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OneJ:
Mumu post.

The one who lifts U up to a higher position must definitely be higher than U in rank/status
"Therefore, God (Yahweh) exalted him (Christ) to the highest place" below Yahweh. Phil2:8-10

Yahweh the Father & God who lifted Jesus Christ is always greater than Jesus.
"The Father is greater than I" John 14:28.
"The head of Christ is God",Almighty Yahweh. 1 Cor 11:3

Jesus Christ called Yahweh "my Father and my God" John 20:17.

"The God of Abraham, and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our Forefathers, has glorified his Servant and Son, Jesus" Act 3:13.

Answer the question that is haunting your mumu Trinity doctrine.
The simple question is : Who is the Father and the God of Yahweh ?

They can never give an answer to the question you asked , it is impossible. False doctrines are difficult to defend. Trust me, they will end up telling you the nature of God is a mystery!!! (easiest escape route)
Our own God Jehovah is miraculous!
Theirs is mysterious.

Shelumiel:
Like I said earlier , "just read ". The question I threw at you was one that demands a logical explanation; now give it.

Bros go and rest...you've been floored or better still change topic.
If your father tells you "let's go there"...does it mean your dad is asking for your permission to go?
it is obvious Yahweh wasn't asking for permission.

OneJ:
U said "Adam is a spirit being " Yet at no time did Adam see God face to face. Moses is a spirit being ,yet at no time did Moses see God's face.
Primesky, U be spirit, how many times U done see Angel Gabriel & parley with am ?

U too sabi lie.

Lool

No tithing
No night vigils
No compulsory fasting
They don't go to mountains to pray and many more..

The law of the Christ is indeed a law of freedom. Jesus emphatically told the Jews in his day "You'll know the truth and the truth will set you free"

OneJ:
Thank U for your sophistry. Is birthday celebration part of the footsteps that Jesus your master left for U to follow? 1pet2:21. Abraham, David, Jesus & his apostles & 1st century Christians never did it. So whose example are U copying? 1 Cor11:1.
Secular history revealed that birthdays celebrations are rooted in paganism. So,what fellowship does light have with darkness? 2Cor 6:14-18.
Come to think of it , God's word the Bible portrayed birthdays in a negative way just as drunkenness is negatively portrayed. That's solid proof that God hates celebration of birthdays (Gen40:20, Mark6:21-28. Prov23:20,21,29,30.Isaiah 5:20-22.)
OP, when U pick candy from the refuse dump & change its wrap covering, does it make the candy clean for consumption? God's word condemned any attempt to blend paganism with Christianity. Galatians 4:8-11.
Marriage & wedding anniversaries is OK. God originated marriage Matt19:3-6. Gen2:18-25. Honeymoon began with Adam & Eve. Eccl9:9, Prov5:18, Deut24:5

May you have peace my dear brother!!
Trying to explain basic biblical truths and doctrines to apostates is like drawing water with a basket. You'll hardly achieve anything.

When someone willfully sin or deviates from the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins(Hebrews 10:26,27)
Jesus Christ had so many opportunities to defend himself before Pilate, he remained silent for some reasons. I surely know you understand why he was silent. Jesus also said we should never cast our pearls before swine.(matt. 7:6)

Let them continue their 'good' works, they have many forefathers in the scriptures they can relate with, people such as Hymenaeus, Alexander, and Philetus. (1Ti 1:19, 20. 2Ti 2:16-19). Reading or replying their posts is a sheer waste of time.

achorladey:
You only need to bring it out from the scriptures for me to see as it is stated explicitly. I will be willing and ready to answer True or False.
Are other religious denominations not part of the Jws community Christians? Yes/No

All i can say is that you are not being sincere..

You are just like a smoker who is asking where it is plainy written in the bible that smoking is a sin

Riofidelio:
He's carrying everything on his head as if there is nobody to whom he must be subjected amongst mortals like himself, whereas when those ones come to him in uniforms he'll be shivering and start following orders but he despises those who follows orders that's based on mutual agreement and trust! Please join me in saying "thank you" to Jehovah.Who gave him rules the he must brush his teeth, wash his clothes, put on clothes and shoes, comb his hair, live in houses,write applications for jobs, speak in foreign language and so on? Are all of these not human settings? Why must he follow such if he's not ready to allow others used his brains for him? It's just getting along with others globally under an organized setting that's wrong! Walahi being disfellowshiped is very very close to madness. Romans 1:18-22

Anger, bitterness and frustration is written all over him, he can no longer think clearly like a normal human..
For him to jumps start, all you need to do is to mention the name 'Jehovah'...anyone can give it a trial

May i never leave Jehovah and His people.

