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Despite all the bad news, the kidnappings, the killings of lenders who came to demand repayments and what have you, humans are basically kind at heart ( the majority at least) which is why, when there is an accident, we often stop to see how we can help. Most of the time, I don't stop, but I stopped recently and helped direct recovery efforts in an accident I witnessed occur less than 3 weeks ago.

While it is the right thing to help, it is important to realize that they may be financial and legal consequences to stopping to help, the following article should help you weight the implications before you decide to stop to help a car/driver that is stuck.

Source: http://www.alloyandgrit.com/2014/12/02/when-the-road-to-recovery-becomes-the-highway-to-hell/

Without a doubt, one of the most rewarding aspects of owning a Land Rover is taking advantage of its strength and abilities to help others when conditions get tough. Personally, I’ve used my Discovery to get neighbors home during floods and blizzards when roads were all but impassable, and I’ve helped complete strangers out of ditches in whiteout conditions.

Now that “polar vortex” is once again on the tongues of meterologists across the greater northern parts of our country again, I’ve tossed my emergency recovery kit back in the truck in anticipation of another ugly winter.

A recent conversation, however, had me second-guessing whether I should even bother. A colleague brought up the question of who’s liable in the event something goes wrong when you voluntarily assist a stranded motorist. It’s not the kind of thing most of us think about when we pull up alongside a young mother with a toddler in a car seat, stranded hopelessly in a snow-packed ditch.

I certainly didn’t when I came upon this exact situation two years ago. Fortunately, the Nissan Altima with bald tires was easy to pull out and put back on the road (though, arguably, it didn’t belong there given the conditions) without undue incident.

But what if it hadn’t gone so easily? What if my recovery strap broke and recoiled against her windshield, injuring her? What if I latched onto the wrong part of her car and damaged it? What if pulling her car forced a catastrophic failure on my truck?

None of those things ever crossed my mind whenever I’ve stopped to help in the past, but this recent conversation really bothered me. You might think being a Good Samaritan would get you off the hook, but you’d be wrong. To get a better understanding of the risks of being Mr. Nice Guy, we consulted an insurance expert with a handful of possible scenarios to see how each situation might turn out should good intensions go awry.

In each of these scenarios, we assume you have stopped to pull a stranded car from a snowy ditch. Your vehicle is in proper operating condition, as is your recovery gear.

Scenario 1: You damage the other vehicle by incorrectly attaching the tow strap to it. Are you liable for the damage done to the car?

Answer: Yes, you may be liable for damage done to the other car by pulling on it.

Advice: Know what you’re attaching your recovery gear to. Consult the vehicle owner’s manual if you’re unsure. It may take an extra couple of minutes, but it’s better than accidentally bending a suspension arm or pulling off some superficial trim by mistake. In a worst case scenario, you could always record a short cell-phone video of the other vehicle’s owner granting you permission to recover their vehicle and accepting liability for any damages that may occur.

Scenario 2: The tow strap breaks and recoils into the other vehicle, damaging it and possibly injuring its driver or passengers. Are you liable for any damage and/or injuries?

Answer: Yes, you may be liable for vehicle damage and medical injuries.

Advice: First, remove anyone from the car that doesn’t need to be in it, even the driver depending on conditions. Next, only use gear that is in good working condition. Replace any gear that is showing signs of wear or fatigue. Also, know the working limits of your gear. A stuck car will have considerably more resistance than a free one, especially if you’re pulling upwards, as from a ditch. Secure your equipment well and double check before pulling. In the process of pulling, always be smooth, avoiding jerking or running starts that can temporarily overload the recovery gear.

Scenario 3: In the course of extracting the other vehicle, it is damaged by rocks, trees or other snow-covered debris in the ditch. Are you liable for the damage done to the car?

Answer: No, any damage incurred will be considered part of the original accident.

Advice: To cover yourself, you may want to take cell-phone pictures or video before starting to remove the vehicle, noting the conditions and any prior damage. While you’re at it, you may want to go ahead and get a video authorization from the owner to recover the car, with their acknowledgement that further damage may occur.

Scenario 5: After pulling the other car free, the other driver runs into your truck, unable to stop. Is the other driver liable for damages, or could you be considered liable if it’s determined you pulled too fast or hard?

Answer: Yes, the other vehicle’s owner would be liable for the damage, but depending on the amount and type of damage, it’s possible that the accident may be further investigated and both parties assigned partial responsibility.

