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KingAlabi:
Oga what was real Madrid position when mou took over


With this tour idealogy we can say pep going out of the UCL at QF for the last 3 years means, man City wasn't as a team?

man city as a team were formidable in ucl before pep, they were semi finalist before pep.

KingAlabi:
As a team and a club

I don tire oh !!!!

So is Chelsea as a team in the champions league or as a club

Like I told you, Real Madrid as a club(entity) is heavy weight. Team and club are two different thing if you don’t know. Man U is a big club but as a team they are under performing according to the club’s status.

KingAlabi:
Lolz, he has his first difficult job, win the premier with Tottenham, but top 4 don turn mission impossible

What did Ole do with Cardiff? Tell pep to take a difficult job for once. He said chelsea needed 10 players before they can win epl but Conte came and won it. He ran from Man U job. Lol

KingAlabi:
Was united now Tottenham toxic for him

Who is Tottenham? When last they won a trophy.

KingAlabi:
So your saying when Madrid got knocked out by Ajax they were the underdogs too ?

Yes Madrid as a team not club can be under dog depending on their performance as at the time.

KingAlabi:
So your saying when Madrid got knocked out by Ajax they were the underdogs too ?

madrid as a club is heavy weight but as a team then they were performing below par and getting knocked out by Lyon and the rest. Know the difference between team/squad and club.

Jodera:
Which difficult job?
Taking over Chelsea at 2004/05 with Abrahamovic money is a difficult job?


Taking an inter job with only inter as the superior due to juve relegated and Milan deducted massive points is a difficult job? (With both juve and Milan massively declined)

Madrid with world class players having kaka and c Ronaldo (two world best and world class players in their prime) plus other world class players having just only barca to contend with, is a difficult job?

Having spurs job after being jobless for a year is a difficult job?

Tomorrow if spurs sack mourinho and Brighton employs him, you'll start saying how he loves difficult job at Brighton.


The only difficult job he has was man u, that is to make man u win the league with guardiola and, klopp in the league already. But my man has to finish 6th in the league in order to win Europa. Finished 2nd and start raving how finishing 2nd is better than slice bread. The next season again, he's also out of top 4. Meaning he spent just 1 season in top 4 in man u. But of course, he's the king cos he won Europa that guardiola will never think of, or carabao cup that is just an add-on for guardiola trophy.

The worst is that, you guys are even calling community shield trophy for mourinho.
How low... Chai

Your first paragraph, Chelsea have never won the league for 50 years before mou came, he got Man U and Arsenal to contend with.

Your second paragraph, he won ucl with inter Milan.

Third paragraph, with those players yet Madrid was struggling to make it past r16 in ucl for good 6 years. Mou made the team formidable again by making 3 semis. In all this, Kaka was always injured and out of form.

How do you expect him to win the league when the environment became toxic for him, including ex players interfering in his job. Now they are quiet since Ole one of their own is in charge.

Ibime:
If that's so, why do Jorginho maxi's keep disturbing us anytime he dominates Palace or Newcastle. Is that what we bought him for, to dominate games we would have won anyway, and to become liability in the.big games?

Jorg can be used in those games not against top sides when all are fit. Jorg is weak, he collapse under pressure.

BlueMann:

He should go pls.

airmark:
If Kovacic doesn't play against Madrid, Kante will collapse under that Modric-Casemiro-Kroos dominance and our defence will be tormented unless we play low-block for majority of the game and hoping on converting counters or 2012 miracle.

Without Kovacic we were overpowered in the middle by unknown Porto midfielders, yet his haters want TT not to use him against Madrid. It must be a mental disorder.

Kovacic is very important to Chelsea only a blind bat think otherwise.

KingAlabi:
How is Tottenham a difficult job?

When last did Tottenham finish outside top 4 before mou came in?

Tott are underdogs to trophies so you demanding for trophy from Tottenham simply because mou is their coach now is not difficult abi?

KingAlabi:
Stop comparing mou with ole now

One is top class, the other mediocre

In an examination will you criticize a dull student for taking 2nd, 3rd or 6th?

What of a top class student taking 6th?

So you know and then some of your comrade are comparing them.
Btw, nor be same head them carry come life.

KingAlabi:
We won a trophy just before mou came in, and it was a trophy better than 2 trophies mou won.

Compare to Ole the DNA man mou won 3 trophies. Mou was getting jibes from man u ex players, how about now that Ole is in charge, same ex players have gone mute because ole is one of their own. Those ex players were throwing jibes at mou and you expect him not to retaliate. Those ex players contributed to the toxicity Mou had at man u.

KingAlabi:
From grace to grass for mou.

From being compared to elites like pep, to been compared with mediocre like ole and dean freaking Smith.

Aston Villa and the underdog loving coach competing for the Europa conference.

What I love to see.

Thats a trait of a great man, he is not afraid to take a difficult job unlike pep that demand unlimited spending before taking a job for fear of failure.

KingAlabi:
At that time
Oga Madrid can never be an underdog in a UCL.

getting knocked out by lyon in r16 in 6 seasons is what?

