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popovich:
[whipping a horse is not considered as an abuse because that is there nature. You have to whip them so that they can be more effective during a race or journey. I understand the posters point of view but that comparison won't work. Infact ask yourself why is that it's only horse that gets whipped?

You have been socially conditioned to believe it's okay to whip a horse for a sport because millions of dollars is generated from horse racing, that doesn't mean whipping a horse for sport is not animal abuse.

That it's legal doesn't mean it's right.

Data have shown this animals get injured during this sport and some even died after,but then it's okay and not an animal abuse because it's legal ?

Horses basically told you it's her nature to be subjected to animal abuse as a sport ?

Below are some articles,educate yourself !

https://animalsaustralia.org/latest-news/science-reveals-whips-hurt/

https://nsw.animaljusticeparty.org/the-facts-about-horse-racing/

leofab:
check the definition of pets… bye

Check the definition of animal cruelty...bye !
[Read the screenshots and educate yourself ]

MNDY:
A Horse is not a pet as such like dogs and cats? The horses in those competitions are not considered pets. Besides, they are being used for an organized competition event accepted by laws of their land. Animal (pet) Cruelty is a very big deal to Oyinbo people and has been a thing long before now. Zouma made a terrible mistake. How many cases of Animal Cruelty do you hear of? That's to show you how serious the matter is. He deserves every punishment he is getting because it's a big deal to Oyinbo people.

That's it's legal doesn't make it right.

Animal cruelty laws extend to virtually every animals [ check the screenshot below ],and not just about how you handle your cats and dogs.

That a nation that claims to love animals so much sees nothing wrong in whipping horses for sport with thousands of spectators cheering on in the background, for generations now,should have elicited concern from you.

Is it really about the love they have for animals in general or about the money those animals generate to their economic growth ?

Cats and dogs generates billion of dollars for the UK economy annually,hence,they have ministry and laws seeing to the welfare of this animals.
Also,horse racing generates lots of money to the UK economy,and despite the sufferings this animals are subjected to under the guise of sport,the UK government sees nothing wrong with it.

Do you now understand where I'm headed for ?

It's not about the love they have for those animals, it's more about the money they both generates,even though one [ horse in this case] is subjected to whipping to achieve such goal !

Think !

MNDY:
By Animal Cruelty, they strictly mean Pets: Cats, Dogs etc.

Are you sure about that ?

[ Check the screenshots below to educate yourself ]

Now that we have establish the fact that animal cruelty is not exclusively about brutality to your pets [ cats and dogs ],can you now answer the question I asked earlier on ?

lexy2014:
The hypocrisy that lies in the western society. Beautiful write up

Thank you.

abobote:
Trash. Horse is horse and cat is cat

Interesting !



So ,you don't see anything wrong in whipping horses for sport because they are not cats ?

Lol..

On a side note ,why is kicking a cat considered animal cruelty,but whipping a horse for a sport is considered okay and normal by the same country with the highest population of "animal lovers" ?

For generations now,subjecting a horse to thousand of whips for sport ,which is televised in the UK ,with thousands of "animal lovers" in the background cheering on, is not considered animal cruelty,rather it's popularly seen as a sport.
The law generally stated that animals with backbone have a right to happiness as well as avoiding suffering,in the UK,then why is whipping a horse for a sport an exception ?

There have being data that some of this horses suffer injuries and even death after the sport,why is that not a concerned for the "animal lovers" ?

The one reason I see is that horse racing is a million dollar industry that generates lots of money ,and they are ready to condone the abuse subjected to this horses as long as they generate huge money for their economy and not really because they genuinely care about the welfare of animals in general.

Despite calls and petitions for Kurt Zouma's contract to be terminated,and for him to face jail time for kicking a cat, his manager, David Moyes have insisted that the player,Kurt Zouma,is still available for selection for their next match against Leicester city !
Now,this is getting more interesting.

What do you all think ?

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/breaking-kurt-zouma-cat-moyes-26205807

Godmademan:
Seems you don't know what BEASTS OF Burden are. Work animals are different from home pets. The animal has no problem with the strokes whatsoever. If it does it will throw off the rider.

"Beast of burden", you said ?

