killing the Ball",[16] produced by Invisible Dog, in which Wilson Raj Perumal described how he ferried the Nigerian national football team to the 2010 FIFA World Cup in South Africa by rigging their qualification match against Kenya, played on November 14, 2009, in Nairobi. The report 'Killing the Ball' was a finalist of the British Journalism Awards 2015.

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this lead to FIFA handing a life-ban on Coach Samson SiaSia in 2019


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeibqML3t-8



if you wish to watch more and see how corrupt the world of football has become then watch the 58min video below

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4lLZ7fgoMU

in the above video you see the heads of the Ghanian Football Association selling out their National team for match fixing business


Exclusive Interview with Wilson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uENL0ifcyKw


lesson here is to stop taking football very seriously because it is no longer a sport.
Also a lesson for those who think matches are not fixed.

If you are addicted to gambling, please quit because you are wasting your time trying to predict the out come of matches
and very importantly too, ignore those claiming to sell fixed matches. fixed matches are NEVER SOLD ONLINE.
everyone is out to get your money, dont be a fool

SportsHD:
Charms are real. Juju is real. But, like everything in this earth, it has limits.

If you notice, some federal sars officers have a red tape around their magazine or a red cloth tied round the nozzle of their gun.

This is to counter the juju the people they're chasing have.

Ikonso was selina tested. I.e he was bulletproof in juju sense. But, the officers that went after him knew. So, they also fortified themselves and their guns. That's was how they killed him. Even with his juju bulletproof vest on.

Come to Port Harcourt, delta, cross river.
Selina business thrive. Babalawos are making money. Because of the cult activities.
Most of the guns these cult people use are shoguns or guns that use cartridge.
But, still on still, they still get thrown overboarded.
What does that say?
Juju is real but, it has limits.

Science is superior to juju.

so what about juju that can make you turn into an animal or just disappear? it would be better to spend my money on juju that would make me turn into a fly than selina nonsense. so why aint people doing that?

Nukilia:
Europeans really dealt with Africans! They used religion as a conduit for
1. Manipulation
2. Theft
3. Mind control

unfortunately Africans are just going to school and are not getting educated, hence why we still have people who fail to sit, think, analyse what they believe and reevaluate their beliefs

beylinko02:
God keep revealing himself to us in different ways and through different means all through the ages. 2600years ago no be beans, I just smh for those who don't believe in the truth of the Bible. Open your heart and in it you will find eternal truth that will save your soul.

how does this prove anything. we all know there were temples in those regions in the given time period, it in no way proves anything from the bible of god for that matter. it is just like finding a an ancient shine here in africa, it does not prove that the gods are real, it only proves that there where shines at that period.

MrColdsweat:
Instead of sitting in your self-contain, why not walk into a shrine and test the efficiency of juju by yourself?

if anyone has an alternative argument and can disprove all i have said above, please go ahead and present your argument concisely. i am willing to learn, as for if i have done any research out side the internet, well, yes. babalawos and their lots only use gimmicks to fool their customers, the charms aint real . they also try to scare you, make their shines very scary so you dont ask questions. they have nothing to offer. by the way i dont live in a self contain, i sleep under the bridge at ikeja.

fredwill1357:
Longest time hard mirror.

hey! whats popping.

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Some years back I created a thread to discuss the possibilities for countries like Nigeria that has a majority population that still believe the spiritual controls the physical, hence our pandering to Juju and religion.

Back in the days when i was very active in the christian circle, I believed very much in the potency of the spiritual, in fact i thought it to be the most powerful dimension of reality and worthy of all my attention and dedication. this remains the reality of many people despite their education most especially in 3rd world societies, not to say this is not the reality of 1st world societies too. We would find people who would rather fantasize than come to terms with our brick and mortal reality.

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[b]For those of use who have lived in Osun and Oyo state before, we have heard incredible stories of the Ife and Modakeke war which was fought using "juju", the stories are very incredible infact these stories must be the reason our security forces fear Igboho so much until they began to realize he is not as powerful as he claims.
we heard stories of people disappearing at will, using eggs as bombs, people who could face a whole squadron firing at them and laughing as if they where just being tickled with feathers, we heard stories of guns spurting water instead of bullets when soldiers came face to face with these men. but do you know why these stories seemed credible, there where no mobile phones back then to take pictures and videos. so where are all these powers now? Ife Modakeke war is barely 20 years ago, how come we cannot fine those eggs that were able to blow up a whole building anymore, how come the guns of our soldiers are not spurting water hen they fire at igboho's men anymore?[/b]

DOES JUJU WORK?
You can already guess my position on this topic, but i would rather go back to my days of believing in the spiritual and agree with you folks that juju works and from this perspective we can look into this and draw our conclusions.

WHAT DOES AFRICAN TRADITIONAL RELIGION HAVE TO OFFER?[/B]
well a lot! to mention a few, i would focus on what ATR has to offer that could have been of advantage to believers like Igboho and Ikonso.

1. [b]Iko.
Iko in the Yoruba ATR enables the wearer to know the thoughts of people around him, you are able to tell if people around you are betrayers.

