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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 3:30pm On Nov 23, 2020
nihilistjnr:
Chelsea vs Burnley 2017. Morata went to tap in a christensen goal from an offside position. We lost 3-2

Liverpool vs Chelsea 2017. Morata missed one empty post, and missed a 1-on-1. We draw 1-1

West Ham vs Chelsea 2017 . Morata misses a 1-on-1. We lose 1-0

Arsenal Chelsea 2018 - Morata was an absolute bastard in this game missing 3! clear 1-1s with the keeper and generally falling upandan. We draw 2-2

Chelsea Huddersfield 2018. These mofos got relegated and were losing to everybody. Morata dribbled the keeper and missed an open net. We drew 1-1



Count how many points lost there just from this mofo. If Morata scores in each of those games, we gain 11 points to finish with 81 points, same as Manyoo that season.

I will not buy any revisionism from Ibime claiming that Fabregas could not help Morata that season.

Not for me chief.
You missed the point completely.

Barca fan popizaino tried to blame Lampard for Torres flopping so I asked him why he didn't blame Fabregas for Morata flopping.

The point is a dud striker is a dud striker, even John Stockton can't assist them.

Let's not forget that Costa literally went on strike in January 2017 trying to push through a move to China and was useless till season end, yet the midfield stability of the Matic-Kante combo gave the team the platform to perform even with a non-existent striker for the second half of the season, something Fabregas couldn't do the next season. The difference in midfield stability between Matic-Kante and Fabregas-Kante was like night and day.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:33pm On Nov 23, 2020
Neobulletzz:
I think that is where the problem is, you should know player’s prime differs and Fabregas’s own was earlier than that
His prime must then be at Arsenal which doesn't concern me as a Chelsea fan.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:20pm On Nov 23, 2020
sebod:
England had good defence, good AMs and Wayne Rooney and could not succeed while having the great Lampard because of no good balance. But Pep team succeeded because of Xavi and Messi. How could two players provide the needed good balance for Pep while many players together with the exceptional Lampard could not provide same for their country?
So you don't see Eto, Henry, Villa, Messi, Alves etc on the pitch?

While we may slander Barca players like Busquets, Iniesta and co, it is mostly trolling in comparison to other great players. Never compare them to Peter Crouch, Darren Bent, Emile Heskey, Darius Vassell, Danny Mills, Kieron Dyer type players. Not even Pep could win with these lot even if he has good defence, good AMs and Wayne Rooney.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:15pm On Nov 23, 2020
OVA200:
I always find it hard to oppose ibime but his slander of fabregas is very wrong.
He always target his weakness which is valid but he should also laud his strength which he always doesn't do that.
I don't need to slander Fabregas when his managers already slander him to the bench. Midfield work is not one way. You cannot have irredeemable weaknesses that cost your team points regularly otherwise no need discussing your strengths. A weakness to me in midfield is where you score 5/10 in something. Where you score 1/10, the team is only as good as that weakness because opposing teams will target that 1/10 weakness which is why players like Fabregas always find themselves on the bench cos that weakness is unacceptable to the manager unless he wants to be losing games. It's the same reason Monaco is benching him now.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:40pm On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
Pls tell me what is mikel supposed to play for again after winning it all at Chelsea and reaching his twilight years in football ?

Factor in African football age.....

Fabregas leaving for monaco club doesn't prove shit. ......maybe Raul leaving for schalke meant he wasn't Madrid standard after all.
So you didn't factor in his African age when campaigning for Chelsea to keep him? Even useless teams like Burnley won't look at him, but you want him to keep stealing a living at Chelsea and blocking space for better midfielders.

