EyeHateGod:

Lol so now you are defending IslAm and even lying for them this is interesting Truthman2012 won't be proud of you

@bolded
Chai!!!

winner01:
Cheer up na. They cant ban the remaining 4 or more minikers all at once na.

you're turning to Naijadeyhia bit by bit

winner01:
Lol..

Did I say you are stupid? Naah.

lol you said the exact same thing

you said someone is agreeing with "my stupidity"

I replied that using the words "your stupidity" then ooopppss! I'm banned

I'm not crying anyways, just pointing things out because I know some of you that would've opened a thread for same

considering the number of such pictures I scroll past, I should have died many times over

mctowel01:

Bro, you are not alone at all.
I cant believe i understood every single thing you said. Problem with people like you is that if we emerge in a large number, the world will be cold bloody. I remember a thread by hardmirror which said that we should leave religion to stay cos religion is among a host of other things preventing your poor neighbor from attacking a rich man in the same street.
You cant easily control a society of free thinkers, infact a society of absolute free thinkers cannot survive itself.
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We still live to survive, no matter how man redefines ideas about resources. Most people in position of some high level of control of humans usually understand that there are absolute psychological traits in man and they often exploit them.

interesting

EyeHateGod:

For someone that has over 140 topics on Atheism mtchewww u are A Hypocrite

he also has over 200 topics on Islam with his 2 Truthman monickers

Luckymay:
Hppefullandlord there you go again. Now that I have finally resumed going to church after so much persuasion from mum and well wishers.. You wan scatter my brain again. People have already started tagging me a witch and that I have a marine spirit. My mom had to cry and even my reverend had to speak to me In person before I resumed church. Now you've come with these theories. But funny enough, I don't know why it's so easy for me to believe in these theories than in the doctrines. I find peace and fulfilment with these than in all those things being preached and taught in the church but I don't want to disappoint my loved ones. So I guess I will pass. But just know you have kept me in one of those moods I have been avoiding.

I would advice you keep going to church until you're not dependent on your parents like when you're on your own, being tagged witch and Miami water can lead to seriously bad consequences especially in an ultra religious country like Nigeria because most people start believing you're one

Most atheists in Nigeria profess one religion or the other for a reason

Huehuehuehuehuehue

Ranchhoddas:
Those gay people carry out their activities secretly, they can do whatever they like as long as they don't get caught. God on the other hand has 'cameras' everywhere, He even knows you'd sin before commiting the sin yet people go ahead to sin.

Exactly what I'm tryna say

A gay couple for instance can retire into their home, put on the AC, lock all doors, windows and anything that people can see them through, once all these things are done, they have close to zero chance of being caught

Compared to............

analice107:

Hahahahahahahaha. Small Pikin.
Your immediate family doesn't even know you as an atheist. Nobody sabi you.

Find out who Friederick Nietzsche was and what he predicted will happen to Christianity, and the Bible, and what later happened to him.

He didn't only died raving mad, his mansion was used as a Bible Printing press. The time he predicted that no one will see a bible much less read it, passed. That's now you'll die and the Bible let will continue to impart lives.

The today's atheists are toys when it comes to the kind that Nietzsche was. But what happened to him? He went mad, died like a dog, we bought his house till today we use it to print Bibles.

Listen boy, Christianity grows better in the face of persecution.
Christianity almost died because of the ascends of persecution, it has started again, watch out.

How did most of the twelve disciples who believed in Yahweh and Jesus fare?

https://www.nairaland.com/3014335/how-12-apostles-jesus-christ

KingEbukasBlog:


That's not the reason . Its simply grace .

There is 100 percent certainty of going to jail for 14 years for sexual relationships with the same sex in Nigeria yet homosexuals still engage in such act knowing fully well what awaits them if they're caught .

