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Oasis007:
Lineup

Pogba is now playing as a winger, what i have been saying.

benji93:
Coach Guardiola may not have a lot of shares, but he does have some shares in the bottling company.

Una don Dey talk true small small. Pep is hiding his flaws under luxurious spending.

handelex:
Quick question for Mou fanboys....

1. If you're given an option between Pep Guardiola and Jose Mourinho to coach your team presently, who will you guys choose?

2. If you're given an option between Mou and Ole to coach your team[United] as of now, who will you guys choose?



Hint: Mou is currently the best coach in the world.

I will choose mou because I don’t have the budget of Angola to give pep.

popizaino:
At No point was Madrid ever an underdog in any competition talk more of UCL were they are the king and not even when they invested heavily in Ronaldo and kaka was had just won the UCL.

Make we hear word abeg.

So because they sign those two made them not to be under dog. Did Kaka won ballon d’ or with Real Madrid? How did his performance with ac Milan mean anything if he failed to perform for Real Madrid. Did cr7 win balon d” or with Real Madrid before mou came? We’re they not struggling to get passed r16 before mou came. How what Cr7 won with Man U help Real Madrid as a club before mou made them formidable again.

handelex:
Lol your gang member is going all emotional and calling names and you're talking about facts and logic

Which facts and which logic, that a Madrid team having Ronaldo, Ramos, Pepe, Kaka, Benzema, Casillas etc be underdog?

Lolz

That Madrid team were struggling in Europe for six years before mou came

That mou achieved with two under dogs team in ucl with make him special

That pep avoid difficult jobs and go for the easy ones to pad stat trophies.

That mou is the current best coach in the last decade according to IFFHS

That Mou won three trophies with Man U whereas Ole still unable to win spoon.

That pep has only won ucl with Barcelona all thanks to messi and co.

That pep got unlimited budget and luxurious spending at man city.

I can go on and on.

raumdeuter:
Simple question Man City has been losing to Lyon and Monaco are they underdogs?
Barcelona lost to Roma, are they underdogs?
Juventus lost to Porto, Lyon and Ajax Are they underdogs?

Here is your answer;

City got to the semifinals in 2016.

There was never a time they got knocked out in the round of 16 for 6 consecutive seasons. How can they be underdogs when it was Pep that was underachieving with them in Europe

Illimitable:
Madrid didn’t get past round of 16 from 2005 to 2010 with the same calibre of players. How come their multiple ballon d’Or winners couldn’t get them past the first knockout tie for 6 consecutive seasons?

Are you people dullards or pretending to be morons?

Leave them. We are talking Madrid in regard to ucl they are bringing number of point won in league games. Smh

Illimitable:
This argument is idiotic.

How come Madrid didn’t win it in 2003 when they had Fat Ronaldo, Zidane, Figo, Beckham, Raúl, Guti, Roberto Carlos, etc?

A year later, they added Michael Owen(another ballon d’Or winner) to their team and they still couldn’t win it.

This is the worst sports thread on this forum by a country mile. The amount of worst takes in football I have seen on this thread is starting to make me think this thread is the natural habitat of all the olodos on NL.

Its really sad. Only in this thread sentiment and emotion try to win against fact and logic. Smh

See them deviating. Smh.

Dost42:
If we take our chances , we should beat city

Same line up I posted. It’s good. Tuchel know what he is doing.

BARAJ92:
This is a fallacy, Apart from Etoo and Puyol, who else was in the champions league final of 2009, the core of the 2006 were not in the club anymore.

So it was pep that debuted messi, xavi, Marquez, Valdez, gudjohnson. etc.

This line up will not be bad against man city

BARAJ92:
Really, Madrid was Under dog in the champions league with Kaka, C. Ronaldo, Di Maria, Ozil and Khedira at their peak, Ramos, Carvajal. Madrid were under performing in champions league, they were never an under dog.

An under dog is a team that has less quality players against a superior team. Madrid team that lost to Lyon was far superior to it.

How was those players performing before mou.

BARAJ92:
Why are top Clubs with the money not going for Mourinho, Is it Guardiola fault that top clubs are always coming for him.
Your Mourinho has just six league trophies and two champions league trophy in over 20 years of being a manager while Guardiola has 8 league trophies in just 12 years of being a manager and same number of champions leagues trophy.