Because you have been socially conditioned to believe a horse is a "beast of burden",and doesn't deserves to be treated with care and love, doesn't change the fact that subjecting any animal to thousands of whips for a sport, is animal cruelty !

So, basically the animal told you it enjoys being subjected to thousands of whips for a sport ?

Do you have an idea what conditioned reflexes is ?

With due respect, you're beginning to sound dumb & unreasonable,and it's waste of time engaging someone who believes a defenceless horse told him that he loves being subjected to sufferings and thousands of whips,and it's okay,and it's not also an animal abuse.

You're nothing but just another animal abuser who have being enjoying abusing another animal for generations under the guise of a sport and entertainment ,who is pointing finger at someone who treated his animal wrongly,too.
In essence, you're a bloody hypocrite !

Done engaging you,Mr animal lover .

Htown64:
I guess you are just being mischievous with this post knowing fully well that most people here will run with the headline without reading the whole story. This lady suffered more than Zouma because she was fined by a judge, resigned her job because she couldn't stand the shame of facing her colleagues at work, received death threats from all over the world and ended up paying more than the £250. Zouma never appeared before a judge and was only fined by his club. West Ham played him in their next game which resulted in a backlash from all sectors of the society and in the process lost their sponsorship deal with vitality and one other company from the US, and I know more will follow. At least Zouma still has his job.

You're the mischievous fellow, here !

Last time I checked,zuoma is still under investigation by the RSPCA,and a petition with more than 50 thousand signatures is ongoing for him to go to jail,and there have been cry for his contract to be terminated already.

Zouma have received way more punishment and fine than that woman already,even though his case is still under investigation.

Godmademan:
I don't think you watched that video. I don't think you watched that video. I believe he would not be in this mess if the video was of him caning the cat some strokes. Even children and dogs are caned to discipline them. The video showed the animal being kicked about like size 4 football and the brother recording and laughing his gut out. Even a human can't be kicked like that in the name of discipline. That is battery.

I watched the video,and he kicked the cat once.
Not justifiable,but certainly not as terrible and a horror show as horses receiving thousands of whips in the same country that claims to love animals,as a sport .

The real battery is flogging sh*t out of a horse under the guise of a sport,and thousands of "animal lovers" are in the background screaming their voice out with pleasure !
That's the real abuse,but as expected,you saw nothing wrong with that.

If you so much love animals,why is such public display of battery and assault of an animal with backbone ,with thousands spectators cheering in the background not a concern to you ?

I asked you a question about your " hot take" on what the horses receiving thousands of whips as a sport in UK is,you have being blabbing ever since !.

So much for your love for animals !.

Godmademan:
I hope we learn though that not every thing is for the social media. He's in this mess cos of the recording. His assault could have passed unnoticed. His brother was chasing clout with it and put Kourt in this mess

Basically, you're admitting the hypocrisy these "animal lovers" in the UK shamelessly display ,because the last time I checked,that sport is televised and they,the "animal lovers", come from far and near to watch another animal being subjected to pains and suffering in the name of sport,but when dogs or cats are involved,they scream "animal cruelty" .

I want you to understand something here ,sir,I'm not justifying zouma's attitude toward that cat,in that video,but bringing to your conciousness how this "animal lovers" have being subjecting another animal to sufferings under the disguise of a sport,but then ,draw the line when another animal ,dog and cat,in this situation,receive similar treatment.

Hypocrisy and double standard at it peak !

Like the law said,which you posted ;

" The laws says animals with a backbone have a right to happiness as well as avoid suffering ".

Every single one of them !
No single animal deserves to be subjected to suffering,even for a sport purpose.

Godmademan:
It's a stimulus to go faster. That's the message the animal understands. The horse wouldn't obey command if not we'll taken care of.

Interesting take.

But beating a cat or dog when they mess up your room is "animal cruelty",and not a stimulus for them to behave better ?

Basically, instilling discipline to your pets when they misbehave is "animal cruelty",even when they are well taken care of ?

But subjecting another animal with backbone to suffering is okay,because it's sending a stimulus to the animal to run faster,after all , it's well taken care of ?

cardoctor:
Is horse and cat the same animal?

