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Dtruthspeaker:
There is no more cognible statement that can be said other than the above, just as after A,B,C to Letter 'Z', no other letter remain to use again.

kingxsamz:
Yeah, thanks.
I now believe in God.

Dtruthspeaker:
I Already answered you, The Highest Name we can Find To Call Him is God, The Mighty and the Creator!

Dtruthspeaker:
The Battle Begins!

The Highest and Most Powerful Name we are able to identify Him with And to Let Him Know that we are indeed Calling Him and not someone else is "God", The Mighty, The Glorious, The Creator!

Coder2Client:
When we are talking about law and constitution in Nigeria, we are talking about a lawless country and her inconsequential constitution that are repugnant. The same constitution that gives freedom of religion and what have you, will still still be used against your belief.


Can atheists freely profess their belief even when the constitution does give freedom of religion?

vickydankal:
For us Christians it is not about being politically correct but a duty and necessity at least while the child is still under your roof. Train up are child in the way he should, not must go until the age of consent for him to decide what’s best for him. Religion has helped in no small way to instilling fear, order and respect for human lives. Leaving your child to grow up by chance is very risky. If you know the way would hesitate to teach and show your children?

Authoreety:
I go with this one.. Children that are trained to follow Christ turn out to be good citizens. And u must start teaching them as soon as they can hear you talk.

vickydankal:
For us Christians it is not about being politically correct but a duty and necessity at least while the child is still under your roof. Train up are child in the way he should, not must go until the age of consent for him to decide what’s best for him. Religion has helped in no small way to instilling fear, order and respect for human lives. Leaving your child to grow up by chance is very risky. If you know the way would hesitate to teach and show your children?

I think this is a serious topic that needs to be talked about.


In Nigeria, the constitution is the number one law of the land, and it supersedes and trump’s down every other law in Nigeria. What this means in simple terms is that even if the constitution is wrong, and the law contradicting the constitution is right, the constitution will still be applied strictly notwithstanding.

“The Constitution of Nigeria is the supreme law of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.
Nigeria has had a series of constitutions. The current constitution was enacted on 29 May 1999, inaugurating the Nigerian Fourth Republic (With 1st, 2nd and Third Alterations or Amendments).”

According to this Supreme Law of our land, everyone has freedom of religion. This Freedom is guaranteed in a part of it called SECTION 38. You can also call it the 38th Law of Nigeria as a Sovereign Nation and Republic. This section says:

Section 38(1):
“Every person shall be entitled to freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including freedom to change his religion or belief.”
From the above, the 38th Law of our land states that anyone who is a “person” is entitled to their freedom of thought, conscience and religion, including the right to change their religion if they want or so desire.

Now, who is a “person” in Nigeria?
We will now move to the number one Law or Act in Nigeria that explains terms and words of law in Nigeria. It is called “INTERPRETATIONS ACT”, properly quoted as Interpretation Act – CAP I23 L.F.N. 2004.


According to this Interpretation Act, a “Person = includes any body of persons corporate or un-incorporate.”
Un-incorporate here simply refers to people mainly, among other things i don’t want to bother you about.
But before one can be a person under “un-incorporate” above, they must be a Nigerian citizen.

A child born to parents who are citizens of Nigeria therefore is a person within the definition above. As a person under this definition, the child is automatically guaranteed the Freedom stated in the number one Supreme Law of the Land, The Constitution.
The legal real age of consent in Nigeria is 18yrs. This age is contained in The Number One Law of the Land guiding the rights of a Nigerian child called “Child Rights Act”. This law protecting the rights of a Nigerian child states in Section 31(3) (a) of the Child’s Rights Act, 2003 states that:
“Where a person is charged with an offence (of unlawful sexual relations with a child) under this section (31 of the same act), it is immaterial that the offender believed the person to be of or above the age of eighteen years.”


From the above Law, we can see that the age of consent of a child is 18yrs (note that this law applies differently for persons in the armed forces).
So far, we have stated what the law of the land stipulated with regards to who a person is and we have confirmed that a child is a person in Nigeria. As a person in Nigeria, the child is therefore guaranteed his right to choose to believe or venture into any religion of his choice. The child is also guaranteed to form their own thoughts about religion without interference or influence from anyone.

With this in mind, using your influence as the child’s caregiver or guardian to lure the child into your personal choice of religion is a violation of that child’s right to their freedom of thought and religion. The Law of the Land stipulates that every child can only be exposed to religion at the age of 18yrs which is the age of consent.

This simply means that any religious act, baptism, induction, thanksgiving, etc, engaged in with or on behalf of the child is a violation of the child’s right to his thought and religion. It’s not for you as a parent or guardian to decide what religion is good for your child. By engaging in such act, you are simply forcing your world view on the child, and that is a violation of the child’s right to freedom of thought.

Whatever you may be thinking right now, remember that i didn’t make the Laws. Unfortunately, most children are abused by their guardians and parents, and forced to accept religious beliefs and views because the guardians or caregivers are feeding or caring for the child. The law of the land says this is wrong, an outright abuse and violation equal to rape, but more violent and brutal; a mental rape. Children should make religious choices of their own will or volition when they reach the age of consent.

