₦airaland Forum

Ngozi123:
Lmao, 'flopped' by whom? What exactly did they do, in your opinion, to deserve to be brutally murdered en masse? What did those who were slaughtered actually do to their murderers?

I already said that the Jos and Sharia riots were targeted at Christians in general, however, you and I both know that Igbos are synonymous with Christianity in most Northerners' eyes. Stop trying to be pedantic here, most Nigerians know this. Btw, I know that other southerners were murdered in some of them riots as well but the majority of the victims were Igbos. Btw, many Igbos refused to return back to the North but many chose otherwise. There's still a very healthy population of Igbos living in the North today, although more have left due to Boko Haram- are you going to deny this?

Somehow, I just feel this should end. Your points are getting myopic.
When someone kills the other for being a christian and you say its because he is Igbo, that's undisputably myopic and selfish.
Its surprising for someone to conclude that Igbos have a larger population than yorubas in the north .
Please which of the states are closer to the north if I may ask?


You said what did they do to deserve the killing? OK, what level of rage would you feel if someone takes away the most important people in your life? (God forbid)
I guess you haven't studied what led to the civil war .

Ngozi123:
Can't really be bothered to look for sources right now but the various pogroms during and before 1966, including the 1953 Kano riots. The 2010 Jos riots, yes I know that Christians were targeted but most Northerners see an Igbo person and automatically tag that person as a Christian. Also, the riots that took place after the implementation of Sharia Law in the North; again, Christians were targeted but we all know that Igbos are synonymous with Christians in parts of the North. These are just the main ones. Many Igbos have been murdered in cold blood in various parts of the country e.g. Kano state 2012, were four Igbos were killed mercilessly by some locals.

If u were to talk about 1966, even a secondary school student should know that Igbos threw the first punch, but that's a story for another day because I won't want you to get flopped easily.

And when has the killing of Christians turned to killing of Igbos? It will be pathetically bias if you decide to turn a religious war to a tribal war just to justify an invalid point.
Do you know how many westerners lost their lives? do u want to compare the number of Igbos in the north to the number of Yorubas?.
Check your stats well and you will know that a larger percentage of Igbos would never return to the north since the civil war.

Ngozi123:
Just as I had feared, you've turned the discussion to Biafra. I wanted you to explain to me, without mentioning anything about Biafra or any other potential independent state, why remaining in a united Nigeria is the best thing for the Igbos. How exactly does it benefit us? Every time I ask people this question, they always resort to implying that Nigeria is the lesser of two evils and that any independent state will fail because of so and so reasons. One should never have to stay in a country just because they're afraid that they'll fail should they choose to do any different.

As for your last point, well, what can I say? Have you read any Nigerian news in the past 50+ years? Many Igbos have died just for being Igbos, especially in the North.

Since you are against a United Nigeria, may I know the reason why you believe the Igbos should seceede?

Many Igbos have died just for being Igbos, especially in the North.

Please I need a proof of the emboldened culled from a credible source or I'll only have to believe that you want me to believe anything even if its false so I can agree with your point of view.

PS: I made lots of typographical errors in my last comment, my phone was freezing and I had just 1% battery to type and post, but I hope my point was well related.

Ngozi123:
Tbf, I've only really considered the outcome for my people, the Igbos. I certainly believe that we can succeed on our own and build our economy mostly using human capital. We have the intelligence and ingenuity to progress in the technology and engineering industries. As for the other regions, it's pretty obvious that Nigeria has been (barely) surviving on the oil that is generated from the Niger Delta, hence the recent recession coming at a time when oil prices are at an all time low. It's clear that one region is contributing the majority of the country's wealth.

All you said here is simply based on faith and anxiety.
We have decided to survive on oil because we chose to. Oil has been discovered in nigeria since the 50's but we survived without oil until 1971. If at biafra secedes, we would still survive.
I hope you considered feeding when you talked about this ?

