₦airaland Forum

This should be on the frontpage now.... mods please do the usual... Say no to PDP's Rigging system of govt..

agabaI23:
We are discussing national issues not regional issues. So whatever it is you wanna say that is not national, forget!

That's a weak Strawman Argument......I'm not talking about regional issues, I am asking you what part of the country you're from... How hard can this be?

agabaI23:
Post your rebuttal if you have any. Your rebuttal cannot be geographic or ethnic. We are talking about Nigeria.

My rebuttal would be useless if I don't know what part of the country you're from...really..
Trust me on this will you..

agabaI23:
Is that necessary? We are all Nigerians, North, South , East, West

Yes it is neccessary before I post my rebuttal...

You've been answering Good before now... Please continue.. Its all so we can find a common ground..

agabaI23:
Go here and see full length list.

https://www.nairaland.com/2129776/lets-fair-jonathan-done-well/6#30497231

What part of the country are you from?

agabaI23:
You don't know?

Is that all...?.. I hope you have more
that's before I post a rebuttal...

agabaI23:
That's because he has so many skeletons in his cupboard

Like?. Givr examples

The rate at which Anti-Buhari's thread hit the frontpage nowadays is quite alarming..

Make I quickly book space until after the meeting

Samchelsea:
seriously bro let's leave this issue cos you don't know me personally so don't jump into hasty conclusion by what you read here. If you put me through a lie detector test I'll come out clean on that my reply. No one is above mistake but in that case I knew what I was saying and indeed I understood her very well, If you study the word "sarcasm" very well you notice it in that comment, which was blended with direct reply. I don't know how to explain it very well to you bro but trust me am not that arrogant not to admit to a mistake if I make one

I guess I'd leave it at this.... But I bet if you weren't partisan, your view about this would have been different...

Samchelsea:
its okay, you are entitled to your own opinion

This attribute of yours "Incorrigiblity" 'lld take you no where. Admitting to our mistakes is not a sign of weakness but one of strenght....

Samchelsea:
I understood your point clearly, but couldn't waste my time as well answering it to your satisfaction...shalom!

Quite frankly and honestly..you did not understand her statement..

The Heat is on... The wind of unstoppable Change blowing..

Buhari

Kenny4lyfe:
Gbenga Sesan is dead wrong. This is indomie generation digital age not babadudu and condense lolly technology of the 80s.
He even shot himself on the foot when he was trying to explain IPv4 and IPv6.
I took my time to check one of those IPs and here's a screenshot of what I got.
In this day and age, pictures speaks better than a thousand words.

Where art thou brains.. the picture you posted shows 226 and not 256 . 226 is well allowed.. Remember the rule allows digits from 0-255.. I dont know what school you attended but 226 is far less than 255.
I hope you didnt attend the same school ad PEJ.
255.255.255.255 is the maximun you can get
therefore 226.226.226.226 is very much allowed.

tit:
I no say i no go school,
but the small boy wey dey this computer center sabi am for computer.

I dont blame you.. when your master is clueless, I really dont expect much from you..
Next time you want to lie, at least be smart about it..

While you we're running about looking for lies to fill the void, did the page you copied your hoax from forget to tell you those are inside address that cant be used on the Internet?
Read something girl.. currently I'm more concerned about your moniker.. It reads a lot about you..

I'm 100% sure you are partisan......

Is it just me or did the date on the paper piece read Jan 30th 2015

These Tanoids never seem to amaze me..

This is PDP's last card.... let them enjoy it well oh

Isinimibo:
Isinimibo
Certificate with ABOKI Cap, bros what is wrong in this country?

I'm sure as he!l you dont have a certificate

Arubi78:
I thought it was recently that waec started issuing result with picture. why buhari come appear with cap for him result now.

Where art thou brains...

Babare:
Good. To stay in the learning zone is the best way. But without a good foundation, many acquired knowledge will be in vain. In Africa, our problem is that leaders are either ignorant or negligent of the sound philosophical foundation upon which democracy was formed. Would you say Mugabe, Biya and some other African leaders are not learning new things as the day passes? At least they see other developed nations and should learn from them. BUT WHEN THE FOUNDATION IS FAULTY, IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING (Neligence).

I am not partisan. I only hope GEJ is succeeded by someone better. Not the aged GMB.

