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Ballzproblem2:
messi I already hated from , Ronaldo fans and mbappe fanbois, no what he does people we still hating is part of life and I doubt he cares ,he has his friends and family that lives him genuinely,things going well for him in life ,you think he cares what teenagers online thinks?

Not from cr7 teenagers online I’m talking of French FA, psg and some of the supporters. Messi is still in psg.

Ballzproblem2:
don't care ,en don win be say en don we , anything wey happen to am now won't affect him really much ,he is at the end of his career,what's the worst that can happen

I don’t want his action to bring hate to Messi. Messi is my concern.

andrewbaba44:
How was he wrong?

I know you are trying to be sincere

Martinez was wrong according to everyone who dont like Argentina ,but they cheer amrabat for posting this on his Insta story

Do you know what burning someone’s picture means? Both are wrong.

Ballzproblem2:
as e dey sweet us e dey pain Dem,as e dey pain Dem e dey sweet us

Martinez was wrong. Let call a spade a spade.

andrewbaba44:
Fifa 11 na dead talk and agenda

He won more trophies than them

Show me makalele World Cup trophy ?

Show me kante European championship

I haven’t seen you trolling busi though

Like I said those are team success, football is not lawn tennis. If he wasn’t individually recognized while Barca and Spain were winning those trophies what does that tell you about him.

andrewbaba44:
They started it ,they won’t keep Barca legends like busi out of their mouths

League titles ,international trophies, champions league ,club World Cup ,busquets have won more than their legends ,they should learn to choose who to troll wisely .

How does team success that you didn’t even make fifa 11 for once make him better than makelele or Kante. Bousquet was a carry along in those trophies.

Messi scored his 91 goal today in 2012. Below are the highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvu1hCE__9c

ThierryJay:
Nah this capping is too much.

Messi won best player award in 2 Copas (2015 and 2021). He actually won a third in 2016 (when he scored 6 goals) but he rejected it and it was given to Sanchez.

Best player in 2 World cups which even Pele could not achieve.

Best player in Olympic 2008.

So how would you objectively call a six-time international tournament best player a "flop in too many international tournaments" I guess in your dictionary, Mbappe flopped as well in this World Cup just because he didnt win.

Instead of you to own up to your own prior admissions about the quality of Pele's goal statistics back in 2010 you are trying to save face with some disjointed clarifications when confronted with your about-turn like Piers Morgan. Who says you could not have hopped on the Pendu train sometimes after 2011 to warrant your subsequent comments? At least Piers was honest enough to admit that.

Ibime go change mouth in the future. He is a nostalgia man so can’t still believe messi is now rated above pele.

Debroslink:
I don't care if Pele won golden ball and golden Boot at COPA. The main point is that he lost and couldn't add COPA to his CV. Even when Messi lost to Chile, he still won the golden ball.

Ronaldo has 5 UCL against Messi's 4,yet no one in his right senses can place Ronaldo above Messi anymore. Or can you place Cafu above Messi because he has 2 WCs?

At the end of the day, pair Pele and Messi's career together, Pele will dwarf over Messi.

Messi @ 35, WC title with best player. Still playing top level football.
Pele @ 35, playing retirement package soccer in US.

Be patient with Ibime, he will change mouth soon and confess that Messi is the greatest footballer of all time.

Ballzproblem2:
the way Brazilians are angry we got Andrey for £20m you will think the money will reach everybody,them like money pass my Igbo brothers, anyways welcome Santos, can't stand jorginho in that Midfield anymore

I am yet to know the guy’s actual position, is it CM, LM, CDM or box to box type?

This is the greatest banter in football history, I mean everywhere you go cr7 fan are being molested with bants. Lol

Arizoner:
next time leave god out of this. God doesn't watch football. He has pressing issues to attend to.

See God PA. Lol

Phraser:
Bla, bla, bla. More condescension from someone who thinks you do not know football if you are not 150 years old. I'm a Barça fan, and you think I wouldn't know of R9's goal?

But that's not the point. The question is: which of Pele's goals remains a part of modern-day pop culture, just like Maradona's solo run against England or Zidane's volley against Bayer Leverkusen?

No one cares if he was the first to dribble on the moon. We are talking about his greatness/legacy/popularity/impact. You say he has more than Messi. So which of his goals are instantly recognizable by many in pop culture today?

Whats ibime’s metrics in rating pele ahead of Messi if I may ask? Three wc trophy which is a team success and he was carried to two. A solo goal? Talent? Impact? lol. Ibime let it go bruv.

*light weed*.

Arizoner:
stop mentioning the name of god in vain. pagan

Of course I’m thanking the creator for Messi’s triumphant at just concluded wc but because you are blinded by hate you couldn’t comprehend. Nor let hate kee you, take it easy on yourself.

A40:
I gave you two players that actually did the carrying with tangible evidence don't tell me about a man that scored 1 goal in 13 matches leading anything. That's disrespectful to the likes of Rebic, Mandzukic, Perisic that were doing the lifting

Portugal have underperformed too, especially in 2014, and to an extent 2018 but Ronaldo scored 4 of their 5 goals. And this is supposed to be a stacked Portugal team like you lot swear they are. And yet 1 man scored 80% of their goals

As for Croatia they won 4 penalty shootouts. How can you with a straight face tell me Modric did any leading with a team that won 4 penalty shootouts!! You guys should fear God

Modric was the best player of the tournament hence the works carried. Cr7 couldn’t lead his team to semi or final

No fugazi

A40:
Remind me how many goals and assists Modric provided.

