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talented321:
I just dey imagine what is going through his mind at this dying minute.

Real dying minute

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chukel:
Lies again. Nothing like 1st class in medicine. Absolutely nothingnlike that

I just weak as I see am.
'First Class in Medicine?'

Maybe things are different in Russia sha...

meolaniyi:
I can't imagine that! Who are the judges. Yoruba winning Igbo in an academic competition? An aberration. Under free and fair completion. A Yoruba team can never, ever, win an Igbo team in anything competition

Yes, Igbos are the only people with brains in the Country.

Other tribes, particularly the Yorubas are only good at selling agbo.

Gajagojo:
You lack wisdom

You are washing bottoms
Keep quiet

🤣

Yes I am, happy?

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Gajagojo:
You think because you have been washing bottoms in different hospitals you are now an expert on the NHS?
You are the one that manufactured the term
Top specialist

I don't have to have any numbers
Presumably you went to school and did elementary logic
He who asserts must prove
The onus is on you I don't have to disprove anything

If you come out and say a UFO landed in your garden last night it would be stupid to ask me to prove that did not happen when I ask you to prove it did

You talk now like a fool asking me to travel and expose myself?
Do you know where I am?

I am.just not immature like you talking foolishly about my biography

There is no need to talk about stupid surveys when the Generall medical council already have the information
Parliament have the information and it is not secret

That data has been collected,analysed regularly and studies published as far back as 2001

So yes there is data about where every doctor in the UK practising today got their first degree and what they are doing now
What is not there is

Top specialist
because it has no meaning

You just made that up

Wash bottoms?

Who is this Cow?
🤣

I have a very respecrable job oga.
Very respectable!

By God's grace, I have done well for myself.
(and I will do more)

Yes you need to see the World as you are very crude!

...and you don't know jack.
Getting disjointed things off the internet wouldn't help that.

I made my words up?

Hahaha.

Rest oga.

What I said, is what many Doctors have noticed and said too.

There are about 10k Nigerian Doctors in the UK, so if they have noticed a trend and talk about it, it should ve true.

You can keep on digging for Data.

Better still, look up the Vascular Surgerons, Interventional Radiologists, Ophthalmologists, Orthopaedic Surgeons... and determine their ethnicity.

I should bring you data?

Should I also bring you data to show that most corner-shops are owned by them too.

Or you wouldn't argue that too, if you don't get 'data?'

...and what is the big deal, if I mention the industry I work in on a faceless forum.


People do it here, do it on Quora, on Reddit, without people getting triggered?

What is hard in saying, 'I am a lawyer, or work in banking, or I am an ex-soldier?'

How is that offensive in your disturbed world?

Except you have something else biting you.

Nobody doing something reasonable with his life, gets triggered so easily.
Something is wrong somewhere, but hey this Nairaland and we can all pretend.

I will leave it here... this is a fruitless venture.

Have a nice day at work, school, or whatever you do.

Gajagojo:
You made a claim that

Most of the top specialists in the
UK Are Indian

So you must have the following

1. How many tops specialists are there in the UK
2. How many are Indians
3. A source

If you don't have This then you are talking nonsense


The only evidence you have is your biographical claims

...and what numbers do you have to dispute this?
The ones you thought-up in your unhappy sitting-room?

Your rants are silly.

When you do a survey, will you use the total number of individuals in say a country or a sample size.

Or if they say 5% of Nigerians have HIV, it means 200 million Nigerians were tested and only 10million of them had the Virus.

You go school so?

Or you think there is a document saying top specialists in the UK and their origin?

Is it not something you will see for yourself when you are in the system.

Be reasonable oga.

Better still, travel and expose yourself.

You know what, na me cause am.

I should have ignored your frustrated rants to start with.
Whatever you believe is fine...

It does not take anything away from these people.

Gajagojo:
Any blockhead can pull out baseless data from their ass and try to pass them off as reality.

Claims need a source and data to have meaning

Whether you call it top or juicy
That is a construct that has meaning only to you
Even at that you still need numbers and a source
Not your personal conviction

And you have those Numbers from Nigeria?

Top specialty only has meaning to me?

Guy!
Stop embarassing yourself.

Specialties have competition ratios, by that you know the top ones.

Neurosurgery would have a higher ratio than say Family Medicine.

Do you understand?
Or you still don't?

If you don't, I can't help you.

Gajagojo:
I can use stupid or any other word if I like

Did I call YOU stupid?You

The issue is the claim that

MOST specialist doctors in the UK are Indian

That is a lie

So telling us you work in the UK as if that will somehow make it true is not sensible
This is a very well researched subject even by Parliament with plenty of information in the public domain.
You are too anxious to talk about yourself.

