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2emotional:
I've read that one too.... A lot have been going on in that awkuzu SARS there. And the worst part is that he was once transfered to bauchi( I no too remember sha) after series of petitions. Do you know that after few weeks they transferred him to Enugu and from Enugu back to awkuzu. Obiano never talk wetin dey between him and that anuofia.. So chukwu ma

Those guys are probably hitsquad for Anambra Govt

Neymar just overtook Ronaldo on Brazil all-time scorers list and is now advancing on Pele


Pele - 77 goals
Neymar - 63 goals
Ronaldo - 62 goals


Hazard Vs Neymar debate has aged well

They should just cancel all League seasons jare.

3 Cologne players just tested positive. That means Bundesliga restart just cannot happen anytime soon.

A player in Ligue 1 is in coma with Covid. Dybala is still positive 6 weeks later and said to be struggling with his lungs. He cannot get back to fitness anytime soon. Meanwhile De Ligt has been allowed to go home to Holland which will take 4 weeks before he is allowed to come out of Quarantine if he does return.

Any player that catches Covid on restart will just delay things, and if anyone dies or gets debilitating conditions, litigation will ensue

Dutch league, French and Belgian leagues are cancelled. I don't see how clubs from those countries can participate in UCL or Europa

EPL talking about playing in only 10 stadiums with tens of thousands of test kits required and training looking like a logistical nightmare. Even FA is saying they won't allow players to touch each other at corners and setplays etc and balls will have to be disinfected 4 times a match.

Then you have some players complaining that they also have families, children and parents and are scared.

Summary of all this, is they should just cancel the season.

covid2019:
Or just open a domiciliary account to hedge against naira fall and continue saving.
What do you think please?

You are a smart man with what you have achieved already.

Opening a domiciliary account is by far the best option.

Naira will depreciate drastically with oil price and IMF conditions, and with what's to come in the economy, people will need to sell properties to raise cash to stay afloat.

Keep yourself in a market with demand (dollars) and stay out of a market that will have oversupply (Housing) after this period.

The domiciliary account will buy you a bigger house at the end of this COVID period.

Skimpledawg:
Happy new Month Guys.


Una doh.

I wish I had an App that could wish my fellow countrymen Happy New Nanosecond.

When average life expectancy is low, I suppose every new Monday and every new month is a cause for celebration.

With the way Corona is doing point and kill, it makes sense for me to join this trend of celebrating each new week and each new month.

spillo1:
LMFAO.....Who are those midfielders in Madrid that bomb forward that exposes their defense? Casemiro? Kroos, Modric? If so, what are their goal stats for the last 4 years? What am I reading here.

Good point. Another angle. Raumdeuter, what is your response?

Melvyn11:
Funny how now when it reaches Gerrard you will not bring out his goal tally to show how great he was. Now it's your eye test no longer stats. People are very funny

What is Gerrard goal record?

Gerrard best season was 23 goals and 7 of those goals were against TNS from Welsh league in Champions league pre-qualifiers. Plus Gerrard even played directly behind Torres some seasons.

I will still take Gerrard over 99% of Eunuchs though.

But KDB and Lampard are not eunuchs. Lampard is King of goals and KDB is King of Assists.

raumdeuter:
This is totally false. He plays in Madrid a system that doesnt play in low blocks, I have seen Ramos play in a protected system and he even did better than Terry and co

Let us see VVD in Madrid where no one does donkey work for him and he has to engage attackers every minute, not the one he will be pointing and giving orders

The same impeccable Canavaro in Juventus and Azzuri became a joke when he entered the Madrid system. That is what Ramos has been facing for the past 15yrs of his career

Liverpool play very high line Sir. Infact VVD and Matip are always on halfway line.

Boateng also deals with high line much better than Ramos. Even though we like to clown Boateng as part of regular trolling, I have never seen Boateng half as flustered in highline as I regularly see Ramos flailing all over the place on counterattack.

nitrogen:
You support Liverpool? I don't know why a reasonable person would pick Gerrard over KDB.....peak Gerrard kor, cowbell Steven niii

I'm a Chelsea fan and I would even pick KDB over Lampard talkless of Gerrard.

Gerrard ko, Gerrard ni.

