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zendi:
EMPEROR OF DOLUSIA
The Emperor of Dolusia was in a meeting with his Head of Strategy, a man aptly called Ahitophel (Ahito to his friends), to review the recent elections that brought him to power, and to engineer his grip on power going forward.
Emperor of Dolusia : Ahito, those opposition voters, I think they are white nationalists.
Ahitophel : Your Majesty, I waited for you to figure that out yourself. That's what they are, every solitary one of them. And you must apply the last solution.
Emperor of Dolusia : (Visibly angry and screaming) Ahitophel, what do you mean apply the last solution? Are you advising me to kill all Dolusian opposition voters?
Ahitophel : Exactly, Your Majesty, but not homicidally. I'm advising you to kill them politically.
Emperor of Dolusia : (Looking relieved but still a bit confused) Ahito, cut out the riddles and give it to me straight. What do mean kill them politically, and how is that done?
Ahitophel : Your Majesty, if you got your enemy on the ground, and allow him to get up, he may even seem to have run away, but he's still liable to come back at you later, and do that even more strongly than before.
Emperor of Dolusia : So?
Ahitophel : Open-Border mass immigration is political/electoral genocide to the Right Party.
Erase the Border, let in the tsunami of migrants and drown the white nationalists in a sea of third world diversity. They will still cast the same votes in the future, but those will amount to like only 20% of total votes. Then you would have reduced the Right Party, by that action, to the Permanent Minority Party of Dolusia (PMPD). Your Majesty the last solution is so easy and simple you can do it sleeping (it is well known how the Emperor loves sleep).
Emperor of Dolusia : Libtard-Leftard-Son-of-Thunder...., Ahitophel, sometimes I envy you your wisdom. Why didn't I think of this myself?
Ahitophel : Your Majesty, why am I here? It's mine to do the strategies and Your Majesty's to do the Decrees, the Photo-Ops and the Politics. Going forth, let Your Majesty keep SAYING, "migrants don't come", but let your officials keep DOING, ''migrants welcome''.



Pure fiction and purely for entertainment.

When will you secure VISA to this Dolusia you keep disturbing us with?

Havertz10:
imagine

More money means premier league teams can take good players from other leagues because they can pay more

It means better players

You are not very bright honestly

Player price inflation outstrips money increase. £23m that bought Ronaldinho in 2003 can't buy you Tyrone Mings today.

It's not a difficult concept to understand unless you are dumb as a dodo, and I gave several examples of better players who sold for ten times less back then. Other leagues also have increased money and more buyers of their players and won't accept peanuts like before. If you like earn N1m monthly today, you cannot afford to buy a house in VI like someone earning the equivalent in the 1990s or 1980s

Go and google again, mumu

Tdotbluejays1:
Melania with her PhD in Totology can't hold a candle to Dr. J Biden.

GQPs in the mud

Havertz10:
Some old men wouldn't evolve

Celebrating mediocrity of the past

Dating back to the 1950s

2000s was one the least competitive era of premier league football

Top 4 strandings remained relatively unchanged and the gap between the top teams and the rest was vast

We are looking at real data, that one keeps talking about what he watched

Shut up about what you didn't watch you over opinionated Wikipedia eediot.

So going by what you just posted, 1960s should be the best era in English football?

You keep embarrassing yourself by showing your lack of depth, and foolishness of youth.

Go and google something again to fit your loud mouth just cos you won't shut up about what you don't know.

swiz123:
The quality of EPL teams in general, not the big 4. But now, other smaller things have been equiped to compete slightly fairly to the bigger teams hence the improved quality of which I talk about.

What am I even saying... It should be glaringly obvious to you that the competition and quality of EPL has improved courtesy of TV right funds.

The more money does not necessarily translate into better players in comparison, all it means is players charge more for salary and other leagues charge more for transfer fees. Europa League performance is still a decent arbiter for the strength of the midtable.