2. Kanako.
with Kanako, you can cover 100km in just 2mins walking on foot.

3. Odeshi/Okugbe.
Now this is the most popular one. This charm comes in different forms.

the Traditional Bulletpoof vest was brought back to popularity by Sunday Igboho and Ikonso
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Does it Work?

yes it works!

sure you are surprised i say it works, but i am an honest person and only if approach issues with honesty would we find the truth we seek

just like the Kevlar and ceramic composite bullet-proof vests used by law enforcement in developed countries, this vest works by the same principle.
it can stop a limited range of fire power. all things bullet proof has their limits even an amoured tank can be destroyed by certain types of ammunition such as a Rail-gun Tungsten Ammunition.

If you get this vest, the baba would test the vest with a local pistol which is a very low velocity weapon and would be unable to penetrate this vest. you go home believing you are protected.

this vests are made of leather and infused with iron nugget. the leather works just the way Kevlar works, it stretches to distribute the impact while the iron nuggets take the bullets shear force using it's high tensile strength.

this is where the science ends,

because after this stage, the other solutions provided by baba are just based on gimmicks no different from that of a magician.

below is a video of a Tanzanian soldier that fired an AK47 riffle right into his mouth and spat the bullet out... or did he?

please watch the video first then i tell you how he did it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-LKH3mXyPQ

so you can see this soldier fired a real riffle into his mouth and the cartridge is real. so how is it that he was not hurt.
it was all trick and a very obvious one for anyone who know how guns and bullets work.

he only fired a blank, the cartridge he used had no bullet in it. how do i know? cos of the puff and lack of recoil when he fired the gun. if the gun had a bullet in it,the gun would have recoiled because of newtons law of motion. when you fire a gun, the force of the bullet moving forward pushes the gun backwards. this force alone is capable of removing his teeth even if the bullet did not harm him. also the force of the bullet hitting his mouth would push his head back even if the bullet did not penetrate his mouth.

Note that at the 3rd attempt he actually got hurt, but this is not due to the bullet but the hot high velocity gas discharge from the gun hitting his cheek. yes even blanks can hurt even though they are very unlikely to kill you
so why is it that only the pistol hurt him? simple, the riffles did not hurt him because the long barrel give the gas discharge from the blanks enough space and time to slow down before getting to his mouth while the pistol has a shorter barrel meaning the gas does not have enough time to slow down and cool off before getting into contact with his mouth.

hence it was all a gimmick.

4. Ofe.
So when the Military invaded sunday Igboho's house, they could not find him. did he use Ofe? Ofe is a charm that enable the use to disappear at will or when in danger.
If sunday Igboho was really in that house which i presume to be the case, then it looks likely that he actually disappeared when the military men invaded his home.

a more plausible explanation though is they just could not find him.
here are factors you must consider.

1. the house is very big with many many rooms and places to hide.
2. he had enough time to execute his escape protocol before they breached his house.
the military men where in a hurry and had to give up after searching for a while.

i believe there where "False Walls" in sunday igboho's house where he hide until the military left.
the next day, you could see the volume of activities in his house which enabled him escape. the area was not concealed and this shows how incompetent our DSS are unfortunately. instead they took cats from his house thinking he turned into a cat.
this is exactly why i preach that it is stupidity to believe in all these spiritual nonsense because they would only make you live in delusion. if the team where unbelievers just like me, they would have sealed the house off and smoked him out of his hiding place using scientific methods not capturing cats.


but what if it is true that sunday igboho disappeared? well if the man had the ability to disappear and cannot put that power to good use like teleporting himself into dss offices just to scare them and make them respect him (this tactic is called Show-of Force) so they know he has the capability to eliminate them anytime he chooses, then it shows he is a stupid fellow, except of course he cannot teleport which actual is the case.

CONCLUSION
IF SUNDAY IGBOHO OR IKONSO HAD JUST THIS 4 POWERS AVAILABLE TO THEM, THE RESULT AND NEWS WE WOULD BE READING TODAY WOULD BE MUCH MORE DIFFERENT.

I HOPE WE NIGERIANS CAN MOVE BEYOND BELIEVING THESE GIMMICKS

Fuckjesusandgod:
Lol......
Hardmirror, glad you're fine.
Like they always say "opportunities no dey finish", don't let that experience get you weary. Will read about you in Forbes some day.
Blessings bro.

bro you have to live smart. you cant use "fuckjesusandgod" as your moniker and advertise with that same moniker... you grab?

NewSoul:
what if it's God that didn't make this life changing deal come to fruition. If you were a Christian maybe your spirit of discernment to make the right move will have come in handy.

HARDMIRROR, Have you ever sat down and wonder what if I was still a Christian?.... maybe you could have been a billionaire by now. I saw on one of your threads where you also complained of a business deal gone wrong. Is God not trying to get your attention? Is he not subtly sending a message that without him you can't get rich?