I like where you bolded: Qualified personnel may receive more formal
education to enable them to advance professionally. I thought you would be careful to observe QUALIFIED personnel & PROFESSIONALLY. Whilst a man was trying to gain admission into the NIGERIAN DEFENSE ACADEMY, he had a problem as he did not meet the complete requirement to study civil engineering (5 yrs course). Meanwhile, some of his friends who were impatient went ahead to join the army as tradesmen with the same O'level which he had. It is only qualified personnel that receive more formal education; not everyone. GMB joined the army in 1962, and in 1963, he was already decorated a second-lieutenant. After around one of education, would you call that formal??


The Ph.D means Doctorate of Philosophy. And Philosophy means "The Science of All Things Through Their Ultimate Causes". Anyone who studies to the PhD level doesn't just research on the given course. There is a blend of philosophy, and this makes him philosopher (or perhaps, Philosopher in the loose sense).

Good respobse but cant post my rebuttal now. On phone, touch screen gives me the creeps. Would do when I'm on my PC..

We'll have to disagree in this case. I think you have a bad background knowledge of what Military Education entails. Of course, this is in contrast with your statement about the Military Education being Informal.

Military Education, training of the officers and enlisted (or drafted) personnel of a nation's military and naval forces. The goal of such training is to equip members of the services with the basic skills and discipline needed for appropriate action under the stress of combat. Qualified personnel may receive more formal education to enable them to advance professionally.
Until the mid-18th century, military training was restricted to drill and acquiring knowledge of weaponry and tactics primarily from practical experience in battle. The technological evolution of warfare, however, led to the establishment of formal military and naval academies specifically for training professional officers.
In the U.S., the Reserve Officers Training Corps (ROTC) programs in high schools and colleges prepare students for commissions in the Army Reserve. The United States Military Academy is a 4-year engineering college whose graduates are commissioned into the Regular Army. Corresponding service institutions are the United States Naval Academy, the United States Air Force Academy, the United States Coast Guard Academy, and the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy (see Merchant Marine of the United States). Officers may pursue advanced studies at the Army Command and General Staff College (Fort Leavenworth, Kansas), the Army War College (Carlisle, Pennsylvania), the Naval War College and the College of Naval Command and Staff (Newport, Rhode Island), the Air War College and the Air Command and Staff College (Maxwell Field, Alabama), and the Marine Corps Command and Staff College (Quantico, Virginia) .
In addition, the Armed Forces Staff College in Norfolk, Virginia, operated by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, prepares selected officers for coordinated endeavors, and the U.S. Department of Defense maintains the National Defense University in Washington, D.C. Comprising the National War College, the Industrial College of the Armed Forces, and the Department of Defense Computer Institute, the university trains senior officers and selected civilians in theories and procedures relevant to national security

Babare:
I only want to answer your two questions, as I believe these answers will help you understand better.

YOU ASKED: Do you think Buhari is uneducated?
Considering the fact that he was once the
HOS.

Being the head of state has nothing to do with education. Going a little above common sense is what our society regard as education. But this is wrong. The term 'formal education' should ring a bell. It is not just any education, it is formal. GMB has no formal education. He only received military trainings and learnt some technical know-hows, but with the issue of his certificate still clearly in voke - we would see he has no formal education. However to us, GMB is educated. But to the world, he has no formal education.

If we we're to go by the qualification of a formal education, I'd boil it more to specifics and at this we should be questioning why a zoologist (pHD) should be running the Nigerian State. Your replies so far does show you are in a way partisan saying you're not would be untrue.
Secondly I think you have violated the context of belief in this case. If you believe an individual with Military education does not have what it takes to run our state, this should also pose a question on whether a zoologist (Note I'm an Agriculturist) should be allowed to run our state when clearly the modules that led to his qualification does not in anyway inculcate/includes how to govern a state. The former does in some way directly or indirectly teach these concept.

Another quuestion is. If you believe Buhari's govtbis too old, is the current govt keeping up with the trend of true
democracy?

No Nigerian president has ever upheld the tenets of democracy than GEJ. He has given the press their deserved freedom. We can openly criticise him using our freedom of speeches and expressions. And he signed the FOI bill into law. No serving public administrator has the courage to do so. You know of all the missing monies because of the FOI bill. Go research more on how GEJ has helped our democracy.

It is for the growth of our democracy that I say GMB is never ideal for us. He belongs to the old world of forceful rule.

You don't seem to understand what is at stake here, you claim the incumbent holds/upheld the tenets of democracy but you're not telling us how he has made the system better. This is a weak straw-man's fallacy; Shagari also did uphold the tenets of democracy and did it move us forward? these are questions we should be asking. We know of missing monies because he signed the FOI bill into the law YES but till date where are these monies? It is not just about creating a system, it is making sure the system works.
Should you criticize the presidency and he refutes your criticism, then what have you achieved positively.?

