₦airaland Forum

Two men with a hand in the air, breathtaking

emorse:
It costs less than N1m. (about $1400 - $2,300) to train a doctor in a federal school in Nigeria. Same medical degree costs between $50,000 and $450,000 in the UK. Correct me if I'm wrong please.

It’s around £40k - £50k (5 years) for tuition fees only, in the UK. Usually paid with a student loan which you pay back monthly once you earn above a certain threshold (9% of your income above the threshold)

emorse:
The "so called" greenery is not a product of chance now, is it? More likely, it's a product of deliberate efforts. Anyway, I'm happy for those that have absconded and grateful to those who have decided to stay back to tend to our grass.

Great stuff

theredaddy:
i wasnt expecting you will bring the dictionary into this how naive can you be

I wasn’t pointing out the misspelling if that’s what you mean, I was saying it was corny

Arizoner:
there's this gal have crushing on because i thought she's cute and perfect. I visited her Instagram page to see her pictures. Would you believe this babe once had a big nose compared to the slimmer nose I'm used to physically. I surfed the internet and discovered she did non surgical rhinoplasty. I'm pained. I thought she was perfect and natural

Oh ok, well she probably did it for herself, as long as she’s happy

Arizoner:
babe, have you used nose fillers b4?

No

theredaddy:
when was the last you even had a gud one ... be forming linda holmes there

Grown man talking about ‘a gud one’ lol *cringe*

theredaddy:
Anything not in favour of women creeps you out, even fathers day creep you out, so hush & rest

2elliot:
Your gender doesn't need any gaps in a story to act irrational.

Geddifok

I love Mr Ibu

Happy birthday to his wife

BigBashiru:
Yes she did.....cos she is "fed up" or "bored"....that's women for you....

I call BS. I’m sure there’s a gap in the story the narrator conveniently omitted

Oh boy

Pakute:
You thought Olobe was an insult, you see what you're very done to yourself, you've lost your root and i don't even pity you a bit. If i want to insult you, i would do it in the language you understand, without hiding it.
And yeah, weare building Nigeria back to greatness when the king of Saudi came the country for medical, when foreign students were heads over heels studying here. And listen to me, UK is not offering us nothing, we simply getting what rightfully belonged to us.

I want greatness for Nigeria too but I’m just realistic.

Anyway good luck with your building

gbengaeed:
What about the education fee? Can you compare both.

We’re talking about people who have already passed through tertiary education, are trained etc. Education is a different topic

UK - Free primary and secondary education, subsidised tertiary education (student loans, grants, scholarships)

Nigeria - I don’t know much about school fees in Nigeria beyond public schools are obviously a lot cheaper than private (naturally), but I doubt they have adequate schemes (if any) to help fund the education of the average person

Again, I’m not saying UK is a dreamland, just pointing out the MANY areas it’s better/more conducive than Nigeria

Silentgroper:
. Right...



You don't speak for those guys though

I was being sarcastic sha

Silentgroper:
are you sure it's not because of one of those massive jiggly thing you've got on you

No it’s definitely because of my kind heart and pleasant energy

Pakute:
Why the insults?, ain't you no longer Olobe?.. Try & be sensible. A Nigerian talking about martyr because you feed off the crumbs they throw at you off the resources stolen from your motherland. If you've got any shame, you shouldn't be proud labouring as a slave for some people who turned your ancestors to slaves several centuries before you were born. We ain't leaving Naija to rot for those boasting being abroad, we are building this country to greatness.

I thought ‘Olobe’ was an insult, sorry for insulting you.

Yeah the same ‘greatness’ taking leaders to doctors abroad instead of in their own country.

I’m not boasting about being abroad, I just don’t think it’s unreasonable to prefer a place that offers better working and living conditions.

truthsayer009:
Ofcourse, It happens to everybody. When Ahmed Musa the football player upgraded, he left the over-weight wife after he made money in Middle East for a slim Port Harcourt babe, shortly after he married another slim Abuja babe.

So If a lady will leave you, then she will leave. Whether you upgraded her or not, what will be will be.

Lol nah the ‘upgrade’ is definitely THE chief factor, it is not whether you upgraded him/her or not

I do however find that men are given more grace to ‘upgrade’ than women who are expected to be ‘ride or dies’ and called all sorts of gold diggers

Pakute:
Olobe, where's your shame?, we're Nigerians and we are proud like that. If we robbed the UK of her resources to build naija like she did to us, UK citizens would have been struggling to come to Naija and seek employment as shoe repairers.