Liverpool ex players control media in UK. Same way they overpromote Henderson today is how they overpromoted Gerrard then. Football is about emotions, and the Istanbul story turned Gerrard into a myth larger than the player himself. KDB is better.

raumdeuter:
This is totally false. He plays in Madrid a system that doesnt play in low blocks, I have seen Ramos play in a protected system and he even did better than Terry and co

Let us see VVD in Madrid where no one does donkey work for him and he has to engage attackers every minute, not the one he will be pointing and giving orders

The same impeccable Canavaro in Juventus and Azzuri became a joke when he entered the Madrid system. That is what Ramos has been facing for the past 15yrs of his career

Though I don't like Ramos, this is a decent point

Greatihex:
I was only giving you a taste of your own medicine, since you like to make bogus conclusions.
So, whether you like it or not, Chelsea won the league after they chased Lampard away and Manchester City could not win again after they got Lampard.

Now, tell us, how many points did Lampard’s goal get from the 10 starts?

Check assists and all round contribution also.

Last he was seen before he popped his hamstring against Spurs, he had already assisted twice in 28 minutes before his hamstring popped on the way to a 4-1 trashing of Spurs

After missing 2 games with injury, Pellegrini declined to return him to starting line up thinking his loan will expire soon, and that's when Chelsea accelerated away from City in the title race.

Greatihex:
Are you the only one who does not know that Lampard began to play as a CM in the later years of his career?
He played CM for Chelsea for years until he left. Partnering either Ramires or Mikel.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/frank-lampard/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/3163/plus/1?saison=&verein=281&liga=&wettbewerb=GB1&pos=&trainer_id=


Lampard scored 4 goals as a sub and 2 while starting. Now tell us, if going by your narrative, was Lampard more important as a sub or as a starter?

If Lampard was that good at that age to guarantee league win, why did he not win it for Chelsea that season that we were topping the league until Liverpool, and then Manchester City came to overtake us to win the league?


Like I said earlier, any manager starting Lampard in his team at that time, and hoping to win league with him is not only sick, but delusional.

I don't need you to tell me where Lampard played in his last years at Chelsea.

It is Chelsea's own stüpidity to push him deep prematurely for the useless shiny new toy of Oscar and yet Lampard was still outproducing Oscar and making key differences where it matters.

City allowed him the freedom to make the difference where he does it best, even in the last knockings of his career and he rewarded them with results.

What Lampard did in Chelsea, even as a DM was go on scoring runs to secure UCL qualification when needed and topping the Chelsea scoring charts in the process. Despite having the most impotent striker upfront, his goals were crucial to securing UCL qualification. You can check his scoring run under Benitez including the goals against Aston Villa that secured us qualification.

Take that Lampard despite another 2 years in his legs and put him infront of Fernandinho and Toure instead of dropping him in with the useless Mikel and Ramires, and what you get is 28 points from 10 starts.

Imagine trying to discredit Lampard saying his replacement with Fabregas is what won the league, when Lampard has been carrying Chelsea above their level for the last 2 years with the useless Torres and useless Ramires, Oscar and snail Mikel in midfield. If not for Lampard contribution that period of 2012 to 2014, na 7th or 8th position for sure pass. The introduction of Matic to knock out those 2 useless midfielders and the introduction of Costa to knockout the Spanish Eunuch were key pieces of development to winning the league, so stop creating story that removing Lampard for Fabregas was what won the league.

Greatihex:
The way you bring narratives from no where baffles me.

Lampard was so good at that age that he could guarantee league win, yet Mourinho had to chase him away to America with Fabregas (which mourinho described as the last piece of his puzzle) so that Chelsea could win the league.


Thank God that Pellegrini knows that the first job of a CM is to control midfield play before anything goals. That is why he usually brought in Lampard when legs were tired to come get the goals, which was the only thing left in his arsenal at that time.

This your narrative of city losing the league because Lampard was benched is one of your worst narratives.

The same Lampard that always looked like trembling if the ball is passed to him. Nigga will always release the pass with the speed of light so that small boys will not come and meet him with the ball is the person that you want a manager to be starting as a midfield achor just because he still knows how to score goals.

No manager in his right senses, who is serious to win title will be starting Lampard at that time.

I've always said you don't know how to watch football.

I don't argue with results and the result speaks for itself which is that City collected 28 points from the 10 games Lampard started.

