₦airaland Forum

Dedetwo:
In my neck of the wood, Ikwerre does not exist in reality. So what a freaking business do I have with Ikwerre? The so-called Ikwerre can claim to be Fulani and I shall not give a ratass.

We are on same page. In the whole of my life, I've never been to Aba before, as popular as the place is. Except a particular social event that took me to Imo, I've never been to Igboland. I usually see Igbos in PH as nuisance in Ikwerreland.

Kingxway:
I doubt if you are an Ikwerre person. Ikwerre is not made up nine dialects, it's made up of four family dialects, which means, these four dialects speak similar Igbo language with little difference among themselves.

I have taken time to study about Igbo dialects. They all have family dialects, that's a group of them speak a similar dialect with little differences.

I really doubt if are an Ikwerre person or even from Rivers State because everybody from igboid ethnic group will naturally understand central Igbo.

If you know where I'm from, you wouldn't be saying this. I laugh whenever I come online and see people people say we are not Igbos... bla bla. Like seriously �

Tribe is not defined by political classification. Tribes are defined by personality, language, culture and traditions.

These are the 8 major dialects of Ikwerre.

: Apara, Ndele, Ọgbakiri, Ọbịọ, Akpor, Alụụ, Ịbaa, Elele

I don't know where you say you come from, but if you're Ikwerre you should know this.

kampari aka Chino, you will not make heaven because of these your petty lies. You littered everywhere with Amaechi projects and then give credit to Wike.

You are very Wicked.

Dedetwo:
You are hope at hand indeed. But do not let hopelessness get into your psychotic skull.

Don't get frustrated. Just mind your business and leave Ikwerres to be whoever they want to be. thanks.

Cardi B, fresh light skin, see wetin my fellow man dey fvck.

Kingxway:
Lol... Still the same. Igbos have different dialects. They all understand themselves. Every Igboid group in Rivers and Delta states will naturally understand the central Igbo when being spoken to them. These people are purely same people in all aspects. You can't differentiate them. You really can't

Ikwerre isn't a dialect. Ikwerre is made up of at least 9 dialectalal areas. Ikwerre isn't Igbo, though Igbo's might understand us, we hardly understand them.

buygala:
Nice one

Even though since there is no Brochure/Table of events, how do people like me who attend burials mainly for the food know when 'Item 7' is due so that we can plan our gatecrashing accordingly?

Nowadays refreshment is no longer item7, sometimes e dey reach item12.

bigfish3k:
the question i want ask u is :
why is it that people refer to u as igbo before u start explaining urself that u are not igbo
how many people will u be explaining to?
is it not better u accept the obvious identity and move on

They refer to us as Igbo because of the similarity if names. but every such reference is done in error and we are quick to correct and reassure people that we aren't Igbo. It isn't actually a difficult task. very easy.

bigfish3k:
ok i rest my case but the part of mutilating the igbo language is not possible. it has come to stay

What you refer as Mutilation is referred to us as Adaptation. We have adapted our language to reflect existing realities. Our language structure was revised and we arrived at what you now see and read as Ikwerre language.

Etche, Ngwa, Abiriba, Arochukwu etc could do so for themselves if they so wish. It is an open field for any people with interest.

Dedetwo:
You are our Afoanu.

You are our Anu ohia.

Kingxway:
What you people don't understand is that, as long as Ikwerres or any other Igboid ethnic group retain their version of Igbo language and culture, they will forever be regarded as Igbos. This argument will never end forever and ever as long as they retain their Igbo language and culture. It's natural for Igbos to see them as one of them. Igbos are businessmen. They don't go about claiming people. Igbos have never claimed any close tribes like Effik, Idoma, Ibibio, etc. They claim this people because they speak same language and practice same culture. This argument will never end, unless this people drop their language and culture which is not possible. A black man may claim he is not black but his skin remains black. From everything, these people are Igbos

We didn't retain anything, we have already evolved a new spelling of our language names

eg Dike Oha (Igbo) ---- Dikne Ohna(Ikwerre)

bigfish3k:
i am not doubting all these recognitions just to create divisions as that is what will make SW and north happy. they are mainly for political expediencies

but naturally by culture and language - we are undivided

Political expediency or not, Ikwerre have acquired a unique sociopolitical identity. Even if it means mutilating the Igbo language to arrive at our, we will gladly do it.

