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He was sincere but made wrong choices of friends that almost spoilt his name.

How did we get here? How did ,the good intentions of CBN suddenly have the economy on its knees? what went wrong? Was it a mistake to have come down with a hammer on the banks? Was Soludo's approach of handling corruption in the banking industry with kid gloves apt? if so wouldn't the foundation have given way someday? Please somebody enlighten me. What is the middle course between the two approaches? we need a solution in order to get the economy back on its feet; to get businesses active again; the housing industry booming again, commerce up again, manufacturing,etc. We need this fast as we enter our jubilee.

I'm really thouroughly disappointed in the Sultan if he actually said this.
When did a treasonable act become unquestionable because of the religion of the actor? For the sultan to enter the fray, I have become very very suspicious of the acts of that night. Could there have been a larger but unsuccessful agenda or was it an intimidatory or warning shot? Can this move to protect the COAS at such a high cost the Sultan is offering be a prequel to another agenda or part 2 of same agenda? If any other lslamic ruler had said this it might have been overlooked but the supreme ruler himself entering the fray leaves a lot of unanswered questions. In this era   when most Statesmen are propsing ideas of moving the Nation forward what has the Sultan said since  Yaradua's disappearance? what did he say during OBJ's 3rd term agenda? what ideas has he given Jonathan on moving the nation forward? What solutions has he proposed concerning the Jos crises, uninterrupted power, true federalism, the niger delta issue, electoral reforms. anti corruption war? i could go on and on. If such national issues that are threatening the success of the Nigerian project are looming and do not disturb the Sultan but what is giving him sleeples nights is the position of the COAS; a position he was not born into but was appointed to, and which he had abused; i advise then that Jonathan should get his advisers analyse this statement and linked events properly,  send the appropriate response and take appropriate action without at all sleeping on his duty. If Ironsi had read correct meanings in statements and events prior to the second coup and taken proper actions, Nigeria would not have been caught in the vortex of pogroms, civil war, anarchy,etc that resulted and that are still plaguing the Nation till date. Please Jonathan, be very much at alert lest Nigeria's march to her destiny be truncated again.

Nigeria bashing is now the order of the day that many of her giant strides are unknown especially to young people but know that God has great plans for Nigeria and the evil men blocking that will soon be taken out of the way from the north, east, west and south for nigeria to have her pride of place and fulfilll her destiny. Keep praying for this to happen for we have no other country we can call our own even for those that have naturalized elsewhere. I wish Nlanders will desist from jumping into the bashing bandwagon and lead a campaign for Nigeria's greatness by contributing ideas on the forum for making her great. Let's quit all the shameles bickerings, ethnic suprematism, name-calling and abuse and post civilly. We should disagree with decorum  and turn NL into a tool for Nation building. NL and other similiar fora have already done much in this area but could do much better. Do not underestimate the power of the written word. You might be surprised to know the caliber of people that read NL even those in government. Mods, Supermods,etc should help us and before you know it a real mass movement for national greatness has started. We do not have to wait for those in government. We can actually make them irrelevant or force many of them to change their vision of Government as a place to 'go and chop'. 'Is it possible?' you might be asking. Change comes to differnt Nations in different ways. Armed struggle coupled with Mandela's,et al patience, perseverence and persistence suceeded in South Africa but it was Non-violence that worked for the blacks in US and for Ghandi in India. Ideas brought about the industrial revolution as well as the Marxist revolution in Russia. As well, two words ;perestroika and glasnost brought down the iron curtain and ultimately ended the soviet empire. The ultimate revolution, that of Christ rode on the wings of words not arms. Never underestimate the power of words and ideas. Lets do it here in NL.

@ Fhemmmy

Thanks.

A tribute to OBJ at 73.

Obj is one of the luckiest living Nigerians. The only person that has had the opportunity to rule the Nation twice in two different spells. He achieved much as a military head of state, eventually handing over to the civilians. Coming out of prison in 1999, and with ,by his own confession, a salvation experience he came in as a civilian president with a lot of sincerity in moving the nation forward and actually achieved much in neutralizing the restive military and stabilizing the country from so much divisive forces thrown up in the aftermath of the June 12 1993 election annulment and other erstwhile dormant forces that had suddenly found their voices in the absence of the khaki boys

He went ahead to involve technocrats and reputed individuals in his bid to solve Nigeria's myriads of problems and he succeeded in setting up certain structural   foundations that are benefiting the nation today. With these individuals especially his crack finance and monetary team, he was able to garner a lot of international respect for Nigeria to the extent that a partial debt forgiveness was extended to Nigeria by the Paris club of creditors and with the help of high price of crude Oil, Nigeria's main foreign exchange earner,and deft financial management, Nigeria became the first Nation in sub-Saharan Africa to pay of all her  foreign debts. So promising was the country's financial profile that by 2005, Goldman Sachs, the American investment bank predicted that by 2015, Nigeria and Egypt would be the only African countries in the N-11 ie the next eleven largest  growing economies after the BRIC states of Brazil, Russia, India and China.