Raul went to Schalke at 33 and was still scoring goals. Fabregas went to Monaco at 31 when he should be in his prime and was immediately useless, having already been useless since 29. Lampard was nearly 34 when he won UCL and nearly 32 in 2010 when he returned a 27 goal and 20 assist season. Never you compare a success to a failure.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:18pm On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
How well did the same matic help man United to league wins ?
Matic helped Manure to second place that season and nearly made PFA team of the year, just missing out to Fernandinho while Fabregas led Chelsea to disgrace having failed to help Morata (using your useless argument that Lampard is responsible for Torres flopping)

Now you are coming down to Fabregas real level - comparison with Matic who he could not effectively replace. Forget Lampard. Eventually, you will come all the way down to one Guinean or Senegalese midfielder who is currently benching him at Monaco.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:08pm On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
You are one of the few monikers I respect on this thread so don't disappoint me


Were was this energy when used donkey years to campaign against mikel and fabregas ?
When you are wrong, just admit you were wrong instead of doing stronghead. So after the campaign, did Mikel go on to play for Madrid, Barca, Inter, Juventus, even Lazio or Fiorentina? No, he got sent to bench, then got dashed for free to Chinese team who he relegated and then bounced around lower level of Championship and Turkish leagues.

Fabregas also got sent to bench, then to farmers league where he led them to relegation struggle, then fans chased him and now is on the bench at Monaco.

So once again, history shows they were not Chelsea standard, my campaign was correct and well-intentioned for the good of my club, and you are just making noise having lost your arguments woefully as evidenced by their careers since my campaign.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:46am On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
The same mikel that covered for all the errors of your Lord lamprad on our way to Munich?

Abeg pls tell us who benched mikel?

Lampard was a CM like fabregas and whatever is not required of lampard is certainly not required from fabregas so keep that escort agenda to those who can't decide for themselves .
Go and argue with Chinese relegation club fans, Middlesbrough and Turkish league where Mikel rightfully found his level. Mikel has been a bench fodder since December 2012.

You will never see me not praise Mikel for 2012 UCL. He was instrumental but only because Chelsea parked bus and there was no chasing for the snail to do. That is different from asking him to anchor an attacking team where he became a full time escort.

And let's not forget how Lampard robbed Xavi and set up that lovely pass for Ramires chip. Let's not forget the lovely pass Lampard dropped for Ramires on the left wing to set up Drogbas goal in the first leg. You cannot write the history of UCL 2012 without Lampard or Mikel
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:37am On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
You claimed conte benched fabregas but still except the benched fabregas to assist morata grin
Lies once again. Conte benched Fabregas for our title winning season in 2016/17 while you idealist were making plenty noise that Fabregas must start. Morata was signed in 2017 and Matic was sold to Manure against Conte's advice. Fabregas came back in the first team when it was obvious Bakayoko can't cut it and started 25 games that season yet could not help Morata.

Lampard at 32 scored 27 goals and made 20 assists. Fabregas at 32 was being chased by Monaco fans to the point he is a regular benchwarmer at Monaco now. What is there to discuss. Go and celebrate your failures playing on the bench in farmers leagues, let us celebrate our successful players.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m):
Greatihex:
The thing is that when Ibime wants to criticise the weakness of a player that is not his favourite type of player, he crosses normal criticism and makes it look like the player is a complete dross like the bakayokos of this world. And the more you keep opposing him on that, he keeps bringing everything, even making some bogus claims just to prove that he is right with what he is saying. And when someone who does not know the player in question reads all of the slander, the person will imagine the player to be like the bakayokos of this world.

But if you want to know if there is anything good that can come out of that player, wait when he wants to criticise another player.

For example, if you want to know how good Fabregas is from Ibime, wait for when he starts his hazard campaign, that is when you will know how Fabregas dragged hazard's lazy, unproductive shakushaku ass to two Premier league successes.
Just wait for it one day. grin grin
How will Fabregas be responsible for the 2nd title as a benchwarmer? Don't get me wrong, he played a massive role in Mourinhos title from August to January until Spurs exposed him. After that he became a liability.

The problem here is people don't take responsibility or acknowledge when they have lost an argument. The same people who shouted that Fabregas must replace Matic during Conte's title winning season. Well, the next season Matic left and Fabregas led Chelsea to disgrace, but they still want to push him as some sort of legend. Fabregas has been a bench fodder since 29, and guess what Fabregas is a regular benchwarmer for Monaco now. Yet the same people who refuse to acknowledge I was right about Fabregas want to pick holes in what a decade long Chelsea legend like Lampard did or did not do at the age of 36 in 2014.