Top players still go to top clubs and mid-level players still go to mid-level clubs. All those Tyrone Ming's, Matt Target and Matty Cash that Aston Villa paid £16-£30m from Championship are no different calibre to Joleon Lescott and Phil Jagielka that Everton paid £4m for in the 2000s. What of Sylvain Distin and Yobo for £4m? Distin and Lescott as LCB are better than Mings who cost £25m.

Aston Villa are now paying £35m apiece for the Championship best players in Ollie Watkins and Buendia while Spurs picked up Championship best players in Carrick and Defoe for £3m and £7m respectively. The best attacking midfielder in the Championship Tim Cahill will move to Everton for £3m then, today Buendia is costing £33m.

The £20m Villa paid for Traore who was not a sure starter in Lyon is no different than West Ham paying £3m for Freddie Kanoute or Fulham buying Louis Saha.

Spurs back then can pick up a UCL runner up and Bundesliga top striker like Berbatov for £11m, today it will cost £50m, or a Luka Modric for £16m that will cost £40m today. Where they pay £5m for Championships most promising left-back in Gareth Bale then, they are now paying £20m for Sessegnon who is not as good.

Croatia league top scorer and bonafide hitman like Viduka can come to Leeds for £4m, likewise a solid French DM like Olivier Dacourt for £7m who is better than most French DMs moving for £40m today.

Players like Ashley Young and James Milner who Villa would pick for £7m will be charged at £30m today.

Even back then, top legends like Fernando Hierro, Djorkaeff, Okocha and Ivan Campo come to Bolton to play their last three years, nowadays EPL can't afford their salary so they go to China, Qatar, USA.

In other words, the TV money has made no difference to the quality of the midtable. Top players still go to top clubs and midtable pay over the odds for what's left.

There is a difference between experiencing these things and revising them on Wikipedia.

I know for sure you can't be hitting 99 points regularly in EPL back then, much less both Liverpool and City taking 97 and 98 points in the same season. That just means the rest of the league is weaker, or too many teams are trying to be a poor mans Barcelona. Back then, teams like Bolton, Villa, Everton and co will scalp points off those teams with dogged performances, these days even relegation candidates are trying to play like Barcelona and taking 5-0 hammerings.

raumdeuter:
The Left are now comparing America and Israel to Taliban and Hamas

I wonder where their loyalty lies when democratic countries are now being compared to terror organizations

Have you changed your affiliation to Independent yet? Too much FOX News will have you speaking in such generalisations. There is no space in the GOP for moderates and normal people anymore, only lunatics.

Tdotbluejays1:
At least post the full story. Omar doesn't represent all the left just as Marjorie Taylor Greene don't represent all the right.

GQPs actually represent the whole right now. Normal Republicans like Romney, Cheney and co are being censured and hounded left, right and centre.

Sniper4real:
We can't open nairaland with VPN

Underrated comment

Havertz10:
do you have evidence to back this claim

I specifically said I wouldn't mind if we don't win, I didn't say that I don't want us to win, big difference between what I said and what you are pushing

I don't care about the insults, nothing you have said or will ever say can change or alter my life in anyway, I just don't like it especially when i'm trying to explain something, you are just pushing me to ignore the subject and start exchanging insults with you

Believe what I say or don't, doesn't really matter, it's a statement of fact, it's not my opinion.

How can you have an opinion on an era you didn't witness?

You are too opinionated. Shut your mouth and speak only on what you witnessed and don't disrespect our legends of the 2000s.

You don't see me typing crap about the early 90s or 80s that I didn't witness. No Wikipedia can teach me how good or bad Gullit or Van Bastien were in their prime and would be irritating to those who witnessed them.

Learn to speak only on what you know and you will go far in life. Over yarn on what you don't know and people will mark you down as an overopinionated eediot.