That is what is unnecessary

Can you read at all?

I said 'top' specialists

Why are you so triggered?
Who offended you.

If I say a few unidentifiable things about my self, have I commited a crime?

Would you have been annoyed if I said I was a cleaner?

So, back to what I was saying...

Specialties are incomparable and everyone knows it
(Or maybe you don't).

In the UK, the top specialties, the hardest ones to do and get into are filled by Drs of Indian origin.


That reality will still stare me in the face tomorrow.

They are everywhere and doing very well for themselves.

If you don't agree, it is fine.

Happy?

Gajagojo:
Insult?

Whndid I insult?
Where?
How?

Well, if you read what you wrote again, you will see that.

There is no use hurling words like stupid.

So...

Whatever rocks your boat...

Rishi Sunak is still Prime Minister sha.

Gajagojo:
Any idiot can come online to claim anything
This is an anonymous forum

Your claim that you work in The UK is stupid because it is. IRRELEVANT

The fact of the matter is. Indian specialist are not MOST in the UK that is a dirty lie


The second thing is yes there are a large number of Indian specialists in the UK

Almost all of them had specialist postgrad training in the UK
SO. There is nothing to credit India with there except the fact that they have a large number of medical schools and churn out more doctors that most countries which like Nigeria they struggle to retain because of poor pay

So you find they do PLAB,USMLE ETC more than anyone else so quit telling us bullshit about India

They are just a bigger version of NIgeria

How many countries in the world still see leprosy? India is one of them

Alaye, you don't need to be triggered.

Why have you resorted to insults?
Am I the cause of your frustrations?
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The hardest Specialties here-- top Specialties, usually have Drs of Indian origin.
( counting the countries that split from them also)

That is how it has now become, because Oyinbo no wan wahala himself again.

If you read my post and not just jumped to conclusion you would have noted I said 'top.'

I have worked in many Hospitals, so I know whatsup.

Check the Consultant lists for the juiciest specialties e.g. Surgery, Orthopaedics, Ophthalmology, Radiology, Vascular Surgery, Cardiology, Gastro etc. in most Hospitals; you will see their names there.

If is not them, it would be an older white Dr, as the younger ones don't want to stress themselves anymore.

If you choose to argue otherwise, I will leave you to your folly.

...and it will be quite silly to say you cannot credit India for the successes of their Children abroad.

Do they stop being Indian, because they left their countries?

Do the Jews stop being Jews or the Nigerians stop being Nigerians.

They are like a cult here, reason they have done well for themselves-- and they don't discard their values.

They will marry Indian spouses and raise more indian kids.

Besides India is supposed to be the 5th largest economy in the world and you think some people would not have cornered healthcare.

Or why are Nigerians running there for the unafordable western healthcare?

Your point on Leprosy is baseless.

China also has horrible cases of communicable diseases, but does that discredit everything else about them.


Tell you what, a Nigerian Doctor in the US recently donated 1M dollars to UCH.

Would he do that, if he felt they didnt contribute to his training?

...and I will repeat, some foreign trained Doctors go back home-- to India, Nigeria or wherever.

...and they are earning big bucks.

Gajagojo:
I just addressed the claims
Most specialist in the UK are not from India and almost all did specialist training in the UK even those with MBBS from India

There is nothing special about India just their huge population
This means more medical schools and more doctors
They export a lot of doctors because pay is poor in India just like Nigeria
So do not hype India to us

The information his publicly available . Indian doctor to back home? What for to visit or to relocate?

Well, you miss the point...

1. I work in healthcare in the UK, so I should know where most of the 'top' specialists come from.

2. If the do Specialist training in the UK, some of them will go back home to train Doctors there.

3. There is a reason they have big Private Hospitals like Fortis and Apollo.
(I believe Fortis is even the major shareholder in Lagoon Hospitals-- the best performing Nigerian Hospital)

I also believe their Prime Minister had a heart procedure done there, some years ago.

If it was not good, he would have been flown abroad.

4. There is nothing special about India?

Yet their child is UK prime minister and they have become stakeholders in major institutions abroad?

Dey there!
🤣

...and yes, some of their Specialists go back.

The same way some Nigerian Specialists have come back home.

Gajagojo:
Most of the top specialists in the UK are not Indians
Yes a good number are but not most.


