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OJURONGBE1:
If Chelsea can win the midfield battle, then, we have less to worry about.
I expect Ramos & Varane to be fit for the semi's, so a front three of Pulisic, Giroud, Ziyech would do just fine.
I don't think Havertz & Werner can hold their own against this two. Giroud has played alongside Varane in the national team and Ziyech was a torn in Madrid's flesh last time Ajax played them.

It doesn’t work that way bro. Mount Havertz Zyech/Pulisic/warner will do the job better.

Ibime:
All he has is vision. Vision alone does not make a midfielder.

Fabregas was never able to control the midfield, there's the key difference between him and Xavi or Xabi Alonso. Don't confuse having eye for pass with midfield control. They are two separate specialties.

You can be deficient defensively if you can control the ball against most opponents which Xavi and Alonso could do. Fabregas can't do that. All he has is the assist.

That's why he was chased from Barca, and even a B level controller like Jorginho chased him from Chelsea.

He was not able to play AM in the modern game. That could have saved him, but a midfielder lacking controlling or defensive abilities sitting in the midfield two becomes a target for opposition managers. Most managers targeted him right from the Spurs game in Jan 2014, and that's why he became a liability and bench fodder right from the age of 27.

These are facts. You can romanticize all you want about his assists, but we are not here to worship one player but to see our team win consistently and no manager agreed they can win consistently with Fabregas in midfield since the age of 27. Even Matic was better for team consistency in the eyes of the manager and any knowledgeable football fan, and till date some Timbuktu niggas in Monaco are better for them to win consistently than worshipping Fabregas assists at the expense of midfield functionality and team success.

You nailed it. Fab got vision and a good goal scorer in his early age but he can’t dictate midfield play properly.

raumdeuter:
This is not bragging, I have forgotten more football than you can remember. The football knowledge in my toenails is more than anything you know. Its the truth

Not true bro. But let me leave you to feel yourself.

raumdeuter:
These same friends that you see everyday that cannot tutor you on football that makes you still spew funny opinions daily

If you are like your friends then there is nothing to look forward to

You are overrating yourself on football matters. Lol

raumdeuter:
Liverpool played Aston Villa today without VVD and they did not concede 7 goals

Baba stop this yarn about VVD. Liverpool greatly miss his present in that team. I always show my Liverpool friends your comment, they get pissed and wish they can see you in person to tutor you on what VVD brings to their team.

popizaino:
This is how they were prior to 2008 before Pep guardiola took over and made them formidable but people said it's Messi.

Really? Wow

Sylva cost us west brom match. His old age showed in that game that resulted to. Red card.

Kilishihunter:
Nothing like that Leeds highly deserved this victory

Of course they deserve it.

raumdeuter:
How do you know City did not take it serious? Did Pep tell you that?

The play told me that. Pep already won epl, he is resting key players for dortmund game.

raumdeuter:
Some posters asking how a team who got a red card in the first half can win a game when Bayern did vs Stuttgart 2 weeks ago

Now Leeds is beating Citeh the runaway champion with a first half red card

You and I know city nor take this match serious.

So sad.

Untimely death is not our portion In Jesus Name.

RIP Callibird.

swiz123:
You know what talent means but sentiment won't let you stop spinning. In case if you don't know, let me describe what a talented mildfielder looks like.

A talented mildfielder is one who has exceptional passing ability, excellent first touch which he uses to catch opponents off guard, creative thinking which makes him create chances out of nothing and an excellent vision.

Kelvin De Bruyne is a perfect example. We used to have Cesc Fabregas and Juan Mata, both of whom had high productivity but were sadly maligned by some fans for not being physical. Kovacic only has one of those attributes and that's why his stats doesn't reflect the activity he forms.

Mount is still young and learning. Mount is English not Spanish and they have the way of playing, only scholes got that Spanish type of play that’s why they like him. Moreover, fab, scholes started as SS or AM.

Bombblacks:
Is Xavi, Iniesta and Messi not system players as well? What is bad in being a system player?

Nothing wrong being a system player just that it’s a big disadvantage if you play for a team with no culture who hire and fire managers at will like Chelsea, Madrid, etc. If Pep succeeded in signing Jorginho then he would’ve being hailed to high heaven by now as the best CDM in epl and the world but unfortunately he is in Chelsea.

Systematic players are easily exposed, it’s selected managers that can use them.

