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hahn:
God did not get angry.

God is wise and all knowing. Everything happens for his will and he knows everything before they happen. In fact, everything that happens is of his doing.

God already knew the snake would tempt Eve and that is why he put it there. It knew Eve would tempt Adam, eat the apple and that it will punish them by roasting them in hell fire.

Everything happened because God loves the smell of suya

Mastakija:
lol
it so certain d lent some ppl go just to get their thread into FP
so seun and his ppl will b lyk
yh yh c dis my guy we r on d same page
lemme move this thread to FP
shior!!
u r doing ya self

sonmvayina:
You have a point here.. But the Catholic definition is that faith is a super natural gift from God that enables you to believe without doubting whatever God has revealed... I still know my catechism...

light099:
Unfortunately, in life, you would always have to believe one shiit or the other.

sonmvayina:
It is just a fancy word for ignorance...

Kobojunkie:
Is this IAMMICHAEL of IAMMICHELIN... whatever that dude's moniker is again?

Sibrah:
One minute you guys blame God the next minutes you guys blame vaccines on religious conspiracy and try to sound intelligent.

frank317:
I hope u worship Zeus dear unconfused one.

A name is just a means of identification.

petra1:
Psalms 14:1
​ The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. .

Xavfra:
Them no go gree

duro4chang:
The bible has foretold it that in the last days perilous time shall come. It is written that there would be pestilence .

Primesky:
Is life needed?. Do you want to live?.

If life is needed and you want to live, and God alone can give life, then God is the number one priority. If He takes away life,how can anybody achieve the things you listed above?.

God is too merciful, otherwise this kind of question will never arise.

IMAliyu:
I didn't exactly grow up without a religion, my family is Muslim and we did have a mallam that came to our house 2-3 days a week for 1-2hours to teach us how to recite Quran no shouting or beating similar to a lesson teacher which was pretty much it.
Things like how to perform the Muslim 5 daily prayers, and other parts of the religion I thought myself, by reading books from my dad's library after feeling that I had considerably inadequate knowledge of the religion compared to my friends.
My mother came from a mixed Muslim Christian family meaning a number of my family members had a different religion which made me considerably tolerant. Celebrate Salah in our house, and celebrate Christmas in my grandmother's house.
But in turn I was pretty much naive of the level of intolerance and religious zombie mentality out there, until I entered Uni and saw the true nature of things.

As a result of my personal experience, I don't have that much of a negative view of religion, despite being fully aware of it's pathology and flaws now.

MiddleDimension:
you didn't even have the gut to respond to the other part of my post.

IMAliyu:
How do you suggest this becomes enforced then? In a non Orwellian manner.

I still plan on exposing my children to religion and culture, but not only that together with philosophy, contrary religious views and cultures, and tools for critical thought if possible from the age they can understand stories. When they grow up, and choose to go their own way that's fine by me.
I won't force religion down their throats like my parents didn't to me (was super lucky), unlike some of my mates that were sent to islamiyya and were constantly beaten and made to memorize quran.
On the subject of beating, I don't believe in it and won't allow anyone to hit them, not a mallam or a teacher in school having had sadistic abusive teachers myself.

"Atheism is more than just the knowledge that gods do not exist, and that religion is either a mistake or a fraud. Atheism is an attitude, a frame of mind that looks at the world objectively, fearlessly, always trying to understand all things as a part of nature."

- Emmett F. Fields.

"Being a Humanist means trying to behave decently without expectation of rewards or punishment after you are dead."
- Kurt Vonnegut

"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence."

Christopher Hitchens

Xmuslim:
This law actually protect children from mental abuse.

However, most religious people believe that the only way to eternal pleasure is their own particular religion. They will do all in their capacity to teach their children the presumed one and only way to eternal joy.


A believer will not teach his children his faith only if he's agnostic about his religion.

Xmuslim:
Some never mature mentally

Beetunez44:
I just went over my post and I didn't see anywhere I used the word FORCE or am I seeing differently?

Beetunez44:
I see no reason why a father won't want to share with his child the beautiful factor that helped/worked and is working for him.
Beyond reasonable doubt that is called SELFISHNESS and IRRESPONSIBILITY. Christians are selfless and also responsible.

Why does rich men trains their child with wealth? why do they acquire property for them even while they are young? (peoples darkened mind will see this to be right and religion to be wrong)

my children will watch me tongue for hours, watch me in fellowship, watch me heal the sick and raise the dead, get baptised in the holy ghost and in love early...

Let's see why they will not love God.

Beetunez44:
I see no reason why a father won't want to share with his child the beautiful factor that helped/worked and is working for him.
Beyond reasonable doubt that is called SELFISHNESS and IRRESPONSIBILITY. Christians are selfless and also responsible.

Why does rich men trains their child with wealth? why do they acquire property for them even while they are young? (peoples darkened mind will see this to be right and religion to be wrong)

my children will watch me tongue for hours, watch me in fellowship, watch me heal the sick and raise the dead, get baptised in the holy ghost and in love early...

Let's see why they will not love God.

EOEI:
I think its better to start from JHS 1 and the child will able to grow thru the religious aspect of life. I personally studied in Ghana and i did Religious and Behavioural Studies from JHS 1 thru 3, i grow up thru Christian and Islamic studies in the subject. The subject was dropped in my SHS1 and i can tell u that i knew some important part of Islam as a Christian.

Vic2Ree:
What this guy said:

atheistandproud:
I agree with Vic2Ree

Mental maturity cannot be measured using biological age.

Some individuals mature mentally by 15, others by 30 lol.

Vic2Ree:
If possible, when they are old enough to apply critical thinking

atheistandproud:
@IamMichael

I was raised a pentecostal. Basically grew up in church.

By age 10 when I was in JS1, I had at least finished the Bible cover to cover twice. I was done with "My Book of Bible Stories" a JW publication and I was on to the next one "Questions Young People ask".

My teacher, then, Uncle Chris was dedicated. Where he had problems with my parents was when he tried to sneak me to a Congregation meeting. My dad never forgave him. My mom did tho but he was never allowed to come to the house again.

The book of revelations tortured and frightened me as a child. Till date when I flip through, a shadow of that old ghost still lurks in those pages. Old habits die hard I guess.

I was number one pic for sword drills, quizzes and Bible debates. I left my mom's church for RCCG because they had a better system for teenagers. I grew there and soon had my name forwarded for school of disciples, made assistant youth president and was mounting the altar/pulpit for programmes. I was only 16 by the time.

I was systematically and intensively brainwashed.

I know the system, in and out, I fought for it, engaged in debates for it. Church helped me hone my speaking and writing skills. But ultimately it is damaging for the psyche. It makes one sheep.

If I have kids, till you're 18, I won't bother you with religion or non religion. I'll let you grow as a child to an adult and then let you make your mind.

When I renounced religion, my old church took down my photos, erased my awards and made me a personal non grata. Some do not even speak to me again.

Squillaci:
Gbam.
If God exists, it would foolish to describe it as good or bad. God would be the determiner of what's right or wrong. So if he decides that genocide is good, then it is good simply because he says so. But God deciding if A is good or bad doesn't address the concept of good or bad is.
To me, Good and bad can only make sense if we see it as a human construct. Something a God would be beyond.