Hairyrapunzel:
No be only disfellowshipped. See what your founding fathers had to say about disfellowshipping

"We are not of those who disfellowship Christian brethren on account of some differences of opinion; but when it comes to the point of denying the very foundation of all christianity we must speak out and withstand all such to the face, for they become the enemies of the cross of Christ." Watchtower 1882 Dec p.423


The administration of discipline is not the function of the elders only, but of the entire Church. Thus it is evident that the Elders were in no sense to be judges of the members-hearing and judgment were left to the local body, or Church. Indeed, even if the transgressor refuse to hear (obey) the decision of the entire Church, no punishment is to be inflicted or even attempted. What then? Merely the Church is to withdraw from him its fellowship and any and all signs or manifestations of brotherhood. Thenceforth the offender is to be treated "as a heathen man and a publican." Matt. 18:17" Studies Series VI - The New Creation (1904) pp.289, 290

"The Scriptural basis of fellowship and disfellowship is both a much broader and a much more simple one. It is simply of two parts: (1) An acceptance of Christ as the Redeemer, and (2) A full consecration to him. Whoever complies with this scriptural formula is entitled to the love, respect, sympathy and care of every other such one; for such, and such only, constitute the church which God recognizes - the church whose names are written in heaven." Watchtower 1905 p.3673


"According to this Scripture the very most that the church could do would be that, after having vainly endeavored to get the brother to repent and reform, it should withdraw special brotherly fellowship from him until such time as he would express willingness thereafter to do right. Then he should be received again into full fellowship.


In the meantime the brother may merely be treated in the kindly, courteous way in which it would be proper for us to treat any publican or Gentile, withholding the special rights or privileges or greetings or voting opportunities that belong to the church as a class separate from the world." Watchtower 1919 Mar 1 p.69


Wow such a revelation.

DISFELLOWSHIPED...Lool

Hairyrapunzel:
He asked a question answer it and stop fooling around.

DISFELLOWSHIPED!!!

achorladey:
haywizzy007:You agreed with the fact that God has been organizing people right from the onset...

Achorladey: God is not a God of disorder

haywizzy007: The way in which people are organized is called what?

Achorladey: Which one do you prefer
JEHOVAH'S ORGANISATION or ORGANISATION.
You make me laugh at your level of comprehension.

haywizzy007: Is God still organizing people in our day? YES OR No?

Achorladey: The God I serve does not vary or change like shifting shadows. James 1:17 The organisation you subscribed to admits they err or make mistakes in doctrinal matters and organisational direction. Watchtower study edition February 2017 fourth article paragraph 12. You wouldnt want to associate the God we serve with such an organisation.

Achorladey: Do your God made mistakes and error when organizing people. YES or NO.

Very good! The God we serve does not change like shifting shadows, which means He still has an organization of people for pure Worship..True or False?

achorladey:
haywizzy007.Matt. 7:21,22 should answer your question..

Achorladey: I answered your question directly but in your quest of trying to judge and make separations you are trying to deflect. You will rather prefer to call them "FALSE CHRISTIANS" than say they are in simple plain terms "CHRISTIANS"


haywizzy007: Jehovah's witnesses practice what they preach, this is one of the things that separates them from many self proclaimed Christian denominations,
they are not hypocritical.

Achorladey: surface conformity or outward appearance of the JWs does not reflect what they really are. This is where hypocrisy starts from....... the Jws urged ........

Persons of the public to keep an open minded approach towards the Watch Tower literature even though it challenges their present religious beliefs.

but what about the Jehovah's Witnesses themselves? They are urged not to exchange or immediately destroy literature that is critical of their beliefs.........HYPOCRISY


haywizzy007: You don't believe in the Godhead, which is one of the core doctrines of your brothers and sisters under the umbrella of faith called "Christians".