" The laws says animals with a backbone have a right to happiness as well as avoid suffering "

As that guy asked you earlier on, what do you think about this popular sport in the UK ?

[quote author=Godmademan post=110132358][/quote]------++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Okay.

" The laws says animals with a backbone have a right to happiness as well as avoid suffering "

Below is a popular game in the UK,what do you think ?

Feggie3:
This is because black men know nothing but vile... They rape and abuse women (take a look at nairaland for instance), they rape children in the name of pedophilia and blame it on satan, they dehumanize and even kill LGBT people, they kill and eat all sort of animals, the dupe white men and are lawless both home and abroad. They are just brutal and indoctrinated with toxic masculinity in the name of street.

Black men should call themselves to order because what is yet to face them will even meet their 7th generation.

You f*cking piece of sh*t !



I can drop you thousands of links where white persons committed the same crimes you're dragging blacks for.

Here you go !

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-50053873.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/why-are-white-men-more-likely-to-carry-out-mass-shootings-11252808


https://www.justice.gov/usao-ednc/pr/33-year-old-pedophile-montana-civilly-committed-sexually-dangerous-person

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2010/oct/19/cat-bin-woman-mary-bale

gypsey:
It's a Cat!! Cats do not behave like humans, for some reason you want Cats to know what is right or wrong. i don't care what the Cat did. But then even if he wants to punish the Cat, why did he record it? That is my curiosity, maybe people kick their Cats everyday but we don't know that because they didn't film the kicking on their phone, what were they going to do with the recording? Enlarge it and place on their bedroom walls?

It's his problems now let him deal with it.

K.

gypsey:
Well.. you can say that if you like, the question is, why did Zouma did what he did? What was his motives? It doesn't make sense why he kiecked a Cat and filmed it, why? What did he stands to gain from it?

Much of my life,I have realized that we are more focused on people's reaction ,rather than the action that might have triggered such reaction.
Now,if you're really concerned,or seek an answer to your questions,you should be asking what did the cat did that might have triggered such reaction from zouma.

Did he piss where he/her is not suppose to ?

Defecated where he/her is not suppose to ?

Was the cat just on his/her own and zouma decided to start kicking it across the room for no justifiable reasons ?

jrusky:
But wait a minute did the guy you quoted said anything against you or mentioned your name? Pls what brought calling him a bastard into this just tell me?

I think you went too far bro quiet unfair.

When someone intentionally decide to go dirty and low,you should ensure to go dirtier and lower than them !
He deserves every single vile backlash he's getting,since he have decided to kick a brother ,harder,when he's down and need his support.

rickpat:
you see why we are where we are...a law is broken,the sanctions roll out...and we call it racism..too bad....zouma wasn't reported by anyone...he did what he did..his bro filmed it and posted it...is that not mocking the law?...there is racism but this particular issue...zoumas went too far...so blacks should stop playing the VICTIMS CARD..someone has been jailed before for partaking in DOG FIGHTING BETTING...he got about two years jail term...order to pay $1m for the care and adoption for the dogs he has been fighting....read about MICHEAL VICK,he was an American football star...that scandal halted his career.... ANIMAL CRUELTY IS NO JOKE...zouma go get am hot..this is no racism

Micheal Vick is a white ,right ? .

Despite the discrepancies in the punishment administered,and meltdown witnessed,when a white and a person of colour commits the same crime, which many are trying to point out the obvious, you and your likes are still too myopic to see beyond your noses.

gypsey:
The difference is the woman is not a £120000 a week footballer and she is a woman and white.


Zouma or whatever his name is? Should ve known that he is a negro. He shouldn't go about messing with Cats or dogs in England, in England most white people loves Dogs and Cats more than humans.

Most white people don't love cat and dogs more than humans,they love cat and dogs more than blacks !

That's how highly they rate blacks .

rickpat:
.... sometimes I just doubt the sanity of some people...you are in.a land where you should know about the laws that protect animals..now you brutalized a cat,another devil told your bro to film it and a bigger devil told him to post it...for what reason?...the zoumas have not told us what their problem is.... ANIMAL CRUELTY IS NO JOKE ABROAD...they should have the music... rubbish!..