In summary, every religious act you did for or on behalf of your child is a violation of his freedom of thought and religion because the child never gave consent. Knowing better or being the child’s parents or guardian is not the issue. The violation and violent mental invasive rape lies in the fact that the child didn’t consent to your religious or non-religious imposition.


Drops pen!

Joagbaje:
They believe in God . They know there's God they just trying to deny him his title by their rebellion out of whatever got them angry. Loss of nother ,father, failure,struggle etc.

Tai solarin had issue with government and was put in prison . He gave God deadline to get home out or else... that's how he denies God. You don't give condition to God. You follow his condition.

Maximus69:
Your PERSONAL opinion Sir!

Daejoyoung:
You are making thesame mistake over and over again, you seem to think you know better than all religous people.
He already said here that he was once an atheist, and then became religious. Ain't you willing to entertain the thought that perhaps he is the one who has surpassed your level, understands your thought process already, and knows better than you?

Maximus69:
I've been saying this for some time now but it's funny that you're now agreeing with what i told you guys.

The title GOD means Supreme Being, so if there's a supreme being somewhere and some people claim to be his worshipers, the only evidence to prove they know what they're saying is oneness in thought.
With their God, they should be able to resolve all the differences in their midst, they will not think of harming anyone because the one who is supreme will definitely take care of that. They will rely on his promises and wait patiently for him to act.

In the absence of that whoever claims to be a believer is just another atheist though misinformed!

Sabr1na:
Have bible readers tagged Covid-19 to be a plague yet? Like trying to say it’s in the Revelation Yet? Just curious if Christians have brought that up?

What’s happening now in life, outside of fiction. We keep doing bad things to mother earth, she’s going to kick our asses more if things proceed as they are. But has nothing to do with a deity.

Oh, and these predictions have been happening 100s of times over the years already! None have actually happened! Like Y2K. LOL. Then 2012.

Christianity is fiction

Image123:
Thinkers that don't think. Are those ones thinkers? Atheism does not believe in the existence of God or any god, atheism does not support or believe the idea of a creator. Religions do, christians do, muslims do. Do you guys need more fellows in the same boat or what sort of unthinking is this?

Kobojunkie:
Therein lies your problem. You really believe yourself better than them just because they are Christians.
You have somehow convinced yourself they are beneath you...
Yet you think yourself a free-thinker and open-minded at that?

Bacteriologist:
Haha ikr he's honestly one of the most devoted Christian apologists on this forum nowadays.

When I debate these guys I don't do it for the sake of it. I do it because of readers, in now and in future, who are looking for answers and are perhaps sitting on the fence.

That way I think it's much more easier to keep sane while discussing people who think fairytales are true even in the face of contradicting evidence.

Tamaratonye5:
Hello, Kobojunkie.

May I know what your problem with his OP is?

Bacteriologist:
"All other gods, they are the works of men..."

"I will never worship man made god; man made god" are popular Christian songs.

"No god except Allah" is a popular phrase in the religion of Islam.

Nice try but you failed.

Daejoyoung:
Exactly, I know this particular arguement, it's an old one. It's just that the op took it so seriously, lol.

LordReed:
This is a bit of tongue in cheek humour taken too far. This is not a strenuous argument for how religious people are also atheist, it is just a bit of word play to show that religious people don't apply the same standard of scrutiny they apply to the religion of others to their own.

Kobojunkie:
Dude, you need to work on your logic skills!

Kobojunkie:
That is not even a thing!

Kobojunkie:
While you provided your opinion on the issue, I stuck with the facts.
It was not an opinion. That definition came from

This one is from the dictionary!

Daejoyoung:
lol, in a nutshell you are saying religious people are not as logical as you are, that's simply ridiculous.

Religious people have invented more things in this world than atheists have ever done(and atheists have always been around from the time of Epicurus at least), so don't connect atheism and intellect by default.

Even the big bang theory was first propagated by a catholic priest in the 20th century ( a century full of atheists).

Not all Religous people accept anything at face value.

The philosophy is not unfounded, and we are still thinking deeply about these questions today.
Don't you think there is a probability that atheists generally are the ones not thinking deeply enough.

When you think deeply, you leave religion. That however is only the first step, when you think deeply enough, you know better than to pride in either atheism or religion .

Kobojunkie:
But you need to stick to the definitions here...



I did that.

Daejoyoung:
1) Because it is more likely than unguarded evolution of everything.
2) Because it likely created everything or at least directed evolution.
3) Maybe, Maybe not.

It was propagated by the Christian philosopher Thomas Aquinas as well as Muslim philosophers, all in answer to philosophical questions.

Daejoyoung:
Lol, my next sentence wasn't showing the affirmative to that question. The "if so" in that sentence was conditional. That post was not saying deists are atheists, but on the contrary, trying to show the weakness of affirming so, to make you realize the futility of using the term "atheist" generically.

Daejoyoung:
If you define atheism like this, then it is a useless term and loses its meaning because apart from universalists, everyone disbelieves in one God or the other, simply saying we are all atheists to some thing, makes no difference.

The term atheism is now specifically used to distinguish people who do not entertain the question of God ( any God ) as necessary.

Daejoyoung:
The bolded is not true. Again are deists religious? no they are not.

If a creator exist, then it answers a major philosophical question concerning the concept of God. You can say we should not worship the creator or call the creator God, but you would be in line with many theists who believe in a creator, as the answer to why we are here.