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My apologies, I didn't mean to be rude. But I was a little bemused by all the excuses some of y'all are making for a covert racist comment cloaked as a backhanded compliment. C''mon, yes, we weren't there but I know for sure that he couldn't have seen any Senegalese player selling sunglasses because all the Senegalese players are fulltime professional footballers.


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alignacademy:
Thanks for the feedback.

You have a right to your opinion like everyone else.

But are you really suggesting intolerance of views you don't like? That would be Terrorism 101!

None of us was there to see the people he claimed to see.

Just re-read your post, and ponder on how respectful you are with your comments.

Not everything must be painted with the broad brush of racism.

Thanks again

So because he called them "resourceful chaps", that makes the crap he said acceptable to you? Whom amongst the Senegalese players has he met selling sunglasses

It's airheads like yourself who make white folks to disrespect black people

#Mugu


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alignacademy:
But he said they were resourceful chaps in the next sentence

Why is that being ignored?

Anyway he has deleted the tweet: let's hope some people get on with their lives

Fake news! So here's the tally:

Cristiano Ronaldo (Portugal) - 85 goals in 152 appearances
​Ferenc Puskás (Hungary & Spain) – 84 goals in 89

And they are still giving Cristiano all these accolades? Somebody needs to take a class in maths. These media propaganda is really sickening


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Again, facts are facts. The fact is, he was on the bench when Portugal won the Euro. I am not blaming him for getting injured but the fact is that he didn't play more than 20 mins in the final. Hence, giving him credit for winning the Euro Cup for Portugal is disrespectful to the players who actually played the game. The media might be giving him credit for everything but when the history is written, the real credit for Portugal winning the Euro should go to all the unsung heroes in that team. To me, Portugal won the Euro in spite of Cristiano Ronaldo not because of him.

I think one of the worst media propaganda is trying to make everyone believe that this Portugal team is nothing without Cristiano. That is too far from the truth. They don't even give credit to the coach, who's actually the architect of the whole thing.


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saintkeppy:
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Was it not his goal that took Portugal to the final? I'm pretty sure u didn't CHECK his Goals that propelled Portugal thru' to the Final.
So u expect him to play on with the injury he sustained in that Euro Final?
If Portugal did not win that Euro, i'm sure you'll still say CR7 hasn't won anything on Int'L level.

Sincerely, I don't expect such a response from you.

I totally agree with you. I don't see CAF doing anything even if they want to, because these countries belong in the same federation with us and that's how it would remain. The only option to prevent from wasting our slots is to stop them by beating them in the qualifiers. Hopefully, the expansion of world cup teams starting in 2022 world cup would help us achieve that aim ... provided that CAF doesn't pack strong West African teams into one or two groups sha.


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TheSuperNerd:
Then it is our west African's brothers duties to beat these guys themselves and indeed show that they belong at the World cup. We cannot wait until CAF does something. In fact, CAF will never do such and we both know it.
At U-17 level, look at what CAF even did. They just reduced Africa's chances of having strong reps at the FIFA U-17 WC going forward (they zoned the qualifiers to enable other regions gain better chances of being represented at the CAF U-17 Afcon when in it's former format, West Africa always produces Africa's strongest going to the U-17 mundial). Is that the CAF that will do what O pari master, Icon79 is suggesting? Mehn I don't think so.

When Nigeria missed out on the Afcon because of Egypt, I accepted it because we just fell short even though we had our problems. Egypt were better and they still went on to reach the Afcon final.

If you wanna be at the world cup, then our brothers too must flex same muscles these North Africans flex and humble them big time. Finito.

Nna, you and I knew this but those who run out football are clueless. If you follow me on twitter, if you'd have noticed how much I pledged with the NFF to retain Samson Siasia, despite losing to Egypt, after he took over from Oliseh; but Amaju and his crew were hell-bent on hiring a foreign coach!

There's no question in my mind that given the same support they have given Rohr, Samson Siasia would've done even better than Rohr.


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Joebie:
We’ve been on the same page all this while. First we need to have a positive identity. And that should be our driving force in everything we do as a people. Our own na copy copy.

Modified
Copy copy will only give u mixed results. No sustainable direction for excellence.

KPOM!

Baba, icon, you hit the nail squarely on the head right there! That's why, I hope that Nigeria can retain Gernot Rohr after this world cup regardless of how we do. Let's give him another chance to continue his project and see how he performs at the AFCON next year. it doesn't serve us well to hire and fire coaches after every single tournament.


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Icon4s:
They do well on the African soil because they are typically more organized and more motivated.

While teams from West Africa would have fired their coaches after a previous tournament, they will stay for months without a Substantive coach and then employ a local caretaker coach until when qualifiers are barely weeks away.

But meanwhile the North Africans would have put their houses in order early enough and kick start preparations.

They usually start the qualifiers flying while we from West Africa would have gotten one or two bad results first before struggling to come back and by then the damage would have been done already.

