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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:43am On Jun 21, 2021
I think Xavi influenced that Barca team more than iniesta but as a player iniesta was better. However, iniesta had memorable moment that drew more attention to him in football world.
Source: eye test.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:40am On Jun 21, 2021
airmark:
''Busquets at his prime'' gang in the mud.
See this highlight and watch Bousquet escort service https://www.instagram.com/p/CQWi38Bizof/?utm_medium=copy_link.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:38am On Jun 21, 2021
swiz123:
Arguements here are mostly funny. I see it as cruise though. If I front Fabregas as a great player due to his goals and assists, our own special pundit will drop a thousand reasons why Fab is a nonsense player. Now Iniesta who is a very influential player on the pitch who posses almost no weakness to his team is dragged for not being as productive as his peers. A player who broke press with his dribbling is maligned for not scoring or giving the final pass.

Now this same pundit doesn't let us rest on how Fab became a bench warmer at 27 but conviniently excused Xavi for cheerleading for 10 years of his early career. Fab at 24 had at least 150 g/a to his name but this doesn't concern him.

When arguements are laced with sentiments, double standard becomes inevitable.
This is why I advise people to watch football and bank on eye test to rate players because statistics is the most irrational way to do so.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:12am On Jun 21, 2021
My people watch this highlight on Instagram then tell me who tried to stop Lampard for Ramirez goal, and check who was escorting Ramirez in CB position.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CQWi38Bizof/?utm_medium=copy_link. Mascherano left his CB position to stop Lampard(as he always do in every match) and it was expected of Bousquet to cover his CB position but my man got no pace to do that than to escort Ramirez.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m):
Almajirihunter:
I had to check again, that’s like 2 goals every year. Funny enough I used to score with him on PES so much grin grin.
35 goals in 16years embarassed cry
It was really poor though. I think his memorable goals helped his popularity which gave him legendary status. Another example is Zidane, his France 1998 final match and his famous goal against leverkusen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:48am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:
Xavi had been playing 1st team football since Rivaldo's era. Una go dey yab Havertz and Mount, but we should praise Xavi for being a bench warmer for Spain at age 24.

Xavi that was almost offloaded to Bayern before Guardiola stopped the move. That's how surplus to requirement he was then.

Xavi should be eternally grateful to Iniesta.
I understand your point but they actually helped each other to become world class. Remember Xavi bossed 2008 nations cup for Spain without iniesta too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:22am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:
It's a lie. It's Xavi who had less influence in 10 years before Iniesta became a 1st team player. Go watch that 2006 final very well. Arsenal packed the bus, but Iniesta came in to destroy that bus with a killer pass. Xavi didn't play a single minute.

I ask again... Where is Xavi's UCL win without Iniesta beside him?
As at then iniesta was still a squad player like xavi. But then again, xavi didn’t peak on time for Barca, I think he peaked almost in his mid 20s.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:13am On Jun 21, 2021
Debroslink:
We all saw Iniesta @ 22 win the 2006 UCL on the field without Xavi playing a single minute.

Ibime should show us the UCL Xavi won without Iniesta beside him in his 17 years stay in Barca.

Football isn't about 100 passes. It's about impact.
So you mean to tell me iniesta was influential to 2006 win. Both were good and needed each other. They complimented each other to become great.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m):
Kilishihunter:
Oga stop shifting posts,the way you put your narration would make one who didn't watch the video to believe he was doing both CB and DM jobs at the same time, whereas it's just him tackling and intercepting attackers who came at him in the defence, He threw his long passes in the video from defence which rudiger as well as most CBs do, I've told you he might not be your typical 'english' DM or CM like kante and fernandinho but he chased seydou keita, Yaya toure and mascherano from the defensive midfield and also reprised it in Spain so that Xavi and xabi operated higher up the pitch, Give that man respect abeg, Pep, Vincente del Bosque (Former real Madrid coach) and Enrique are no fools and dullards can't operate with xavi and iniesta
Mascherano that was intercepting opponent play outside his 18 yard box. Mascherano made high line football successful for Barca then. Since he left high line football became a disaster since bousq can not actually make runs to intercept. It takes someone that understand football devoid of sentiment to know what I am saying is true. I watched Barcelona then and saw this thing. The fact that bousq remain is just pep’s doing, it doesn’t mean he is better than the midfielders he pushed backward for them. Pep will play Valdez ahead of cech, Buffon or casillas due to ball playing goalkeeper, doesn’t make Valdez better than them. Pep played Martinez in CB too at Bayern and destroyed his career and momentum. Martinez was everything for Bayern while playing CDM but in order to defend bousq inefficient as CDM Raumdeuter said martinez was reckless
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 1:31am On Jun 21, 2021
Kilishihunter:
90% of this video just shows mascherano winning balls and tackles as a CB in a defensive highline na, didn't you see pique alongside him most of the time? And the long passes he was throwing from defence in this same highline are done by even Pique too so how did he come out to do busquets job then? Does rudiger not throw passes from defence too?
Is Rudiger playing high line.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m):
Bousquet kor biscuit ni
Now we see sisi like type of DM and call it clever.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:30pm On Jun 20, 2021
Godx:
You must be really insane. The entire video you posted is of Macherano performing his duties as a Centre back. Next time don't type nonsense with zero proof to back it up.
You are blind period.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:04pm On Jun 20, 2021
Godx:
This video actually shows how insane you are for even typing those nonsense earlier.
You are blind if you don’t see how he was coming out from his CB zone to win the ball and distribute to attackers. Watch bousq and see how boring it is. How earth warm wan take play CDM. So any CDM wey Dey mark Una go say e nor get technique just to defend bousq of which marking is every CDM primary role.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 10:54pm On Jun 20, 2021
izzou:
[color=royalblue]So who was doing the CB work for Mascherano?

