raumdeuter: Messi won the world cup with this first 11? Look at them
Martinez - Aston Villa Molina - Atletico Tagliafico - Lyon Otamendi - Sold by Man City 4yrs ago now in Benfica Fernandez - Benfica De Paul - Atletico McAllister - Brighton DiMaria - Juventus Alvarez - Man City benchwarmer
Of these players only Enzo Fernandez Otamendi and Julian Alvarez are going to play in the CL when it resumes in February.
History will be kind to Messi for carrying these players to a world cup
You've spoken well this time. But i thought you are the other guy fan.
OhBritannia: Lol you are delusional. Better footballers than mbappe have played for Madrid in the past and Barcelona still didn't fall.
Mbappe is just 24 years of age, wait till when he is 30 before you start calling him the best in his era. Football is about longevity and not by sentiment and emotions.
If you think other young stars that are 21 to 25 will just sit and watch Mbappe then you are a joker of the century.
Don't start hatching your eggs before you lay them bro.
You have no idea the numerous young talents In world football right now and France might not even win the world cup again till Mbappe retires from football. Mbappe wining the champions league doesn't make him the best in his era, you are talking as if you know what the future holds. Look at the young players In Germany, Spain, Brazil, Argentina, even halland, foden and co. I am not saying mbappe is not good but don't put a crown on his head yet when he hasn't even tasted the waters.
Mbappe at a young age might have scored many goals and win the world cup but a 24 years old Neymar, Messi, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo were all better than mbappe and that's a fact except if you want to argue with sentiment.
Bro!! Let me cap you the legit.
Mbappe spends all his young years In a french league which was a mediocre league until Neymar went there.
Mbappe scoring that many goals in the french league can't be compared to young Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo who played for the hardest leagues in the world and faced the hardest teams in the world in the UEFA champions league.
Put a 23 years old Messi in the french league and he will score more than 70 goals a season and that's a fact.
My whole point is that, don't put mbappe yet at the high pedestal.
He hasn't test the waters yet, after 5 years from now then we will see if he is the best in his era.
Well said, people too quick to get excited over a moment.
Messi won under 20 wc Olympics Copa America And World Cup for Argentina and he was the best player of the tournament while at it. We are not discusssing club legend here. Make I hear pim.
akwesenana: In South East Asia. Funny enough, Iniesta is 38, Modric is 37.
Iniesta is a product of pep system, outside this system, him and bousquet are nothing. Someone that was always played as wing for Spain is who they are comparing to Xavi.
popizaino: I believed it yesterday today tomorrow and forever. Any problem?
dey play just dey play, someone that was always pushed to the wing in Spanish national team is better than xavi. Most of you don’t know football or you just like to be sentimental.
popizaino: Andres iniesta wasn't in the midfield as at 2008,that's why he couldn't displace Modric who was already playing his natural position. When pep Guardiola came in and changed his position to the midfield,he became dominant such that he made every team of the tournament and made also made his team dominant such that they didn't need a penalty shoot out to beat a pirlo-less Italy.
Someone that was always pushed to the wing make midfield dominance. Lol
Good you know pep’s system is what kept him relevant, no wonder he mostly played in the wing for Spain.
Messi has given it all for football and we are all fortunate to have witnessed this one in a life time genius. A world cup trophy is the least he deserves. Anyone who loves football and has watched Messi throughout his career will want him to win it.
nateevs: Checked Fofana out and we might be in to something. You don't have skill, balance, guile and poise like that by accident. You either have it or you don't. He has all the basics he needs to succeed in the PL. Let's see if he has the required mentality.
I see a lot talking about how he's the new Drogba. He's not. If anything, he reminds me of Berbatov .....just quicker and stronger.
popizaino: I know iniesta's job without you telling me. Without iniesta in Barca and spain they would retort to a completely different style of chance creation than the usual tiki taka and that would put more pressure on their midfield. This thing is so obvious now.
Iniesta was not the brain behind tiki taka, he was just there to drive the ball to attack but was unproductive while at it. If he was that important to ball possession he won’t be occasionally moved to the wing. Iniesta, Bousquet and Valdez were benefit boys in a Spanish style of play.
popizaino: The reason why we dominated possession was simply because of Deco not any Lampard anywhere. Deco brought that Barca style that brought about calmness to our midfield with his ability to hold the ball under pressure without losing it. Nothing like Lampard.
Good so same apply to Xavi and not because of iniesta. But the difference is Lampard was useful upfront unlike iniesta that messi was doing his job, iniesta was just there for flip and turn aka shakushaku.
popizaino: The reason why xavi was so dominant with possession is because of Barcelona style of play and iniesta simple. I have explained it my point on Andrea Pirlo.
Lies, Xavi was tiki taka, when he left barca possession stat reduced, you will not know because messi was still winning decisive games.
A40: That is because he is the Greatest passenger of all time. Holy shit
Can you believe this joker did not score a single goal in both Euro triumphs. The deeper I dig the worse it is for your boy
You think if Muller had Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Silva, Villa, Fabregas, Torres, Xavi carrying him for club and country he wouldn't have 2 Euros and 4 CLs
Iniesta na benefit boys, his flip and turn after others have done the job gave him an undeserved recognition. A CAM that played with messi who has 700+ Goals doesn’t have 100 assist.
MorataFC: Rhere is no lover of football that will call either Iniesta or Xavi a fraud without a sentimental reason, both are geniuses on the field of play and there the players any club could die for to have in their team. For Debroslink to say Iniesta gave Xavi a career and for Ibime to praise Xavi over Iniesta shows that both are good but every one with his own cup of tea. The question is who is better among the 2?
Both are good and complement each other.
If iniesta don’t have a player like messi with that number of goals his genius play would’ve become a curse because who will be scoring and winning difficult games.
popizaino: We will come back to Fabregas/matic/Lampard matter when the time comes for now let dismiss whatever hope you have that a skill-less Lampard will thrive in a typical Spanish system that required every player to at least to be very good at holding the ball under pressure. That is not a system Lampard will thrive but expose himself.
But Rakitic thrive there. Probably you were not a chelsea fan when Lampard played for us, he is not your regular CAM, he was intelligent, strong and efficient.
Kilishihunter: Hope you know unless you're a fixed CAM/10 on paper, you're to still come back to the midfield at intervals even if you are the more advanced of the two central midfielders in a 4-3-3 format so if you think iniesta was almost non virtually in the midfield or not covering for xavi when he went further forward, You lie
Every number 10 cover for their CM when he move forward occasionally. Lampard played box to box at later stage and was still racking up goals and assist.