Just like Nigeria, sometimes Cameroun tend to self destruct (just like in Brazil 2014).

As per the Egypt or Morocco's group, let me tell you that this Portugal team isn't that great. I don't see them making it past the round of 16. Morocco would've beaten them if they had taken their chances and/or didn't gift Cristiano Ronaldo a FREE header. Morocco clearly outplayed them today. As regards to Iran, even Stephen Keshi's team with all the problems they encountered were still able to outplay Iran in 2014. Iran was lucky to escape with goalless draw in that game. Go watch the game again on youtube. So I can't see how either Ghana or Cameroun would have much problems getting a result against them. Even Morocco clearly outplayed them but then shoot themselves on the foot with a last minute own goal.

Trust me, you'll see how weak these teams (Iran, Russia, Portugal) are when/if they get to the round of 16.


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andrew444:
Abeg comot cameroun there,cameroun has not get past the group stage since 1998

Cameroun will never survive morocco or Egypt group

You think a group that has Portugal or Spain is easy ?

Good point - especially at the highlighted.


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TheSuperNerd:
I know Russia is not special. And I understand your point but sadly it cannot happen. Not with this CAF. Check my reply to Sir Chrisooblog and see why.

Look, as it stands, if we don't wanna see those North Africans as you say messing up our chances as a continent, then we must be ready to take our game level even further too when they up their own game and then beat them blue, black and green! That way, we get to see more of Black Africa. After all, what gives any team the right to go to the mundial if you cannot beat your fellow Africans from the North in the qualifiers naa?

Nerdie, that's the problem! These North Africans tend to up their game when they meet African oppositions, but they always get intimidated when they get to the world stage. I mean, you know as well as I do that Ghana would've gotten a result against Uruguay and would've, most likely, beaten Russia. There's nothing special about Russia. Watch them collapse against Uruguay in the next game.


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TheSuperNerd:
But Ghana had the chance naa... To usurp Egypt and qualify in their stead. So what stopped them? As for Cameroon, well they were just unfortunate to be grouped with us.


But mehn @bolded... You are funny here I swear... Loooollll

Bingo!

And like I said yesterday, that's the problem we had in the game against Croatia. Rohr tried to make us play with defensive organization that those Scandinavian countries. But that's not in our DNA. Senegal on the other hand who are coached by a son of the soil, came with their typical African football, with pace and power, and they got a result.


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Joebie:
Sir, they play like Europeans. That tells it all.

Big Joe, I am big supporter of that idea myself; however, that might not even be the panacea to having these mediocre Arab countries from representing us. Because they tend to play well against African oppositions, it's only when they get to the world stage that they often forget how to play football


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Joebie:
I’ve been saying we need to change the format of CAF WC qualification although it has favored us sometimes. We need several preliminary rounds and a final 12 countries that would play in a mini-league format. All the rounds should be spread such that the qualification matches for the next WC begin immediately after the end of the current WC.
Africa would be better represented and a larger pool of players involved.

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AFCON should be held once in every 4 years instead.

You can never count on the North Africans to come through for Africa. Once you get on the world stage, their feet turn to clay. Put either one of Nigeria, Ghana, Cameroun, or Senegal (take your pick) into any of these North African World Cup groups (Egypt, Morocco, or Tunisia) and we'll be talking about, at a minimum the round of 16.

Let's hope that Nigeria and Senegal makes it to the round of 16, so that we can make a case for CAP to form a separate zone for the North African countries. They haven't represented Africa well. In fact, they are wasting our slots. For instance, there's no doubt in my mind that Ghana or Cameroun would've done much better than Morocco, Egypt or Tunisia!


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Morocco killed themselves today, same as in the first game (versus iran). How can you give an opportunist like Cristiano Ronaldo a FREE header inside the box

And to add insult to injury, they turned out to be goal shy as well

Unbelievable!!!


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KPOM! Truer words have never been spoken, my brother!


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Diickrider:
Until he leads Portugal to the final of the world cup and win it, these goals are useless. Miroslav klose, Ronaldo delima, pele has better world cup goal ratios and the world is not shouting. Messi led Argentina to 2014 finals with less than 5 goals to his name and won MVP. If Ronaldo can't reach this final, then he is doing nothing new in football world

Actually, Leo Messi has won the U-12 World Cup, won the Olympic Gold Medal, led Argentina to two COPA America Finals (a tournament tougher than the Euro) and then singlehandedly led Argentina to the finals of the World Cup and won the MVP.

Now what has Ronaldo achieved with Portugal? Because the last time I checked, Portugal won the Euro without him!


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Jokerman:
What has your Messi achieved outside Barcelona?

Listen, except from Etebo and Ndidi, none of them puts in enough effort in that match. Short and simple!