By the time Pellegrini drafted him into the team in September, they were already far behind Chelsea yet Lampard kept them in the hunt. They expected his loan to finish that December so they had to prioritise their main players not short term loan and that is where they started dropping points.

At the bolded, when did you ever know Lampard to hold onto ball instead of passing quickly. I have told you, you don't know how to watch football, which is why you gravitate toward those who dance makossa on the ball unnecessarily. That same foolishness is what made you think Hazard is one of footballs greats to the point you lot were not far from comparing him with Messi and Ronaldo, when I have already told you 6 years ago that even KDB is better.

I have told you time without number that an AM job is to act quickly to exploit gaps not to control possession. Anywhere you like to check in this world, possession is controlled by the DM and CM. So definitely, there must be computer error in your brain if you are watching City expecting Lampard to hold ball instead of Fernandinho and Toure behind him. He did exactly what he came there to do which is make the difference at the right end of the pitch.

Melvyn11:
You brought lampard best ever league season which was 22 goals with 10penalties. You asked to remove the pks And he was left with 12 goals a . tally other midfielders (fabregas, Silva etc) has reached. So what is so exceptional about that seaon that you wont stop shouting about. Stop making noise with your useless lampard the penalty merchant. infact albino scholes best league season without pks was 14 a tally which lampard never achieved.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day just like Dele Alli and co had monster seasons and could not replicate consistently. That's why Lampard pocket is full and the ones you bring up record reads like binary code.

rationalmind:
This is why I stopped engaging in pointless arguments online. Even in the face of evidence, people like you will only dance around and repeat the initial argument like a broken record.

In the last 6 years, no midfielder has scored more than 12 non penalty goals in the premier league. The only midfielder to score more had 7 penalties.

If you extend it further to 10 years, only Yaya Toure has ever scored more than 12 non penalty goals.

So let me rephrase your argument so you see how ridiculous it sounds. "Ten years since Lampard the penalty merchant last scored 12 non penalty goals, only one midfielder has ever scored more."

Melvyn11 and Swissh are fools. They don't know how to interrogate data properly.

The Aguero and Salah challenging for golden boot are doing so with like 15 clean goals and 5 or 6 penalties.

They think it's beans for midfielder to score that amount clean. Maybe Messi and Ronaldo are the ones confusing them.

Greatihex:
which kind talk be this nah, oga Ibime. So, pelle should be starting a completely washed up Lampard just because he can pop up 1 or 2 goals by running to the front of goal?

Lampard that lost confidence and could not hold ball for 2 seconds. How will he run the midfield, then with young and energetic players against him. Nawao you o. This your Lampard love self.

Stop talking rubbish my friend. Because you refuse to engage your brain when watching football does not mean everyone is foolish when watching football.

Results speak for themselves and City won 9 and drew 1 of the 10 games Lampard started. Even the games he didn't start but was given decent minutes, he rescued points for City eg against Chelsea.

Every manager has right to prioritize the future of the club, but Pellegrini lost that league in the games he relegated Lampard to the periphery, not when Lampard was on the pitch.

There is a reason City fans adopted him as a club favourite despite only 1 season there in his twilight. If you don't have brain to watch football properly, just keep quiet and let those who know what they are watching summarise for you.

Melvyn11:
I have no business with the other goals he was scoring in the fa cup against Preston and the other yeye teams. League + champions league goals for lampard 2009/2010 = 23goals out of which 10 were Awoof pks. He scored only 13 goals from open play from champions league and league matches combined so nothing extraordinary there. Kdb already has 9 goals in league + champions league combined this season. Lampard is nothing but a pk merchant.

And KDB is odds on favourite for POTY with less goals and less assists with season almost done.

Lampard

09/10 - 17 clean goals
08/09 - 18 clean goals
07/08 - 16 clean goals
06/07 - 18 clean goals
05/06 - 14 clean goals
04/05 - 16 clean goals
03/04 - 15 clean goals

Bring your favourite midfielder own, let's judge.

kendrick93:
He's a great player but not a great defender

Good and succinct summary. Sometimes being a great player includes intangibles such as personality, scoring goals when unexpected etc. He does that. But he is not a great defender by any stretch of imagination.

