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lordfalcao:
abeg stop spiting trash..

Jorginho here is the one accused of escorting. While kante here should be marking kroos

Stop confusing yourself, not me

You are very foolish. Jogginghoe job is not to run to point 1 but to run to point 2. Keep your stüpidity to yourself, capping nonsense about referee blocking.

From where you circled Kante and where Jorginho is, whose responsibility is it to arrive at point 2 to stop a striker steaming in for a cutback or cross that Vini could deliver?

raumdeuter:
Why will Henderson tell both of them to go for 1 man? Henderson pointed to Gomez to handle that man. VVD was to handle Morata and he was leisurely jogging trying to avoid and hoping Henderson will do it for him. When Henderson saw the reluctance of VVD was why he tried to close down Morata.

VVD sprinted toward the last man unless you are blind. Henderson begged them to take the sprinter who came from his position because he was tired to keep up with the speed of the sprinter. Hendersons direction was toward Morata. Your whole post above is suggesting Henderson wanted Gomez to take the sprinter and VVD take Morata while Henderson smoke cigar. You no know ball. No professional footballer will suggest his defence goes 2v2 while he smoke cigar and chill. That pointing Henderson did alone tells anyone who ever played football that Morata is now Hendersons man. That was VVDs interpretation and that's the interpretation of anyone who knows ball.

raumdeuter:
Henderson Pointed Gomez to take care of the runner, VVD was the closest to Morata and was backing away. Morata had no intention of doing anything with the ball and would have gladly falled down to claim freekick, it was VVD backing away that gave him confidence to move until it became dangerous

If you played football, you will know EXACTLY what Henderson instruction was which is that both of them should go on the last man.

No defence with a man surplus will leave one-on-one with the last man running through the middle and put two men on a player being forced down a cul-de-sac. That was Henderson instruction and they all understand it. Henderson direction of run is to Morata, which means automatically VVD direction should be toward the striker. Henderson got done by Morata stop and start feint which is what caused the rejig. Henderson was also tired and wanted to rest because the striker ran from his position and he begged them to follow the striker while he goes after Morata who is closer and not sprinting. When Morata stopped and changed gear on Henderson, he gassed out.

raumdeuter:
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Finesse007:
If you think he is running from Morata then football is not for you

Dayo na armchair analyst. Never played football in his life. That move by VVD was pure class. Man chased a different man without taking his eyes off Morata for one second. His neck be like exorcist neck. He knows where both players are at the same time. Henderson was the one who fumbled, causing VVD to leave the last man to go after Morata at the last minute.

raumdeuter:
Person wey dey run from Morata

As in Morata
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You dey cap nonsense. You can't see that Henderson has pointed that they should take the runner and he will worry about Morata.

That move VVD made in the direction of the striker was actually class and deals with the bigger threat of a one-on-one through the middle rather than Morata being pulled wide while shadowed by Henderson. The way VVD ran toward that last man, knowing where he is without looking at him, while turning his head fully toward Morata is a level of intelligence you will never understand. The fumble here is Henderson who did not follow through with his chase of Morata and was paused by Moratas drop of the shoulder, forcing VVD to change strategy having fully covered the last man.

lordfalcao:
funny. Kante was at the back of benzema, but Jorginho who was coming from the referee position should be the one pressing benzema

Bias

Kante went to deal with Kroos. Benz is in Jogginghoe line of sight while Kante is doing a forward press to the man on the ball (pic 1). You wouldn't know nothing about team marking if it hits you in the face. At this point Jog has one job, which is to run and fill in that space that Silva has vacated to help Chris, same with Rudiger (pic 2). This is normal expectation from a CB when they go to help a fullback in distress, that the DM or CB partner will immediately fill in.

By pic 3, Jog is in a much better position to do so than Kante and based on angle, does not have further to run than Benzema. In your mind, he has to run to Benzema because you no sabi ball, that's why you are talking nonsense about being behind referee. His job is to run to that box where Benzema is going, not to run in the direction of referee.

In pic 4, he actually does his job in a similar scenario, filling in the space that Benz is about to run into for that slide

raumdeuter:
Sissoko that is notorious for blasting ball without sense. One guy will say "He Sissoko the ball"

Remove Sissoko and put Salah, Mane, Son, Mbappe, any attacker who can hit target and lets see if anyone wont be blaming VVD for the foolishness to back away

And you think that is not in VVD calculation to block out the pass to the more deadly Son, and let Sissoko even reduce his chances further by pushing him to his left foot?

You just proved VVD right

lordfalcao:
bring the video let me show you who was doing the jogging between Jorginho and kante

The video is there. Kante ran to press Kroos in the build up, therefore his momentum was the other direction

popizaino:
Thiago Silva. I still wonder how ibime is calling jorginho there when Thiago Silva should have been the one trying to prevent Benzema from getting into free space.

Vinicius had been murding Chris all night. No way Thiago will leave him one on one in the box. He actually passed Benz and gestured to the midfield to pick his run. Jogginghoe could easily have done that. Also Rudiger fell asleep marking space. In a 3 man defence, you never leave one CB on a one on one. As Thiago moved across, Jogginghoe should be running with Benz while Rudiger should be shifting across

raumdeuter:
Where was Kante in that move?

