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Oktoberfest:
The world was created in 7days,Moses parted the red sea,Jesus was born to a virgin, walked on water,died and rose again in 3days....where is d proof??again i say u dont have 2believe that old lie u do not see...its a free world

Yeah, pretend as if it does not matter after realizing how stupid ur belief is. They say a man that makes gest of himself cannot be made gest of. So that is the strategy many people use in embarrassing situations. You listing the stupidity of your religion yourself.

dalaman:
All religions are like that. Islam is worse when it comes to that.

True, but Christianity I know and christianity I will be specific on

hopefulLandlord:
That would be Yahweh sending himself to die on a cross so he could forgive us for him creating us with the sin that he needs to forgive us from, so that he can save us all from the hell that he created as punishment for the sin that he created us with. Right? Makes perfect sense. What a perfectly reasonable, sensible plan.

It saddens me to hear stories of people who hang on to their faith in the misguided belief that they need to do so in order to placate an angry ancient Hebrew god of war.

That is the gist

skeendyke:
If a Christian answers those questions of particular interest to you, would the Christian's answer make a believer out of you? Would it make you believe God exists? Would it make you quit your fun sport of poking holes in the Christian faith?

The answer to those questions you highlighted will be nothing more but an attempt in futility, a colossal waste of explanation. I wish you luck in your God-hating adventure.

Is this an attempt to avoid giving a cock and bull answer?
If you have a reasonable answer, why not present it with confidence and leave the holy spirit to do the rest?

marvelife:
secondly, what are the rules and norms guiding atheist against inhumanity(sin)?

Customs and Constitution of the society we find ourselves

sirfee:
I'm a free thinker but I believe in God,I think both of you(Christians and Atheists)are taking these issues too personal.

It is very important. Imagine if christians are unchecked.

sirfee:
I swear down,I'm also following#Christians vs Atheists(season 215)

Thank GOD for atheists.

marvelife:
@hardmirror.... why the attack is always on Christians alone ?

Muslims have their fair share of attacks already, traditional worshipers are well persecuted. So the "saintly" pretentious christians are left.

eph12:
Imagine there was no Christianity what do you think would have been different?

A lot wld be different.
I would be having speakers of church blaring all around me this morning for example. Just kidding.
But a lot would be different both negatively and positively.

anetuno:
Because you need faith to see black and call it blue.

Hehehehe

Christianity was only a tool to conquer the world. It is the religion of submission, a religion of total sheepishness.

Problem is many christians don't know ANYTHING about the history and spread of Christianity. From the Romans, to the British empire. A means to get conquered nations to be meek and sheepish. It was never about salvation, it has always been about bondage

Oktoberfest:
Exactly why u have the freewill...u dont have 2believe,wisdom 2God is foolishness 2d world

That old lie that makes christians see foolishness in their belief but carry on in the foolishness chanting "the ways of god is foolishness to the wise"

This makes boko haram, Sango worshipers and the rest wise too. Their ways only look foolish to you christians, but it is wisdom from their gods

Kondomatic:
Hardmirror: Jesus is myth.

Yes

Seun: Not everything written in the Bible is false.

He is very right. The best lies are always mixed with lots of truth that are generally agreeable

Zuckerberg: There was a time I asked those questions but I have realized that religion is good.

Absolutely, he is right. I also have come to realize that religion is good. Religion has key roles to play in politics and human control which is very important. It is important to have people living in fear of an imaginary god some where. It is important to keep people in check by making them believe a god that can punish them
is always watching them. This way you can always get majority of humanity to be predictable and abide by the roles.

Seun is getting closer to where Mark is while hardmirror is wandering directionlessly in the wilderness with no map, no gps.

I hope he finds his way.

We will all get there, when we begin to realize the gains of keeping people deluded and egging them on so we can reap the benefits. I am sure many pastors are atheists. They are using christianity to their advantage. While they sleep with church members and collect all the money they can.

brandonobi:
this is getting out of hand, how necessary is it to prove all these

It is seriously out of hand already. Take a moment and imagine you today are worshiping a tree because a convincing story was told to you about how the tree came to save the world... Now you know what we see and why see speak out.

John 3:16 "for God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him shall not perish but have everlasting life

This is the most popular bible verse and perhaps one of the most popular quotes in the world.

Now we are so busy bleating out this quote, we get carried away and fail to see the fault in logic of the quote.

this very quote made me a christian, this very quote made me dump christianity

Here is a flaw you never noticed perhaps.