*insult removed* if you want to be a martyr for Naija, no one is stopping you. If others want better for themselves and families, that’s their prerogative

Lade18:
Actually, it's in the ancient wisdom of "never upgrade a woman". Women don't upgrade men. Well, women don't love men . It's more common than it's uncommon that a woman will use you to level to impress men that are better than you. It's always the same story of "I send her to school and she dump me" and I used to ask "why the fuvk are u sending a woman to school? Once you build a woman up, she automatically outgrown you and seek better options than you. Date women at your level or maintain her at the level you meet her.

Men will get wiser as times go on. Use your look to game a woman not your wallet. If a woman wants me, I know it's my look , so why the Bleep will I spend on you if you ain't spending on me?

Lol yeah I know it happens, men do it too when they upgrade in life and swap the girl whose been there from the beginning and helped him for a ‘shinier’ upgrade

But I won’t be surprised if there are gaps in his story

thebosstrevor1:
I was expecting this reply.

Yeah kiss the exploiter on the foot because he pays exploitative salaries on time. What sort of slave mentality is that.

I am out of here...cant continue argueing unnecessarily.

It’s even sadder when your own people are treating you worse than the ‘exploiter’.

Arrivederci, you’ll be sorely missed

God1000:
Which side of the story do we believe now?

An autopsy should be conducted

‘Side of the story’ when someone was killed because she said something ‘he didn’t like?’

thebosstrevor1:
So by better working conditions and pay means by being exploited, working round the clock for 2 weeks without rest, having to live with roomates where the they can hear what i am doing and taking home low pay, taking 40% of doctors salaries as tax is what you call better salaries and better working conditions.

Even the bbc did a writeup about the working conditions for foreign doctors in the uk and nothing has changed.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63141929

At least they’re guaranteed to get paid for their ‘round the clock for 2 weeks’ service.

And whilst taxes in the UK definitely take a fair bit, it is not ‘40%’ of the whole salary

For the average person, earnings up to 12,570 aren’t taxed. Between £12,571 and £50,270 are taxed at 20%. Between £50,271 and £150,000 will be taxed at 40%

Better than being owed months upon months in arrears, better than not even being able to afford some treatments at the hospital you work in

thebosstrevor1:
What better pay are you talking about

Uk born doctors are moving out of the Uk to earn better salaries, that is why the NHS are recruiting doctors from developing countries to replace them.

Btw, Uk doctors are about to go on industrial action soon because of these "better pay and working conditions" you mentioned

Still better pay and working conditions than Nigeria so what’s your point?

I even said the pay in the UK is substandard/poor but it’s better than even shitter pay in Nigeria and possibility of shit pay that you’re managing being owed months in arrears

FreeStuffsNG:
Please stop this kind of blatant lies. Cuban healthcare professionals are among the least paid in the world yet never abandon their parents and nation after being trained with tax of the state. The cuban doctors particularly are highly respected globally yet they do not flee abroad.

Nobody will cheat others and escape karma. I do not have a case against taking your services anywhere but if tax payers funds are used to train you and you abandon them, you will not escape the consequences!

Well not everyone would’ve attended a public university.

But most importantly, the healthcare system in Nigeria is poorly managed, you can’t expect doctors, medical workers etc. to disregard their own self interest and ‘martyr’ themselves for Nigeria, a place where the leaders are using ‘tax payer funds’ to seek medical care abroad.

Humans will always be attracted to better pay and working conditions.

Racoon:
Even the grass on the other is not always greener as thought. So much for japa syndrome.Meanwhile the march to make Nigeria work continues

The substandard pay and working conditions in the UK is paradise compared to what you’ll get in Nigeria.

So the grass may not have been great in itself, but it’s definitely greener than the sludge in Nigeria

Executive729:
Stop talking trash for sake of it or something you don't really know very well, this what they all do. If you don't know you know peace

Shut it

Disgusting

Adeolokonla:
You resemble one of my ex dat year.

Nice

Glistinin:
Cool. Can I dm you?

May I know what you want to dm me about? You can quote me in a less busy/dead thread

AkpaMgbor:
IOS 16. The iPhone 7 still gets ios15 update.

Yeah, so he can’t upgrade beyond iOS15, meaning it can have iOS15 but nothing later. We’re saying the same thing

So she just served him divorce papers for absolutely no other reason other than she wanted to stay in the US?

The guy sounds very possessive and controlling, so whilst I can’t categorically say he did anything or what he did, I won’t be surprised if there are gaps in this story and incriminating details have intentionally been left out.

Something about this story creeped me out

Glistinin:
The same with me though. I have never liked any lady beyond superficial attraction.
Ultimately, how do you get guys you are attracted to to be first attracted to you effortlessly? I guess you are comely, intelligent, independent and not snubbing?

Lol I don’t ‘get’ them to like me first per se, I guess they’re just attracted to something in me for whatever reason. I’m a nice person sha