In over 11 seasons of managing a premier League club, Mourinho has won just 10 national trophies in England while Pep has won 8 trophies in less than 5 seasons in England after dominating Mourinho in Spain.

Pep has more individual world club coach of the year than Mourinho. Pre-2011 Mourinho might have been rated higher than Guardiola in terms of trophies or greatness but Guardiola has achieved more than Mourinho, after he won his treble with Inter which was an unprecedented feat. Guardiola is currently better than Mourinho, No reasonable top coach who choose Mourinho over Guardiola now. Things could change in future has football is dynamic and not static.

Mourinho is more of a past glory coach, just like Ancelloti etc.

Ole is more of a rookie coach in a past glory club(Man Utd) given the task to build the team back to his glory days just like AC Milan will be happy to be back in the champions League.

Pep refuse to take a task with limited budget so as not to be exposed and it’s working for him.

BARAJ92:
Why are top Clubs with the money not going for Mourinho, Is it Guardiola fault that top clubs are always coming for him.
Your Mourinho has just six league trophies and two champions league trophy in over 20 years of being a manager while Guardiola has 8 league trophies in just 12 years of being a manager and same number of champions leagues trophy.

In over 11 seasons of managing a premier League club, Mourinho has won just 10 national trophies in England while Pep has won 8 trophies in less than 5 seasons in England after dominating Mourinho in Spain.

Pep has more individual world club coach of the year than Mourinho. Pre-2011 Mourinho might have been rated higher than Guardiola in terms of trophies or greatness but Guardiola has achieved more than Mourinho, after he won his treble with Inter which was an unprecedented feat. Guardiola is currently better than Mourinho, No reasonable top coach who choose Mourinho over Guardiola now. Things could change in future has football is dynamic and not static.

Mourinho is more of a past glory coach, just like Ancelloti etc.

Ole is more of a rookie coach in a past glory club(Man Utd) given the task to build the team back to his glory days just like AC Milan will be happy to be back in the champions League.

So you are counting Bayern liga as league trophies. Lol.
Pep always run from difficult jobs. He said chelsea needed 10 players before they can compete for the league, meanwhile Conte won with same players he met.

Jodera:
so cos of that, they are always underdog entering the new champions league season?

Can we check their uefa rankings and seedings during those 6 seasons? Or you feel a top ranked team can also be an underdog?

They were under dog to win ucl then. Stop confusing yourself. The fact that a club is big doesn’t mean they can’t be under dog in a tournament if they are known to be struggling at it and we have superior team that are favorite.

Expert17:
No.

They were underdog when they won it in 2012, you can't be wrong for calling them same if they win it this year.

(Note: underdog for winning not qualifying)

Thank you bro for this clarification.

KingAlabi:
So he won the "I made 3 semifinals in 3 years" trophy ?

Thats progress. Can you call pep stay in Bayern a progress.

Jodera:
so cos of that, they are always underdog entering the new champions league season?

Can we check their uefa rankings and seedings during those 6 seasons? Or you feel a top ranked team can also be an underdog?

They were struggling in ucl and there were teams better than them then.

Jodera:
he signed IBRA and Villa in his first season??

*taking notes* I'm learning bro

You didn’t “and then” in my statement, to tell you that he sold ibra and then signed villa.

Jodera:
it is perfectly @ the bolded.

Liverpool aren't in form this season, but nobody will term them underdog in this season's champions league

Because it’s just this season. Meanwhile, Real Madrid was getting knocked out for 6 consecutive seasons.

Jodera:
Nobody is comparing mou and guardiola. If you say Mou is greater than guardiola, that's another argument entirely.

The koko on ground is that Mou didn't take difficult jobs at Chelsea, inter and Madrid you lots are painting for us

Yes he did take a difficult job in those clubs compare to pep.
Since mou left inter how are they faring in ucl. Before mou how were they faring.

Chelsea won their first epl after 50 years.

Real Madrid were struggling in ucl for 6 years before mou, when he came he made 3 semis in his 3 years.

KingAlabi:
Are you say inter is an underdog too?

In ucl they were then.

Jodera:
okayy... So guardiola that won ucl in 2009 didn't have a difficult job cos of the UCL they won in 2006.

But mourinho that won league in 2012 took a difficult job from same team that won it 2008.