Havertz10:
grown ass man like you can't make a point without adding insults

Only sentimental people that are arguing based on how they feel not what is true behave like that, change your diapers and go to bed abeg, i'm done with you

I will insult you anyhow I want for being an eediot. If you don't want insults, don't come here and type rubbish. From a fool who wanted Chelsea to lose UCL final so Mount will not win UCL, you deserve any insult that comes your way. It's better to shüt up if you did not witness an era than type rubbish. Someone who boasted of fücking his uncles wife is asking for respect in conversations.

Havertz10:
Under Lampard 2019 was our worst season in my opinion and we scored 3 goals less than the 72 that won us the title 2005, what does that say about the players in that golden era

In 2005, we only conceded 13 goals and finished on 95 points. Fool like you only looks at goals scored. You are one of the gãy new breed of football fans who only see attack. That's why people like you are comfortable with likes of Jorginho manning your DM, whereas some of us are used to Makelele, Essien, Ballack who will not allow you to even get one chance in a match. In 2005, if Chelsea score one goal, you can sleep on bicycle knowing the game is won.

Havertz10:
Added the goals to show the productive output of the team that according to were dominant, we can use the gap between 4th and 5th to measure the competitiveness of the league that season

it's a fair metric

2005
2 points

2006
8 points

2007
11 points

2008
9 points

Just because Chelsea became useless in this era to be finishing on 60 something points regularly allowing it to seem like there is competition for 4th place, don't get yourself confused. Teams like Leicester are only close because Chelsea became useless. They are no different from Spurs who make 60 something points in the 2000s and couldn't crack top four despite boasting the likes of Modric, Bale and Van Der Vaart. That's to show you EPL was no walkover then. EPL is worse now with top team like Man City making 97,98,99 points and still useless in Europe. If EPL was that good, they would not be struggling in Europe against Monaco, Lyon and co despite dominating EPL. EPL is a bunch of ninny teams now.

If the teams below top 4 in EPL are good now, why are Leicester, Everton, Spurs copping disgrace after disgrace in Europa League against their equivalent rivals in other European Leagues?

Mid to late 2000s were the most dominant era of English teams in Europe and my Chelsea was in the top two teams in England, end of story. This era Chelsea will be struggling with teams they are not supposed to be mentioned with on a normal day.

swiz123:
True talk. The quality of EPL then was poor compared to now. But I can't deny that Chelsea had better players then.

2005 to 2009, not one UCL final was played without an EPL team present.

2005 - Liverpool
2006 - Arsenal
2007 - Liverpool
2008 - Chelsea and Man Utd
2009 - Man UTD

If EPL was poor, the rest of European leagues must have been utter garbage.

Stop supporting that clown showing the foolishness of his youth.

airmark:
Una get time to dey reply that ignoramus.

The guy is just showing his foolishness and JJC. Na Wikipedia analyst. How can someone talk with so much confidence of what he never witnessed. The mumus only recollection of that team is 2012. What a mugu.

Havertz10:
dominating the league when other teams were inferior and top 4 was a breeze for top teams

2005 72 goals

Top 4
Chelsea
United
Liverpool
Arsenal

2006 64 goals

Top 4
United
Chelsea
Liverpool
Arsenal

2007 65goals

Top 4
United
Chelsea
Arsenal
Liverpool


2008 68 goals

United
Liverpool
Chelsea
arsenal



Period of so called dominance coincided with the most stagnant top 4 qualification ever, the same teams were comfortably qualifying for champions league every season, they met inferior teams easily beat them


got eliminated whenever they met top teams

Don't worry about the goals, worry about the points on the table. Any of those seasons points tally is infinitely better than the 60-70 points we've been posting recently. That team always finish around the 85 point mark

Havertz10:
3 goals is a good portion of 18G/A

3 GA vs Barnsley in Carabao Cup
2 GA vs Morecambe in FA Cup

5 useless GA which is almost a third of his total

Congratulations.