Jorginho was the man on the scene

Kante went for the press on Kroos

And let's not forget Rudiger either

swiz123:
Ibime said it is Jorginho's fault that Modric pinpointed Silva's man. Honestly, by Silva's standards, he was shockingly poor yesterday.

Don't make false statement. I blamed Silva but Jogginghoe was also washed by Modric in the build up

swiz123:
Escorted Benzema to score two powerful headers? How can a DM be at fault in those instances? So which Madrid player was escorting him when he passed the ball to Havertz cos it was very much a similar scenario to Modric-Benz goal.

Benz ran 30 yards to.make that header with Jogginghoe jogging. That's called an escort.

If you want to know what should be done in such scenario, ask him why he chased Benz the same 30 yards to slide the ball later in the same first half.

If it's good enough for the second scenario, it's the expectation for the first scenario

ShadowCracker:
He escorted both goals before half-time, it should have been 3-1 at half-time if not that Benzema missed a sitter at Jorginhoe diverted the ball to his part.

He also gave them a ball under very slight pressure before the first goal which Vinicius hit the bar.

That's 4 in one half, but Swiz123 wants to complain about RLC. Can he do worse than giving opps 4 gifts in 45 minutes of football?

swiz123:
Kovacic securing someone . These two lack positional sense and they can easily negotiate an error. While Kovacic is a better ball carrier, RLC is below average. I saw him giving Madrid two promising situation out of his usual carelessness.


And don't he deceived, Madrid wasn't pressing high in the second half. Don't insult them by claiming someone as ridiculous as RLC drove them back.

We don't need someone who gets the ball stuck under his feet, turns so slowly and pass the ball back to his defence in 2nd leg

Kova may be spirit leads but we will take our chances. Your great positioner already escorted the first two goals today.

ShadowCracker:
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Have some shame .

So he escorted in build up.to second goal too, as well as first goal. I didn't pay attention to that one properly

Ellexy:
Recency bias with those lots, maybe they've forgotten how bad it was with Kepa between the sticks.

Nigerians are too forgiving and have poor memory, that's why they elect bad men

Exonerate1:
Yes he was bad today but when last did he start any game. James didn't help either

This is every match for Chris before Tuchel

See the way Chalobah handled Diaz in League Cup, Chris for die

He is not a robust somebody, he's just a weakling that like clean tackles, clean game and can't handle dribblers or one-on-one football

swiz123:
All Madrid need is one useless drive from RLC and we would be left to fight for a respectable scoreline.

Kova behind him for security.

What was the complaint in the first half - we are being overrun in midfield

No such complaint in the second half when they should have been counterattacking at will

Ellexy:
You guys demanding for Kepa, when he starts I no wan hear any complaints oo since Mendy is suddenly the devil now.

Comedians. I've seen enough from Kepa that Mendy can mess up the next ten games and still be in my good books

Exonerate1:
If we talk on Mendy dem go say we get agenda

Talk on Chris, na wetin we want hear

popizaino:
I don't agree with this, not even after watching RLC against Brentford. His positioning is a suspect and besides his passes are terrible. Unless Kovacic and kante will not cross the midfield like casemiro did for Madrid today,that when he will not be fully expose if he should play. And as for Jorginho, his only issue is his inability to make quick turns and spot his teammates who are in the best position to reck havoc. If he can take that much risk and ditch his normal slow pattern then we are good to go.

RLC seemed to drive them back today. They look like the kind of team who don't like being asked questions the other way, same as Barca did to them. Fück positioning, we are not going there to defend a lead. Let Kova be the nominal DM and Kante and RLC drive, with Kova driving sometimes too. The speed Jorginho turns, and release pass is not what we need.

popizaino:
RLC is still not discipline enough to play in the second leg abeg. Let manage our Jorginho like that .

RLC pushed them back well that 2nd half.

Jogginghoe is for parking bus. We are going there to take risks

Kante, Kova and RLC in midfield to attack the 3rd game with a 4-3-3 for me

Unlimited22:
If we don't score a second, we are definitely out.

Much stranger things have happened. We have penetrated them enough this second half not to write off this game. If Barca could put 4 past Madrid, we are not yet out

Unlimited22:
With the removal of away goals, we might have a very slim chance if we can get a second.

From our play in the second half, we are not down and out

RLC has actually been driving them back

Lukaku suppose score there

AnfieldFan:
Everyone's going in on Mendy, but Rudiger got there first just before Benzema, he could have literally done anything but try to stand off Benzema...

Rudiger suppose clear that ball. I don't know what he was doing there

Tuchel has given up with his subs

Roland17:
Yup, is always out of position, consequently leaving a ton of space behind.

To be fair, man has only played one game since January. Big body nigga like that will need time to get his fitness

donjazet:
It's fair to say Tuchel lost the tactical battle against ancelotti.

Valverde introduction and pushing Vinicius and Benzema right against the back 3 is antidote to 3-4-3.

Roland17:
Unpopular opinion: James is having a stinker of a game defensively

You are right. Offered no support to his RCB in the first half