A little into his  second term when he should have consolidated his achievements and probably tackled tough National questions he was curiously led astray by his third term ambition. This was when he should have left for  Nigeria legacies that would have written his name in gold and made him enter the pantheon of the greatest Nigerian statesman of the Pre-Independence era. Legacies such as true federalism, electoral reforms, a people's Constitution, a perfect census, uninterrupted power supply, capacity building and self sustenance in oil and gas, institutionalized infrastructural development and maintenance, sustainability in the corruption war, Independence of the judiciary and Legislative maturity,educational, health and housing,etc reforms.
Some of the institutions he had set up were compromised in that his pursuit and with them  his reputation as well as that of certain individuals previously perceived as unimpeachable , national and ethnic reconciliations he initiated  through the Oputa panel were abandoned and a golden oportunity in the life of a Nation was lost and Gods plan of greatnes for Nigeria put in abeyance
Experts may one day capture the reasons for his political Hara-Kiri since he came out of his  military Carreer appearing un-ambitious. True, appearances could be deceitful but it remains to be understood what the leftovers in Aso Rock  were  that he was still interested in, a jibe he had once aimed at General Gowon. History may put them down to be due to a mesiah complex caused by sycophancy a la Abacha's one million man march or ambition or seductin by the lure of power, or ego trip and muscle flexing  especialy since he was derided by some sections of being too scared to rule in in his first  experience  in the aftermath of the Murtala assasination. I hope history will look kindly on him and present his achievements strongly while dismissing his third term bid as a moment of weakness and madness and see him as a great leader. However he is certainly not Nigeria's greatest leader. We have got our Lincolns, Ghandis and Mandelas but are  still waiting for our , Washingtons,  Churchills, Castros, et al. Hope Jonathan takes a cue.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY OBJ.

Nigeria will survive and be great. let people start believing in her and work towards her greatness. Truel; sectionalism does really draw her back. Hope Jonathan will be a vanguard of a new generation of leaders that will shun ethnicity and tribal bias and buid Nigeria into greatness. He has such an opportunity. With no serious godfathers and hangers-on, he has a rare opportunity to lay the foundation of a truly great federation within this one year. Let him not shy away from tackling the structures and systems that have kept Nigeria back. OBJ stabilized the Nation in his first term and would have used the second term to tackle structures like true federalism but the third term ambition derailed him. Yaradua's health did not allow him do much on his 7-point agenda. It is in Jonathan's court now. Let him not say the time is too short.

I  tire my brother. Even beneficiarries of her courage who were busy playing the ostrich have now found their tongues  and now acting holier than thou. The crisis her memo averted has been coveniently and suddenly forgotten. No wonder some people believe, even if erroneously, that Nigeria is not worth dying for. However I encourage her not to be discouraged because history will always vindicate those who did right when it was almost suicidal to do that.

Dora should follow her conscience and not what people think she should do. You can never please all the people all the time.History will remember those that helped end the crisis and her name will figure prominently. For those reading ulterior motives in her actions, it is their business. What is important is that she now sleeps well without lexotan.

Dora should follow her conscience and not what people think she should do. You can never please all the people all the time.History will remember those that helped end the crisis and her name will figure prominently. For those reading ulterior motives in her actions, it is their business. What is important is that she now sleeps well without lexotan.

I believe  that this will  generate  the much needed anger in the nation to fish out those mass murdererss and put a final nail on the coffin of highway robbery, kidnapping and assasinations plaguing the nation. They have  impudently thrown the gauntlet, clearly asking , 'what can you do?' I  am positive and elated that Nigeria will accept the challenge this time around.

@ Beaf
I agree with you about the need for younger and more credible northerners like Rufai,et al. But what  actualy is the job description of this new cabal? Just advisory? Or are we exchanging one cabal for another? Again I thought TYD was said to be mentally challenged. We are just coming out of a crisis caused by a health challenge, why court another? Blimey. We have I50 million Nigerians. If the matter is that of military sagacity, Umar is still alive and well as  are many other credible and sagacious retired northern soldiers. TYD may turn out to be a bad move by GJ and a bad news for the Nation. I don't see him at all as Caeser's wife as some posters are making him out to appear here.