Please,next time don't mention me to make this kinda submission.

Do have a great day.

MITCHELL96:
You see ? That's what I'm also saying, when it's something that has to do with BLACKS, they take it personal, He Zouma has cost a lot of damage to himself, family and most importantly the club that pays him

The club has lost some deals with big brands just because of him, he's kind of lucky the club is showing some support to him, if it was some OTHER racial club, I swear, they would have terminated his contract already.

I'm disappointed in him, this is just an animal case, I was asking, what if it was a rape case ?

Basically, it's safe to say that the taking of kneel gesture before any match kick-off in EPL is charades and hypocrisy,at it peak.

It's safe to say that racism never went away and no measure was actually in place to tackle it.

You should not be disappointed in zuoma !

He erred,but the punishment and meltdown is just overboard ,and have helped in bringing to more people's consciousness about systemic racism that every person of colour suffers in most western countries, irrespective of your position or status in the society.

You should be disappointed in the lies that UK media have being feeding the gullible that they care about people of colour,when in reality,they don't.
Direct your disgust and disappointment to such lies.

MITCHELL96:
Zouma made a big mistake! Why kick and slap your cat for reasons we don't know huh ? something you call your pet and also let your bro or whoever that taped it to post it

Even if it offended you, can't you tolerate it ?
Have Chelsea & West ham fans not been tolerating you when you were playing shit ?

What's wrong with Blacks sef ? He doesn't know he's in a foreign land where you can't try some certain shits, now what he did has made Adidas end their sponsorship relationship with him and also cost his brother's job

And I heard he's been fined £250K, that's half of what USA president earns yearly


Next time, he should use his Senses very well and know that these white lads don't tolerate nonsense and most of them don't love we blacks and are ready to take common things way too far to make sure we're ridiculed

What zuoma did is wrong.
He deserved to be punished,since there is a law against such.
But then, it's becoming too much !
He have lost his adidas deal,he have being fined,some of the organizations sponsoring westham united are withdrawing,and some are calling for his source of livelihood be taken away from him.
It's becoming personal .

Don't you think so ?

Below is a white woman that committed similar crime,and the punishment she received,what do you think ?

Kurt Zouma’s younger brother, Yoan, banned from playing for Dagenham and Redbridge after filming West Ham star’s cat incidence.

Source:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/17613184/kurt-zouma-brother-yoan-banned-cat-attack/?utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=sunfootballtwitter&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1644508333

Iceberg3:
I have chosen to be a piece of shit ! My c*nt of a father and mother supports my choice.

Good for you !

sukkot:
bro, these are their societal rules. adhere to it or stay out of there country if its too hard to adhere to their laws. its a simple sturves. they respect pets in their country. if you dont respect pets stay in your country

I got no time no people that are going to end up blabbing all day,when you ask them a simple question.

Have a great day.

Iceberg3:
Can you please just Google the word culling?

You have not answered my question.

What's your point exactly ?

backtalkG:
Flatin0s have moved their canibal business to the west

Keep blaming the South easterner for your problems until your sons excavate all your kinsmen skulls into extinction !

Nvestor02:
[[s]quote author=agulion post=110095697]Yoruba Muslims have distroyed the SW , most of the mosques in the SW are been used for human parts transactions [/s]

IPOB TERRORIST don start their madness again, Mputu miri drug dealer get lashes in everywhere they go.

A tribe that is about to go to extinction.... The way Asian countries are killing them like chicken is alarming...... No jail you will go in this world that you won't find igbo man there

That's why you're being advised to take your drugs daily.

johnmartus:
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Continue deceiving yourself the fact is that we don't cover bad people here we always exposed the bad eggs among us not like you guys that covered anything just to make thing look great.

This ritualist plenty in your region because media not pay attention to it doesn't mean you should come here to saying nonsense.

Keep wailing ,while your daughters and sons keep excavating your kinsmen's skulls for a living.

sukkot:
meat will be eaten. animal cruelty in society is frowned on. just accept that order or dont japa to their country. thats how they keep their country. if you dont like it stay in your village in bayelsa

Is killing an animal for meal, whether regulated or governed ,a less cruelty or non-cruelty than kicking one ?