I wanted to you explain to me the benefits of staying in Nigeria, not the potential disadvantages of seceding. I asked this as many people's reasons for wanting a united Nigeria is because of 'the fear of the unknown'.

Are u only trying to be sacarstic here? Is leadership not a benefit? Hav u thought about the effect of power tussle? I just gave you an example of Sudan and u decidd to overlook it . I hope you know that right now Biafra isnt having the backings of leaders and kings?. Only Kanu and youth were not born are agitating.

. We've had 50+ years to "build ourselves a more powerful Rome", as you put it, what exactly is different now? If anything the country is becoming more violent, less tolerant and even more volatile. What evidence is there to suggest that things are more likely to improve than not in the near future? Your comparison with New York makes very little sense to me. For starters, the US is an immigrant nation and New York, even more so. Nigeria is country where most people still have a spiritual connection to their land. New York is a city and not a 'nation', unlike the Igbo, Yoruba and Hausa nations. A better comparison would be the people of Lagos choosing to secede on their own but even that's a bit of a stretch.

If it took us 50years collectively to come only this far, don't you think it will take a quarter region his entire life to fail?
What has newyork being a larger state than Nigeria got to do with immigration?
Spiritual connection? Who still talks dis sh*t

must take into account where Ojukwu said this i.e. in the public or private domain. He may have wanted to quell some of the anger that was brimming in some of our youths in order to stop them from doing something they may regret. The phrase "otherwise the dead would have been to no avail" suggests that he's warning them to not do something that would see them killed needlessly. If you want independence then you be clever and patient about it.

Did he call you into closet to debunk the statement or you had to formulate something that will quench your thirst even if it means going against the master's wish.




PS: how has Nigeria been unfair to Biafrans, havre you heard of any report where someone had been laid of work or beaten it killed because he is Igbo?
Kanu is power thirsty , he is fighting to be a president .

ucsparks:
how then do you know this much about her..... Following her upandan abi?

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Funny enoff, u will never find me in romance section, but I remembered checking sm1's dp and I saw Dis pix dere .

ucsparks:
Is this your YANSH?

Picture that was stolen frm twitter .mtcheeew . if u even check dis pix well, u will see Badoo watermark .

This bisexual girl in d pix stays in Lagos but she dey visit Abuja com do bizness ,na im person com use do Dp for nairaland and Una dey mumu Una sef .

Her name is Mary but she don even deactivate her account sef .

Who d f.ck is delectablegal that is using sm1's picture ?

28% budget increase dan 2016 budet

$42.5 per barrel benchmark

I think this time ,our budget is not planned on faith but with realistic figures (realistic budget). unlike when Gej and Okonjo will place benchmark at $58 per barrel and later sell at $30 (budget based on faith)

Let's call a spade a spade

Sai baba till 2019 , but after that .....I can't say o

Na only half body of dead man wey fall ontop am wan break him neck o .
What if na d full body or the main steel trusses fall ontop am ?

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Ngozi123:
I'm assuming that you're an advocate for 'One Nigeria' so I have to ask you and anyone else who shares your stance: why should we stay in One Nigeria? What are the benefits of staying in Nigeria that cannot be garnered elsewhere? I'm not referring in to Biafra btw, just Nigeria.

I'd really like to know your answer to these two questions.

I'm an advocate of "one Nigeria" even in the face of what many see as "tribalistic injustice" .But in the real sense ,its purely a blessing in disguise to every Nigerian tribe.
Have we ever thought about the cost of "survival" of each seceeding faction? The truth is the Nigeria that exists today continues to stand only by the virtue of the contribution from each geopolitical zone - in terms of food, oil, leadership, market and investment.
Since we all know that no zone has all these features at a time, hence, the need to continue to depend on each other as one nation for the main purpose of growth and development.
Take the Old Sudan for example, south Sudan had all the oil to stand on their own , but barely a year after seceeding the tussle for leadership began. Lives were wasted. This is no era of Moses leading the Israelites out of Egypt for over 430years, this is a century where all the rich cabbals wants to be in the position of power to acquire more power.