1. So God loved the world: the bible did not say he loved Jerusalem. The bible did not say he loved the Middle-east. He loved Africa, loved Asia, Loved Australia, Loved south America, loved Europe, loved North America. God loved all the people living in remote Islands.
This is soooo good to know

the question is, then why did Jesus die in Jerusalem?

Wait... You probably don't understand yet.

According to christianity, the coming and death of Jesus is the most important event EVER in the entire Human History.

You probably still don't get it. I understand the brainwash is that strong.

So God loved the WHOLE world and he gave Jesus for the world. Then in his stupidity wisdom asked men to spread the most important message ever! A message that would save every man, woman and child from eternal damnation, eternal torment, eternal doom. This wise and loving God did not know it would take over 1000years for the message of Jesus to reach America through the Europeans.
What about every tribe in africa? Asia? Europe? Australia? North korea? How long did it take before they even heard of the existence of a man/myth called Jesus?


How many people would have died within that space of time?

So all those people are damned?


If you say no, god would judge them differently, then why spread the story of Jesus at all?

The only reason for this is because the myth of Jesus christ is only a myth created by the romans to put the jews under control. The jews know this and that is why they rejected the story.

pocohantas:
Seun what's your problem with MMM?
What are we supposed to comment on this one? All our comments done finish for MMM matter.

Of all businesses and enterprises, Nigerians are so brain dead they could find none to do, but turned mmm to a business. The way you people defend mmm shows how hopeless the youths of this country are.

Lennycool:
Don't humans drink cow and goat milk?
Are we the same specie?
People can be so stupid.
I know of a case where two male fowls were fighting and the dominant one climbed on the back of the other, the landlord of the yard said it was an abomination and demanded both fowls be killed even though non were his, they belonged to two of his tenants and were the only thing they bought for Christmas. The hypocritical part is that the landlord later ate both of them even though it was contaminated meat according to him.

Ebuka will tell u theists have higher IQs. This is ironically evident in our daily interactions with them.

Bigcake:
My dear if you are a lover of animals or you rare them, you are bound to see strange things... I had a particular cat who always quenched her thirst throat by sucking my dog's breast.
These two creatures were always together curddling themselves as if there were of the same specie.

At a time i couldnt tolerate their excesses, I had to kill them both.. Of course, not in my time will i see Sodom and Gomora....Lol

I love pets alot, because by having them around you can never be bored...

You are worse than the good animals you killed.

The only offense of your dog is breast feeding a cat, but you killed them both. I am sure you killed them with clubs or something terrible.

Stop lying, you killed them because of ur highly religious mind and to top up your hypocrisy you claim to be a Pet lover.

Image123:
When a christian says "God", you know he's referring to Jehovah. Stop being childish and mischievous.
Also timing is very important.If you come to work on time, it's fine and can even earn you commendation. If you come to work 3hrs late, it is not fine. Same action, but can earn you a query or worse. If you come after closing hours, you are suspect. If even a bishop or priest or pastor does what Moses did now, even God will condemn him. How hard is that to see? Ecclesiastes 3:1

Your analogy is off. Going to work is a good thing. So someone coming late to work is only wrong by being late. Killing is not comparable to going to work. It is like you saying moses killed early and shekau is killing late. Both remain murders.

AntiWailer:
The question should be.

Who will be dumb to pay ?

If you are wise. When my friend YMODULUS described how he made millions last year.

You will not see MMM as one of his investment options.

Use your brains.


Nothing wise about Me paying into somebody's account and hoping another person pays into my account.

I will rather use it to Help people I might never set my eyes on which trust me I did last year.

There are lots of business that would make mmm look like a fools scheme and indeed that is what it is. It is for lazy, greedy fools.

annunaki2:
When shekau performs the miracles moses did, you can come back and ask your silly questions or draw comparisons.

What miracle?

Ohhhh!!!! You mean the Jewish stories right?
Ever heard the words "MYTHS and LEGENDS"?

Read about the greek gods and see the miracles they also supposedly performed, read about yoruba heroes and gods and warriors and see the miracles and wonders they performed. Oh! You thought the bible owns the monopoly to such "Tales of wonders"?
Wake up from your sleep. Every culture and religion has tales of wonders and miracles from their own gods, you don't believe them, I wonder why you believe moses.

As for shekau, he would tell you the many miracles Allah has done in his life and in their quest. He would recount the many victories Allah has given them. He would tell you how Allah has confused the federal government from Gej to Buhari. He will tell you the mighty works of his God that has made his group so successful the are the 2nd most dangerous terror group in the world. You think Shekau's achievements are not a miracle?