Whether formal or informal education, the best way to approach development is to stay in the learning zone. It's not just about having a pHD, its finding someone who can chart the part to progress without violating the constitution and standard moral values.

Joel3:
hello nigeria and nairaland.

The india IT expect hired and working for the federal government has crack down my number with highteck hacking.

My life and security has been threaten. I have been place on monitoring and all tracking records

Just for my support for a political party on nairaland.

They have gone to my whatsapp.

So be careful friends and watchful.

Pictures of PDP sending you threats or (you know the drill)

@Op did a nice Job taking pictures from strategic angles to cover the flop of the Campaign... keep decieving GEJ aiit..

Babare:
True, character and competence defines a good leader. But in the face of a rising democracy - which belongs to the new world, age matters. The operators of democracy must be conversant with the trends of the new world if they are to truly uphold the tenets of democracy. A man past 60 definitely belongs to the old world as he is even older than mist African nations. Age is a differentiating factor in this sense as those in time understand and uphold what is in voke. I am not saying a man at 60 cannot operate democracy rightly. I am saying such a man must be in voke to understand what is trending.

In the analogy, you'd see that all the leaders listed belong to the old world, and are refusing to accept what is trending.


The only solution here is education. LEADERSHIP WILL NEVER BE RIGHT UNTIL LEADERS ARE EDUCATED.


THOSE OF OUR GENERATION ARE WELL EDUCATED AND WELL BRED. CHARACTER AND COMPETENCE DOESN'T JUST APPEAR.

In the current situation of the Nigerian state when it come to leadership, age doesn’t matter much, rather competency does though I agree with you very much on the aspect of education: But if Education is your foundation of your premise, then I should ask the question

Do you think Buhari is uneducated? Considering the fact that he was once the HOS.

Back to the argument; History is replete with leaders who have succeeded and failed at every age. The possessive traits of passion, character, commitment, discernment, and talent are of infinitely greater importance than age. In essence, it's never about your age but about your ability to contribute.

Whether an individual is young or aged is not really the issue, competency is. Regardless of age, venturing beyond your area(s) of competency can be a very dangerous thing to do.

A wise man once said that there are generally two types of people, "Those
that don’t know what they don’t know, and those that do know what they don’t know". All other things being equal, the difference between the two groups boils down to experience and discernment. Those people who don’t know what they don’t know typically tend to be either younger Individuals beginning their careers who have a lack of experience, or older professionals who have not gained wisdom and maturity as they have progressed along their career path.

These individuals operating outside of experiential and/or educational boundaries are met with failure and frustration by having what appear to be great ideas eventually unwound by unforeseen factors that only were unforeseen to them due to their inexperience or lack of discernment.

Regrettably it has taken our current government more than time on the
job to attain the true professional maturity needed to run our Nigerian state. An example is our president who after 6years of governance still does not know what to do, this is majorly because he does not know what he doesn't know. With religious sentiments and ethnic bigotry in the already complex equation, it has become a common practice for our leader to operate in a vacuum believing that his experience alone is a cure-all for any issue or problem.


Another quuestion is. If you believe Buhari's govtbis too old, is the current govt keeping up with the trend of true democracy?

scribble:
What really went down in Minna....in photos....

F*ck public school...

Good leaders are crafted from tough times, even failure. Necessary experience rarely comes before 50. There is a prime age, like wine in which credibility is Established. In the case of a country like Nigeria, Character and courage are more important factors to take to consideration than age "If you're corrupt while young, so much won't change about you when you grow old. Mostly in our system of govt, when a leader is replaced, everything else change; for the better or the worse. But more than is generally realized, the effectiveness of leaders depends on the context around them.
The best leaders pay a great deal of attention to the design of elements around them: they articulate a lucid sense of purpose, create effective leadership teams, prioritize and sequence their initiatives carefully, redesign organizational structures to make good
execution easier, and most important,
integrate all of these tactics into one coherent strategy. This is something our current leaders lack.
In essence, age might be a factor but not in the current situation of the Nigerian State. Your analogy with past leaders does not entirely fit into this context: The context of Morals and Integrity that is.

all this men spewing trash... God will arrest you all

Whoever posted tis... Ain't ever used a WP8.1 device

orimion:
is your internet sharing working? Mine refuse to turn on(Lumia 822 locked to Verizon but now unlocked)

Yes it works... I thought Verison was a CDMA network...,?