Advice: First, give yourself enough distance with appropriate-length recovery straps. At least a car-length should separate the two vehicles for minor recoveries; two car-lengths or more should be considered for situations where momentum may be a factor.

Also, plan your recovery for conditions and possible reactions. You wouldn’t want to pull a vehicle onto an icy downhill surface, for instance. If the driver of the other vehicle is to remain in his car for control purposes, make sure you are able to clearly communicate to him and that he clearly understands any instructions you give him. Worst case, have another person record the recovery on your phone.

Scenario 6: Despite your efforts during the course of recovery, the other vehicle becomes even more entrenched than when you started. Can the other driver demand you pay for professional recovery, either in part or in full?

Answer: No. They got themselves stuck in the first place, and you attempted to help them (presumably) for no charge. You made no guarantee of recovery, and if you fail, they are still in exactly the same situation they were when you arrived.

Advice: Make it clear from the beginning that you will try your best to help them, but if you are unsuccessful they will have to call a professional.

The takeaway in each of these situations is that you and the other parties involved should understand that you are not a professional, just a fellow motorist offering a helping hand. Things may go wrong. In this modern technological age we live in, your best defense in any of these situations may be to document the recovery from start to finish with your cell phone camera, and obtain a video authorization from the other party before agreeing to help.

We would like to thank Dave Miller, a State Farm Insurance agent who operate in the Chicago Suburbs, for assisting us with these questions. Dave is also an avid exotic car enthusiast who runs his own website drivewithdave.com.

kkon:
so sorry to hear that hope u are much better now? how much are we looking at?

Much better. Does your car come with JBL Audio or not? Once I have this data i can quote as it will help me determine if we need a special adapter to ensure it works with the factory am or not

kkon:
ok lets go 4
just d dash board player and hope it comes with a reverse cam. make an informed decision 4 me with price
consideration or better still give me like 2 options to choose 4rm. tnx
waiting 4 ur price quote.

I have been under the weather, just recovering, otherwise I should have replied you since.

Yes it comes with reverse camera and you will get brands you can trust like Pioneer, Panasonic, Sony or JVC not some Chinese knockoff with no pedigree

lonelydora:
Ok. Can you please inbox me your Whatsapp Number?

Done!

oluwaseunla:
Please I need a leather seat conditioner. I don't want those cleaner+ conditioner mixture o. I have a cleaner, need just a conditioner, small size (16 oz). Pinnacle or Lexol is fine, or any excellent brand. Thanks.

Will this fly?

I doubt, the last time I brought in OEM Spark plug wires via passenger as opposed to freight flight, they discarded the diaelectric grease, so anything in the form of liquid or gel cannot fly with me. It is liable to be suspected to be something dangerous. Should I bring it in via freight?

IdaraCHODB:
Based on this report, http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/headlight-restoration-kits/buying-guide.htm, Sylvania Headlight Restoration Kit is your product! Now I need to know, they will let it fly with me! Otherwise, it will come with freight cargo!!

Sorry, can't fly. Will be seized at the airport!

Special Shipping Information: This product may not be available for 1 or 2 day shipping due to federal regulations that require it to ship via ground ship methods only. This product can only be shipped within the 48 contiguous states.

Can only go via freight cargo

TCD:
I need car headlight cleaner... Anyone with reasonable price. Thanks

Based on this report, http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/headlight-restoration-kits/buying-guide.htm, Sylvania Headlight Restoration Kit is your product! Now I need to know, they will let it fly with me! Otherwise, it will come with freight cargo!!

kkon:
oga im yet to hear 4rm u o.

Will email you soon! in the next 6 to 12 hours

lonelydora:
Anyone you think is best for me.

Personally I use EPDM,maybe that is what you should use, given that even the manufacturers are going that way!

kkon:
well im quite confused about the dvd players which one will u suggest paying attention to the price .and that will also serve well. also will it come with the reverse cam and navigation system. give me a gud price for both items lets see how it goes. thanks..my email is kingsleyovrawah@gmail.com

Dear friend

This is serious assignment oooo

in Dash DVD players are not the same as in Dash Navigation systems. It is possible to have an inDash DVD player without navigation ( such as those I listed above), or an inDash DVD+Navigation system.

All the above constitute the former. I gather you need the later. To be honest with you, am no expert in the later. From my research a Navigation System that works perfectly in the US might be worthless in Nigeria, I cannot recommend to you unless I am convinced it won't disappoint you, this explains the delay in responding to the issue of in Dash Navigation System.