Even the useful GA includes 2 against Krasnodar and Sevilla in 4-0 dead rubber goals. Let's not mention padding against Crystal Palace, Fulham and co.

BlueAngel444:
Lol, I enjoyed that hattrick that day o

How do you see Chelsea buying Hakimi £60m?

I feel as a right side player Hakimi, is quite good and as creative as Sancho, whom united are chasing for £70m-£80m, plus he has done it in two different teams, different leagues in merely a season in them. Pains me Madrid lost him.

Hakimi is not my priority at that price. I heard Traore is available for like £40m. Signing Traore can keep the 3-4-3 or play wings in a 4-3-3 for more flexibility while Hakimi reduces the options.

When improving a team, you start with the weakest area first. That's Jorginho and a striker as far as I am concerned before putting £60m in a wingback. Between James, Azpi and Livramento, I am not too concerned about that position.

The last time we went shopping in order to keep a 3-4-3 formation going, we had our most disastrous transfer window ever. That was the year we signed Zappacosta and Emerson as wimgbacks to keep the 3-4-3 going. Both were useless in a conventional back 4 when Sarri tried to switch the formation the following year. We also added Morata, Donkeyoko and Drinkbleach that year.

Havertz10:
they finish 5th park the bus all the way to the final to steal qualification

Glory days

That's when you started watching Chelsea you doofus, so of course that is your only impression of our 2000s team.

Like I already told you, 2012 team is not the same as 2000s team. All 2012 team had is a few old players from 2000s producing a last miracle before they retire.

2000s team officially ended in 2010 with the exits of Ballack, Makelele and Essien injury issues.

James body type is more suited to a central position. He is too big to make recovery runs after running down the wing. He does not have speed endurance to get back cos his body is too big for that. He has very good technique in shielding and passing the ball and that is evidenced by his secondary position as a DM. RCB will suit him fine, however I don't think that's our first priority. My own is when Jorginho is being replaced and when are we buying a striker

Havertz10:
beat Atletico Madrid, beat Real Madrid, beat City

Conceded only 2 goals, went on to win in 90mins not via penalties

Which era of Chelsea players could rival that accomplishment?

The era that does not wait for final game of season to seal top4 spot

BlueAngel444:
More than half of Havertz game was played as an attacking midfielder. Tuchel uses a 3-4-3 meaning 2 AMs and a Forward, Havertz missed 6games due to injury and 5 he didn't even come on, and there were games he had to be thrown out from.

Havertz played mostly has an AM, he also plays Forward as well, Havertz is a midfielder isn't he, so which 'off' position was he played in and for how long?

Mount is a midfielder, not an attacker and the reason was stated in my previous post, go, read it again and study it well.

Why answer that guy. Don't forget that Havertz scored hattrick against Barnsley in Carabao cup. That's a good portion of his return this season

basilico:
What are we debating about? If there is a drug that works well on covid-19 , tell me
.The best drug for covid-19.
Better than this

“We found
that when the cumulative
doses of two drugs, HCQ and
AZM, were above a certain
level, patients had a survival
rate 2.9 times the other
patients,”

Well I have had chloroquine at home since February 2020 before Trump opened his fat gob to tout the drug, which is a very irresponsible thing for a President to do for a drug that hasn't gone through clinical trial. Me buying chloroquine was based on me reading that Chloroquine was used experimentally on SARS-COV-1 and the Chinese tried to use it in the early days of SARS-COV-2, long before Trump opened his big mouth.

Thankfully I have had both shots of vaccine, and also updated myself on treatments, unlike you cultist still arguing that HCL is the best treatment cos your philandering fat orange turd God said so.

Can you kindly show us on Trump's treatment list below where he used HCL when he had Covid-19? Even Trump treated himself with regeneron and remdesevir and here you are over a year later still arguing that HCL is the best treatment. You are a hopeless and foolish cultist.

