₦airaland Forum

sudge7: It's funny how the tribal bashing explodes over the mention of the shortcomings of a political party. It's even more hilarious when each tribe puts down the other tribe, with their pride intact.

THIS IS THE FACT OF NIGERIA:

It cannot be said that one tribe has successfully contributed to the success of its indigenes or Nigeria as a whole. Pardon my french, we are all in the same shit hole, made by the same shit heads. Whether you're Yoruba, Igbo or Hausa. None of the big 3 has contributed to moving this country forward in a substantive way.

But do carry on, I think it is fun to mire in our own hypocrisy.

Hausas and yorubas contributed immensely to the down fall of nigeria . 45yrs of misrule in nigeria has put us in this mess. igbos are isolated from federal govt and they focused on private biz and development of nigeria and people like u yorubas are jealous about it. North and west failed nigeria woefully while igbo champion development in nigeria. where is the dividend of free education the west had in nigeria? nothing to show for it except tribalism and back stabbing other fellow nigerians

geeez: [b]The tide hasn't turned against ACN inYoruba land. It's only turned against mediocrity and visionless leadership. Akeredolu couldn't articulate himself during the campaigns and debates. Oke did much better and Mimiko was spot on. Some people would have voted ACN with the ongoing SW regional integration at the back of their minds. However, the candidate presented by the ACN didn't clearly define a roadmap for the state which in his plan should tee off from what Mimiko has been able to achieve. The results only reflected the voters' perception and expectation based on the candidates' promises, plans and antecedents which I think is brilliant. The SW will be better for it as governance Isi synonymous with performance in the region. If you look at the way Yorubas have been voting since 1999, you will realize that the governors that return are those that perform and this will send a signal to all those in elective positions in the region thereby leading to accelerated development as we've been seeing in recent years [/b]

governors that return are those that perform and this will send a signal to all those in elective positions in the region thereby leading to accelerated development

Which development are you talkning about ? as far as people know no place is developed in the west except lagos and lagos is so because of other tribes contributions. What is the evidence of the development u re talking about that ve made u people returned the performing governors ?. Dont deceive ur self

I never knew there was another party in the west except ACN . This victory for LP signifies danger for the ACN. i think the west rushed into embracing ACN without actually undertsanding the party because of regional inclination of the party .ACN has started showing its true colours and westerners are beginning to back out .

logica: Lol. Who's that m0r0n who thinks Ojukwu and Aburi Accord were the first to suggest a confederation? What was the regional system Nigeria operating before Ironsi came with Unification Decree (Decree 34)? Did each region not operate with some level of autonomy? Maybe you should ask Ironsi what he was thinking; since he apparently came in to implement NCNC agenda (the Unification Decree was much touted by the NCNC).

you are bitting about the bush . Then when regional ideation resurfaced again under aburi what happened ? in a conflict between 2 the third person should try to be neutral and not to take side that was actually what happened between the north, east and west . For the yorubas to have taken side with north does not vindicate u guys; it demostrated anti igbo and that is where yorubas wrong igbos and that stays . u guys attracted that lack of trust to yourself as far as igbos are concerned .

alj harem: e don finish ? Show is over

Ok now on a serious note.

We as a people should not let petty tribalism becloud our sense of reasoning. Yes I am an Awoist, this does not make me a tribalist rather it makes me a strong believer of Awolowo's idealogies. I know some would ask, "why can't I just form my own idealogy". Yes you all are right but Awolowo's idealogy is in line with mine. A commonwealth nation we all can enjoy. The first school Awolowo built was in Urhobo land and yes they made fun of him. Look at it today.

I love Igbos and trust me even today I was still called an Igbo man because of my looks I just laugh about it and wonder if Igbos on nairaland can see how Igbo loving I am. But this does not excuses Achebe's ignorance on the baifra issue.

Each time Baifra topic comes up and I am online it annoys me because first of all, I believe it is silly of us to be discussing issues that happened in 1960's in year 2012. Secondly, it brings out the worst in me because I have read and research on this baifra issue extensively. I have even done a personal survey to know more so I can be as objective as a man can be. I found out that I keep arriving at the same conclusions.