What are the benefits of staying in Nigeria that cannot be garnered elsewhere?
This is our home!! Why don't we use our collective resources to build ourselves a more powerful Rome instead of building independent huts that won't stand the test of time?
NewYork city is or almost as big as the entire Nigeria but they have stood together with 49 states to make the World power. That is an example of one Nation .
What is the size of Nigeria, how much power do we have collectively even in Africa alone that we have started thinking of sharing it?


PS: Ojukwu said 'I Ied proudly the first, I don’t think a second one is necessary, otherwise the dead would have been to no avail, it would all have been in vain,”

He is telling us that his point had been made , we need no one to remind us again .

vizkiz:
Who your life epp? I just said mine. If you like look up to her like a role model. I don't give half Bleep.

Oboy, goan siddown, no dey carry jokes put for head like dada

vizkiz:
I hate it when people think the way you do. It's called "poverty mentality" Why do you have to look down on yourself because of her situation

Listen bro, Obama never had fame or wealth when he was her age But he became the first American black president. So what the fück?

@Topic... Ella is really an example of what makes people a celebrity and not bìtches like toke makinwa and cossy (the oversized breast mumu)

For your mind , you be motivational speaker

Person age don times three dis girl age yet ordinary ITV or wazobia TV never interview me for street sef .

God is that how they use to do?

Burobanshi! Kai wallahi , to kill boko haram dey hungry me

Bronz:
I went on a date recently with a girl,and when I asked if she will be my girlfriend,she said am too handsome for her to keep as boyfriend

Re u d one on dat dp?

A) A coup plotter that overthrew a legitimate government and also handed over power to a fellow tribe man

Nairaland has created more panic on the MMM issue than any other source .

It is very unfair and immature ,

Besides, MMM hasn't crashed , but why are the mods quick to push anything related to "Mmm crash" to FP . why create unnecessary panic among averagely 60% of nairalanders who are active participants of MMM .
I pray u will be quick to push MMM topics to FP when it comes back by January
Please be wise

The lawyer will be like "what kind of aggressive animal am I defending naw" .

If Seun allows this topic to hit FP, I'll deactivate my account E sure for me ni

lielbree:
My real father is a STWEEPID IDIOTIC BASTARD. MAY HE BURN IN HELL FOR THE HUNGER HE BROUGHT TO OUR FAMILY

Of course

Is it ur money?

2el:
You again....

Do u sabi me from smwhere

TINALETC3:
:

Remove ur hand lemme see urs too

Mikylopez:
chineke God i also want to go to dubai for ma honeymoon .....

See ur bwezz

Who AXE u all dis things?

lielbree:

Bastard president wey bring hunger. MMM come crash for the buhari era. Na die be that for some people

I'll make sure u are banned . it seems u hav no father at home shay?

Mod Lawyer , u wont push educative threads to FP o , but if its a church collapsing, u will be quick to push it .
At least give people a chance to contribute, argue or jucstapose why such occurrence took place and how to avoid it

Be like Nairaland had been hacked that's why useless topics kept hitting front page anyhow

Can't even upload pictures again too

manuell1021:
its not d mata of get mind, its d mata of understanding, d system is not crashing d message dere is just to help it from crashing but allowed d media to get d best of them, during dis December pple will GH more dan pHING, which means d system will nt c d new year, so d best tin is to freeze it.
d best tin nw is to ph which makes sense cos u will not b match and ur money will grow. i just paid 40k 2day.
dere is notin, january is just 3 wiks away, dere re oda platforms dat will only pay after 30 days, so wats d problem here?

Well said , but the panic was just too much that it could lead to untimely ending of the Mmm scheme . The media including Nairaland are not helping matters .
I know Seun has always wished for the downfall of the scheme that's why he kept pushing the Mmm scare news to front page

For wat? . I still see no fraud in what they did .

It should only be called fraud only if after the stipulated 35months, the 12% is not given .

In other news, long live MMM