The other thing is
Their specialist training happened in the UK not India. They are. UK trained specialists

It all comes down to numbers they have a population of over 1 billion
There is nothing special I am happening in Indian healthcare
Their indices are not much better than Nigeria's
If India was that great they won't be leaving in such large numbers

You work in Healthcare in the UK or what?

...and do you think those that trained in the UK don't go back home?

How do you think their healthcare developed?

I know a few people who finished their Residency and went back to India.

So...

pol23:
Since everyone want to leave the country… Nigeria professional wants to practice abroad too.

(thanks to our parent and their colleagues who spoil the country…. I know you might assume your dad’s not involved since he’s no politician, guess what our dad told their arms and watch the country turn into jungle)


Also, Every country needed Doctors and nurses…

Here in Nigeria , we have over 30 million people between age 18-25, most who’re students.

I will advise Nigeria to start grooming medical practitioners for the world…
It will be a win win situation.
Nigerians living abroad remitted 19.8 billion dollars back home in 2022…

Can you imagine what the country would’ve been without this people popping money to the economy, while our politicians are busy sending money out.

If we send like 1000,000 doctors to Europe, America, Middle East and Australia …. I want to believe this will help the economy….

So government should invest heavily in training many doctors , pharmacists, nurses and lab technicians…
I might be wrong though, but I believe I’d we start by exporting brain , by 2050 we will have big professionals handling our economy and running businesses here back home.

The Indians do this, reason they can perfom cutting-edge procedures locally.

Most of the top Specialists in the UK are Indians-- they have gone far!!!!

It is almost the same in the US too.

When more of our Children get first class education, it will benefit us in the end.

Even if only 1% come back to establish something, it will be a plus.

Not to talk of the forex they will send home

amdoyin82:
If this had happened in Lagos, the blame would have been shifted to Yoruba, APC and ALL

Because Yoruba and APC have refused us our right to develop them

Bilingualism:
My compatriots has gone to Seychelles to go and show themselves. When will my brothers and sisters change. Odiagwu

Seychelles has refused to be developed!

No problem, we will continue to develop the South-waste...

They must be developed by force!

Tinubu and APC just hate Igbos for no reason.

No matter what we are the best tribe in the World!
...the most intelligent and richest.

Whether they like it or not, we must develop Nigeria.

membranus:
Now that Buhari is not in government anymore, the Igbos have turned their hatred from the Hausas to the Yorubas because of Tinubu. But they have forgotten one thing, that the Yorubas are not as quiet online as the Hausas, but are more vociferous than them. So until the end of Tinubu rule it is fire for fire. Let us see who will relent.

They are a very hateful bunch!
They said very horrible things about Buhari and the North for 8 years and they suddenly want them to vote for their son.

Now they have transferred their bile onto the Yorubas and Tinubu.

...making enemies everywhere.
When they lose again at national elections, they will start braying about some phantom marginalization, like donkeys.

#LetTheIgbosGo.

Their own too much

Electorate:
You guys are happy people are being killed abi?...You and your families will suffer the same fate too and nairalanders will laugh at your miseries just like when it happened to sarki the supporter of evil.

You will all cry for mercy and no one wil listen.

Mark my word, it will hapoen.

Koshi daanu!

Unknown Gunmen must favour you and your family!

When they were warning you, you claimed they were trying to marginalize you abi?

Generalmystic:
I keep asking, is Tinubu not considering SE as part of Nigeria anymore?

South East is Biafra...

Tinubu is the president of Nigeria.

It will be wrong for him to stick his nose where it does not 'consign' him.

SOSinNigeria:
Stop this nonsense, Lagos is not synonymous with SW!

Stop repeating such lies and hoping it will stick because no one is buying it!

Lagos is Nigeria's Commonwealth. All Nigerians are stakeholders there.

Are you not a Biafran anymore?

Wetin 'consign' you with Lagos or Nigeria?

festacman:
Miss Joy Mmesoma Ejikeme was victim of the fear of meeting people's expectations. Obviously, she was troubled about how to face and explain to her school teachers, fellow students and admirers that she scored lowly 249 in JAMB contrary to expectations as a high-flier.

That is why it is important that parents teach their children how to face humiliations and failures in life and help them overcome these sure-to-come life challenges rather put more pressure on them. That is also why the current 'pampering' educational reward system in private school where every child goes with one award or another at the end of the session in order to help their egos is bad.

No dey talk rubbish oga!

ottersberger:
Una wey no shame.

Fulani wy ESN show who be boss inside SE bushes collect a whole town from Yoruba hand and they not only kept it, but systematically erasing age-long Yoruba tradition and way of life.