Sometimes it can drive a sane man crazy when you keep repeating the same issue and the same question are still being asked. Then you result to insult, that this point most yorubas would be laughing because you have started acting like lunatics.

I mean don't you find it embarrassing ? because I do for you all.

What have you researched? U did not do ur research well . I beleive that purposely dont want to acknowlwdge the real fact because u re highly tribalistic like your idol awolowo . Even kayode in his interview admitted that what happened - the pogrom in the north was unacceptable .for ojukwu to have offered igbos safe haven was the right to ve done at that time.

Ojukwu did not declared civil war. he made effort to avert that hence the aburi accord - confederation which would have been a way of avoiding war but gowon came back to nigeria to drop the agreement . Who wanted war here ? for gowon to have dishonoured the international agreement ojukwu had no option than to secede . Following secession, gowon declared war on biafran . If gowon hadnt declared , there would not have been war . Ojukwu did not declare war . He created safe region for his people who were being masacered in the north . So Alj harem get it right . Again know that history should always be refered for future . pre and post civil war cannot be swept under the carpet like that . It keep informing our decision sometimes . u cannot take it away . the damage has been done already . the relationship between the yorubas and igbos was damaged before and after the war and no denial on that and it cannot be fixed even if the country is divided , we remain enemies. Why yorubas ? The north is a well known enemy to igbos . The yorubas are close neighbors to igbos, compounded problems for igbos during the war that is why igbos perceive yorubas as traitors . Even up til now the yorubas continued to wage cold war against the igbos . it is pity that your elders are clamouring for confederation today which ojukwu requested 42 yr ago . Why didnt yorubas support ojukwu for conderation then , by now Nigeria would be a paradise . See the mess u have now ( Nigeria) called a country . Re u people not ashame of yourselves . Nigeria today is the off shoot of civil war .The fall of Biafra give rise for Northern domination which has put nigeria in this mess. Why didnt yorubas take over nigeria after the war? Because of cowardice , yorubas left nigeria at the mercy of the illiterate north . despite all these , a right thinking nigeria knows the capabilities of yorubas as against the north . U assisted the north to defeat igbos thereafter you relegated urself to the background watch north destroy Nigeria . happy for the igbos because they have bounced back and surpased every other tribes that wanted to anihilate them.

This is just the begining . Yorubas have to brace up for more . He who has skeleton his cupboard always worries about little move around him . They know their roles in civilian war hence not comfortable with igbos

Response to this thread is poor because majority of hausas and yorubas would not like it hence they remain mute

baysol: What transformation? Which Igbo? The one we know so well or another igbo? Abeg, Abeg no come here come sell cheap rated talk. Nobi them destroy the contry finish with their love of money all over the world because of them no Biafra no Nigeria attitude. This silly Igbo project must come to an end. This cocroaches have so shamelessly destroy every fabric of our society that even abroad you don't want to be seen as a Nigerian not to talk of being entrusted with sensitive positions because these low lives want to make a living. The this of calling everybody a Nigerian is over for good. It's either you are Igbo or Nigerian period. If any set of people are to transform Nigeria. It's MOST definitely not IGBOS. NOT ONLY DO THEY LACK THE KNOWLEDGE (Only make believe as they use in their fake businesses), They lack the will and clout it takes to succeed. Fake business, money clamour, Drug peddling, armed robbery, kidnapping, all sorts of crime for money .....etc are not what we need to build this nation. This is all they know and believe. Igbos we know better, we are not fooled by sweet talk.

Tell me in recent time whom amongst the yoruba stood out as per performance in govt as against the like of soludo, Akunyiri, Ngozi, prof Nnaji to name but few and you re here talking rubbish.

pazienza: Fake GDP that doesn't reflect on the lives of common people is useless. Statistics has it that the SE has the lowest rate of poverty in Nigeria,while the SW is poverty stricken. Nairaland is littered with threads on that,just search for them,i don't have time.