Jonathan is doing just fine for now. Playing it by the ear. People are already saying he has no balls, why? He is just two and half weeks into the job and the cabal has already pulled a joker on him by bringing in(?) his boss to destabilize him. I think he needs a lot of prayers and support from all. He is not ambitious so was not expecting the president to be so ill that he would have to act or even take over. He just wanted to be the vice so all the present developments are new to him and he is just adjusting to them. people should not push him to over-reach himself and act out of character. They are those that will accuse him tomorrow of being over-ambitious and power drunk. He has to be close to God for directions, wisdom and a blueprint for Nigeria. With that he will take actions that will not be faulted. He was commended in the different handling of Aondakaa and Lukman but probably missed it in the niger dredging issue. The blueprint will pleasantly surprise all and set nigeria on the part to greatness. People talking about US and UK coming to help Nigeria against the cabal sound childish. We must ensure that Nigeria succeeds by ourselves. No other Nation will do that for us. They all have their own national and international challenges. Their assistance can only be moral. Abacha ruled for how long? We must take our destiny in our hands. More folks like Akunyili, Soyinka, David Mark,etc are needed.

Jonathan is doing just fine for now. Playing it by the ear. People are already saying he has no balls, why? He is just two and half weeks into the job and the cabal has already pulled a joker on him by bringing in(?) his boss to destabilize him. I think he needs a lot of prayers and support from all. He is not ambitious so was not expecting the president to be so ill that he would have to act or even take over. He just wanted to be the vice so all the present developments are new to him and he is just adjusting to them. people should not push him to over-reach himself and act out of character. They are those that will accuse him tomorrow of being over-ambitious and power drunk. He has to be close to God for directions, wisdom and a blueprint for Nigeria. With that he will take actions that will not be faulted. He was commended in the different handling of Aondakaa and Lukman but probably missed it in the niger dredging issue. The blueprint will pleasantly surprise all and set nigeria on the part to greatness. People talking about US and UK coming to help Nigeria against the cabal sound childish. We must ensure that Nigeria succeeds by ourselves. No other Nation will do that for us. They all have their own national and international challenges. Their assistance can only be moral. Abacha ruled for how long? We must take our destiny in our hands. More folks like Akunyili, Soyinka, David Mark,etc are needed.

There is hope for Nigeria

Good for Unilorin. But for how long if indeed it is so? Who ranked highest last year and the year before and the one before that and who will rank highest next year?  why so much changes every year since there is really no active competition by the universities to excel in the rankings? why no nigerian univ in the top ten in africa? why did nigerian universities come tops in the zain challenge of last year? what are really the parameters for these rankings?

@ Bluetooth
Executive igbo rascality on display




Bringing ethnicity into this discourse will soon bring other ethnic defenders to start pointing out what yoruba governors are doing thereby derailing the pertinent question: has a fellow citizen been this brazenly violated and if so how do we stop this from ever happenning again?

The south did not make yaraduah sick, why should their time to take over be extended because of that. No but I think one day the north will have their turn to finish a southern tenure and yet stick to the unwritten eight year rotation between north and south@ that is if pdp is still in power.

I had my doubts about Samuelson's story but he has gone ahead to engage festus keyamo in his defence. Again TheCcyber defence team for the governor on NL is giving the truth to his allegations. I dont know whether it is the same person under different user names but one of them registered today and all his posts are on the attack of samuelson and in the defence of the governor without responding to questions being raised by forumites but posting a supposed congratulatory letter by samuelson and naming it an apology letter the same thing done by his suspected double. Their (his) posts insult our collective intelligemnce on NL and i dont think i should address them anymore but i will keep asking the question; HAS A FELLOW CITIZEN BEEN THIS BRAZENLY VIOLATED?

@ddonobi

Why you have chosen to make  Gov Ohakim appear as a saint beats me. It shows in your former posts. If you were neutral and dispassionate, your crusade would be to find  out whether the alleged victim's allegations are true to make sure they are not repeated and if not to give NLanders hard facts to expose him.  Telling us that they said 'he was not brought to govt house and that gov was not in town that day' is a  very weak defence, It is hearsay  and not verifiable fact or evidence.  Many Nlanders are very intelligent to be taken in by just that. Even if you are a mercenary (I' m not saying you are only God knows), you need to do better than that because you  would be doing a bad job of it if so. Even if it is what they said, what would you have expected them to say; agree that the governor flogged somebody in his office almost to death? Your posts show that your run-ins with the  alleged victim are not recent nor your romance with the governor, so your position will be hardly unbiased. We need NLanders with unbiased positions to supply us information and facts of what really happened to make sure that it is not the governors detractors at work and if not that justice is done to the alleged victim. Your other points about how he is bringing up his son or his apology letter to the governor are beside the point here in face of such allegations of gross human rights violation ,abuse of office and mockery of the immunity thing if true. Could you recalibrate please as you may be the victim tomorrow. Allegations of such gross bahaviour need be investigated to protect every citizen including you , even the governor as there is life after power,  all benefficiaries of his office now as they say 'army go, army come' etc. It is not time for jumping to any one's defence without proofs unless as a mercenary activity. Is the account recounted not chilling enough? why talk about the victim remembering every word as if that were impossible and therefore makes the account spurious. Otherwise be calm and watch how the events play out. Don't try to influence them or cover them up through NL.Peace.

congrats. good for the nigerian project

Seun, boda mi, is there really a moderator on this tread or are the rules and regulations of NL just on paper? Please help in the campaign to sanitize and launder NL back into civil discourses or is it now a free- for- all? Certainly  many of these hate posts ought not be allowed to land. Fifa.com is very astute in editing posts. We can borrow something from them.

