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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:51am On Dec 20, 2022
raumdeuter:
Messi won the world cup with this first 11?
Look at them

Martinez - Aston Villa
Molina - Atletico
Tagliafico - Lyon
Otamendi - Sold by Man City 4yrs ago now in Benfica
Fernandez - Benfica
De Paul - Atletico
McAllister - Brighton
DiMaria - Juventus
Alvarez - Man City benchwarmer


Of these players only Enzo Fernandez Otamendi and Julian Alvarez are going to play in the CL when it resumes in February.

History will be kind to Messi for carrying these players to a world cup
You've spoken well this time. But i thought you are the other guy fan.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:19pm On Dec 19, 2022
OhBritannia:
Lol you are delusional.
Better footballers than mbappe have played for Madrid in the past and Barcelona still didn't fall.

Mbappe is just 24 years of age, wait till when he is 30 before you start calling him the best in his era.
Football is about longevity and not by sentiment and emotions.

If you think other young stars that are 21 to 25 will just sit and watch Mbappe then you are a joker of the century.

Don't start hatching your eggs before you lay them bro.

You have no idea the numerous young talents In world football right now and France might not even win the world cup again till Mbappe retires from football.
Mbappe wining the champions league doesn't make him the best in his era, you are talking as if you know what the future holds.
Look at the young players In Germany, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, even halland, foden and co.
I am not saying mbappe is not good but don't put a crown on his head yet when he hasn't even tasted the waters.

Mbappe at a young age might have scored many goals and win the world cup but a 24 years old Neymar, Messi, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo were all better than mbappe and that's a fact except if you want to argue with sentiment.

Bro!! Let me cap you the legit.

Mbappe spends all his young years In a french league which was a mediocre league until Neymar went there.

Mbappe scoring that many goals in the french league can't be compared to young Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo who played for the hardest leagues in the world and faced the hardest teams in the world in the UEFA champions league.

Put a 23 years old Messi in the french league and he will score more than 70 goals a season and that's a fact.

My whole point is that, don't put mbappe yet at the high pedestal.

He hasn't test the waters yet, after 5 years from now then we will see if he is the best in his era.
Well said, people too quick to get excited over a moment.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:15pm On Dec 19, 2022
akwesenana:
I don dey talk say Mbappe na French Rashford before bossu shut me up.

As for all of you thinking of a Haaland v Mbappe debate, tell your MCM to atleast qualify for an international tournament. grin grin
Football doesn’t work that way. Halaand might even first mbappe win ballon d’or. Every year nor be World Cup.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:13pm On Dec 18, 2022
Expert17:
France come back canceled the FIFA fixing allegations, as FIFA agent (referee) awarded 2 PKs to France.

cheesy cheesy

Abi Lloris sell match?
This is my happiness, France got two pk so rigging allegation cancelled.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:12pm On Dec 18, 2022
Best World Cup final ever or Ibime was there any World Cup hotter than this?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:11pm On Dec 18, 2022
Messi won under 20 wc
Olympics
Copa America
And World Cup for Argentina and he was the best player of the tournament while at it.
We are not discusssing club legend here.
Make I hear pim.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:10pm On Dec 18, 2022
I don show. Make I hear Pim I’m spending the next one week on nairaland for anybody that mention the other guy near Messi will be in trouble.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:32pm On Dec 18, 2022
akwesenana:
In South East Asia.
Funny enough, Iniesta is 38, Modric is 37.
Iniesta is a product of pep system, outside this system, him and bousquet are nothing. Someone that was always played as wing for Spain is who they are comparing to Xavi.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 1:53pm On Dec 18, 2022
popizaino:
I believed it yesterday today tomorrow and forever. Any problem?
dey play just dey play, someone that was always pushed to the wing in Spanish national team is better than xavi. Most of you don’t know football or you just like to be sentimental.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 1:51pm On Dec 18, 2022
popizaino:
Andres iniesta wasn't in the midfield as at 2008,that's why he couldn't displace Modric who was already playing his natural position. When pep Guardiola came in and changed his position to the midfield,he became dominant such that he made every team of the tournament and made also made his team dominant such that they didn't need a penalty shoot out to beat a pirlo-less Italy.
Someone that was always pushed to the wing make midfield dominance. Lol

Good you know pep’s system is what kept him relevant, no wonder he mostly played in the wing for Spain.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:47am On Dec 18, 2022
Modric has been killing it from way back. Where is iniesta?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:34am On Dec 18, 2022
Havertz10:
Havertz is leaving. I called out lakaka, sterling, kk and auba from day 1

Has nothing to do with Havertz, a bad business decision is a bad business decision

If nkuku struggles, which is highly likely, we would have another sterling on our hands, old and unwanted.
Ok who would you want us to sign?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:19pm On Dec 17, 2022
Ihebu4chelsea:
Omoh.... I dont know our problem! Chelsea style go even make haaland and lewandoski useless!
We have to change our CDM so that attackers can be themselves in their primary role without thinking of tracking back and overworking.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:17pm On Dec 17, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Ziyech is really a good player

Chelsea style Dey do some players strong thing
No strong and technical CDM that will allow these attackers to be themselves.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:38pm On Dec 17, 2022
Itsrm:
Not withstanding.