Achorladey: Other numerous religious denominations too do not believe in the Concept JEHOVAH'S ORGANISATION which is one of the core doctrines of the JWs which you believe falls under the umbrella of faith called CHRISTIANS

haywizzy007. Do they even view you as Christian? ion think so You don't have to fight it,

Achorladey: Do they(other religious organization) even view you as Christian? I dont think so. You dont have to fight it as well

haywizzy007: God has an organization,

Achorladey: There is no where such "ORGANISATION" is explicitly stated in the scriptures serving as means of salvation.

haywizzy007: he has been organizing His people right from the onset.

Achorladey: God is not a God of disorder.

haywizzy007: God's faithful worshippers
are organized in heaven, having the same sets of beliefs.

Achorladey: christians can do so likewise it is the denominations they all subscribe to that is bringing division.

haywizzy007: You don't expect the earth to be different. Satan is the architect of confusing doctrines, Jehovah's worshippers will always have the same sets of beliefs.

Achorladey: do you agree then that when the Governing Body admit errors in doctrinal matter and organization direction they are subscribing to satan ploy as well?

You agreed with the fact that God has been organizing people right from the onset...The way in which people are organized is called what?

Is God still organizing people in our day? YES OR No?

achorladey:
haywizzy007: There are thousands of religious denomination in the world, from the deep study of God's word, i know they can't all be true (Matt 7:21)

Achorladey: That is if what Matthew 7:21 states is directed towards religious denominations and not to Christians as individuals. But you are yet to answer my question asked earlier. Are other religious denominations apart from the Jws Christians?

haywizzy007: Do you believe in the Trinity?

Achorladey : Nope!!! The term itself is no where stated explicitly in the Bible.
Do you believe in the term "Jehovah's organisation".

Matt. 7:21,22 should answer your question..
Jehovah's witnesses practice what they preach, this is one of the things that separates them from many self proclaimed Christian denominations, they are not hypocritical.

You don't believe in the Godhead, which is one of the core doctrines of your brothers and sisters under the umbrella of faith called "Christians".

Do they even view you as Christian? ion think so

You don't have to fight it, God has an organization, he has been organizing His people right from the onset. God's faithful worshippers are organized in heaven, having the same sets of beliefs. You don't expect the earth to be different. Satan is the architect of confusing doctrines, Jehovah's worshippers will always have the same sets of beliefs.

achorladey:
Yes I do.
Do you view other religious denominations/organisation as Christians?

There are thousands of religious denomination in the world, from the deep study of God's word, i know they can't all be true (Matt 7:21)


Do you believe in the Trinity?

achorladey:
haywizzy007: Don't get me wrong, being in Jehovah's organization is not an automatic ticket for salvation,

Achorladey: Jesus never said, the apostles as well never said that being in an organisation is a criteria or ticket for salvation or everlasting life John 3:16, John 14:6, Acts 10:34, 35 Romans 10:13

haywizzy007: there was even a Judas among Jesus' apostles. it is not automatic, but very crucial

Achorladey: Judas didn't exercise faith and continually follow his master. He rather choose to follow "Jehovah's organisation" the Israel organisation lead by its King and the priest in order to betray the chief agent and perfecter of faith "Jesus christ".
The concept "organisation" is developed by man not scripturally backed.

haywizzy007: imagine a faithful Israelite back then heard moses instruction and then decided to go through a different route not wanting to join the thousands crossing the Red sea...what do you think would happen?

Achorladey: That individual will suffer the consequence despite it would seem the instruction is given to them as a group it meant for them as individual and to be adhered to individually.

haywizzy007: The race for life is personal,

Achorladey: AGREED

haywizzy007:buh all over the world millions of brothers and sisters are united in this race..

Achorladey: brothers and sisters under the umbrella "Christians" that should be united as Christians not divided into denominations/organisations

haywizzy007:it is either you are in or out, you can't sit on the fence..

Achorladey: Being in or out tells me one has to subscribe to the organization you advocate or not subscribe to such organisation but John 14:6, John 3:16 James 1:26,27 Matthew 22:37-39 Matthew 5:43-48 tells me anyone following through on all of these is on that way leading to life. All these need not an organization to teach or the need to follow/join an organisation to practice them. They are perfectly captured in 2 Timothy 3:16,17, the bible is enough for any and every man to be completely equipped to do the good work of the Lord.

To begin with, do you view Jehovah's witnesses as Christians??