I don't know you. I have never seen you (though you posted your pic in one of your threads but you removed it) but I don't know why mind is always on you. I stumbled on your thread because I was looking for answers. I had questions about Christianity burning in my heart. I had always questioned things as a young boy then. My mum then was always the one I was throwing questions at and most of them she couldn't answer. For example, one day I saw a crippled beggar begging for arms and I asked "what is this man's sin?" "Why did God make him this way" her answer was "God is God, he's an unquestionable God" I was pissed. I was like why should God not be questioned is he a tyrant or a dictator. She gave an unsatisfactory answer.
Another one that baffled me was a lady that came to my mum she had eye problem, my mum is amongst all these church mother's that use to pray, speak in tongues and cast and bind. So I guess the lady had faith that a prayer from mum will heal her sight, the lady came mum prayed on water and gave lady I was expecting an instant healing but nothing happened.

Honestly all my life I have earnestly seeked God but I didn't ear him talk to me (only the normal still voice in my mind which is suppose to be the Holy Spirit I guess) but the general over seer of the church I use to attend said you should be able to hear God audibly speak like you are talking to somebody in a room. But till today I haven't, maybe I haven't gotten to that level.

so I started researching and I found you. I said yes! This is it I became an atheist lol. The first week as an atheist was cool and fun, I felt free, I felt liberated BUT all the bad habits I had dropped as a Christian started crawling back and soon the excited of atheism started to wane off. I started feeling bad and guilty as in no more joy. Started feeling like a "lab rat" of satan so after like a month I had to go and beg God to take me back even if I no longer go to church and a pray like before.

I opened this thread because I am concerned about you. I see my life in you, your willingness to help, your zeal for humanity, selflessness. You are suppose to be at that stage where many scholarships for less privileged students will be taken care of by you, orphans are given a better a chance at life courtesy of you, the hungry never go to bed without food, and the unemployed given jobs and the money keeps pouring in. God will not come down to do all these. It is you he will use abi.

Finally, why did you go into bad habits when you became an atheist? Why did you start engaging in things you wouldn't even come close to when you were a Christian. I saw in a thread where you said you lost 5 million to gambling in sports why? Ehn? I saw in another thread of yours where you were saying masturbation is ok and porn is ok too? and now you lost a good friend here because of dishonesty. All these bad habits would be far away from you if you had still been walking with God don't you think? Don't you think it's time to make a U turn?

I was looking for you so that you can help me from my delusion. Now I'm preaching to you . Balance no life. I thank God you're Hale and hearty. Welcome

lol! yeah, i am a "bad" guy, but i'm never dishonest. i did not lose because of dishonesty per se, i am a risk taker. that aside, porn and masturbation aint bad things. go figure. i would choose being an atheist over deceiving myself as a christian believing in a made up god.
you dont have to be an atheist like myself, you can be honest, you can choose not to masturbate and watch porn, you can choose not to be a gambler, these "bad" habits dont come with atheism... you grab?.

Lynette2cute:
Hardmirror, it's been a while since we communicated. Hope you're fine? Please reply once you see this mention.

hello dear. i see you finally left benue. i will be in touch . fredopareto is not harmirror

CaptainMitch:
You can't remember disturbing my phone all day claiming that your son Ayo was sick I had to grudgingly send you 4500 the last time because of how you kept pestering me.

why you should never send money to these girls. see how she reacted. smh. you just cant help them. sometimes you want to take your time and study them so you can help them properly, but they just want to collect the small change and go. they dont think long term

CaptainMitch:
You are on my whatsapp and I recall sending money to you the only time you asked, I wonder why you had to go this way.

my brother i am concerned too. surprised to see her doing this

Ayinke93:
MoonToken. It has done over 300% since I entered day before yesterday and it’s still very new

so you into crypto trading too?

Ayinke93:
I want to believe everyone getting into these coins know the risk involved. I feel many of you are talking like this because you didn't get in early. I was able to make my losses from last weekend on Binance from these shitcoins, taking my profit immediately as I go. So tell me what sin is there to pay from? y'all are beginning to sound like broken records at this point.

rotf

NewSoul:
Is this suppose to be a coincidence or what? Hardmirror! I was just going through your debut thread again and some of your other thread and I saw a mention. Alas! Hardmirror !!

lol. i wanted to post a new topic, but then i saw my mentions had racked up and was going through them. i would have to leave my new topic for another day

Deicide:
Na pride na in day make people commit suicide.

as ridiculous as this seems, you are actually right, pride is a factor. the Japanese hold the record for suicides and they are very proud (not arrogant though). i realized that i am also proud and would rather commit suicide than go though some situations. people i know to have committed suicide also showed signs of pride too. having a high sense of dignity actually contributes to suicide for real

glad to see this thread is still active

LordReed:
Not sure I should divulge that but it doesn't really matter since you are here now and making amends.

ok thnks

Lynette2cute:
Hi

my dear you are taking a very wrong direction in life, but i wish you all the best. you dont need men to be able to make it. Men dont have two heads, if men can make it, you as a lady can make it. it is time to really think of a way forward not all these dating and meet up nonsense. hope you are good sha

paulGrundy:
If that was the case, he won't have come to nairaland embittered and disgruntled.

that is the way you wish to see it, fine.

lordreed, i am really curious.