Melvyn11:
2009/2010 Lampard scored 22 league goals with 10 awoof pks. He only had 12 goals from open play. Their is nothing extraordinary with 12 goals from open play even Kdb is already on 8 this season. Lampard the awoof pk merchant.

You are a big mumu. When they hold 20 goals as gold standard for a striker, you don't think that includes penalties?

The Aguero them that compete for golden boot with just 21 league goals per year, how many penalties do you think are included in their 21 goals?

Let's be clear - Lampard scored 27 goals in all comps that season with only 10 penalties in all competitions, so he had 17 clean goals.

Oya, give us your favourite midfielder own from his best season.

KDB is on 8 clean goals and being touted for POTY, but Lampard with 17 clean goals and 12 clean league goals is average. Continue.

Godx:
How can some people be shitting on Terry and Ferdinand and then go ahead to list Ramos that is wreckless, commit fouls, always out of position, makes mistakes weekly and with 25 red cards in his career as a great defender. That's an Error i repeat. Judging Ramos by his defensive ability he is a wack defender and a clown.
Just look at some of the amount of league goals conceded by Madrid for some seasons.


2018-19: 46

2017-18: 44

2016-17: 41

2015-16: 34

2014-15: 38

2013-14: 38

Madrid has averaged 40 conceded goals per season for the last 6 seasons.

Some people only wait till UCL final to judge.

Judging by UCL final alone, David Luiz is also a great defender

Melvyn11:
How won't he score goals at Chelsea when he takes all the Penalties. We have already dissected his best goalscoring season and it was all awoof penalties. Bring lampard season by season tally minus the awoof penalties you will see they were ordinary.

Can you take away penalties from his 27 goal season in 2009/10 and tell us. . . . then also bring your favourite midfielder own let us be the judge.

I'm not a big fan of Ramos, but I don't have energy to argue with those who will throw his trophies in my face.

If Ramos was that great, given his trophy count, they should be mentioning him with Maldini, Baresi and Mathhaus by now. Those guys trophy count is nowhere near Ramos, but no one would dare mention Ramos with them.

Ramos is simply a 7/10 to 7.5/10 defender. Madrid concede bucketloads in the league, and both Ramos and Varane always look suspect and disorganised. He should thank his lucky stars to be around in a great period. There are many 7/10 players in Great teams. Great teams only need a couple of 10/10 players, and the rest can be 7/10 and they will still be great. Gary Neville is a good example.

Leyqute:
He’ll also have to share the goals and assists with others.

That's like saying Ronaldo will have to share goals if he goes to City.

In a team that scores more, Lampard will simply score more.

The only full season Lampard played under Ancelotti, he scored 27 goals and made 20 assists. Obinojazz estimate of 15 goals and 10 assists is GROSSLY underestimated. This is a man who went 7 years at Chelsea popping 20 goals each year. In City who are scoring more, Lampard will score more, excluding penalties.

Even at 35/36 years old, he still went to the same City and was scoring every 160 mins. Infact, if not for getting 10 mins here and there, his average would be much higher. There was one point he dragged City back into the title race earlier in the season, scoring back to back to back. Pellegrini made a mistake to bench him for the 2nd half of the season, and that's when City dropped off the title race.

On the original question, I will still take KDB over Lampard though. I feel KDB can score more goals than he does if he plays further up, and he will out-assist Lampard also.

EvilMetahuman:
heard it's because he hasnt done much civ football like his opponent.

But that's African politics for you..

Cos you are the perfect fit for a position doesnt mean you get the job.
You gotta learn the politics.

One of the reasons everything in Africa is just whack..

This would be the obvious reason they would give. It may be true, or maybe they are running parole from which they feed their families, and Drogba is not in the inner circle of those paroles. Same reason why Segun Odegbami could not get far in NFF but we keep seeing nonentities like Amaju Pinnick.

I assure you, if both of us are running package somewhere and feeding our family from it, we would never allow even Obama or Mandela to come and take over.

It would be interesting to see who the voters are. If it's comfortable ex-Internationals like Dindane, Kalou, Toure them, then I will believe they truly feel Drogba is not the man for grassroots football. However if it's those hungry guys who never made money like Ivorien versions of Khadiri Ikhana, then I would say corruption is the main reason.

