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So nobody can tell me the year Busquets ceased to be in his prime, right?

Prime kill y'all there.

Nor mind them. Bousq and prime na myth.

Trevor012:
Keep shut

what year was this?. Show me bousq stat defensively you are showing me constructive criticism. Again if you think bousq is better than Alonso defensively you are a clown.

Trevor012:
Bring out their defensive contribution as they are Dms and stop typing shalayes about free kicks,shoot from distance. Leave those for people like De bruyne, Pogboom.

You bring out bousq defensive stat first. You must be a clown if you think bousq is defensively better than Alonso.

It’s not a coincidence that most football lovers and football governing body don’t rate bousq, Jorginho and rodri. Their type of DM is annoying. Pirlo and Alonso were special with the ball; free kick, long passes, accurate shots from outside the box and dictating the play perfectly from deep.

Jodera:
Carrick was highly rated and the reason you're saying he's matic level is because both played in EPL and busquet played in la liga.

And for the umpteenth time, busquet with rodri and jorginho no be mate.
No dey put dem for one sentence abeg

I watched both of them, yes he was Matic level in their prime. Carrick is English and playing for Man U under SAF so it is expected for him to be highly rated above his actual talent.

Melvyn11:
Fact is all Barca players are overated from Messi (especially Messi) to Xavi etc Hyped more than their actually ability. I just saw Ibime Celebrating Xavi 90% pass completion when they are mostly sideways and 3 yard passes.

Bousq and Valdez were the ok players in that Barca team. The rest were quality in their position. Xavi was the dictator and orchestrator in that midfield while iniesta was the ball carrier. Bousq was the short passer with no defensive duty because ball possession already covered that.

Jodera:
Lol...
Busquet carried by barca and Spain squad? Nice.

Yes of course, he was carried in both teams. It’s not hate on bousq I’m telling you how it is.

Jodera:
True..
But technical DMs always brings calmness.
Carrick, busquet and even fabinho are all good technical DMs

Carrick and fabinho can actually defend while playing from deep unlike bousq. Pirlo and Alonso werrr special in this role. And also tackle doesn’t mean park the bus.

Trevor012:
Dictate against teams parking the bus. Against teams that presses high they became useless like Kante in the world cup final because defensively they are liabilities

attention seeker ok.

Jodera:
Jorg wanted him for man city, same way he wanted sane for man city.
Even rodri that's in man city, him no even reach prime busquet level.

So, Does that mean sane is same level as messi or gundogan is same level as iniesta cos he bought them?

Bousq and prime is a myth. In reality, bousq was never in any prime, he was carried by the superior players in that Barca team then. If he was ever in his prime show me his individual honor.

Ibime:
Busquet will not even displace an Oriol Romeu right now.

Many things exposed Busquet, not only faster pace of football - including losing Xavi who controls the ball for him so opponents can't attack him. Nothing to do with age.

When a fancy ball playing DM wins UCL, we never hear the last of it from ninnies. When Casemiro type DM was winning UCL back to back, nobody came touting it as the superiority of combative DM. Most titles are won by combative DMs but when a Busquets, Rodri or Jorginho win something, we won't hear word.

Who told you Hojberg is not a passing DM? Just like Fernandinho I look for DM that can pass and hustle. First time I saw Hojberg was live at Etihad stadium playing for Bayern Vs Man City. He was an AM then, and he had a lot of pace plus good passing ability. I was impressed with his transition to DM over the last two years that's why I pinpointed him as a potential signing for Chelsea. When it comes to passing, Hojberg is one of the best. He made the 2nd most passes in EPL this season behind Rodri

This is what made Pirlo and Alonso special regista, they actually dictate from deep unlike bousq and co.

Jodera:
Nobody is saying combative DM isn't good, but it's you guys that are belittling technical DMs. In fact, I don't remember anybody hyping technical DMs as you put it.

One thing I believe you know is that technical DMs are scarce and not readily available unlike combative DMs. Also technical DMs will always bench combative DM in a top attacking team cos they give calmness in most combative DMs don't

Again not true, only pep and Sarri will do that. You saw how pep almost ruined Bayern in European football with his no tackle pattern.

Jodera:
defensive minded coaches wouldn't want busquet in their team

You can be defensive and play exciting football if you have the personal. Example was Mourhino Madrid. Know this bro pep is not the sI unit of how to play football so stop thinking defensive football with great counter attack is bad while ball possession style is the way. To most people ball possession football is boring. I enjoyed ball possession football when pep was coaching Barca due to the players he had then, not now. I prefer watching Madrid, Liverpool under Klopp than man city and Barca.

Jodera:
Jorg wanted him for man city, same way he wanted sane for man city.

Does that mean sane is same level as messi or gundogan is same level as iniesta cos he bought them?

Sane and messi narrative doesn’t hold water because messi has individual honor to show for his ability. Show me bousq individual honor that I will not compare him with Jorg. Pep doesn’t believe in tackle this is why he prefer ball playing goalkeeper, ball playing CB and ball playing DM, that’s his philosophy but it’s not a general notion. Last time I check best DMs in world football are still the ones that can tackle and at same time effect the game offensively, these are the DMs winning individual honors not bousq and co who their type are known today due to pep. Pep believe in winning the ball back as a group.

Jodera:
only negative minded coaches of course

You mean counter attacking coaches.

Trevor012:
Xabi Alonso has always been a liability against teams that presses high. Defensively he is wack. Zero pace,zero physicality, etc As a Dm he is Wacker than Busquet and even Jorginho same with your darling Pirlo. Pirlo and Alonso in 2021 where team press like mad men will be exposed as frauds

These are his later stage in his career. Alonso in his prime was a beast. Keep shut and stop spreading propaganda to suit your wack narrative.