OneJ:
Haywizzy 007: Hairy what ever is an obsessed & deluded bigot who is very dishonest to himself. In a previous post on this same thread he could not refute Acts 2:44. 15:22,23
. He was disfellowshipped & turned apostate. Anger,resentment & bitterness are the drive force behind the series of lies, distortion & half truths he dishes out on NL. Him problem no get cure until he humbles himself b4 Jehovah the Most High God.

wow! thanks for the info

achorladey:
haywizzy007: You need to wake up from your slumber sir,

Achorladey: I believe you can do so with convincing evidence backed up by the scriptures.
haywizzy007: looking at the precedents in the Bible, you will discover our great God does not deliver or save in isolation.

Achorladey: That is if you know what Isolation really means.

haywizzy007: You need to examine the case of Noah and his family. Can you honestly tell me everyone was bad or wicked during the period Noah lived??

Achorladey: I am not a reader of heart to decide that. But from the Bible account I can say Genesis 7:1 After that Jehovah said to Noah "Go into the ark you and all your household, because you are the one I have found to be righteous before me among this generation.

haywizzy007:Being in that ark was the only means of salvation. doesn't count whether you are good or bad!

Achorladey: Agreed!!! The ark was indeed the means God used to save Noah and his family but do not forget easily the recent study of the Watchtower article March 2018. The ark is not an organisation, Noah is not the head of God's organisation on earth back then. The ark symbolises the fact that Noah individually ''did all what Jehovah commanded him to do". 1 Peter 3:20,21 which corresponds to our own baptism today. We must be ready to do what the law of christ he ask us to do individually no one will carry our load for us. No organisation can legislate on that.
Genesis 7:1God called Noah "righteous". This your good or bad palaver it is left for you to decide I can't say anything categorical on that.

haywizzy007: let's examine the event also at the Red sea..Did God deliver the Israelites individually or as a group? Some Egyptians even joined them and they were granted salvation.

Achorladey: All of them got delivered individually because they heed the instructions given to them via Moses individually if they fail to heed such instructions as individuals thinking "they are "Isrealites" in their mind and that God will understand" they will of course suffer the many calamities that befell the Egyptian despite being Israelites. The Egyptian that got saved did so individually as well.


haywizzy007: Before Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 C.E, you remember Jesus Christ passed a warning to the Christians living back then..how did Jesus pass the warning? individual or group basis?

Achorladey: Jesus gave that warning to his disciples back then Matthew 24:1-3. They weren't known as Christians yet. It will seems the instructions go to them as a group yet it must be acted upon by all of them as individuals. In fact it must be received individually.


God has been organizing His people from time immemorial. it is impossible to serve God in isolation and be expecting salvation. You must serve Him along with His people. Heb. 10:24,25

God is indeed God of order not of disorderliness right from everlasting to everlasting all of these can be felt in the things created. Our salvation is not based in any organisation or denominations. It is based on John 3:16, John 14:6. We are all encouraged to work it out on our own Phillipians 2:12
Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
You cannot obey the law of the christ in Isolation.
JWs want to see themselves as being isolated from others yet we are to do good to all those related to us in faith. Those related to us in faith is it restricted to Jws alone?

Don't get me wrong, being in Jehovah's organization is not an automatic ticket for salvation, there was even a Judas among Jesus' apostles. it is not automatic, buh very crucial

imagine a faithful Israelite back then heard moses instruction and then decided to go through a different route not wanting to join the thousands crossing the Red sea...what do you think would happen?

The race for life is personal, buh all over the world millions of brothers and sisters are united in this race..it is either you are in or out, you can't sit on the fence..

Hairyrapunzel:
Where in the Bible did God say he has an organization? Mention a passage. I am waiting.

Stop being ridiculous, it is like you asking me to show you the word 'bible' in the holy scriptures..
Did God organize people in the past? YES OR NO? Has God changed? YES OR NO?

Rev. 18:4.. And I heard another voice out of heaven say: “Get out of her, MY PEOPLE, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues

what is the meaning of 'my people' in the verse above? disorganization?...lol

Hairyrapunzel:
Organizing people doesn't mean the people joined an organization/a corporation/a publishing company. All the destruction in the Bible never lead to eternal life. So many verses in the Bible point to faith in Jesus and grace of God being the means by which we would get salvation. I don't know where you guys picked up being organized or serving God in an organized way will guarantee you salvation.