Every Christian knows Hell awaits a sinner but people hope on God's mercy and grace for another opportunity to ask for forgiveness . Haven't you heard someone say he'll give his life to Christ later on in life , let him enjoy small

You can't compare the two though

Homosexuals for instance would be very careful not to get caught

They can "reduce" their chances of being caught to a near zero by taking certain precautions; they know that if they have enough privacy, no one can possibly catch them

But in the case of people who believe in hell fire, especially Christians, you believe you can't possibly hide it from Yahweh and you can die while in the act, yet still go ahead and commit sin anyways

According to these people, they're doing nothing wrong

In fact, they believe they're doing the right thing and anyone that isn't doing like them is against "the right thing"



That's religion for you

kilo4sure:

The universe is actually quiet organized and not what we would expect to be created by time and chance only.

Bros, not every atheist accept the big bang theory bro

If you ask me how we came about, I'll simply say "I don't know" but most people just fill that gap in knowledge with an imaginary being

But like I said; the world is NOT perfect, it could be better

Efewestern:


Can you elaborate please ?..

or should i say Organized ?, maybe Perfect doesn't fit the picture.. The more i study about how our solar system operate the more i have faith in God.

Saying its "perfect" is totally wrong, you need to study more about how our solar system operates, go deeper in it and you'll know its FAR from perfect

"Well organised" can be misleading, since there's even organization in chaos if you look hard enough

lets take for example the human structure, Our Eyes.. Do you know that its current position is the best place to be, Any little shift might cause a defection, Not to talk of our body structure, You believe all these originates from nothing, C'mon bro..

You need to study a lot of other animals bro, like The dusky antechinus and others, Google is your friend

And about originating from nothing; I DON'T KNOW, but I won't fill that gap with an imaginary being either

You might be mad with religion, Even me am mad with Religion, But don't Be mad with God.. He Exists with or without u .

I am not mad with religion or god bro, that's a misconception

Efewestern:


The problem i have with Them is they equate Religion and God to be the same thing, God is Eternal, Religion is man Made..

Just look at how perfect the world is, God is Great abeg.

Bros, the world is NOT perfect

Ranchhoddas:
...and if I were to ask you how you came about this knowledge?

Excellent question

naijadeyhia:


excuse me?

You're excused

naijadeyhia:


Remember we chatted on whatsapp and i sent you some screengrabs from a certain female nairalander? Well that person whose husband was suicidal due to hardship and no job and inability to feed or pay rent or school fees and she herself about to become an atheist? remember? Well their story and their troubles are over after God intervened and opened my eyes to their issues and gave me the solution for them...

Guess what?

Someone very close to them just gave them 4million to begin a business with....now he is going to be an employer of labour and not a salary earner...From grass to grace after years of nothing and emptiness and in Just one month their story has CHANGED!

Someone else just paid their 600k rent and their children school fees without them spending a kobo

You need to embrace this God.

She will be sharing her testimony live on nairaland very soon.

Another monicker of yours I see

Pidggin:
It seems satan is working overtime today

I will prove to you that God is real. Give me your full names, in the next three days you will testify of Him. If you doubt me, try it

Why not tell your pathetic excuse of a "holy spirit" to reveal his/her name to you?

Oh! He can't?

Buhahahahhahaha

So you don't burn for eternity

DISCLAIMER: This post is about the fears I (Hopefullandlord) faced, I'm not saying such fears are what's keeping people theists but if you're a theist and the shoe fits, please wear it

This is not a thread about HOW I became atheist; NO, its about the fears I had during my journey

Atheism is something I actually became for a long before finally embracing it, this was long before I even knew what the word "atheism" means, so if there had never been an atheist before me, I would have been the first one

Part of the reasons it took so long for me was FEAR, not having anyone around me to guide me on that path made me stick with theism for a long time

Lets examine those fears that kept me theist

1 fear of failing in life due to lack of belief in god

stories were told in churches, at house fellowship, at home, at school, at almost everywhere imaginable about people failing in businesses, academics, sports, marriage, health and other walks of life, and they kept failing until they met Jesus; after meeting Jesus, successes in their businesses, health, marriage, academics followed automatically; these stories usually sounds very spellbinding and are usually followed with the popular bible verse

Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Mount Zion films also cemented this kind of fear, their films show all you need is Jesus

Hey bro, you don't have any hand? No legs? You can still become a Ronaldo Delima if you believe

Hey bro, you don't have a job? You can have a brand new car, a mansion and huge pile of hard bills in the next one minute if you believe

I know I exaggerated in the two examples above but consider stories of a someone driving from Ore to Lagos on empty tank; someone reparking a Car that had no engine (that story was all over Facebook)

our mathematics teacher who is one such born again was actually the most hungry looking out of all our teachers told us a story about a boy who didn't joke with his spiritual life, this boy according to him kept praying, fasting and attending fellowships; this actually took a toll on him when examination came as he was too busy facing spiritual life rather than reading; when results of the examination was out, he had the best result; naturally, we (the students or should I say audience) didn't believe this story at that point but our math teacher wasn't done, he said that boy passed because an angel appeared to him in the examination hall with answers, stood in front of him and told him to write those answers, no one could see the angel except this prayerful boy; we all believed the story ( secondary school brain)

To someone that's used to hearing stories like these almost every month since birth, the message is very clear Jesus provides everything Ask anything with faith and you have it

Such a fear was the easiest to overcome out of all my fears (it wasn't "easy" though)

How I Overcame that fear

I overcame that fear by keen observation, looking at the fact that the man or woman that prays the most is usually one of the poorest around

"Born again" students fail while a doubter like me succeed with flying colours; I then started to wonder where that "examination Hall angel" was when those prayerful students were failing

Seeing believers fail academically and me succeed actually made me realise that no matter the level of prayer you pray, you need to read, no angel would appear to you AND if you don't pray at all but read very well, you would definitely pass with flying colours

This fear was conquered early on in my life which enabled me embrace atheism faster, do you know why?

This is where it gets interesting

As you grow older, such fears transform from something you have much more control over; eg academics which involves studying, seriousness and reading; basically everything is in your hands, hence easy to debunk the "examination hall angel" logic since all power belongs to YOU and YOU alone TO things that you have much lesser control over; e.g Businesses which depends on a lot of luck; once you become an adult with those fears, it would be very hard to shake off, it becomes a part of you, you start thinking you can NEVER succeed in anything without Jesus

2nd fear is fear of witches, wizards, principalities, powers, spiritual attacks from extended families e.t.c

This was very hard for me to shake, growing up in Nigeria and hearing all sorts of stories about jazz being used on people kept me theist for many years too

Stories of people being freed from nightmares and impending death by mentioning the name of Jesus, stories in "fire in the word" by MFM (I read this bulletin every week, it was 10 naira back then)

Many tales of witchcraft attacks, tales about people using the name of Jesus to overcome those "attacks"

There was even a story of ritual killers transporting a woman to the kill location, this woman then kept shouting the name of Jesus in the bus being used to transport her, this name started causing commotion among the kidnappers and they told her to shut up, she however kept shouting the name until one of the kidnappers had to shut her mouth with a duct tape, she then used her hand to write "Jesus" on the floor of the bus, commotion resumed among the kidnappers and they had to stop the bus to let her leave

Stories of people that are born again being rejected by our local gods from being used as sacrifice while an unbeliever was accepted and sacrificed to the gods instead

Stories of extended families using jazz to bring family members back from abroad

Stories of love potions

Stories of relatives using spiritual means to keep their family members from succeeding in life

Stories of destinies being padlocked and thrown in the wilderness

Stories of grandmothers preventing their grandchildren from succeeding through spiritual means

Every Sunday, you're told these stories or their spinoffs

These stories were being reiterated by Christian movies and even secular movies are not left out

How I overcame that fear

The "grandmother" one made me start to question everything, my grandmother would prevent me from succeeding? Pure hogwash


Little by little, I started questioning each one

Witchcraft; that was the second one, there was this girl that people call a witch in school, she was feared by all and tales abound, like co students falling sick after having issues with her, even a particular girl died because of that; one day, I had a disagreement with her, she slapped me and I beat the holy crhap out of her, I beat her knowing I'm dying anyways, all through the rest of that school day, I was looked upon with pity by fellow students, most of them believing they'll never see me again, well I guess you know if I survived or not, right?