Nice one, nice nice one

You can not confuse me with your twist and turn ok.
Your first paragraph, 80 percent of those players that won it in 2006 were still present when pep took over.

Your second paragraph, no one was talking about Real Madrid form in the league but in ucl. They were underperforming in ucl for 6 seasons in a role before mou. Mou was signed to challenge Barcelona and also to improve their ucl campaign.

Jodera:
You can't have world class players and still be termed "underdogs " Granted, you might not be termed favorite to win the UCL but you're definitely not underdogs.

Even PSG or 3-4 seasons ago aren't underdogs. Even man city of 2012/13 wasn't underdog wen they finished 3rd in the group. Do you know what "underdog" means?

Its not about world class players but the form of the team in the tournament.

Jodera:
Pep is hailed same way mourinho was hailed then. Cos they're winning trophies

Nobody claimed pep took over a difficult job. And nobody should say same for mourinho too wen we know it's not true

It is true that mou did something extraordinary with teams like inter Milan and Porto. In terms of achievement mou>>pep due to the way the former achieved his.

KingAlabi:
Let mou do the Porto magic again na

Did you know Nottingham forest have a champions league ?

What will we say about the coach?

Mou did it with two clubs. When will pep do his, at least once.

Jodera:
What budget did pep has at barca 2008/2009 season? Especially seeing this same Barcelona finished 4th the previous season

When Pep came he signed quality players like ibra and then David villa. The personnel were always there for Barca, Pep did nothing extraordinary.

Jodera:
What budget did pep has at barca 2008/2009 season? Especially seeing this same Barcelona finished 4th the previous season

Barca won ucl in 2006, they had the players then it was just indiscipline from few players that resulted to the sack of rijkaard.

Expert17:
Pep has done nothing too....

Why is pep running from a task job. He said chelsea needed 10 players before he can win epl but Conte won it with moses and Alonso. He refused Man U job due to strict policy and limited budget. When will he take a task job like mou and do something special with them. Any coach can win epl witn unlimited budget. Raumdeuter Dey shout 100 points like say same mou nor win with 100 points with Real Madrid. I don’t like mou tactics but in terms of achievement give it to the man, he is above pep hands down. Remove Bayern liga from pep trophy cabinet cos any manager can win that league with Bayern.

Jodera:
money with the budget of a country can solve that. That's the reason man city are top now and mancini won with man city with such budget. Any top coach can do what mou did. If it was even klopp league win at Dortmund I for agree.


When you have nobody competing with you in the league, a top coach can always go far in champions league. Anytime a league is competitive, mou can never win the champions league. Reason he never reached a final in England in UCL. The only time he won a European cup in England, he has to drop out of top 4

It happens. Man city was dominating the league with guardiola still getting knocked out with Monaco and Lyons of the world. But nobody with his right thinking mind will always call man city underdogs. Do you even know what underdog means?

So it's only man u there's toxicity?
With good striker like lukaku, mkhitaryan, pogba et al. Yet na 6th and 8th he can get with those squads with his 2 out of 3 seasons there.

Ogbeni... My stance is Mourinho was a top coach and he won trophies. Fine

But don't overplay his achievement like say na small clubs him use win all those trophies (aside Porto at least)

Thank God you use aside Porto. When will pep do his porto magic. Why is he running from jobs with strict policy and limited budget or from struggling teams.

Jodera:
money with the budget of a country can solve that. That's the reason man city are top now and mancini won with man city with such budget. Any top coach can do what mou did. If it was even klopp league win at Dortmund I for agree.


When you have nobody competing with you in the league, a top coach can always go far in champions league. Anytime a league is competitive, mou can never win the champions league. Reason he never reached a final in England in UCL. The only time he won a European cup in England, he has to drop out of top 4

It happens. Man city was dominating the league with guardiola still getting knocked out with Monaco and Lyons of the world. But nobody with his right thinking mind will always call man city underdogs. Do you even know what underdog means?

So it's only man u there's toxicity?
With good striker like lukaku, mkhitaryan, pogba et al. Yet na 6th and 8th he can get with those squads with his 2 out of 3 seasons there.

Ogbeni... My stance is Mourinho was a top coach and he won trophies. Fine

But don't overplay his achievement like say na small clubs him use win all those trophies (aside Porto at least)

Why then are you guys now hailing pep for it. When will pep take over a task job.