By the way,why do yoruba people like black and white TVs and mud houses a lot?

Laugh wan kill me now. people stil de use black and white tv?

Tell them . I dont know why some people would not want be fair in their lives . He is not arrogant ; just stating the obvious fact.

Xris74: Igbos were in charge in most spheres of Nigeria before the war
Then the war came and took them 40 years backward, and Yoruba and the North took over
Now its been 40 years after the war and Igbos have come back
So these talks about Igbo dominating the aviation ministry is hogwash
Who dominated Aso Rock all these years? Who dominates FCT, Agric ministry, military, police, customs, the maritime, NNPC, etc?
Igbos are back and Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani domination is slipping
Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani better understand the transient nature of human existence and occupation of leadership position in a plural society.
They better understand that in the new order, different Nigerian ethnic groups will dominate different spheres
The days of Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba chopping alone (and not dying alone) are over
Over these 40 years that Igbos were relegated due to the war, Yoruba and Hausa/Fulani shared Nigeria and left nothing for Igbo and the SS minorities
Now we are back like the big bad wolves and will devour you if you get in the way
For every dollar you pocketed since 1965,we will pocket a dollar now.
Imagine Yoruba and the North just being out of core power for less than fours years and they are moaning and grinning their teeth all over the damn place. What do you want Igbos and SS people to do who have been out of power for 40 years? Why are you so power hungry, yet no evidence of your ability or skillfulness to use the power to better the country? 40 years of combined North and Yoruba (mis)rulership and nothing to show for it? DAMN!!!!!

Now, we all will wreck or build Nigeria together, man for man, tout for tout, pen robber for pen robber, OPC/Boko Haram for MASSOB for MEND.

@coogar

Nwokem kedu ihe neme gi . ndi dika unu mere na ana akpari ndi igbo. respect onwegi . kwusi ihe a odighi mma

What is going to happen when igbos get presidency . the yorubas will seccede immediately . And it is going to happen as long as nigeria continues to be one . Igbo presidency is a question of time .In one Nigeria , igbo presidency is more close than yoruba presidency . South south now knows who is their enemy . They will soon chase yorubas out of Port hacourt

pazienza: Some people just have to get used to the fact that whatever undue advantage they got after the fall of the eastern region in 1970,is now sliping away from them.

Gham! u nailed it . That is the problem with the yurubas . This is just the begining

@ demmy

Waitin u de stil do here . is bed time . u re the only Yoruba left now o!

Yoruba pigs,una go cry,weep n commit suicide(awolowize).U aint see nothing yet!GEJ 2015.slaves aka agama lizards.d day all these Yoruba pretenders who prostrate like agama lizard to beg n greet me again,i'l smash their heads with my shoes.

@ 0.obim

u want kill me with laugh - agama lizard

@ bettyend

i think u re worried about igbo bravenes that is why u coninue to talk about . it is simple logic

@ Blueboy

U comment is welcome but yorubas will not think like that . They keep telling igbos to go back to east meanwhile this is one nigeria . igbos are the only tribe truly living that one nigeria since they will travel to other parts and call that place home and develop it . Tribalist yorubas will not do that instead they continue to show bad belle to industrous igbos

@ tunny tox

frankly u guys ( yorubas) are disgrace both home and abroad . U come abroad u continue ur back biting and back stabbing on fellow nigerians forgetting u re not in Nigeria thats why igbos are doing very very well abroad where there is fairnes and meritocracy

Tribalistic set of people . This is one nigeria . u want it , u get it .i tust igbos they will always survive even in adverse situations . they survived with 20 pounds after the war . Why not now they are re in charge . yorubas re are getting worried about igbo domination . What we re asking for is equity and fairnes shikena then everything will be fine . But if u continue your tribalism then igbo will showcase theirs too . It high time igbos started favouring their people . Igbo in high position of authorities tend to be professional and shun tribalism but this aviation woman started it for igbos then is good news and besides igbos are industrious and ll always delivery . Electricity supply has declined since Prof Nnaji resigned . Prof Humphrey Nwosu conducted the best election that Abiola won and he went ahead to declare abiola winner despite all odds. Would a yoruba do same for an igbo politician . Igbos are far far ahead