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Did you even watch Barca then, if you do you will understand the angle i am talking from.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 10:49pm On Jun 20, 2021
Godx:
Provide the evidence of the nonsense you have been saying.
watch this clip and see if he was playing like a CB or CDM. We all know how CB play. The guy was winning most of the ball outside his 18 yard box and giving long passes that was resulting to goals. Watch it and tell me if that’s not how proper CDM play.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ma_pc6jMw0
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 10:40pm On Jun 20, 2021
Godx:
You are typing nonsense. If they ask you to provide evidence of all these rubbish you have typed now, nothing you will provide.
I watched Barca glory days boy so I know what I am saying.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 10:35pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:
But you people lambast them as if they do nothing, is it not escorts that they are popularly called here
How won’t they do nothing when they are not Statue of Liberty. They were doing football basics which is normal to every professional player except bakayoko.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 10:32pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Which Barcelona didn't lose the ball? Because of MSN the possession stats were lower than Pep's version, Mascherano was more of your typical strong, aggressive, tackling dm but he was still pushed to the center back role by busquets
The fact that he was pushed to CB didn’t stop his defensive midfield work for the team. That’s how pep structured the team and they continued that way since it brought glory to the team. Forget bousq being CDM on paper mascherano was still the one doing actual defensive midfield work.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 10:28pm On Jun 20, 2021
BlueAngel444:
shocked undecidedhuh?
He is the one that don’t know football. Lol.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:45pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:
But you people lambast them as if they do nothing, is it not escorts that they are popularly called here
They are called escort because they can not carry out their primary duty.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:37pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
This guy doesnt know anything

So you didnt know that Mascherano played CB for Barcelona while Busquets played DM
I know but watching Barca game then you will see that mascherano was the one doing defensive midfield work since they play high line. Barca rarely loose the ball but when they do and caught on counter it is mascherano you will see doing the chasing. Bousq will be far up field behind xavi.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:34pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:
They won't see that oooh cause the eyes of many are on chiesa, veratti and belotti but let them receive a heavy thrashing that's when he'll be lambasted to the high heavens
Was Jorg and bousq primary role? Any player can pass.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:26pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
There is a reason all the coaches of Xabi play a DM to help him out
There is a reason mascherano and yaya were behind bousq. Immediately mascherano retired bousq became useless. Mascherano was the actual CDM for Barca in their glory days because they play high line football. Bousq is just there to recycle short and side way passes.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:20pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
Interceptions
Not true. If at all he intercept can you compare him to Kante or Casemiro or fabinho in that regard.
You see that Alonso is refer to as DM in the picture below.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:17pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
As a DM Busquest is better than Xabi

SImple
He is not better.

Complex.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:12pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
Basically Xabi lacks all the characteristics of what makes a DM great

No wonder you also think Vidal will play DM

Pep has left Busquets since 2012, 9yrs later coaches still start Busquets at DM
And which characteristic that make bousq great as CDM?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:09pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
Basically Xabi lacks all the characteristics of what makes a DM great

No wonder you also think Vidal will play DM

Pep has left Busquets since 2012, 9yrs later coaches still start Busquets at DM
Alonso is not DM but he is more useful as DM than bousq is my argument. Of course I know that Alonso is a deep lying midfielder also known as regista. He can also play CM. But my point is he did everything better than bousq even when the later is refer to as DM.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:06pm On Jun 20, 2021
Kilishihunter:
Which Alonso was the dm? Except for the few times del Bosque paired them up as two CDMs behind xavi, Busquets mostly played lower on the pitch than Alonso because of his long passing, and he could shoot better than busquets when Spain were chasing a goal but most of the defensive work ahead of Ramos and Pique was left to Busquets, Busquets was the proper defensive midfielder, Xabi was the deep playmaker,
And I like how you subtly ignored Enrique's achievements with Barcelona, Luis Enrique was appointed in 2018, left the post briefly cause of his daughter's death but still came back to put Spain in the UEFA nations league semis, humiliating Germany 6-0 though it was rodri not busquets who played in that match, don't let their current plight fool you
Was there actual CDM work for Spain to do seeing that they were always with the ball. This is why bousq rarely do CDM work because nothing much to actually do for him than to recycle passes with xavi and iniesta. Has Enrique won trophies with Spain yet.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:00pm On Jun 20, 2021
devvy44:
Madrid/Liverpool fans that watched him play won’t regard him as a DM, I don’t know what that guy is saying
He orchestrate play from deep didn’t make him CDM of the team. Alonso that change defense to goal with just one pass. Alonso and Pirlo na daddy, bousq Don bath. If not that pep dey mad who be bousq were men dey. Tomorrow now dem go behind compare rodri to makelele, carrick keane because man city dey win epl. Barca wining trophies was not down to bousq but messi, xavi superiority, mostly messi.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 5:56pm On Jun 20, 2021
When it comes to midfield matters No sensible football lover will rate bousq ahead of Alonso, when you nor Dey craze. Alonso of all player, bousq Dey craze. Abeg enough of this insult. Bousq know him level. The fact that pep over do things doesn’t give room for bousq to talk when yaya Dey yarn.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 5:52pm On Jun 20, 2021
[quote author=devvy44 post=102918942][/quote]Show am. Alonso wey be baba. Xabi Alonso is one of the midfielders I don’t joke with, he can play any type of tactics and still be quality.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 5:44pm On Jun 20, 2021
raumdeuter:
Was Alonso old when Mascherano Khedira and Sisoko was used as DM over him at Liverpool and Madrid?
But Alonso was deep lying play maker of the team and he was doing his job perfectly. Wait are you comparing bousq with Alonso? Nor try am. Someone that played for Liverpool, Madrid and Bayern nor be small player.

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