Lool...just listen to yourself, organizing people doesn't mean God has an organization, you are on a long thing bro...God has not changed, he doesn't cherry pick people for salvation. He has always been organizing and teaching His people to do His will.

achorladey:
It will be better if you take time out to seek out Hairyrapunzel perspective on all of these. Why it seems his comment seems like one attacking the JWs. It might seem so in some cases yet he is picking out issues that should be addressed or you try and convince him on some of his disagreement concerning the things he believed about the JWs.


You are still young in the organization, that I can say by the way you address and respond to issues raised so far. Take your time to ground yourself more spiritually.

'there's more to this than meets the eye' it is a situation not as simple as it seems to be.


In fulfilling the law of the christ as you might have learnt recently, I believe there will be constant conflict between an individual who is under a religious denomination to fulfill the law of the christ.


The laws, creed, decrees, judicial decisions,
condemnation of that religious denomination you subscribe too will not allow you to fulfill the law of the christ.

One of such law all religious denomination subscribing to be christians are struggling to fulfil is Galatians 6:10.


One only need to read Galatians 6 to see the inadequacies of the religious denominations.

But dont forget Gal 6:5 we are to carry our own load. No religious denomination or organization will do that for us.

Galatians 6:5 was never written or addressed to religious organization. It was to all christians as individuals.

You need to wake up from your slumber sir, looking at the precedents in the Bible, you will discover our great God does not deliver or save in isolation. You need to examine the case of Noah and his family. Can you honestly tell me everyone was bad or wicked during the period Noah lived?? Being in that ark was the only means of salvation. doesn't count whether you are good or bad!

let's examine the event also at the Red sea..Did God deliver the Israelites individually or as a group? Some Egyptians even joined them and they were granted salvation.

Before Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 C.E, you remember Jesus Christ passed a warning to the Christians living back then..how did Jesus pass the warning? individual or group basis?

God has been organizing His people from time immemorial. it is impossible to serve God in isolation and be expecting salvation. You must serve Him along with His people. Heb. 10:24,25

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Riofidelio:
Well i've discovered that you're only trying hard to disapprove pure worship that's what rendered your senses obstinate but please i'm begging you do not render your conscience dead because that's what will make you close your minds to the TRUTH leading to the UNFORGIVABLE sin! Matthew 12:31,32 If there couldn't be disorderliness in heaven please what could have led to WAR in HEAVEN? and why was it written "rejoice you heavens" after Satan has been sent away with his demons? Revelations 12:7,12

i can honestly say you've done your best to help these people know the truth from God's word. Remember Jesus' word at matt.7:6..its obvious they just wanna take you for a ride. i'm sure you know the reasons why Jesus didn't always reply those questioning him.

OP, i love your writer up, it is quite impressive

salvation101:
eeya. E pain u very well shay? Na so truth dey be. It sometimes makes you mad and gnash your teeth. Check out on this thread, i started the conversation on a calm note and ur jw brother kept calling me "oponu Olodo".. I gave him ample time to apologize he maintained that ur Bible supports Jesus insulting, i av not even insulted yet and u are enraged

ok you won!
Thanks for your time.

salvation101:
u see the cun and deceit i was talking about earlier. Same u lots inherited from ur founder... U came cunningly using the same method Satan used in the garden of eden but guess wat? U couldn't deceive me. I have several threads on this forum and non has been about my denomination cos there is no denomination in heaven. I am a part of the body of Christ and thats wat is important to me. Unlike u folks who peddle ur false religion as d real deal yet u use materials u got from same ppl u raise dusts against. No amount of insults deter me. U only prove to the world dat ur so called pure worship or religion has no effect on ur life

You are fond of using abusive speech, it is clear to everyone that ur so called religion is having profound impact on you.

You are a sworn enemy of the witnesses, your hate doesn't change anything. We'll keep looking for those rightly disposed for everlasting life. Having a conversation with you is a sheer waste of time. we love you and we will continue to pray for people like you to have a change of heart. Thanks for the time and insults. Pls do not quote me anymore.

salvation101:
yep. I know ur a jw member as evident in ur past posts, so don't even think u can deceive moi. Ur brother here has been asking same question since last year and he is tired of asking already sef.

There must be a very good reason why you gets cold feet whenever you are asked about the church you attend...are you ashamed of the church you attend?