Wake up

And don't you dare tell me you don't believe his miracles cause if you believe the bible that said he committed acts of violence, then you must believe the same bible that said he performed miracles.

Heheheh, I dare tell you I don't believe in his "miracles"
"History" from that era is not only full of gore and horror with total disregard for human lives, that is besides all the supernatural bullcrap that accentuates the writings and stories of that era, it is also characterized by exaggerations, fabrication and propaganda. Not just for the Zionist movements gains, but the quest for each group to prove superiority; the necessity for such tall tales is obvious

randomperson:
They did equally barbaric acts, they both claimed they were under orders from god... On what's basis are u believing one and disbelieving the other? Your bias?

His bias is so obvious.
He just believes moses but does not believe shekau (boko haram) while both claim they are acting under God's instruction

hobermener:
Bitcoin na mmm junior brother

You obviously don't know anything about crypto-currencies. Bitcoin is not anything like mmm. It is a crypto currency. Google and learn. Mmm is a ponzi scheme. Bitcoin is a digital currency just like money you can have in google wallet, paypal even your money in the bank is digital and exchangeable for paper money, same with bitcoin. Do you know their are bitcoin ATM's?

ScienceWatch:
When we examine HARDMIRROR's misplaced anger at his muscular dad, we find that as an atheist HARDMIRROR readily accept the destructive beliefs of other famous atheists, But when his own dad believes that it is a good plan the rape of his own 2 yr old grandchild. HARDMIRROR refuse to accept that his dad is exercising freedom of choice.

Just look at some of the cruel beliefs of atheism's founding fathers ;

Sigmund Freud – During his insanity, He believed women wanted sex with their fathers and womens stories of rape and molestation were fantasies. Instead of victims these women were the villains.( shocking)

Sigmund Freud was the founding father of psychoanalysis, a method for treating a mental illness and also a theory which explains human behaviour. Freud believed a female is a failed boy.

He was obsessed with the sexual conquest of his mother and rivalry with his dad. The desire to have sex with his mother and kill his father haunted his dreams. He believed women wanted sex with there fathers and stories of rape and molestation were fantasies. Instead of victims these women were villains.

Now we can understand why atheists believe, that it is the woman's fault when she is raped.

You are not making an iota of sense. what is Sigmund's relationship with the OP?

God the supposed ALL LOVING Father stands by and allows THOUSANDS/MILLIONS of Rape every year, with many of the victims being children that are totally helpless, yet God does not help them.
Sciencewatch I know you want to defend ur God by all means but please use your brain and argue with honesty.

urheme:
As i said, i'm a christian and killing is prohibited......i will never belief the God i serve permitted one to kill another....those people are barbarians...and that is how they leave...in their era it was a state of nature and no rules applied...except the rules of the strong......they oppressed and conquered.....minority groups......that was how they exercise their powers.....i don't for once believe God ask them to kill steal and destroy...wether the Bible said so or not

Ok, a new brand of christian. How more confused can you folks be

urheme:
instruction to kill steal and destroy is definitely from the devil.....my views......are you happy now

Ok, so, david, moses, joshua, samson..., all worked under the instruction of the devil.
Thanks for this new information

Image123:
I'm not their judge, believing is not judging, is it?

Did moses receive instructions from God? Yes or No Did shekau receive instructions from God? Yes or No.
Give reasons for your answer. Simple

Image123:
i'll tell you what should be simple enough for you to understand if satan is not merciless on you. God's will is clearly found in the Scriptures and contradicts boko haram's. They may be doing some other god or thing's will(which they themselves are not agreed on) but certainly not God's will.

So u believe moses heard from god but u don't believe Boko haram hear from god? What makes you their judge.

Moreoffaith:
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Wetin I sabi

ilynem:
Following the actions of "Nigerian Christians" isn't Christianity. Following Christ is Christianity. If u can't fault Jesus teaches, you can't fault Christianity. How is loving your God and loving your neighbor as yourself bad for the society?

Pls point me to where you addressed the op, I am interested in what you have to say about the topic. Thank you

Love Machine:
No.Those people over there are akagum.Plus they can track fraudster immediately.

So no fraudsters in UK? *smiles*

dalaman:
You posted a story of a nameless individual that visited a nameless lab and got healed of hepatitis and diabetes.

How are we sure you didn't make the story up. After all your friend here is known for making up stories to promote christianity. He said he once raised a nameless person back to life from the dead. When pressed he said he doesn't want to divulge much information because it's a private matter. You guys are known for telling lies always to.promote your religion. How can we just believe stories that have no verifiable entities?

You get their drift