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Sportilitica:
Not fair, Mikel did all he could. He might not have been at his best but he did what he could

African teams have scored more OWN GOALS at this World Cup than the rest of the world combined!



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Word right out of my mouth. I was just about posting the same thing when I saw your post.

You've said it all, buddy. To add anything else would be most uncivilized.


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ChrisKels:
John if you are truly as patriotic as u pretend to be, then you are in the best position to bring this boys as someone who has been there before and someone who started that silly trend. Help correct your error by going to talk to those guys about the implications of dumping Nigeria for England and the gains of playing for Nigeria. Make them understand that u made a mistake starting this trend, then u enjoin them not to repeat the same mistake you made, no be to dey here dey yarn trash.

Actually, that could be a double edged sword. I am a big believer in talking up your opponent in the media, to make them overconfident and complacent. However, a good coach shouldn't overplay that card the way Rohr did before the match against Croatia. It created fear in our players and made them play with timidity. They showed too much respect to Croatia and that's exactly why they lost the match.

Being the underdog should make you play without fear because you have nothing to lose. But in this case, it had the opposite effect. Talking from personal experience here, I would rather have my coach instill in me that I can beat my opponent. That works ALL the time.


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BascoVanVeli:
Motivational tactic it has worked perfectly against Algeria.

Good point. That Colombian team is pretty good. They were just so unlucky with the early red card today. I expect them to win the next two matches, but I still expect Senegal to make the round of 16. I believe that Senegal will beat Japan.


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asha80:
and some street skills too.. however if Senegal next match is against Colombia they should be ready for game of their lives

Nna, I thought I was the only one who noticed that defeatist attitude from Gernot Rohr. Here's what I posted on twitter on Sunday afternoon:

Mexico Coach Osario before game vs GERMANY
"The fans would feel good about the team after 90mins."

Nigeria Coach Rohr before game vs Croatia
"They are much better than us."


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kennysville:
Its the way the team was set up.... plus Rohr singing the ever useless chorus of Underdog in their eardrums... like they qualified by fluke

Same here. Initially, I thought he was just trying to deceive our opponents by making them feel over confident. But I started having doubt once he started singing the same tune at every freaking opportunity! I felt that he's starting to make his team lose confidence. Have you ever seen a boxer who goes into the ring telling you that he doesn't stand a chance because his opponent is much better than him?


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Odunayaw:
If not I started watching this crop of team since our failed 2016 AFCONQ I would have believed him

I used to think it is humility but I know now that it is buffoonery

LOL, don't mind them. Pace and power game is our style of play. And that's the ONLY way we can compete and defeat the Euro teams. We can't beat them with defensive organization. No way!


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Goke7:
Even on this forum some folks were arguing that physical African football is not it. See ourselves now. Use what you have to get what you want.

Did everyone noticed how hard Sadio Mane is working in this game? Both in the defensive and in the offensives ends of the field. That's what you call LEADING BY EXAMPLE.

Now, compare that to Mikel's meek effort in the game against Croatia! Tells you everything you need to know.


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Bingo!

Like I said on twitter last Saturday, my biggest problem was the timid display we exhibited against Croatia. I have never seen a Nigerian side play with such fear of the opposition since South Africa 2010. I am really getting sick and tired of these European journeymen we call coaches.


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kennysville:
Even if they end up losing this game, I wont mind.... cos they gave the fight and are not pedestrian.
#SoccerWithPurpose

They are playing like a true Sub-Saharan African team. Disrupting Poland with their power and pace. We could've easily beaten Croatia if we had played this style against them, but Gernot Rohr decided to go the opposite it.

Rohr would always remind you that Croatia is better than us because "if you look at the FIFA ranking they are ranked way higher than us." But remember that, going by FIFA ranking, Poland is ranked higher than Croatia. Imagine if their coach had adopted that attitude?


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Odunayaw:
Thank you Senegal

The question I kept asking myself is: is it because there's no women left in the world that a man would prefer to take another man's well used vehicle? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me.


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kennygee:
Does that makes him not worth helping?

The guy has the worse parents, why don't we have Child protective Services in Nigeria?

KPOM!!!

Their coach is the legendary Jose Pekerman. One of the most brilliant football minds in the world!


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Odunayaw:
With a relative new team too

Their coach is brilliant

This is what you call hard work! With 10 men, Colombia is still dominating Japan and was able to get an equalizing goal. And if they continue this way, they may even win the match playing 10 against 11.

Kudos to the Colombians so far!


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FACT:

So far all the other African countries (Egypt, Morocco, and Tunisia) have been unlucky to lose and none has lost by more than 1 goal except Nigeria. The other countries can blame hardluck for their inability to get something from their matches but Nigeria got beat and got beat fairly easily

Meanwhile, even the Asian minnows are rising up. Japan 1 Colombia 0. If they can hold on, then it would only remain CAF (Africa) that is yet to get a win or even a point so far at this World Cup


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That's my parapo right there, folks


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