Yes

At the very least, Rohr has ensured consistency of performance and consistency of selection, not like those days when any random player who paid bribe will turn up at camp, and the team changes from one game to the next. Sometimes we don't even qualify for AFCON or WC back then

Now is the time for BTC. Alts are not reacting at the same pace. Market done reset

Havertz10:
asides porto, how many small teams made it to the final or semi final back then?


2000 era Chelsea were mediocre, they mostly won by single goals and depended on the defense to see out games, that isn't exactly dominance


Everytime they met quality opposition, they parked the bus and played like a small team

How did Chelsea just win UCL?

Havertz10:
most teams back then were mediocre, you could easily breeze through the round of 16 and quarter finals

Now there are many top teams and most teams provide more competition


Look at the teams that removed Chelsea prior to 2012

Look at the teams that removed Chelsea post 2012

Top teams but the difference is you will meet them in R16 compared to before that they were few or only appeared in semi finals or finals, the competition has gotten more competitive

You know Sabi anything. That era team used to dump out Bayern and Barca on the way to the semi . This era get disgraced when they meet any big team, and 3 times they could not even make UCL. That weak Barca team that disgraced us in 2018 UCL would have collected a big stonking from 2000 era Chelsea, likewise PSG of 2014/15 era

Havertz10:
first leg, what happened?




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5TcPaZC_Rs

You only started watching Chelsea in 2012. JJC.

Havertz10:
they always got smoked when they met top oppositions

They could only win by playing negative football

When did they get smoked? JJC

That team never played Europa League or failed to qualify for Europe like this era has done three times

popizaino:
You are right. I didnt even remember kante but Azpilicueta came to my mind together with Thiago Silva . This new Rudiger will actually sit on the bench sha. Only those who started watching us today will have something different to say .

Kante will actually be swapping with Essien

Havertz10:
Bolded dey make me laugh, after we won it 2010, United were victorious twice without Ronaldo. I no even understand your bearings self, Chelsea didn't win the title because of 1 man and you call that team legendary

Shows you know nothing about Chelsea. That era ended in 2010 with the exit of Ballack, Makelele and Essien injury problems

That was when the ninnies started taking over to what we have today. 2012 UCL was last dying embers of the last ones left.

Havertz10:
Premier league wasn't as competitive back then as it is today

Top 4 was guaranteed for most clubs, you could name the top 4 every season, the emergence of city and spurs coupled with the new rules for sharing broadcast revenue changed everything, smaller teams are getting better players and coaches


What makes the premier league special is the match day uncertainty and they will continue sharing broadcast revenue evenly to maintain that uncertainty, you know that it's possible for any team to beat any team, makes the viewing experience enjoyable

it's arguable that we wouldn't dominate with those players if they were playing for us today


You call last season a fluke because you want to undermine havertz, if I said something like this that wild bat will say that it's covid that brought people here

The way you look at issues is disappointing, I expected better from you honestly, you have allowed sentiments to cloud your judgment.

Absolute rubbish. The only reason that team did not win more league titles was one reason only and that's Ronaldo at Man Utd. Soon as Ronaldo left in 2009, they won the next season.

If TV money explains their consistency in EPL, what explains their consistency in Europe?

The only players in this era that will near that team are Kante and the wingers (wings was their only weakness after the sale of Robben and Duff). Also Azpi or James would replace Ferreira easily.

It's obvious you are a born yesterday Chelsea fan from the rubbish above.

You know nothing about the feeling of going into a match 100% confident that Chelsea would win.

This current Chelsea era had not made UCL semi for 7 years before this season.

And what makes you think this has anything to do with Havertz? You are nuts. I'm not fake fan like you that will pray for Chelsea to lose UCL because you don't want Mount to win. I've been complaining about this iteration of Chelsea since 2013 season.

BlueMann:
I think this will start after the next edition.

We'll likely be without Ziyech and Mendy.

Na wa oh. We need to sign another backup keeper then