Your businesses and work fail because of anything but spiritual; I'm yet to see a business that keeps proper books fail without knowing the reason for the failure; t worst they fail due to bad luck

As I grew up, that fear got smaller and smaller; I looked at the huge level of curses being directed at bosses in Nigeria, its a surprise such bosses didn't fall down and die; how could Babangida kill so many people and none of them think it worthy to use "spiritual means" to eliminate him? Those Indians that are known to exploit us, they are stil going strong

Why can't that "spiritual means" be used to kill Boko Haram? Why is anybody even living since we should've all killed ourselves through those means since there would be someone somewhere who "deserves" those means

That was tough to overcome but I did anyways

3 Fear of what my family members might think

Hopefullandlord, What would your mother say? How would she feel? Your father? Have you thought about that? These words kept ringing in my brain

This was not really a "fear" thing but just a case of being in limbo out of respect, my parents take spiritual matters very seriously

This I overcame but I won't go into details because its more of a personal thing, what rocks my boat may sink yours

4 Fear of Yahweh himself, Hell fire and all

This fear was the hardest, hell fire, I'm burning for eternity

No one to save me, me and the devil who would torture me forever

Movies, books, Christian magazines, bible, everything points to hell one way or another

Here's the thing A visceral fear of something doesn't disappear automatically when you reason that the thing in question doesn't exist. You can still be scared of ghosts late at night just because it's late at night, even though you can clearly reason during a sunny afternoon that spirits are nonsense. Reason unfortunately doesn't override emotion just like that. It took time, fear of hell still remained for a long long time;

early morning preachers use hell fire as theme; you hear of hell almost everywhere
it kept cemented in my head and it was the HARDEST fear to overcome

But I overcame by realising all Muslims are hellbound; no matter how good they lived their lives, I started thinking about the good Muslims around, I then determined that hell is the place for me, let me point out that I don't believe in hell but indoctrination can be an almost impossible thing to overcome

So I started joking Elvis Presley, Fela and most of the popular people are going to hell, I won't be the only one there to be burning forever

Once I overcame this fear, I realised the absurdity of hell fire, it doesn't make ANY sense

Nothing I can do in this life warrants eternal torture

Even if I kill everyone in the world, I still don't think it warrants eternal torture let alone going to hell because of a lack of belief

Here's the thing; fear of Hell is an accident of your birth and not an indication of reality. Your parents/people around you taught you to fear Hell because they fear Hell. If you had been born to Hindus you would have been raised to believe in reincarnation. If you had been born a Viking you would have been taught that the only way to get into Heaven was to cross a rainbow bridge after dying gloriously in battle.

And BTW

Which hell?

Christian hell?

Muslim hell?

Hades?

Little by little, all these fears disappeared and I started taking full responsibility for my life, there's no witch that would prevent my success and I am succeeding


There you have it; all the fears that gave Christianity "life support" in my life for a long time


Thanks for the read

felixomor:


Ehen, I always knew

Thanks for describing your type of activities in detail.....Hehehehe

Sure, since I've "saved" a "suicidal" Nairalandee before

felixomor:
Its like somebody has gone to sign up with another moniker so as to continue his "ministry"......

[size=13pt] Oh

Tell that to your guys

There's one of you that has about 15 accounts

Theres even one of you that creates new ones then open a thread saying that new monicker wants to kill his/herself, he then uses his main monicker to "save" himself from suicide and brags about it

Desperate Christians tryna stay relevant through any means possible even lying in the process is allowed

All these in order to try to win some gullible converts [/size]

Its called "Sleight of Hands"

Hogwash