₦airaland Forum

Supremos:
I've never argued the fact that their are mini nations in Nigeria.

I'm saying that if the owners of Lagos which is part of Nigeria, are tired of seeing other Nigerians in Lagos, the only way forward is to secede from Nigeria.

You can't be sharing revenues and goodwill of the Nigerian state and abhor other nationalities

Have they ever said they tired of seeing others in Lagos?

They simply say respect their choices, custom and traditions.

Proudlyomonna:
I don't agree with him bcus I also believe there are indigenous people of Lagos before the British came there but stop trying to paint another picture or narrative.
It's Lagos State not the Lagos Island.

No state existed in Nigerian before 1967.

Supremos:
Accept the fact that Yorubaland is part and parcel of Nigeria and hence, every Nigerian has equal right or you sue for secession.

That's the truth, everyone has any right to live anywhere they wish

However, by asking for secession, you have also acknowledged that Nigeria is a country of many nations.

Hence, the mini nations must not provoke one another in within Nigeria.

Self determination is a thing Everyone has to aspire by themselves, no one is holding anyone back from seceding

You keep attacking Yorubas with verbal assault on their own land and you expect them to fold their arms

You keep calling Lagos no man's Land

You keep calling Lagos dirty but you are contributing to the dirt

You call Lagos to jam packed but you join body pack the Lagos


What were you expecting Yorubas to do?

The ethnic politics is being played by both opposition and the leading party.

crazygod:
If you can't control yourself, you don't need to post anything. Some Ijaws originate from Ondo state. Would you call them Yorubas? Have you heard Aworis and Eguns speak their own languages?

What is the language of Aworis?

Lol

Do you know what is called Edekiri? A dialect of Yoruba mostly spoken in Ede Osun state of Davido.

That is the language of Aworis, you people think every Yorubas speak the Oyo/Yoruba version of Yoruba language?

Egun are not Yorubas but are less than 12% of the indigenous people of Lagos.

broadman20:
What was the former name of Lagos before the coming of the white man?

Lagos island was called many names depending on who you are speaking too.

The bini called it Eko, Awori called it oKo etc.

Lagos was named however by the portuguese meaning Lagoons

wirinet:
The word Yoruba was meaningless at the time of the arrival of the Binis and the portuguese. It was the Fulanis that coined the word Yoruba.

The binis never took over Lagos island

That's why the descendants of white cap Chief Elegushi has more land in Lagos than oba of Lagos.

The rep cap Chief like Obanikoro only have their family compound like iga Obanikoro, Iga Kosoko in idu-mota

You can verify it from anywhere.

Iykenuwa:
That's the thing, most of the Yoruba who were in Lagos at the time were all chased from the hinterland by the 100 years Yoruba wars.

Today, they are all claiming Lagos.

In Benin City, there is a street called Lagos Street, that is the place where the children of the British-deposed Oba of Lagos migrated after their father was deposed.


They returned there because they knew where their father came from.



Everything I wrote here is a historical fact. You can check independently.

@ emboldened is a lie sir

The deposed oba of Lagos, Kosoko was exiled in Epe.

That's the reason why we have two Epes today. We have Epe Eko ruled by the descendants of Kosoko and Epe Ijebu which is the original Epe.

On returning to Lagos, the Chief negotiator between Akintoye and Kosoko was given a parcel of land by the Colonial masters. The Chief negotiator is no other than Chief Tapa Oshodi (a Nupe man who grew up in Lagos amogst the Yorubas). He was given a vast Forest in the land called Oshodi Eko today.

Lightorder:
please , who is your father Whose son are you , please?

How is that relevant to my submission.

wirinet:
Idunmota, idumagbo, iddo.

Ido is in Ibadan and Ekiti..

Only idumota is the land area given to Benin.

Iddo has nothing to with Benin.

Pythagoras001:
nope there is a difference between colony and protectorate. Lagos not Lagos state was a colony the others were protectorate.

Nigeria was intialy a colony before it became a protectorate.

crazygod:
It's not even for Yorubas, originally, the indigenes are Aworis and Eguns. All other tribe just settled there because it was a federation capital.

Who are the Aworis

You forget Aworis are in Ife Osun state and in Ogun state

Besides Ibeju, Epe and Ikorodu is indigenous to Jebu as in Ijebu.

Ethelokoro:
So technically, we can just say Lagos has colonial origins. I remember learning this in Nigerian History class.
The sad thing is that a lot of people won't agree with this.
Lagos just happens to be in the South-west region of Nigeria, but its not the land of the Yoruba; its a border state. If you like call it Eko from now till tomorrow.

Every part of Nigeria is colonial territory

Does that mean you longer own your village?

tamdun:
Where did you see Isolo and Ikorodu

Rufai claimed the treaty was for the whole of Lagos.

I said it's not possible because every area in Lagos has their own king.

tamdun:
Rufai is a fool,does that mean British own India,South Africa,Ghana etc,British govt colonised the whole county but this fool want to single out Lagos state,the fool unknowingly just confirmed that Lagos belongs to yoruba because the document signed was between oba dosunmu(a yoruba man)and the British and it covers a very tiny part of Lagos as u can see from the map below

Isolo, Epe, Ikorodu had their own kings, So how will Eleko sign a treaty on their behalf?