Na inside Igbo matter una prick wan hard. I'll let you in on a little secret though, the day Igbo decides to pay you miscreants back in your own coin and forges an alliance with Fulani, you're all dust. Believe that.

You and your people can't do shit

franchasofficia:
When I tell people that God and nature are the main upholders of justice by giving us all a dose of the medicine we give to others to taste and see how bitter it taste, they think its a bluff.


When Bible said that we should treat others the same way we expect them to treat us, Tinubu's Yoruba Muslim supporters deceiving good Yoruba Christians say na lie.



Yorubas and Hausa-Fulanis have for many decades worked so hard to ensure Igbo population is reduced. They first polluted the minds and hearts of Igbo speaking communities with Igbo heritage in today's Southsouth that they are not Igbos, that Igbos in Southeast are devil that must be rejected at all cost, just because of crude oil.


They tell Igbo communities in Delta state, Rivers state and others to reject their Igbo identity and ancestry in the name of crude oil and some of those Igbos ignorantly dance to their tone just because Igbos lost war in 1970.



Today, nature is gradually rewarding all those that put sword of enmity among brothers in their quest to loot and steal crude oil money.



The one time undying love between Hausas and Fulanis and Kanuris and Nupes and Idomas and other Nothern tribes is breaking gradually. Soon, it will turn messy in the North when the full tribal war between Fulanis and Hausas will enter the full rage.



The Yorubas are not being spared yet they don't want to retrace their evil step instead they keep bragging that all is well with them and will remain well with them forever.



Make una continue to the do evil, na so evil go trek come una house one after the other, just a matter of time

Give one example to support your devilish claims above.

I am sure you can't, but anything to drive you victim mentality.

You are actually cursed!

Who cares about you to go around asking people not to identify with you?

Who effing cares!

The S.South does not want to identify with you of their own volition, but you refuse to accept that.

...you dragged them into Biafra, but you refuse to talk about that.

Greedy apes!

Let them go abeg!

OduduwaYoruba:
The 3 years ban is childish and it should be reversed. The lady scored 264 which means she's brilliant they should allow him to continue with the result. If jamb refused, then of what important is JAMB in once life. The lady should go elsewhere to further her EDUCATION.

What stupidity is this?

Fraud should not be punished?

Are you serious?

Seun

Is this what Nairaland has turned too?

Someone can freely peddle lies and it makes front page?

This is a big shame!

alfarouq:
wow， so the 2017 was systematically factored out because it will spoil the preconceived notion OP was trying to pass

These guys are evil!

GerogeI:
Am sure you know release simply means to hold as valid. And withold means to hold as invalid or pending.
Are you a JAMB staff. How were you recruited? For you to think result release means online publication, it must be one of those quota system backdoor recruitment.

If JAMB truly published copies of this young lady's result to the public- that is a human right violation that goes even beyond Nigeria's constitution to international treaty. They can be sued not just in Nigeria, but also in ECOWAS Court, reported to UN General Assembly. Flagged to UNICEF.

In fact at this point the little girl does not even need Scholarship because she can apply for protection to any other country of the world, against clearly publicized Authority aggression and they will respond fast to protect a child. Do the Idiots at JAMB understand the ramifications of what they are doing.

This is why Nigeria is failing in everything, unqualified people maning posts of responsibility based on ethinic sentiments and nepotisim.

A 19 year old is a child?

You well so?

Zxcvbnmghtr:
Lol . If JAMB is anything tribalistic, which the insinuation is that it is a victimization targeted at Igbos. Why has JAMB still allowed the legally proven candidate with the highest score to still be IGBO? Food for thought.

Don't you think those who might have been involved in the alleged forgery did so because they already knew the girl's records and could easily use it to back up their claim of innocence if caught?

I scored 540 over 600 in my days during the common enterance It's no big deal. There was a classmate who scored 589.

Very silly logic.

I had 566 in those days.

Highest in my year was 584.

It is no big deal...

...but children of hate must hate!

Iamgrey5:
Na Jamb post the logo on Vanguard website?

Person wey brain dey pain!

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AImiron:
Who the fcvk is okoloko?
It's sound like "another man's gbola" in Yoruba

Weyrey!🤣🤣🤣

kamalbob:
I'm from core north but abeg Tinubu should make sure that his people dominate his cabinet. Our people wasted our chances for good 8 years. So don't even try to balance anything. We are behind you, so if you like appoint yorubas 100%, you will still have our votes in 2027.

If he has a cabinet like Obasanjo's, we will be fine.

So happy you could say the truth.
You are a true Nigerian