Jodera:
Carrick was highly rated and the reason you're saying he's matic level is because both played in EPL and busquet played in la liga.

And for the umpteenth time, busquet with rodri and jorginho no be mate.
No dey put dem for one sentence abeg

Jorg will do same thing that bousq did for Barca the reason they are on same level. There is a reason pep wanted Jorg for man city. If he signed for pep you would’ve confirmed what I am saying now.

Jodera:
Wack since mid twenties?

How many faster players is he facing in la liga that he's putting up underwhelming displays presently?

Busquet have drop form, and also his speed dropped due to age.

One thing you fail to understand is that football is not just faster only, as you put it but also highly technical now. Reason why a prime busquet will displace a prime khedira or hojgberg anyday, anytime, anywhere.

Not in every team and for every coach.

Trevor012:
Keep shut . Look at Madrid fans complaining about Xabi Alonso because of how useless he is defensively . Like I told you earlier when you press Alonso he becomes useless .

You see how he is been criticized constructively because they know he is quality but during this time he was coming to his later stage in his career so it is expected. If I should show you how Bousquet have been abused by Barca fans you will keep shut.

Trevor012:
We are talking about without the ball here . Both are slow and huge defensive libabilties especially Pirlo. Xabi was the most dribbled player in La Liga for three seasons . He was useless defensively. Like I told you before a worst version of Jorginho defensively is Pirlo

They were not defensive liabilities, you were too young then to know this things. Are you telling me Bousquet is strong without the ball. He is the most weakest without the ball.

Almajirihunter:
Me I certainly liked Pirlo’s and Alonso’s passes and ability to score good goals something Jorginho can’t do to save his life

Only idiots will compare Alonso and Pirlo to those three acclaimed DM.

Trevor012:
Strong with which ball? . Pirlo and Alonso are even worst defensively that Jorginho and Busquet . Imagine a player worst defensively that Jorginho that's Pirlo

They are strong with the ball is different from without the ball. Have you seen Chelsea against Brighton when Jorg play as lone DM, you need to see how open we were at the back that day.

Jodera:
Alonso had khedira and mascherano to cover his play as cm or Am. Pirlo mostly played as Am when he was young.

Since mascherano is so good, why didn't he bench busquet since what xavi and iniesta just needed was a mascherano type presence if busquet was just "ok".

Why was busquet always starting Spain match alongside with xavi, iniesta and Alonso in 2010 world cup, but if the coach wants to do sub in the midfield, the first person he'll sub is always always always Alonso?.

Why did someone like Carrick shone in the DM role when EPL was EPL and really strong, but you feel someone like busquet won't?

Vidal, mascherano, song, all went to barca at the peak of their powers yet they all shifted back to cb or were in the bench. In fact, try watching their games wen any of those trio play and you'll see they aren't in sync with that midfield. You think busquet is just there for fashion?

I laugh

Was carrick the best DM during his time? But I like carrick because he was strong and play DM like Matic, carrick was matic level and werrr better than rodri, bosq and Jorg. Alonso and Pirlo na their daddy. But you see Bousquet, Jorg and rodri na scam them be for that role. Pep gave that platform to bosq due to his pattern of play.

Trevor012:
Look at the ratings from L' Equipe . Kante was the worst Midfielder and player for France no wonder he was sharply removed

Was pogba the best player that night, the answer is no so he is always in between in that French squad, the only team keeping him relevance. Call me when pogba led a team to ucl or epl trophy or win epl best player of the season.

Trevor012:
I didn't ask you for individual Honors . Provide Pirlo and Alonso defensive stats or sit down . Those two will be raped today will all the pressing teams used. Imagine Alonso chasing Mbappe, Salah or Mane

They will not be raped because they are strong with the ball in their feet, you don’t easily dispossessed them unlike Jorg and Bousquet.

Liposure:
Pirlo was not just an ordinary midfielder. Pirlo was a deep lying playmaker

Yes also known as regista which bouquet, Jorg and rodri claim to play. Pirlo was a free kick specialist too, long accurate passes and dictating the play same with Alonso with his long short and all. These two guys were doing extraordinary in that role unlike those three. This is why they were recognized by football governing body.

Trevor012:
Alonso was even the worst. Alonso tended to dwell on the ball for his clubs and he made quite of unforced errors and gave the ball away unecessarily. He didn't have the trait elite midfielders had such as being press resistant same with Carrick. Once you close him down all his composure goes out of the window. He was the weakest of all the Spanish midfielders technically.

[img][/img] Alonso’s individual honor. Show me Bousquet own. And also watch the video above of bouquet error.

Trevor012:
Can't you see "Claim" . French newspaper trying to save Kante reputation after being bundled away from the final like a used rag

Almost every sport outlets carried the news.

Trevor012:
Lies from the pit of hell Kante was bundled away like a useless piece of rag

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Trevor012:
Pirlo was a defensive liability same as Jorginho, Busquet etc And on this thread we don't rate Dms that are defense liabilities

On this thread or you.

Trevor012:
This is Pogboom in a world cup final and this was Kante . Kante dropped a disaster class was sharply bundled away

see this one. Kante was sick before that final. He was forced to play show you how important he is to the team.

Trevor012:
Nonsense again....... Pirlo was a defensive liability just like Busquet, Jorginho etc Nobody cares about what you enjoy. When talking about Dms all we care about on this thread is Tackles, interceptions, Duels won etc not quality on the ball or intelligence so like I said Pirlo was trash in all those aspects. Bring Pirlo to 2021 and he will massively be exposed for his zero defensive ability and lack of workrate with all the pressing teams are using now. I remember Ferguson using Park to man mark the idiot and he was useless.

Go check meaning of regista and stop disgracing yourself.
Okay let me help you.