I have discovered that there are lots of Nigerian companies that either manufacture or sell such, will email you details so you can make your choice. I tend to prefer this route rather than cause you to commit funds only to discover that it doesn't work for you. You will not be happy and you will make others unhappy to do business with me. I would rather not make a sale to you than let than happen

talk2odim:
Seems 2 are just transmiters and not MP3 players. Can I see pics and the cost of each pls. Thks a lot.

GOgroove

http://www.cnet.com/products/gogroove-flexsmart-x2-in-car-stereo-bluetooth-adapter/

http://www.gogroove.com/GOgroove-FlexSMART-X2-In-Car-Stereo-Bluetooth-FM-Transmitter-Charger-pid8419

VersionTech
http://www.amazon.com/VersionTech-Universal-Transmitter-Modulator-Hands-Free/dp/B00MAIMI2S

iClever
http://www.amazon.com/iClever%C2%AE-IC-BTT03-Wireless-Bluetooth-Transmitter/dp/B00Q6I0BWW
YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER
http://www.cnet.com/products/motorola-roadster/

lonelydora:
I need Serpentine belt and Timing belt for 2003 Honda Accord V6.

EPDM or Neoprene?

uwemjack:
3.0l V6

You've got mail. Decide between the 3 options I gave you!

uwemjack:
Hi,
Please I need a pair of inner tie rod for 1998 toyota camry. I have sent you a mail.
Cheers

Whats your engine capacity

1.8L L4?
2.0L L4?
2.2L L4?
2.5L 6 Cyl?
3.0L V6?

Which do you use?

This is yet another example of why your shade-tree mechanic cannot always be right that tokunbo is better than new.

You can read more here:
http://www.gates.com/products/automotive/tools-and-sales-aids/belt-wear-diagnosis/neoprene-vs-epdm-belts

Also if you go EPDM, how you check for belt wear changes:
http://www.daycoproducts.com/how-do-you-check-for-worn-belts-today
http://www.agcoauto.com/content/news/p2_articleid/198

kkon:
i think ceramic will do and geniune toyota part. how much are we looking at? and i also learnt that the 03 camry shares the same break pad with the seinna model?. i will also need dvd dash board player for this same camry give me a price quote lets see if we can do business..

Must it be Toyota OEM.

There are heavy duty High Performance Brake pads from elsewhere like Akebono ( my personal favorite) as well as others like Centric, Raybestos, Power Stop, Bendix and Bosch. But if you insist on Toyota OEM, you will have it.

Well, I haven't done a cross-check so I cant confirm or disprove that they bought share the same pads, i do know that Camry and Sienna have a lot in common though!

As regard the DVD Dash board player, you have to decide which model and brand you want before we can start talking pricing

I found a few for you to consider and make a choice:
Pioneer AVH100DVD
Pioneer AVHX5700BHS
Pioneer AVHX3600BHS
Pioneer AVHX2600BT

BOSS AUDIO BV9364B
BOSS AUDIO BV9967B
BOSS AUDIO BV9976B
BOSS AUDIO BV99821
BOSS AUDIO BV9986BI

talk2odim:
I am looking at getting a car MP3 player that has volume control and equalizer settings with bluetooth connectivity. Can this be feasible.

Yes, it is possible.

You even have options

GOgroove FlexSMART X2 Bluetooth Wireless In-Car FM Transmitter with USB Charging, Music Control and Hands-free caling works with Apple, Samsung, HTC, LG, SOny and more Smartphones, Tablets, MP3 players


VersionTech Universal LCD Display Bluetooth Wireless Car MP3 FM Transmitter Modulator Radio Adapter Handsfree Car kit with Handsfree Calling, Music Control, Mic, and charging Port for iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus iPhone 5S 5 5C 4S iPod, Android Small Cell Phone, MP3 Players and other devices

iClever IC-BTT03 2nd Gen Wireless Portable bluetooth Stero Music Transmitter and Adapter/Dongle for TV, Desktop, Laptop, Tablet, MP3/MP4 player

chiebube:
Please i need the TIMING BELT and THERMOSTAT for 2000 Toyota Sienna urgently.

Please how much will this cost? I have sent u a PM.

You have mail!

chiebube:
Please i need the TIMING BELT and THERMOSTAT for 2000 Toyota Sienna urgently.

Please how much will this cost? I have sent u a PM.

Seen. Will respond ASAP

talk2odim:
I am looking at getting a car MP3 player that has volume control and equalizer settings with bluetooth connectivity. Can this be feasible.