Messi has given it all for football and we are all fortunate to have witnessed this one in a life time genius. A world cup trophy is the least he deserves. Anyone who loves football and has watched Messi throughout his career will want him to win it.
True though.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:29pm On Dec 17, 2022
Itsrm:
Any lover of football will wish Messi wins the world cup. Those guys hoping France wins are enemies of the round leather game
They are Ronaldo fans. lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 2:20pm On Dec 17, 2022
Bimffo:
Nkukun.

SIGNED SEALED DELIVERED.

I just pray to god that bundesliga have not scammed us again with the Germany fraud tax.

He must turn out to be good because if the opposite is the case, I may become depressed o.
Tell your club to get a CDM and a creative midfielder then you can see the best of your attackers.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 6:46am On Dec 17, 2022
airmark:
That's my prayer after watching his clips.
He was born in Africa too so what's his real age?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:34am On Dec 16, 2022
nateevs:
Checked Fofana out and we might be in to something. You don't have skill, balance, guile and poise like that by accident. You either have it or you don't. He has all the basics he needs to succeed in the PL. Let's see if he has the required mentality.

I see a lot talking about how he's the new Drogba. He's not. If anything, he reminds me of Berbatov .....just quicker and stronger.
Hope he is not another Bony Wilfred.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:15pm On Dec 13, 2022
MorataFC:
This is really bad
I just lost my Mother
Sorry bro, God is your strength.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 7:13pm On Dec 13, 2022
popizaino:
If I prove to you that Valdez wasn't benefit boy now,you will turn amala.
I call them benefit boys because they were poor at their primary output.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 11:06am On Dec 13, 2022
TLona1:
Are you sure about this?
or 150 plus
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 9:40am On Dec 13, 2022
airmark:
But we won Ucl with him. Is it Sterling that will win Epl and Ucl for us?
I don’t even fancy Sterling like that but he is more better to what we have before he came hence my support for his signing.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:19am On Dec 13, 2022
Jokerman:
So who to blame, coach or Ronaldo??

Also didn't Leao enter, what happened?
Leao entered late, he was needed before cr7
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m):
airmark:
About to lose Pulisic to Newcastle. I hope we will use the money to buy an upgrade, and not settle for a washed Sterling.

Pulisic was instrumental to Madrid's crushing that year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GgWzv6KNvk
He should go, the guy is not enforcing play as a winger, always falling to the ground. We can’t win epl with players like Pulisic and Jorginho.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m):
popizaino:
I know iniesta's job without you telling me. Without iniesta in Barca and spain they would retort to a completely different style of chance creation than the usual tiki taka and that would put more pressure on their midfield. This thing is so obvious now.
Iniesta was not the brain behind tiki taka, he was just there to drive the ball to attack but was unproductive while at it. If he was that important to ball possession he won’t be occasionally moved to the wing. Iniesta, Bousquet and Valdez were benefit boys in a Spanish style of play.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m):
popizaino:
The reason why we dominated possession was simply because of Deco not any Lampard anywhere. Deco brought that Barca style that brought about calmness to our midfield with his ability to hold the ball under pressure without losing it. Nothing like Lampard.
Good so same apply to Xavi and not because of iniesta. But the difference is Lampard was useful upfront unlike iniesta that messi was doing his job, iniesta was just there for flip and turn aka shakushaku.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:56am On Dec 13, 2022
popizaino:
The reason why xavi was so dominant with possession is because of Barcelona style of play and iniesta simple. I have explained it my point on Andrea Pirlo.
Lies, Xavi was tiki taka, when he left barca possession stat reduced, you will not know because messi was still winning decisive games.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:42am On Dec 13, 2022
A40:
That is because he is the Greatest passenger of all time. Holy shit

Can you believe this joker did not score a single goal in both Euro triumphs. The deeper I dig the worse it is for your boy

You think if Muller had Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Silva, Villa, Fabregas, Torres, Xavi carrying him for club and country he wouldn't have 2 Euros and 4 CLs
Iniesta na benefit boys, his flip and turn after others have done the job gave him an undeserved recognition. A CAM that played with messi who has 700+ Goals doesn’t have 100 assist.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:35am On Dec 13, 2022
MorataFC:
Rhere is no lover of football that will call either Iniesta or Xavi a fraud without a sentimental reason, both are geniuses on the field of play and there the players any club could die for to have in their team.
For Debroslink to say Iniesta gave Xavi a career and for Ibime to praise Xavi over Iniesta shows that both are good but every one with his own cup of tea. grin
The question is who is better among the 2?

Both are good and complement each other.
If iniesta don’t have a player like messi with that number of goals his genius play would’ve become a curse because who will be scoring and winning difficult games.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 3:28am On Dec 13, 2022
popizaino:
We will come back to Fabregas/matic/Lampard matter when the time comes for now let dismiss whatever hope you have that a skill-less Lampard will thrive in a typical Spanish system that required every player to at least to be very good at holding the ball under pressure. That is not a system Lampard will thrive but expose himself.
But Rakitic thrive there. Probably you were not a chelsea fan when Lampard played for us, he is not your regular CAM, he was intelligent, strong and efficient.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by hensben(m): 8:28pm On Dec 12, 2022
Kilishihunter:
Hope you know unless you're a fixed CAM/10 on paper, you're to still come back to the midfield at intervals even if you are the more advanced of the two central midfielders in a 4-3-3 format so if you think iniesta was almost non virtually in the midfield or not covering for xavi when he went further forward, You lie
Every number 10 cover for their CM when he move forward occasionally. Lampard played box to box at later stage and was still racking up goals and assist.

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