I would be very interested to know the reasons behind this result for Drogba. The man is extremely popular in CIV, he has political and philanthropic experience and an Accounting degree meaning he has brains for administration, but all of his colleagues refuse to vote for him. Is it African factor?

OPUSDEI1:
The OP wrote like an accountant.

But he makes sense

Mine is less than 2%

larride:
Both of them play together in EPL from 06 - 14. They both were in their prime. It’s not about any agend, for those years they played together, Vidic was better than him and his 2 times Premier league player of the year attest to the fact.

Since 94/95 that Premier league started awarding Player of the season, Vidic was the first defender to win it and as at today, he’s the only defender to win it twice.

When your fellow Manure fans sef are telling you, neutrals are telling you, you just need to respect what you didn't witness properly

raumdeuter:
I prefer defenders who have both techniques in their arsenal, So anyhow you bring it they are ready. Those Keane and Simeone can also guide into traffic while Makelele can also go hard on you

VVD is only effective where a coaches tactic makes it only that the defender only has to mop up, In Peps Man City or another pattern thats very offensive where the defence is always open and becomes 1 vs 1 quickly, Guiding into traffic wont work

VVD has both in his locker easily, just that he decided to play the Insurance role as Marip and Lovren are also tall and can engage, so let the most intelligent one sweep up.

You can have no better insurance than VVD because should the first engagement fail, he has the physical capacity for the last ditch, whether that is size, pace or strength. Most times, he never even needs to use the tackle because he will turn what should be a late ditch tackle into a simple shading where his size will just ease out the attacker. The only one or two times he delays the engagement and it turns to a goal, you will highlight it out of proportion, but he has a reason he delays till the last moment, and 95% of the time it works.

If you remember Madrid vs Leverkusen final, Makelele was tackling everything moving. I've never seen a midfielder tackle so much before. Soon as he came to Chelsea, he changed completely to a non-tackling midfielder that just guides you into danger because Chelsea played a low block and that was the less risky option of dispossessing you, unlike Madrid who played gung-ho so tackles were necessary. The point being that it is a choice which style to play and Makelele went with the non-confrontational option at Chelsea because he could afford to.

Same with VVD. His style is his choice but he is more than capable of doing both. Infact the style he has gone with is better for the team overall. Let's say he was playing with a natural sweeper like Lothar Matheus and co, he would be the one engaging while they sweep up.

Expert17:
Its yeye question,....because i can mention 7+ club legends he displaced both @ club and country level....

This is a very foolish question given that Vidic played for Serbia.

Ferdinand get luck say Vidic was not English otherwise he would be the one on the bench watching Vidic play.

timbros:
Truth is coming out small small. So VVD avoids 1 vs 1 so that Matip/Gomez and TAA/Robertson fall back to help out.? Hmmmm talk about community defending.

I have no problem with both styles of defending TBH. I don't have to see aggressive defending nor do I have to see clean defending to rate you. Whichever one you are doing, just do it well.

Just like you have Roy Keane, Edgar Davids and Diego Someone that can kill you with tackles, or you have Makelele who hardly tackles but specializes in guiding you into traffic. Both are still great DMs.

VVD style of defending is very effective for me, same as Vidic that will engage you.

Expert17:
How will ferninard play well with this team

Caroll/Howard
G.Neville Ferdinard. Brown/Oshea/Silvestre P.neville/Heinze

(thou, he was in team of the year 2004/2005)
Vidic will struggle with this players

Sorry to tell you, the only weak player there is Silvester and Carroll who are backups anyway.

All the rest are easily capable of winning leagues. It is their leader that is the problem. We saw this weak leadership in QPR later as he led them to relegation while they drank goals like kunu. We can expect old age to play a part in one-on-ones but their defense had the most shambolic disorganisation cos their leader has little defensive sense. He needed Vidic to lead him to be honest.

Expert17:
Someone played in EPL from 1996 - 2015.................you are using 2003-2006 to judge him

Even Maldini/Cannaravo/ Nesta will suffer with the defenders and goalkeepers in Man Utd during 2003-2006.

Xavi played from like 1998 to 2016, yet we only use 2008 to 2012 to judge him.

He played 1996-2015, yet achieved next to nothing except the 6 years when Vidic stabilised him.

Before that, we have already given him the tag of John Stones, hyped in smaller clubs but becoming a laughing stock when he reached the club where reliability matters.