Like I already maintained, water don't cross bridge for dis mata.

LadyExcellency:
Na dem betray pass.

Its not betrayal, it is called protection of interest.

When Arthur Nzeribe decided to sell Guns/Ammo to Nigeria Army to kill Biafrans, his people, he didn't call it betrayal, he called it Business.

chigoizie7:
But those people no get joy ooh.

Anyways Ghana no get celebrities. All they have is [/b]apprentice celebrities[b].

More reason the stripper didn’t notice them.

Lol, low budget celebs. Wetin Ghana do Nigerians sef.

bigfish3k:
yes

OK. Etche is also recognized as independent from Igbo. I know of Ogbakor Etche as the umbrella body then. If you guys want to join the mainstream Igbo, its all good. be assured of our best wishes.

bigfish3k:
its ok like that, i am happy for u
i am rivers too and we are somehow attached to the ikwerres , we use to be one LGA before until the seperation but nevertheless i still want to recognize myself as igbo which is what people call me from my looks, intonation and behavior even without knowing my name

Are you from Etche?

bigfish3k:
ok just that?
but i told u that there is also an igbo migration version, there even exist an igala migration version that i have read

from ur version that means u people are benins
another ikwerre persons version that i know said they are igbos and they migrated from the igbos

but from what i am seeing i tend to believe the igbo version because of the overwhelming igbo names, igbo looks, igbo stature and cultures in ikwerreland
the traces of benin is so minute that its very hard to believe the benin version

Water has already crossed the bridge.

We are now an officially recognized ethnicity from Nigerias 1970 constitution upwards. Be happy for us. It has always been what we wanted. We are still brothers tho.

es144000:
A northerner will take over

An Ikwerre man will take over.

rolly44:
NO niger delta pson will attack igbos because of amachi who sold niger delta to the north/west, it only amachi dugs in ubima,omerelu, will do that just to loot, no ijaw,akwa ibom, urhobo, itsekiri, benin, will suport aduterated aclaimed niger deltans called ikwere, we the core niger deltans refere to them as igbos, they should stop using the name of niger delta as cover up, who amachi help, dem 4 nack craze comot 4rm him head ,idiot youths.

Hahaha, core Niger Delta. Ikwerre is the corest of Niger Delta because na dem get Rivers state.

LadyExcellency:
Why not Abagworo?

Abagworo is our Ekani, our sister pikin.
Chino is Igbo, ie nwaisoma.

bigfish3k:
the same culture and language
the same looks, the same food, the same believes, the same geographical location so how then are u different

or can u state the differences?

The major difference is the original history. Ikwerres are descendants of Iwhnrohna, son of Akalaka, a prince from the Old Benin empire.

While Igbo's are the descendants of Gad, a Jew, from Isreal.

crash12345:
you Nigerians are stupid,it's just a freaking hotel room what do you mean by presidential treatment. T.I is in Ghana currently with his wife,it's no news,over 500 Hollywood celebrities are coming to Ghana this December, it's no news,Rick Ross,Beyonce are coming this December to Ghana, it's no news so what do you mean we're giving her presidential treatment when most Ghanaians don't even care about her being here.At least she's not covering her nose whilst in Ghana.

Who be dis niggah and wetin be your problem??

bigfish3k:
but u claim non igbo just to spite the igbo

the question i have for u is:
why does the non igbo riverine people refer to u people as igbos during elections and they even use it as campaign against u in elections
they mostly refer to u people as " that igbo man" even though u have been asked to claim otherwise
u can just keep deceiving urselves just to please the SW and north

why will I want to spite Igbo's. I like them a lot. i just see myself as a different ethnicity from Igbo's, regardless of similar culture and language.

immhotep:
Yes he did not call out the sai babarians
And we all know that Ikwerre is Igbo and Igbo is Ikwerre

Who is "we".

Please Ikwerre is Ikwerre, Igbo is Igbo. If in doubt, check the Nigerian constitution.

Peace.

on that day, I will be looking out for Chino.

PrecisionFx:
Ikwerre is a tribe under the igbo ethnic group.

There are only 3 ethnic groups in Nigeria.

Do the math.








""I'd say Ikwerres have sincerely and stedfastly stated during colonial times that they aren't Igbo's""

Daft lie.

There are only 3 tribes in Nigeria shows how ill-educated you are. I don't have time for people with the quality of your education.