Same thing with Mikel. They refused to concede that Mikel found his level, and I was right once again. Mikel was on the bench since 25 years old, then dashed out to China at 29 where he relegated his team in Chinese league, then found his level in Championship and mid-table Turkish league where he was sacked. Instead of admitting they lost Mikel argument, they will be doing plenty shalaye.

We can tick off all the midfielders I argued voraciously against the same way. Ramires and Oscar became nonentities in China and chased from Brazil team the same way. If you go back to arguments I had about those two here, they said at the time Ibime is being too negative about these players.

Bakayoko proved an instant flop as I argued. Mata found his way to anonymity as a perennial bench fodder at Manure etc etc.

Take it to the bank that I was correct on all these arguments hands down, but instead of acknowledging, some people want to drag what a 34 or 36 year old Lampard did when the players they championed vociferously became useless in their twenties and found their level in backwater leagues or on the bench. I will always have problem with midfielders who destabilise Chelsea midfield to the point you will think it's personal, because I am passionate about midfield. Without a stable midfield, you have nothing.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 1:51am On Nov 23, 2020
BraniacX:
you can attempt to disguise your bias all you want by being verbose, operative word here is "attempt" undecided but the moment you claim that hearsay should carry legal validity your attempt fails and you prove either one or both of two things, you're either ignorant of the requirements of proving an argument "legally" and/or you have revealed your bias for a particular side hence you water down the legal requirements needed to prove their argument to not the barest minimum but actually no minimum hence your willingness to take hearsay on personal recognizance as being superior to actual evidence so spare us your prosletysing you are an umudike republican! Own it and swell their ranks and stop pretending to be neutral undecided sad
Brilliant breakdown.

He wants to claim neutral on hearsay within hearsay that judges are dismissing with prejudice. Yeye dey smell.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 1:29am On Nov 23, 2020
Wey that mumu basilico who was giving us blow by blow rundown of Sidney Powell press conference and hyping that she is coming with some weighty evidence. Nairaland lawyers.

She was even too crazy for Trump

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 1:24am On Nov 23, 2020
sanpipita:
Just look at, wonder what basilico and co will now hold on to, they said Sidney Powell had all evidence, what will happen to all her affidavits.

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1330642696306786304?p=v[/quote]LWKMD. Can't wait for Sucker Carlson to speak on this. I sure say he go wash her tomorrow.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 1:23am On Nov 23, 2020
basilico:
The kraken was let loose.
Need to switch to alternative media
Wake up!

Who will unleash the kraken now that batshït crazy woman Sidney Powell has been sacked?

I hope Ono has shared his classified info with Trump legal team
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:12am On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
Every player got weaknesses till ibime started lauding that of other midfielders which were not obvious and concealing that of his favourite lampard which a blind man could see .
There is nothing not obvious about an escort midfielder like Fabregas or Mikel except to a clueless myopic pundit like you who only watches football for the long passes. That's why managers keep sending them to the bench year after year because they see obvious things you are too myopic to see.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m):
popizaino:
Every player got weaknesses till ibime started lauding that of other midfielders which were not obvious and concealing that of his favourite lampard which a blind man could see .
Please tell us why your God Fabregas could not save Morata career since you blamed a 34 year old pivot midfielder Lampard for Torres flopping.

When people like myself had seen Torres was washed since 2009-10 and warned on these very pages not to sign Torres, you probably championed his signing and blamed Lampard for his flopping never mind that Mata who made 25 assists and played behind the striker could not help Torres.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:03am On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
Even an unborn child knows the DM controls the midfield but that doesn't mean the AM should be useless in every aspect except firing shot at a stationary keeper from 6 yard box.
Tell other AMs to start making good runs so they can start scoring box goals. Also Lampard has the most goals from outside the box in Premier League (41). This is why we call you a plastic fan, cos you make false propaganda arguments we would expect from a Barca fan which is your true love. You are a disgrace to the name Chelsea.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:37am On Nov 23, 2020
popizaino:
Look at how you are contradicting yourself because you want to defend the lampard inability to dictate and control the midfield play.


Yes AM job is to penetrate with through ball only that we found lampard wanting on this aspect that's why most strikers who came to Chelsea to flop because of lack of through ball from this our fantastic flawless Am.Nobody every striker want fight tug of war with defenders like drogba before scoring.