What you want is subjective. what brand or brands are you looking at?

kkon:
i will need both front and back brake pads for 03 camry. how much will it cost?

ceramic? metallic? semi-metallic? what type of pad do you need? Will any brand will do?or should I make the choice for you?

Do you need things like spark plugs, air filters, high performance oil filters? cabin air filters? serpentine belts? timing belts? ignition coils? brake pads? fuel pumps? fuel pump filters? thermostats? tie rod ends? inner tie rods? idler and tensioner pulleys? Brake shoes? oxygen sensors?

You get the drift? small items...

I can get them for you from the US. I will be arriving Nigeria on January 8, you get them from me 2 days later, on January 10 then will go back to the US and return January 28, you get them from me 2 days later on January 30. The items must be such that can fit within luggage and must be items that are not restricted from being carried in aboard a passenger flight.

Send me a private message and I'll see how we can be of help to each other

opeyemi87:
Pls I need to replace the following parts in my car. Front Grille, Front Bumper and Engine hood(bonnet) for a Honda crosstour 2012 model.. I am looking for original brand new parts and not Tokuboh... wouldn't mind bringing them in from US if it not to expensive..

You can either purchase them yourself and ship to my US address in which case I will tell you the weight and how much you will need to pay for customs, clearing and insurance in Nigeria

OR

if you want me to give you the cost excluding weights, send me your VIN

I have updated this thread with relevant information related to the issue addressed in this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/1437717/use-speed-limiters-way-out

The rules in Kenya and Zambia and South Africa do not apply to private vehicles.

In Kenya, the rules apply only to matatus and other vehicles that serve the public. The title of the Kenyan Law is instructive: The Traffic Act—Speed Governor for Public Service and Commercial Vehicles .See a link to the law here: http://kenyalaw.org/kl/index.php?id=4046 . But see also http://www.nation.co.ke/lifestyle/money/Dalcom-Enterprises-Omata-Speed-Governors/-/435440/2268092/-/o81kplz/-/index.html

In Zambia, it applies to all long distance public service vehicles, here is a link to the relevant law: http://www.zambialii.org/zm/legislation/statutory-instrument/2006/19

In South Africa, here is a link that discusses the issue: http://www.wheels24.co.za/News/New-SA-road-rules-Speed-limiters-for-taxis-20141111. Here is a link to the law: http://cdn.24.co.za/files/Cms/General/d/2914/f6dd81eb1bd44979b0974a0eb6e96a52.pdf. As you can see, the law is very new. Which means either of 2 things, that a fresh law on the subject matter has just been enacted or a previous one repealed. I have not had the time to confirm which is the case.

In Uganda, here are links that address the issue of what obtains there:http://www.newvision.co.ug/news/641971-city-drivers-get-new-speed-limits.html, http://www.ulii.org/ug/legislation/statutory-instrument/47-0 and http://www.ulii.org/ug/legislation/statutory-instrument/59-1

In Tanzania, here is what obtains: http://www.thisday.co.tz/?l=10449. Infact, I pity them 50Km/hour? And the law: http://www.judiciary.go.tz/judiciary/admin/files/legislations/The_Road_Traffic.pdf. And a discussion of what is going on there: http://nao.go.tz/?wpfb_dl=77 and http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/road_safety_status/2013/country_profiles/united_republic_of_tanzania.pdf

So far in Africa, Uganda has, Kenya has, South Africa has, Zambia has, Has Nigeria done so ( as far as the law books are concerned)?

I am yet to conduct research but I doubt that even the country in which the WHO has its headquarters has implemented speed limiters on private and public vehicles.

I did however find research that suggests that at least 33 countries have implemented speed limit devices on heavy duty trucks. Here is the link if you are interested in the details: https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/motorvehiclesafety/tp-tp14810-menu-369.htm

Even more interesting would be a research on how many of the 194 member countries of the WHO are implementing this policy of speed limiting devices as opposed to speed limits in general, and then to speed limit devices on public vehicles (that can be further broken down into the types of public vehicles e.g., buses and trucks and tankers) and to private vehicles.

I ran a search with the term "speed limit devices" on the WHO website and while I saw speed limits, I did not see speed limit devices. Of course I did not do a very thorough search, as I was rather busy. But I will find the time to do so

Thankfully, given the limited resources at the disposal of the FRSC, they are starting with speed limiters for heavy duty trucks and things like that see this link http://www.channelstv.com/2014/11/19/frsc-to-introduce-speed-governor-june-1-2015/

I have no statistics to back it up but I strongly suspect that heavy duty trucks, luxurious buses and other smaller buses cause more carnage on the road than private vehicles. Make them leave us alone Ooooo!

