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RoadsAndGreen:
oh you finally answered. good

psychologically, i gave a simple test. you didnt say you were close. i only wanted to be sure you are getting my mentions, so i gave you a easy target just to make sure you win a point.

thanks now i am sure you are.

now if you are going to still attack me base on that, note, am irreligious and i speak against them. just in case you think you have busted "another lying christian"

And why shld I believe you? Are you trying to retrace your step?

RoadsAndGreen:


Now he is not close to the brother. ohlala. Trying to distant himself bit by bit. we will be here till you cast your self

Show me where I claimed to be close to him.

truthhurts2well:
Who were the 3 people who told you/ Were they ASF people or CACCF people? For them to have told you this means they know you well and you cannot say you do not recollect at least one of these 3 people.

So can you answer my questions?

They are all Asfites.

No I can't answer your questions (imagine, mtchew)

Smallville10:
did d man die at d camp ground or not... If yes, how many persons can u say, were certain he died and they saw his body... How far did d news of death go

These are details I can't give cos I can't recall. But when I heard the news, the school was in session. About 3 people told me this, don't forget I was not close to the brother.

SirWere:
Dude; your whole reputation is at stake here.

You HAVE to give names; back ups. Refrences.

You HAVE to answer their questions firmly and resoundingly.

I suggest you open a new thread; and lay rest to all these assumptions.

I realize it might be because you don't want to expose yourself to everyone. The internet is a scary place afterall and no one knows one fanatic from another.

But you have put in so much stories, plugged in so much details; that they have to be backed by solid, unwavering evidence.

Of course, you might be playing a game though; if that........












The current stats show that you're losing ;(

Pls what trophy are we competing for?

You are not me. If I choose to go further I will. You can choose to doubt me till then. It is ok by me.

truthhurts2well:
It surprises me that Seun would place a ban on damogul in the face of how important he is to this thread as the OP and he is asking questions from those who did not carry out any investigation.

Jesus!!!
Damogul carried out investigations?
Biko tell me about it.
So reposting what was originally in hopefullandlord's thread is what you call investigation?
Pls get serious

mrmrmister:
You're enjoying it?
You really do not care about your reputation?
Okay

Pls did I mention a school that is not in nigeria? Or is asf dead?
How hard is this really?
Even the so called child of the Dr. I mentioned showed up to claim the man I mentioned is his dad, why are they not presenting their other findings? Are they scared?
Lol
I know what I am doing and I know their motives.
Bunch of liars

SirWere:
Indeed??

They were so infrequent that since the month of April till now; a 6 MONTH interval; they didn't branch to the religious section

I mean; really

HardMirror; arrange your evidences and facts and drop them please.

Otherwise, STFU and publicy apologize.

I disdain long threads.

This is already on page 7 and no constructive thing has been said.

What evidences again?
If you are confused, that is your problem. If you can see, then you can piece it all together.

mrmrmister:
The unnecessary arguements
Let's just get it over with

It's 2 parts for me, one is I really don't want to put effort in calling old acquaintances just because of this.
Secondly I am enjoying how they keep second guessing and blowing things out of proportion cos they have nothing else to hold on to

mrmrmister:
Then contact those who gave you the information and get his name This is getting too much.

Hehehe What is getting too much?

paulGrundy:
What we are saying is that I owned up to my mistake and edited my quote to give the correct accout as soon as you pointed that out. But you are not doing so? Why?

I am not because I am sure about the information I gave. I know for sure abt his death, I know I was informed he died of ulcer and the talk was that it was due to his lifestyle of fasting. I know that till date I had always associated him with caccf.

paulGrundy:
I think the investigation should also be put to the front-page to make it seem nairaland is unbiased EXCEPT Hardmirror owns up to mistake and creates another mini-version thread on that account.

Paul, let's be honest with ourselves here. Do you folks really want the truth?

Just look at the claim below
Look at the accusations without any footing your folks put up. Are you really after the truth?

analice107:
Before the close of today, You'll see proof that Hardmirror never attended that school and was never in the Fellowship he claimed. Just stick around.


Like i said before, any claims comes with investigation.

Why do you think he is declining to mention the name?

truthhurts2well:
Gosh!

Seun what do you call public investigation? Hardmirror discredited himself with his own mouth. Did you not read the email he sent to Howmon? He clearly said he could not remember the name plus talked about human memory error.

So what exactly does he remember if he could not remember this brothers name but could "conveniently" remember other things then who is fooling who?

Seun what are you even saying?

Hardmirror endorsed the original thread opened by hopefullandlord or did you not get that part of the gist? He urged for his story to be discredited and now we have it and you want to play the part of Lai Mohammed?

Even paulgrundy is claiming his imperfect memory made him say the dead brother was my prayer partner. Lol
So what are we saying?

Seun:
I guess a public investigation isn't going to work. The Christians want to discredit HardMirror at all costs because they think souls are at stake. Anyone who says anything that stands in the way of their goal will be accused of being all sorts of things. So where do we go from here?

Why I insist you don't delete any part of my story. All of a sudden they start claiming I said things which I never did. I was not close to the brother talkless of praying with him, I never said he was an executive. Yes I said he was a caccfite, because that was where I was sure he worshiped. Yes I said he died from ulcer. And I stand by that. Why shld they start adding to what I said if they are not being mischievous?

SalomonKane:
She said so? Link please.

analice107:
Before the close of today, You'll see proof that Hardmirror never attended that school and was never in the Fellowship he claimed. Just stick around.


Like i said before, any claims comes with investigation.

Why do you think he is declining to mention the name?

I have been waiting, yet nothing since yesterday

truthhurts2well:
Do emails lie? Do screenshots lie? I think you need to revisit the email you sent to Howmon and the ones he sent to damogul.