Kilishihunter:
Madrid trio would perform in a better club than the Barca trio yes But I might not agree with your individual comparisons fully As great as Xavi was Most analysts still rate iniesta above him To me iniesta only lacked Messi's consistent finishing he had the rest of his abilities Dribbling Technicality Passing prowess Vision and scoring clutch goals too for both club and country As for Casemiro and busquets In areas of strength and tackling and even scoring you may be right but what I know is that Sergio busquets has been massively underrated throughout his career even by his own fans You could hardly win the ball off prime busquets He would find a way to confuse you and he was the anchor man for that trio and still the one for Spain currently He might not have the brute strength, energy and dirty work Casemiro brings to real but he covers up for it with intelligent passing ball winning and high pressing Don't let his lanky frame deceive you

First and foremost the primary duty of a CDM is to defend, do dirty work for the team before passing. Secondly, Bousquet is a system player, if he play for any team not Barcelona he will seen as average player. Casemiro beat him hands down. If Jorginho was to be in Barca during xavi and iniesta era he will be hailed to high heaven, that’s how you will be seeing him to be great.
Individually, Madrid trio will perform better.

popizaino:
Stop spinning narratives jare .....Mount is only very hardworking and not talented. Let's be guided pls .

So you think is only by leg over and skills that classified as talent. He is talented just that technically Havertz is better. That turn and shoot he did yesterday takes great technique to do that.

Melvyn11:
Anyhow you arrange it, Xavi and Iniesta are not better than either Modric or Kroos.

I think Xavi is slightly better than kroos. Modric and iniesta are on par. I watched xavi and iniesta during their prime so I know what I am saying

Melvyn11:
*Modric>>>>>>>>>>>>Xavi
*Kroos>>>Iniesta

No. kroose and xavi are the dictator, they are more deep in midfield than iniesta and Modric. Iniesta and Modric are the runners or rather ball careers hence my placement.

Kilishihunter:
Yup they are more dynamic and versatile If it's counter Attacking or holding you down in your midfield they do both That's where I would say they edge it more than their barca counterparts They have proven to be legendary but I still think they have to do more to be put on an equal pedestal with xavi and co

Individually, Xavi> Kroose
Iniesta=Modric
Casemiro>>Bousquet.


Collectively, Madrid trio> Barca trio.

Note: Madrid trio will perform better individually in another club.

Kilishihunter:
So what about their overall games abi is it only in the UCL they played in Nobody underates the Madrid trio They won the 3peat So it's criminal to say such They are more dynamic and flexible in tactics than the Barca trio no doubt but the fact about life is no matter how good you are in a certain field you'll surely see someone better than you When we are speaking of a midfield trio close to perfection or pure class Midfield that makes you dance awilo while burning your brain out then.........

I prefer Real Madrid trio due to their dynamism.

During international break Chilwell started two games for England over Shaw.

swiz123:
I have noticed that you think I have a favourite Chelsea player. My favourite player was Hazard. I don't have any in this current squad... Only Kante comes close.

The funny thing is, you can't point to any post of mine hailing Havertz to show he is my favourite. You just assumed that I fancy Havertz very much because I criticise Mount.

While Havertz has not lived up to expectations, I also feel Mount is being overhyped by some fans. I like him because he is hard-working; but then, there is only so much hardwork can achieve without talent.

Rest for this mount matter. Mount is talented and hardworking. Every coach love hardworking players.

Chilwell is more of a modern day LB than Shaw.

Chilwell turned marcelo in that goal.

Hmm. Who and who are this other footballers.

KingAlabi:
West brom says hi?
Still tuchel ball?

Yes anything can happen in football as i said earlier.

SyIvalord:
Dortmund have regressed from last season, they are out of the top four and will most probably not qualify for next season’s CL, they just got beaten by the City team we beat comfortably few weeks ago.

Next time, think before you click submit.

And who told you that's how football works. May i remind you City and united are rivals so anything can happen no matter the later form. Also, one club from Turkey defeated your team in ucl but you think you can defeat dortmund because of their deep in form in the league.

BlueMann:
Exactly. He's just recovering from injury, and we have Porto next week. It makes more sense for the in form Chris and Rudiger to start against Porto. Moreover West Brom were our weakest opponents left on paper this season, so Silva starting shouldn't have been a problem.


Things like that just happen. Silva fvck up, we don collect. We meuvee.

Forget Jorginho shambolic display, sylva bleeped up.

drisham:
Matchday 30:

Havertz 1 goal
Ziyech 1 goal
Pulisic 2 pointless goals
Werner 5 goals

Mount & Abraham both on 12 goals combined compared to 9 goals from our signings...

Na wa

raumdeuter:
Shebi I tell una. Hope you don extend him for 4 more years

He is old tho. I understand Tuchel started him to rest Christensen and Rudiger for ucl.

raumdeuter:
I hope Thiago Silva does not miss any more game till season end

You ehn . Kai Thiago don finish us.

Greatihex:
I don't understand all these excitement about commenting on a particular page. Does it have life benefits? I would like to know.

It increase lifespan