I stand to be corrected. I state the facts as I think them to be but will surrender to superior facts if they can be provided and I find them to be so!

Let me close with this food for thought which contains research conducted by Professor Christo Bester and US student MS Marais which was presented at a recent Southern African Transport Conference, held in Pretoria. : http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/different-speed-limits-for-buses-trucks-and-cars-not-enforced-research-study-2012-07-19

But see also the speed limit law in Kenya suffered a setback:http://www.24tanzania.net/kenya-high-court-stops-speed-limit-law-vehicle-inspection/

On traditional “bottom-up” automotive engine coolant systems, the lower hose runs to the water pump’s suction side. As on any fluid system, suction results in negative pressure, aka vacuum. The higher the suction force, the higher the vacuum and the lower a liquid’s boiling point. If the fluid begins boiling (changing state from a liquid to a vapor), air bubbles form, which can lead to water-pump cavitation and loss of cooling efficiency. Essentially, the water pump goes into “vapor lock” and no longer circulates coolant through the engine. The air bubbles in the pump can even recompress, causing a small explosion that can damage the pump’s impeller vanes.

The smaller an orifice’s cross-sectional area for a given flow volume, the higher the vacuum—so the lower hose is typically made larger than the top hose to minimize suction/vacuum at the pump inlet, as well as to allow sufficient fluid volume to reach the pump so it can produce proper pressure on its outlet side.

Don’t second-guess factory hose sizes!

Read more: http://www.hotrod.com/how-to/engine/1412-why-is-the-lower-radiator-hose-larger-than-upper/?adbid=10153065166539523&adbpl=fb&adbpr=16240699522&sm_id=social_aumohotrodsshub_default_20141115_35635307#ixzz3JKWd2XjF
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Related and maybe relevant to the topic in general: https://autos.yahoo.com/blogs/motoramic/a-car-dealer-s-scientific-guide-to-the-most-and-least-durable-used-cars-214802625.html

FYI

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/bmw-drops-castrol-for-shell-as-official-oil-supplier-88737.html

CityNG:
It's absolutely true that you get more power from headers, well designed headers from a good manufacturer like Magnaflow who conducts research and development.

IMHO, if you install a full exhaust system from them plus an aftermarket freeflow catalytic converter (there's no need to remove cats anymore) then you can get 25 - 50 more horsepower if you can do an intake upgrade and chip reprogramming at the same time.

Thanks. I'll add those to my projects for 2015 in this order - pipes, headers , intake upgrade, chip reprogramming.

I am already running a Magnaflow freeflow catalytic converter and performance muffler

CityNG:
I take my automotive hobby seriously

On a previous thread here - https://www.nairaland.com/1935779/lets-encourage-diy-operation-show - I was accused of "showing off" by certain sectors.

I do a bit more than oil changes and brake jobs

On this job I also upgraded to a ported and flowed cylinder head.

Good to know. I too take my cars seriously, but I haven't invested as much in tools.

From your experience is it true that the aftermarket headers such as Magnaflow are indeed less restrictive than OEM? Resulting in more power output as some claim?

CityNG:
Magnaflow is the default exhaust system for domestic (they do imports too) and Megans Racing is the one for imports - [url]http://www.meganracing.com [/url]. These are my opinions though.

If you have a smartphone then I recommend some power/speed/torque measuring apps.

I removed the exhaust system in my MR2 and installed a full aftermarket system. It like the car up.

You went all the way - including headers, i think I should try that too.

Please go-ahead and recommend, but i have a gut feeling that the power has indeed increased, I just don't have numbers to back it up

CityNG:
Magnaflow Exhaust System

http://www.magnaflow.com

Absolutely right - you can change both the catalyst and the muffler ( but I think the roar you are talking about comes from the aftermarket muffler not the catalyst).

I don't know if they are right on both counts, but they say that their muffler increases both the power and the sound. I haven't measured the power on my ride, but my ride stopped being quiet ever since I installed their muffler ( I mean when I stomp on the gas you know something is going on)

You do not absolutely need to delete your catalyst to create the roar - I have a brand new catalyst installed but I also have a performance muffler from Magnaflow and the sound at idle is a little bit louder than stock, and during heavy acceleration is like the roar you are thinking of