@ bettyend

Go and sleep is bed time in london or are u doing secirity night shift . yorubas in london are disgrace to nigeria and africa . dirty people . Go to USA, Canada , australia and see how igbo are representing nigeria and africa in a postive way . Mind u i am not in Nigeria . I am global citizen who moves around globally and as citizen of ist world with a diplomatic passport . So i know youbas both home and abroad .

Time is changing . People gona accept it . Nigeria cannot continue like this . there must be a change one day that why the yorubas are crying foul when this is just the beginning. Igbos left for trading and self reliance because of continued marginalisation in govt sectors . Now igbos are doing well on their own , yorubas are not happy about that . Nigeria belongs to all of us . If igbos are begining to find their ways into govt sector , so be it and is welcome much as as the South South south are begining to enjoy their positions hausa and yorubas have been enjoying . GEJ is hated by SW and North becuase he is undoing the wrongs of the past . GEJ is not even aggresive about it ; he is diplomatic and you people are making .

Biko nu umu igbo . anyi na akpali onwe anyi ebe a . Election nke a bidoro nke oma . amaghi m ihe neme ugbua . kany kwanyere onwe anyi ugwu . ekenem unu
nile- igbo kwenu !

Igbo kwenu! rienu! nuanu kwezionu! yaa! I love this . It has re empasis the greatness if the igbo people . Igbos are organised as being showcase here . Igbo nwere eze . onye kwere chi ya ekwere .Ride on brothers . Aham bu Chigbo Arthur Okoye from far away Australia always in solidarity with Ndi igbo . Kwezionu!

GEJ has good intention for nigeria . his body language say it all but unfortunately some tribes dont want him to succeed .election nowadays are the testimonies .

@ all harem

Ur peaceful statement is welcome but also u guys should learn to accept the truth . achebe also critised igbos too n igbos already know our weaknes and affirmed that he had told igbos the truth also.

@ ADEMOSU . spot on

@ Bettyend Is only in london . what about Usa , canada , australia ,france, other foreign countries where igbos dominate and yorubas chasing shadows . yes i give london to yoruba bacuase london is ancient and no more attractive and yorubas have tranfered their dirty outlook to london where they disgrace nigeria . No element of polishnes in yourbas at london . it is disgraceful that yorubas are in london.

@ minifonwon

reach me me on this no if ur not married yet . like ur unbiased contrubution to this topic given ur ethnic background . Cal me on this no +61451498944 please

@olaomide9ja

Go and take care of ur family . i know sb like go dey give ur wife wahala n it appears u dont have life , no job or business that y u re on internet exhibiting igbophobia . Go n get a life

@ olaomide9ja

U re too old to be in this forum . you re One of the old baba in sw who re polluting and feeding the sw younger generation with lies and wrong info about nig and SE. just dis appear from here . U re debating with 19 -21 yrs old boys and girls in this forum

@policewoman

make u no mind yoruba people . Bad belle people . You niger deltans are begining to know the yorubas because GEJ is in power . Once u re not yoruba forget it . highly tribalistic set of people . igbos re happy to get you guys on board to appeal to yorubas to join their br0thers for better southern nigeria not to continue to antagonise SS and SE because of bad belle. We re at the down of the new era in nigeria . SS, SE and North central new found coalitions since SW continues to fight fellow southerners

@ dayokanu

you guys re hypocritics . U tell igbos to back to the east then at same time u want one nigeria . which one u peolpe de self? most NL yorubas will want one nigeria at the same time they tell igbos to leave north and SW . Igbos wanted to go , u people said no .now igbos are every where making their money bad belle no agree now take it and i want igbos to go meanwhile u want one nigeria . Confused people