BARAJ92:
What are you even saying. As if, it is easy to win the champions league every season, Mention any manager apart from Zidane that have win the champions league in consecutive years. Same Mourinho that has always been relieved of his duties, mention one club that has sacked Guardiola in between the season.
What happen to Mourinho that he won only a league title with Madrid with world class players that later won the champions league 4 times after he was sack.

A season before Mourinho was employed to Chelsea, they have finished second and in the previous season, they have been eliminated in the semi final, why didn't Mourinho win a champions league trophy with them or a premier League title after his return to premier League.

Currently, Mourinho have lost his winning touch, Most top clubs would go for Guardiola before considering Mourinho.

You mean clubs with unlimited budget will go for pep. ok i agree

popizaino:


I have heard worse from Jose Mourinho fans.

How was ronaldo performing with madrid in ucl before mourhino?

handelex:
Rubbish.

A good manager leaves a solid foundation for his successor to build on and continue the winning culture not burning everything down and leaving a toxic environment behind.

That Mourinho won something in his first season at United was the work of Van Gaal which he destroyed and we are here today.

So what did pep do to bayern before and after he left?

Illimitable:
It is.....

The fact that other managers have done it immediately rubbishes Pep’s achievement and indicates he’s not special.

How long ago the clubs had won it before the manager’s arrival also indicates the mentality the manager had to beat to win it.

Pep failure alone at bayern is enough to end this debate. I remember when i was telling raumdeuter pep has regressed bayern he was arguing, when he left they became formidable again and won treble. Only a sentimental being will say pep>mou achievement. I don't like mou tactics but in terms of achievement the guy is really special.

popizaino:
All this players including two previous world best players together with xabi Alonso,modric,nuhu sahin,cavalho name them is what I call backing .

How were those players performing in ucl before mou took over?

popizaino:
The two biggest franchises in football club history is underdog because Jose was employed ....this argument is lost at this point

As at then madrid was underdog in ucl. same with chelsea.

handelex:
OH the annionting didn't finish in his first season although you've refused to state the 3 miracle trophies of the first season.

In season 2 he used the residue annionting to win Degea a Golden Glove
Wow this man do miracle pass TB Joshua oo, wonderful.

So what of the third season, I expect he did mind blowing things here, you know you always save the best for the last...

His defensive solidified tactics gave De Gea the glove.

handelex:
Just name the 3 miracle trophies nau

Don't be shy

Before the three trophies how was man u faring?

Illimitable:
CL finalist team that he met at 14th.

The CL final was a fluke. Spurs hadn’t won an away game in the PL in almost a year - until Jose joined them.

What sort of a CL Finalist fails to win a league game away from home for more than a year?

I challenge you to look at all the CL finalists since it’s inception in the 50s, none of the finalists had failed to win an away league game in almost a year.

You are schooling these guys on mou pep debate. I can see their response to you is weak, they are now trolling instead of bringing fact like you are doing. Kudos

raumdeuter:
No other Barcelona coach has won a sextuple

No other coach in the history of EPL has made 100points

No other coach in epl history won the league with less goal conceded.

raumdeuter:
Pep won the sextuple at Barcelona
Pep broke the EPL points record, what was thought impossible, he made 100points

With those luxurious spending how is it impossible for pep. Liverpool almost did it last season with less spending and limited budget. When it come to tactics i am not a fan of mourhino but achievement wise mou>>pep.

Lana1:
When Mourinho fans say "Mourinho wasn't backed", they mean Woodward didn't buy him more defenders.

Because Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young, Darmian, Rojo, Blind, Bailly and Lindelof was not enough defenders. We needed 3 more defenders to be able to close that 19 point gap City had on us.

You think pep will use those defenders you mentioned if he were to be man u coach. Pep has the luxury of signing players at man city than any other coach.

ShadowCracker:
Kovacic wey Thiago and Kimmich take rub ground last season.
Nah here we dey, we no go anywhere.....

Lampard"s tactics was average plus transfer ban.

Ibime:
Why not Jorginho?

Don't we trust Jorginho to make them fall back with his possession game?

We shouldn’t rely on ball possession only against Madrid. When fit Kovacic Kante is more better against top side. Evidence was against athletico Madrid second leg and Liverpool match at Anfield.

BlueMann:

Pulisic should come from second half tomorrow. Warner Havertz Mount should start.

Greatihex:
ceding the midfield is like ceding the tie, honestly. That kroos, casemiro and modric will just run us rugged. If we can hold that midfield, we don win. Madrid defense and attack is in that midfield.

We don't need Asensio running unto those passes from kroos and modric, or casemiro hitting shots at our goalie.

We should stick to the formation. Kante Kovacic and Mount for energy and dribbling to match the trio of Real Madrid. Modric is old, it’s just for Kante to close him down while Mount disrupt kroos from playing those long passes. Kovacic to commit Casemiro with his dribbling.

Lana1:
The lost art of ball chesting in 2021

mount own look classic. WB own funny.