You should be bold enough to recommend your church to others, so that new ones can also learn not to be 'counter scriptural'

Abi nah isolation ministry u dey attend? :-D

salvation101:
salvation101

Is this the answer to my question?

salvation101:
u won't b missed. U can take ur jw messages to jw forum nd blogs, but as long as you decide to still bring dem here on a public forum, u would get replies. Dis is not a jw blog. Muslim or catholics, anyone involved in anything counter scriptural would definitely not be on same page with me

I want to be on the same page with you, pls wah church do you attend?

Peacefullove:




And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling - Jude 1 vs 6

Who are the angels that left their dwelling place according to the Bible verse ?

Now the world will know how deluded it is to defend a lie .

Peacefullove:




And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling - Jude 1 vs 6

Who are the angels that left their dwelling place according to the Bible verse ?

Now the world will know how deluded it is to defend a lie .

Crushing blow

Hairyrapunzel:
Jesus witnessed about himself

John 8:18
"I am He who testifies about Myself, and the Father who sent Me testifies about Me."

John 5:36
"But the testimony which I have is greater than the testimony of John; for the works which the Father has given Me to accomplish the very works that I do testify about Me, that the Father has sent Me.


John 10:25
Jesus answered them, "I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father's name, these testify of Me.



I said Jesus said the Father witnesses about Him.


Revelation 1:5

5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.

where is the name of the person Jesus Christ is witnessing about in these passages you quoted?

Sir i agree with you that Jehovah bore witness about Jesus Christ, notably during his baptism..

Buh do you also agree that Jesus did the witnessing work given to him by his father(Jehovah) according to John 5:36?

Hairyrapunzel:
Did they say the person who Jesus Christ was the faithful and true witness of?

Jesus Christ witnessed about Himself, john the Baptist witnessed about Him, Jesus said the Father will witness about Him, Christians are witnesses of Jesus
What I know is that in the bible Israelites were called witnesses of Jehovah. Christians were called witnesses of Jesus.

I didn't see any mention of any person whom Jesus was the faithful and true witness of in the Bible. So I can't answer your question.

The Bible said the Amen was the faithful and true witness, and ruler of God's creation.

You can ask from here to Jericho. The Bible is clear.
Israelites were addressed as witnesses of Jehovah. Christians were called witnesses of Jesus. I am a witness of Jesus Christ. Do you have a problem with that?

Hairyrapunzel:
Did they say the person who Jesus Christ was the faithful and true witness of?

Jesus Christ witnessed about Himself, john the Baptist witnessed about Him, Jesus said the Father will witness about Him, Christians are witnesses of Jesus
What I know is that in the bible Israelites were called witnesses of Jehovah. Christians were called witnesses of Jesus.

I didn't see any mention of any person whom Jesus was the faithful and true witness of in the Bible. So I can't answer your question.

The Bible said the Amen was the faithful and true witness, and ruler of God's creation.

You can ask from here to Jericho. The Bible is clear.
Israelites were addressed as witnesses of Jehovah. Christians were called witnesses of Jesus. I am a witness of Jesus Christ. Do you have a problem with that?

Hairyrapunzel:
Did they say the person who Jesus Christ was the faithful and true witness of?

Jesus Christ witnessed about Himself, john the Baptist witnessed about Him, Jesus said the Father will witness about Him, Christians are witnesses of Jesus
What I know is that in the bible Israelites were called witnesses of Jehovah. Christians were called witnesses of Jesus.

I didn't see any mention of any person whom Jesus was the faithful and true witness of in the Bible. So I can't answer your question.

The Bible said the Amen was the faithful and true witness, and ruler of God's creation.

You can ask from here to Jericho. The Bible is clear.
Israelites were addressed as witnesses of Jehovah. Christians were called witnesses of Jesus. I am a witness of Jesus Christ. Do you have a problem with that?

Sir, you are just being economical with the truth, maybe you don't fully understand the meaning of the word 'witness'. You can't be a witness in your own case, you either bear a witness about someone or an event. When Jesus walked the earth, he bore witness about the truth found in God's word. You can't change the truths found in God's word, Jesus Christ is a Jehovah's witness.(Rev. 1:5) and we are happy to be followers of Christ, when you bear witness about the father(Jehovah), you automatically bear witness about the son. John 3:16
You mentioned in your post that the father said he would bear witness about Jesus, i will appreciate it if you can establish that using the scriptures. Thank you.