And don't tell me he's a midfielder. Wesley Sneijder scored 5 goals from midfield, Lothar Matthaus scored 4 as a libero

Whats the primary job of a CM? Does Croatia have more talent than Portugal? What stop your cr7 who is a goal machine from leading his team to final or semi?

forgiveness:
Who teĺl say na one game Pele take win wc?

Argentina is what? You want to make excuses for Messi, abi?

Won two ojoro best player wey Blatter FIFA confirmed it was a big mistake.

Pele was carried to two wc win, he only did better in one.

andrewbaba44:


When the Netherlands equalized 2-2 the kind shout and vibration tension me ,even the game no tension me reach like that

That final come worst

All these drama made Messi wc win memorable and defeated all the agenda of the tournament being rigged for him. Is our God not wonderful.

andrewbaba44:
Ronaldo fans

Omo cr7 just gather toxic people as fan. Lol

raumdeuter:
Hensben you wanted my opinion

See below

https://www.nairaland.com/430183/calling-lionel-messi-greatest-player/1#5892903

Thank you for this piece egbon.

Raumdeuter-
[b]Pele himself never singlehandedly win a world cup he was just part of the team.

In 1958 he was a 17yr old and Didi, Zagalo and Vava were greater than him in the Brazilian set up

In 1962 it was Garrinchas world cup with help from Zito and Vava. Only 2 players can be said to have won the world cup single handedly Garrincha 1962 and Maradona 1986

1970 was an all star team, Jaizinho, Carlos Alberto, Tostao, Gerson.

The Pele talk reminds me of old men in Nigeria who would always say "In the days of Odegbami and thunder Balogun" Football of those days are not technical at all, nothing like tactics, Its basically everybody enter the field. It was reported that the Brazilian team of 1982 even the keeper can dribble.

Pele na Bad belle dey worry am SIMPLE!!!! And anything pele says should be taken opposite. he say an African country winning the world cup before the end of last Century and it never happened, He saw godwin okpara winning Player of the year: the guy dey jail now, He said Nicky Butt and Emile Heskey would be the players of the tourney of japan Korea 2002 and they were dud throughout

Scolari once said If you are preparing a team, Ask for Peles advice and do the exact opposite. Anyone Pele recommends as striker should be the goalkeeper and anyone he says would be the star should be dropped!!![/b]

OhBritannia:
How the argument went from messi must win the world cup first to be the greatest of all time To Pele has three world cups so he is greater than Messi

This is how GOD confuses haters

It is shameful honestly and Ibime went so low this time.

Everything nor be nostalgia. I have great respect for the legendary Pele he is an icon, but Messi is the greatest football player of all time.

raumdeuter:
In the days of Maradona vs Pele GOAT argument
I used to support and argue for Maradona being greater than Pele

And my arguments stem from Pele being part of a Galactico all star team vs Maradona who was part of a mediocre team

Now Messi has now surpassed Maradona.

So how can I twist to say Pele who I argued was less than Maradona is now greater than Messi?

Good clarification from you baba, I got your message.

Ibime:
Lies

He was the best player in 2 seperate World Cups

Not true

Ibime:
Even if you are deliberately lazy, the 1970 World Cup is available in colour and on all media platforms

You are being deliberately foolish claiming a player with 3 World Cups, 12 non penalty goals, 10 assists in 14 games has no argument against a player with 8 non penalty goals and 8 assists in 25 games

Deliberately foolish claiming a player with 7 Balon d'Ors without playing Europe has no claim against a player with 7 Balon d'Ors in Europe

Deliberately foolish claiming a player with 750 non penalty goals in just 812 games despite playing midfield half his career has no claim against a forward with 682 non penalty goals in 1002 games

Deliberately foolish claiming a guy with 7 World Cup semifinal and final non-penalty goals has no claim against someone with just one

Pele has stood the test of time for 60 years. E no get one angle Messi fit use against Pele

Overall, messi is the greatest player to ever play this game. Pele only shone in one wc.

raumdeuter:
I am the greatest of all time

Lol you nor be footballer

Ibime:
QF goal, Semifinal hattrick and final brace is one game to you?

1970 he was Golden Ball with 4 goals and 6 assists

Messi was the one carried by Goalkeeper and everybody knows Messi 2014 golden ball is a scam. Name one goal or assist Messi provided in knockout stage of 2014

Messi has been a World Cup flop his whole career, only to be lucky to have a penalty saving GK in his last WC, and given 5 penalties, all of a sudden you want raise shoulder with the Greatest World Cup player of all time

Ibime rest. Pele was good in one wc, he was carried in the remaining two.

raumdeuter:
What do you think of Martinez penalty stopping styles where he follows the ball most times instead of gambling

Even the kicks Mbappe scored he followed them

Are you for or against messi being the best player this game have ever had.

Expert17:
Messi is eternal and bigger than any player in football history.

Know this and know peace

Make them dey play

forgiveness:
Has Messi won 3 world cups?

In 1958, he scored in the knockout stages including a hattrick in the final at 17 years old yet he was carried. Won the best young player of the tournament (he was actually the best).

In 1962, he played the 2 matches before he was taken off due to injury.

1970, the best player of the tournament.

Yet, he was carried.

Your first point, you don’t use one game to win wc. Messi has been best player in two wc. He was carried to two of his wc which is fact. Brazil is the biggest footballing nation. On individual level, messi is the greatest footbalrt of all time.

I never knew messi is this intimidating to cr7 fan, even offline. Where I for Dey enjoy now people just mention messi see the way cr7 felt threatened and silent by talking on a low tune. Lol Messi you do this one.