I gather you were given the opportunity to come clean but your pride and arrogance would not let you. Now you talk about a plot to make a narrative favourable to "them"?

Show me where I said he was a fellowship executive. Shameless liar

analice107:
Oh, you sure have no shame.

Do you have shame?
Still waiting for the evidences you promised since yesterday. You said you would prove I never was a student in futa. You specifically said you would do that before yesterday ended. Where is it?

Seun:
In other words, he was a fellowship executive. Noted. Like a judge I know nothing except what has been presented to me.

You see how they are misleading you? Who said he was a fellowship executive? Not me, so who?
This is how they keep adding little bits to the story. Paulgraundy also added his own bit by claiming I said we prayed together which I never did. Smh. You will soon understand why I wished not to continue on this thread. It was carefully designed to make the narrative favorable to them.

Seun:
How can we be sure that the people who said nobody died are right? Could someone have died without their knowledge? If not, why not?

You have mail. Check pls.

paulGrundy:
Corrected. Funny how you singled out that mistake, but can not nip of the bud of a single mistake that will damage the credibility of your telenovela.

Hehehehe. Mistake? That was no mistake. You intentionally slot all the lies in just to discredit me by all means. Lol
Lying for jesus ministries.

I know you guys well, you are not after the truth. No wonder you all keep calling everyone liars.

paulGrundy:
Cc demogal

He initially claimed he knows the person very well, they used to pray together , borrow tenet, friends, has all the evidence to proove someone like that existed. But he won't reveal his name.

Members of that fellowship, said nobody died due to fasting, after being questioned, he said he was not sure, his human memory may have failed him.

Lying for jesus ministries.

YTderin:
It's like the moment you decide to emancipate yourself from the slavery of religion, you have more intuition to ask questions, research, read,....... I mean, you just feel limitless.
I wasted 18years of my life bounded by the shackles of religion.
I don't argue religion with anyone, hold your beliefs and let me hold mine.
If my mom knows how deep I'm into this, she'll just nag herself to a heart attack, we are still having issues with going to church. I just honour her by going to church on Sundays arming myself with a novel or book (in the guise of the bible). Or better still lie about going to a friend's church, and spend my day at the cinema.
Its just sad, I can't just be my actual self, without people thinking you are possessed.
NB: no Christian fanatic, should bother quoting me, especially using the Bible. I don't recognise it as a fact.
Shout out to all agnostics / atheists on the house, see y'all in hell or wherever they think we are going to be damned to, eternally. Me thinks we are going to have fun.
PS: No preaching to me please. I'm irredeemable.

Lol.

jonbellion:
I was rooting for him before I saw that mail

And what is damaging about the mail correspondence?

joyContraMundum:
No qualm. Kindly explain to me WHY, on nairaland, you were claiming to KNOW the name of the deceased brother (only that you weren't gonna give it so as not to dishonour the dead) only to start talking about inaccuracies due to the imperfection of the human memory in your mail to Howmon, telling him that you CAN'T REMEMBER the name....

Show me where I claimed to recall the name. I knew I could get his name, but even if I did know it, I won't post it.

Seun:
What?

Yes I mean it. I am breaking my word just this once. What is the purpose of this thread when the other one is still there?

Seun:
Reported by who exactly?

This is the last reply I will give you on this thread. Any further question shld be directed to me on the original thread created to investigate me.
I got the report from members of my fellowship

Seun:
You should continue your investigation. As you discover his lies, we will delete them and force him to apologize for each lie that's discovered.

HardMirror, what was the source of your claim that the dude in question died from fasting? Did you see his dead body or did someone tell you?

Never saw his dead body, all I know was his fervency, he uses our tent for his programs sometimes (I don't attend anyway), I know he is dead, and it was reported then that it was caused by ulcer probably aggravated from his lifestyle of fasting.

rhektor:
No sir, this is unacceptable as hardmirror himself need to apologize to nairalanders for feeding us with lies, who knows how many lies he has written in the past? He also need to be banned from religion section after apologising to Christians here. Please Oga Seun create a section for the atheists or let us know if Nairaland is meant for Christian haters

This thread is a waste. Hopefullandlord has a thread already on this topic, try and do better than this. You folks keep using the word investigation. Which investigation? Is a chat between me and howmon what you call investigation? What happened to all the other aspects of the story?

Seun:
Which amounts to what? That a throwaway line in HardMirror's story is probably inaccurate? That HardMirror admits that he may have misremembered it? I would be surprised if the story was 100% accurate. No story that is written by a human being is 100% accurate. No testimony given by a human being is 100% accurate. That's why, as atheists, we value hard evidence more than any kind of testimony.

I'm inclined to delete the parts of HardMirror's testimony that have been found to be highly likely to be inaccurate. Is this satisfactory to you?

That would be a wrong move sir. I stand by that section of the story. Yes maybe there is probability that the brother was not a caccfite, but that is the fellowship I remember him with.

mrmrmister:
I just wish you so called christians would pay this much attention to your religion.

I wish you could dedicate this much time investigating your religion and seeking the truth like you're doing now

What investigation? They are only dancing to the charade. Else they would have posted tonnes of findings here. Or what is this thread about?

damogul:
Seun, Mynd44, Lalasticlala this is an exposition of fraud and deviousness of a nairalander and we believe this thread needs to be seen by all for sake of awareness.

Posterity is observing.

*smiles* now he wants front page. Why did you not clamour for hopefullandlord's thread to be pushed to front page?

Seun:
Why do we need a new thread?

It is badly needed because the other one was created by hopefullandlord and damogul aka naijadeyhia likes being at the center of the show.