If lampard was truly doing his work it would have reflected in the output of our strikers.

Even an unborn child knows the DM controls the midfield but that doesn't mean the AM should be useless in every aspect except firing shot at a stationary keeper from 6 yard box.
Argue with the assist and goal stats and this video. Lampard is simply one of the best in that job, but also contributes to the midfield effectively and is never a luxury player.

Of course Lampard must be the reason to you why that Spanish woman wrapper Torres was useless. Lampard is living rent free in your head. What did Torres achieve after leaving Chelsea? Even Mata that made 25 assists and playing behind the striker could not help that useless Torres. It is always fools like you that blame Lampard (who was 34 and playing in DM) for Torres flopping. Those foolish arguments are not new on this thread. Even your God Fabregas could not help a useless Morata, I wonder why you didn't blame Fabregas for Morata flopping.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdarzdS1uF0


You must be stüpid if you think a Modric is being chased to gain midfield control from a Lampard. Thomas Muller job in Bayern is never to control midfield but to punch holes in opposition. Leave that to the Thiagos. If Bayern is to sign a Modric type of player today, it would be to replace a Thiago not to replace a Muller cos he simply can't.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m):
popizaino:
I will simply refer you to matches and instances in the game that shows lampard useless and inability to dictate the the game whic cause us points back then.

We can't praise him for those position since we are only talking about weakness and not strength.
You are a big fool if you think midfield control is established by your AMs. Midfield control lies in the hands of the deep lying midfielders who receive the ball from the defence and touch the ball the most times. That's why a DM can make 100 passes a game while an AM will make 40 or 50. The AM job is to penetrate with runs and through balls.

Midfield control is also according to the instructions of the manager, and you must be a fool if you think Ballack and Essien cannot control the midfield which they showed many times, but they also play according to the instruction of the manager to play on the counterattack and let opposition hold the ball knowing they can't penetrate.

You are so clueless, you think this is the job of the AM. You still think we are in 1994 where they tell you Okocha is there to control the midfield and Oliseh is only there to tackle.

It is your own misunderstanding thinking Lampard is not controlling midfield when he has his own job to do to penetrate opposition, and it is also your own clueless misunderstanding thinking Chelsea was chasing Modric to replace Lampard when Modric had been playing in deep midfield behind Van Der Vaart as a midfield controller, not as an AM, and had been dropping poverty stats as an AM before finding his rightful position deep in midfield. This just shows your hatred for Lampard is simply down to your poor understanding of midfield. You don't even know the difference between midfield controller and AM and the functions that both of them have in midfield. Modric would have been signed to compete with and eventually replace Ballack in deeper midfield whose contract was expiring in 2010, never with Lampard cos his poverty attacking numbers would never replace Lampards position.

Like I said, you are clueless about midfield work, so just shut up.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:19pm On Nov 22, 2020
popizaino:
Was he also 34yrs in 2009 when we were 7th on the league log without drogba to bail him out when it mattered most ?
2008-2009? Isn't that the season Drogba scored 5 goals as Raumdeuter is always eager to point out.

Please tell us how Drogba bailed Lampard out from 7th place with 5 league goals that season.

You should donate your brain to research.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:17pm On Nov 22, 2020
OVA200:
pardon to mediate but you need to come up with a better point than these now.

Every great player lose an important match(es) in the span of their career so those super cup aligation is watery.

And if we are to criticize him for our 7th place on the log then let's praise him for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place too.

The day you dare him to yab fabregas, I want him to do it so as to see your clapback but I'm kind of disappointed with these your point.
Popizaino is an eediot. Lampard was 34 years old in 2012 and still having to regularly score goals to bail out his favourite escort Mikel who was escorting people to our goal on a regular basis and knocked us out of UCL with his mistakes and escorting.

The word escort was popularised in Nairaland lexicon in 2012/13 season by myself with Mikel as the owner of that word. A 34 year old Lampard got injured and the young boys could not do anything but disgrace Chelsea. Lampard had to come back from injury in January and score goal upon goal just to qualify Chelsea for the next UCL, including the brace at Aston Villa which secured our qualification.