Here we go again.

This Ikwerre is/isnt Igbo debate which has been condemned to perpetual arguing online is again tossed on the front burner, courtesy of a traditional title conferred on Wike.

As an Ikwerre, I'd say that there is a close relationship between the Igbo culture/Language and that of the Ikwerres. This is a result of the nature of interaction Ikwerres had with Igbo's and can be divided into the pre-colonial and colonial era.

In pre-colonial era, the interaction is usually attributed to factors chiefly being proximity, the settlement of large number of Aros within Ikwerre villages and communities and to a lesser extent, buying of slaves from Igbo hinterland. Let me at this point inform that Igbo's roughly outnumber Ikwerres 8 to 1. When a relatively smaller ethnicity settled close to a much larger one, they naturally run the risk of losing a good part of their language and culture to the much larger one, especially to a notoriously dominant ethnicity such as the Igbo. Ikwerres found themselves in that situation and continued with life.

Then in the colonial era, the British carved Nigeria into regions and Ikwerre was in Eastern region and Igbo as the major language was used in schools, hospitals, offices and churches and Ikwerres had no option but to learn. To give you an example, gather Igbo's and teach them Hausa in schools and use same language in churches and markets and hospitals for over 40yrs and see if you wouldn't effectively change their lives. The only adjustment th British made fo Ikwerres was introduction of Ikwerre Union Bible Bible in Churches for the Ikwerres to properly understand the word of God.

Now a certain poster Abagworo talked about sincerity in ironing out this Ikwerre/Igbo debate. on that point, I'd say Ikwerres have sincerely and stedfastly stated during colonial times that they aren't Igbo's. The British refused to listen, the British were more interested in cut-and-join administration of people. Yet, we vehemently rejected being called Igbo, we went to Willinks commission on minority ethnicities to present our case and also played actived roles for the formation of COR state. I am stating this for those who claimed Ikwerres were comfortable with being Igbo's before civil war. They can research the net and see how far we have come in our quest for distinct recognition.

We have no particular issues with Igbo's except our desire to be known as Ikwerres which w rightly are. That isn't a bad thing by any means.

We may now share same Language and Culture but our Origins ar different. And the difference In Origin also affect our difference in character as a people.

Please, Igbo's should disabuse thei minds of unnecessary sentiments and move on.

Peace.

cc: Pazienza, Osagyefo98, jimyjames et al.

MelesZenawi:
Someone from Niger delta tribe - Rivers state should come and tell me the meaning of OGBUM-NU-ABALI.



Let it not be the meaning am thinking.


Igboson1.

Good one Wike.

Make I help you, since you say you need help.


Orogbum community and Oro-abali community both merged to form the community called Ogbum-nu- abali. Roughly translated to English as Ogbum-and-abali. the "nu" is Ikwerre word for "and".

You can keep your thanks.

Wantedmiller:
Please sir..... Do patience Jona has any political relevance now?

Which south south party...... I laugh

Wike is almost done......... Wait until he finishes his second tenure. Nobody is banking on him.

Any money( River State tax payers money) he feels like he was bringing then......Oga Atiku can provide it four times.

It will be irresponsible for Wike to use our commonwealth to sponsor the PDP cos it's not his personal money but our collective held in trust by him.


That stated, I wish to inform you that Atiku does not have Rivers states money.

Firstly, there's no such thing as Buguma LGA in Rivers, it's Asari-Toru LGA with Buguma as HQ. Secondly why isn't he on shackles, aren't the police certain he's the one on the CCTV clip.


And Thirdly, may normal service resume quickly. For whatever it is worth, I decided not to contract any escort until we got a closure on this menace. I think I could do with 3 ladies to make up for lost time.

Poorboy:
Hahahhaaahhaha I understand your plight, but just imagine using the 80k. Just remove 10k and eat chicken and better beer. Then 70k remaining, change that your dirty boxers and buy some clothes with 20k.


Then 50k go still remain..... Hmmmmm I will be back


Ok I'm back since na chicken you been chew, just remove 1k may aboki cut suya give you and you buy malt to use step am down.


Na 49k remain I will be back

Ok I don still show remove just 2k send card 1k to your mum and 1k to your dad .


Na 47k still remain hmmmm, I'm eating I will be back shortly.

Make I help you small.


Make the guy for use 10K carry ashewo for d nyt, e go still remain 37K.