@ Afam
Now, every single idiot comes to NL, lies about things and when exposed begin to claim to have made their points. You are just a pig that is completely insane.

Wao!!! Any more? Just empty yourself of the poison.

@ Babapupa
We are all Nigerians and we all know the truth/what occurred and how it occurred, the shame reflects on all of us if we allow wholesale re writing of history and gross distortion of documented events by people with selfish and tribal views and interests.

Btw, we are not forcing you to read or contribute.

I doff my hat fo you for being the most charitable to me of the triumvirate, but which of you are innocent of my allegations  of hate. You can still refute lies or whatever you call it without resorting to abuse and vitriol. And which of you has his facts 100% accurate?

As for not forcing me to read or contribute, why then am I in NL. If posts irritate our sensibilities, shall we not call the posters to order. I'm sorry If you felt my post was disengenious but if its disingenuity will shock you guys out of impropriety, I'm all for it. I CAN SEE THAT  THE TEMPO HAS COME DOWN. Thanks to yall.

@ Ndu Chucks

Afam,  you know they say silence is the best answer for a fool.  I believe the accuser is a fool whose post should not be dignified with a response. You chose to respond to him and that is your prerogative - it doesn't make me any better than you.


I'm glad you and Afam are now working together. My goal is gradually being achieved. Clearly Yall are tired of the war and need to call a truce Still waiting for Babapupa and the others to join you in this raproachment against a common enemy (me). Does Nigeria need a  war against a foreign Nation to make the different tribes work together and see themselves as brothers? Food for thot.

@afam
It is your father that is guilty of the nonsense you are accusing me of.

Have I ever insulted anyone here for having a different opinion? No.

Have I ever insulted any tribe for whatever reasons? No.

If I respond to insults in kind and expose or correct lies being told by others about my people does that make me have hatred towards anyone? No.

The problem we have in Nigeria is because of shameless fools that will make all sorts of ridiculous accusations that are not factual.

You seem to excuse those who insult other tribes, lie about what happened and continue to abuse a people but for defending my people and challenging the lies I am now a bad person.

I curse you and your whole family, idiot



MY VERY POINT




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Why so much vitriol, so much hate, so much bile, so much denigration ,abuse asnd cursing out of other tribes?  ala babapupa, afam, ndu chucks etc. ethnic hatred should be made a crime in nigeria if another war and Rwanda-like ethnic cleansing is to be avoided. If the above three were the three original triumvirate, nigeria would have long gone up in a bloodsoaked smoke. Should not the moderator check some of these hate spewing posts? Nobody wants to admit the mistakes and evils of our past leaders simply because he is their tribesman. Whither Nigeria if todays youths can not detach themselves emotionally from the evils of their past leaders? How can the handshake not to talk of the hug across the niger and benue come to pass? Maybe in the generation of our great great great grand children. Historians should help us trace back the biological link of the nigerian tribes to see if biology will do the trick I'm positive that there is a biological link somewhere long after Adam, Noah, Ham and Japhet. Please join me in praying for nigeria in this her year of jubilee. Peace.

No. only we have to be sincere with each other and live and let live. Confront past mistakes, betrayals and bloodletting, apologise, do reparations where necessary instead of trying to sweep them under the rug so we can leave the past behind, practice true federalism or confederation and move on. In the long run we have more to gain together than apart. Only in the short run can division benefit some groups, certainly not in the long run ala eu, cis, usa, etc the trend is towards conglomeration not seperation.  Seperation should only be a last resort as it is an aberration in todays global developments.

what is this really about?

Wonders will never end in nigeria. Imo state must be The banana republic of idi amin if this is true. i felt so much like crying while reading this story because i put myself in his place.Civil society must investigate this story and see that justice is done. lets make sure it is not the governors detractors doing this and if the story is true that such a thing never happens any where in nigeria again. peace.

Who saw him and weighed him? Dont speak evil of the ruler of your people but pray for him. He is not a bad man intrinsically but has bad advisers. If it is Gods will he will return healed. Not by marabouts of course but because of God's mercy.