Even Benitez came in and had to immediately drop the escort Mikel for Oriol Romeu. He was unlucky that Romeo got knee injury after two games, and Benitez was forced at that point to deploy Luiz in the DM position rather than consider returning that snail escort Mikel to the team.

Mikel continued to ride bench from that point till 2016, hanging around like a bad smell and refusing to make way for more competent DMs, apart from a 6 month spell under Hiddink.

When we talk of escort on Nairaland, Mikel is the forerunner. As soon as Chelsea stopped parking bus in 2012/13 and were transitioning to a more attacking style, Mikel Slowbi became an utter liability and managers would rather play Luiz or even Zouma in midfield than bring that snail to come and kill the team with his escort work.

Even fans of a 2nd rate National team like Super Eagles could not accommodate him anymore, yet the fool popizaino continued to think he is what Chelsea needs. Popizaino has no tactical knowledge about midfield work and will be screaming for bench-warming snails like Mikel and Fabregas to start, despite manager after manager benching them.

If popizainos arguments on this thread had been listened to by Chelsea board, our midfield 3 today would be the escorting trio of Mikel, Fabregas and Mata because he is myopic to the other parts of midfield work and is only interested in good passes. That's why I call him an idealist and fantasist. If you want a good midfield, just ignore anything that fool says, cos he is clueless when it comes to midfield work.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:54pm On Nov 22, 2020
popizaino:
Lamfraud was there when we drew juventus at home .
Shut up

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 9:40pm On Nov 22, 2020
Amujale:
Rudy Giuliani broke it down meticulously.

Go and search for the video on the internet. He gave a press conference.
You are a fōol trying to disguise in a reasonable persons clothing. You call that nonsense meticulous?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 9:39pm On Nov 22, 2020
Obrigardo:
Dershowitz dunks on trump. Many of his criminal ilks are now dunking on him like bees on honey
Can you elaborate cos Dershowitz was still talking rubbish as of yesterday
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 9:28pm On Nov 22, 2020
basilico:
SCOTUS.
lol. E fly you.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 9:14pm On Nov 22, 2020
basilico:
The kraken was let loose.
Need to switch to alternative media
In which court?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:00pm On Nov 22, 2020
popizaino:
The irony of this top scoring drogba was that he never won big without drogba .


Infact both 08/09 and 12/13 shows us how useless lampard's goal was to the team without drogba .


7th on the league table when scolari favoured Anelka over drogba in the league on 08/ 09 season after losing the first home game in 84 matches against liverpool and drawing most big home matches without drogba. They needed the service of drogba to bail them out against fc cluj to cement their qualification from group stage despite the stat padding of lampard's goals.


Without drogba in 12/13 seasons lampard and his goals ensured they took our team backward by not qualifying from group stage a record that never happened with drogba at the club.

And incase you're looking for what drogba achieved without drogba epl title 2014/2015 should provide you with better answer.
During Scolari reign, Lampard was one of the only one scoring and finished the season with his obligatory 20 goals.

Unfortunately for your lies, Lampard was injured early in the first half in the UCL 2012/13 against Shakhtar Donetsk who your boy Mikel escorted toward a 2-1 victory and Lampard remained injured throughout the rest of UCL as your boy Mikel escorted Juventus to 3-0 victory. Let's also not forget the first game how Oscar put Chelsea 2-0 up until your boy Mikel gifted them the equaliser without which Chelsea would have qualified. So you see your lies won't travel far because your other favourite escort Mikel was the one who knocked us out of UCL while Lampard was injured.

You think you can come and lie here?

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:51pm On Nov 22, 2020
thorrvik55:
Failure really has no friend lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:43pm On Nov 22, 2020
Ibime:
This is not Arsenal where Arteta just defend all game and just launch ball for Aubameyang to do R2.
When R2 to Aubameyang stops working
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:40pm On Nov 22, 2020
BikeMan:
Do I support Arsenal football club?
No be you dey shout after season start say Lampard out and comparing with Arteta?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 7:37pm On Nov 22, 2020
They've even downgraded him from Simeone to Tony Pulis.

Where are Bikeman and TalabiAudu?

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