Efuaye:
EKO

Eko is not a village or a specific location.

Outside idumota area of Lagos given to the bini people by Aromire sub-clan of Awori, there's no place one can find bini traces in Lagos.

By the way, majority of these so called "binis" like Kosoko, Obanikoro, Eletu will stone you if you call them anything but Yorubas today.

Massiveglory:
Little boi go and learn your history. Rufai has properly and truthfully schooled you.

Bro the history of Africa and Nigeria in particular is easily available on the internet.

With all due respect to Rufai, I will school him in certain areas of African history.

Efuaye:
The first colonial masters or owners were the Binis!

We are all emigrants because even those laying claims emigrated from somewhere.

Mention the bini villages in Lagos?

Beremx:

Rufai doesn't know that the Lagos colonoy/protectorate included the majority of Ogun state and Oyostate in it?

Your Rufai doesn't know that there are similar treaties across Africa between colonial masters and indigenous people of the colonies in the colonial period?


Rufai doesn't Know Lagos State is different from Lagos island?

The Lagos state included

Majority of Lagos mainland, Ikorodu, Badagry and Epe that were never part of Lagos island or FCT intial plan by the colonial maters.

Dentidon:
Lagos Island is different from Lagos state today. Is rufai oseni that dumb?

It's only Lagos island that is called Lagos until today.

The rest of Lagos has a name.

This is Lagos island not Lagos State.

Just like Oyo state is different from Oyo town.

Enugu town is different from Enugu state

Lagos State is a Creation of the Nigerian military government.

By the way, there is nothing contentious in saying Lagos State is Yoruba land.

The whole of Nigeria once belonged to Royal Niger company as a private property. It doesn't mean there were no indigenous Hasuas in Kano or indigenous Igbos in Anambra at that time.

Dave Umanhi is reasonable Nigerian.

Mystic216:
Hypocrisy and foolishness runs in the blood of every urchin

They were calling Obi out for visiting religious clerics

Now APC candidate is identifying with the same clerics and they are locking comment space because they know their level of hypocrisy

Anything APC is evil

What about Obi supporters that cried Muslim/Muslim ticket for almost a year despite the fact that obi went to church ask Christians to take back their country.

The gap between Obi and Tinubu is 2.8m votes.

All the noise of fraud so far by obi has been able to chop off 800k from Tinubu. I.e Rivers Election etc.

If it was easy to conjure up 2.8 votes via rigging APC will not have lost Lagos and Kaduna.

And I thought Datti is a smart man, how can he use unknown foreign newspaper opinion pieces to gauge the opinion of Nigerians regarding a presidential election

ImmaculateJOE:
Oga, asked the people living in the North at the time of the annulment about the term oso Abiola

Then you will understand what Mr. Obi meant by his statement..

Nitwit..

You mean the Oso Abiola that last for a month.

It was proactive move of Southerners In the North who ran back home thinking a civil war was brewing.

It's nothing serious sir.

Igbo 1 million match for Abacha

Igbos largely supported Abacha in the beginning just like they did for Buhari when they thought he was only against Tinubu recently.

Infact igbos jubilated widely when the election was annulled thinking that Lord has avenged the civil war for them.

Cashless policy

Best thing since slice bread

Abi no be so Obidients.

Asgard13:
That certificate must be returned .. to the rightful owner ..

No be noisy owner ..
Illegality can’t stand …

The case will only be resolved long after Tinubu swearing in as the president..

And Tinubu has not given a single press conference to gloat since the presidential election.

So who is the noisy owner?

kettykin:
You are dragging Ogun state and oyo which is out of the scope of discussion

I am dragging it

I am just letting you know what Yorubas actually built in Lagos and outside of Lagos.

Angelfrost:
💯 of what population in question??! The entire nation?! State?! Local government?!! Polling unit?!! Street?!!


Please, be less ambiguous! Thank you.

In Anambra sir

It's there in the caption!

kettykin:
And what is the big deal about ikeja industrial complex that has been taken over by churches and warehouses not even 1 industry is working there of recent apart from7up and Coca-Cola. When I am talking about Lagos, I am talking about apapa, ikoyi. Victoria Island marina not some moribund, glorified neighborhoods Harbouring urchins. The real Lagos as I maintained previously is run by non yorubas, know this and know peace

lol

So how are those areas Ikoyi etc providing revenue for Lagos?

However, Ikeja/ Sango-ota/Ibadan industrial complex still produces more than 70% of manufactured goods in Nigeria till today.

Angelfrost:
Did Tinubu, Fashola and Sanwo-Olu get 100% when they contested for governorship?!!

Name the governor in Nigeria's history that has ever gotten 100%?!!

Or you don't know the difference between governorship and presidential elections, or the uniqueness of either?!!

Thank you for making my point for me!

There's no way anyone no matter how good gets 100% of the population, except the person in question is a dictator.