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Aboru aboye


Wiwa ni won ma nwa Babalawo kiri
Babalawo ki wa eniyan kan kiri

I think Pastor has asked questions relating to my concerns.

one of the issues is why asking his mom for drinks if not his wedding

At last! And when are we going to be raptured?

tariq azeez was a christian i think he was the deputy prime minister. Im not 100% sure if he is the general being alluded by oladegbu

Maz my man you are one of the few people that make me visit nairaland every second,
Maz you no well ooooooo jocularly though

you this man you don come again. Why should I take you serious, has any body gone blind in the other challenge you threw up

wait make Mazaje,bawomolo, manmus Self-Service.wack, chrisbenogor catch you , you go hear wen, 

manmustwack abeg no ban me o

eloii:
She no fine again and she don slim.

before nko who say she fine, na lie she no fine at all at all at all

In Ifa Ogunda-Wori says:

Ogunda lawo Alagba
Iwori lawo Alupese
Ogun ta l'agba lu'pese si
Ogun ti kuro logun an y'oja
Ogun ti di ogun Oba
Adifa fun Omokunrin dudu orita
Eyi ti an peni Esu odara
E ba ya duro eki Esu
Eni to  ba ki Esu
Esu ni tun ti oluware se
Eba duro eki Esu


Ela Boru Ela Boye Ela Bosise

Ifa of the Year for all Ifa/Orisa practitioners all over the world revealed at Oke Itase, Ile-Ife on the 5th of June, 2010.

Ifa says that it foresees ayewo of arun (Affliction). For the first time in so many years, Ifa of the year fails to foresee ire. The significance of this is that extra caution needs to be taken in handling our day to day affairs this year. Ifa however recommends for every devotee to propitiate his/her Ori with one guinea fowl and palm oil. Instead of using water, palm oil is to be used. Water is not to be used at all. There is also the need for every one of us to propitiate our ancestors as appropriate.
The Arun which Ifa refers to has a lot to do with man-woman relationship. The types of arun which Ifa is referring to include sexually transmitted diseases, emotional trauma resulting from disappointments, failure of relationships, deceit, infidelity and separations. There is also the need for men to take good care of their sexual potency in order not to record failure with their loved ones. The ebo for this is either a rooster or a matured he-goat.

Main messages:
1. Ifa says it foresees recognition, honour, victory and dignity for Ifa and Orisa devotees this year. Ifa says that our efforts in the communities, groups, environments, countries and even in the world at large shall not only be recognized, they shall also be rewarded. Ifa advises each and every one of us to offer ebo with two ducks, two pigeons and money. Each person also needs to feed his/her Orisa/Irunmole with plenty of black eyed peas. On this, Ifa says:
E je wele muke-muke-muke
E je wele
Dia fun Ose
Ti won o mu joye Oloba
Ebo ni won ni ko waa se
O gbebo, o rubo
A m’Ose j’Oloba lonii o
E je wele muke-muke-muke
E je wele
Translation:
E je wele muke-muke-muke
E je wele
Consume black eyed peas to your satisfaction
This was the Ifa message for Ose
The one that would be installed as the king of Oba town
He was advised to offer ebo
He complied
We have installed Ose as Oloba (king of Oba) today
E je wele muke-muke-muke
E je wele
Consume black eyed peas to your satisfaction

2. Ifa advises all devotees to offer ebo with four rats, four fish, two pigeons, two hens, two guinea fowls, two roosters and money. We also need to procure itoo melons to cook plenty of snails and shea butter for Obatala; use the same itoo melons to cook dried fish for Osun; use itoo melon to cook guinea fowl for Ifa; use itoo melon to cook rooster for Egungun; use itoo melon to cook beef for all the other Irunmole/Orisa. Ifa assures all Irunmole/Orisa devotees that if these can be done, there is no ire of life that any of the devotees will lack. On these, Ifa says:
Ose bara mu ta
Dia fun won ni Ibarapa
Omo afitoo bo ohun gbogbo nitori ire gbogbo
Ebo ni won ni ki won waa se
Won gbebo, won rubo
Ko pe, ko jinna
E wa ba ni ba jebutu ire gbogbo
Translation:
Ose bara mu ta (alias of an Awo)
He cast Ifa for the inhabitants of Ibarapa
Those who use itoo melon to propitiate all deities for the attainment of all ire of life
They were advised to offer ebo
They complied
Before long, not too far
Join us in the midst of all ire

3. Ifa says that all devotees shall succeed together with their friends and loved ones this year. Ifa says that the degree of success will depend entirely on their level of devotion to the cause of the Irunmole/Orisa. It goes without saying therefore that Ifa expects each and every one of us to work harder than ever before in order to improve our ratings in the sight of the divinities. Ifa advises each individual to look for his/her best friend in order to feed their Ori together. Ifa does not allow an individual to feed his/her Ori alone. Propitiation materials: one guinea fowl for each person, palm oil, kolanuts, bitterkola, gin excluding water. On this, Ifa says:
Ose bula lago
Dia fu Ina
Tii s’akogun Olodumare
Ebo ni won ni ko se
O gbebo, o rubo
Bi ipori ina ba gbepo je
Iwa a re a si goke
Translation:
Ose bula lago
He cast Ifa for Ina, fire
The head warrior of Olodumare
He was advised to offer ebo
He complied
If palm oil is added to fire
His destiny will rise up more prominently
4. Ifa says that all the weak, defenseless and helpless people shall be given the protection of Olodumare this year. Ifa warns all oppressors to desist from their nefarious acts in order not to incur the wrath of Olodumare. Ifa advises all oppressed to offer ebo with either one rooster or one he-goat and money. Each person also needs to offer ebo with two round wooden basins of about 40cm in diameter each. On this, Ifa says:
Ose babaaba
Obara babaaba
Okunrin babaaba leyin efon
A ri baba a se bi Eegun ni
Dia fun Alabahun Ajapa
Omo arinlosin, omo agbenu opon yan
Ebo ni won ni ko se
Esu lo so Alabahun di apata
Esu lo so Alabahun di oko
Translation:
Ose babaaba, the sturdy Ose
And equally powerful Obara
A strong and powerful in hot pursuit behind a buffalo
We saw an old man and mistook him for an Egungun, the ancestor
Ifa cast for Alabahun Ajapa, the tortoise
He who walks majestically and resides inside covered basis
He was advised to offer ebo
He complied
It is Esu Odara who turned Alabahun Ajapa into a solid rock
It is also Esu Odara who turned Alabahun into granite
The story: Hitherto Alabahun Ajapa, the tortoise and all his children were being picked for consumption by all the birds. There was nothing that Alabahun Ajapa could do to protect himself and his family against the activities of the bird. Tired of this type of living, Alabahun went to a Babalawo for Ifa consultation in the home of the Awo mentioned above. He was advised to offer ebo as stated above together with all the members of his family. He complied. After this, the officiating Awo placed Alabahun Ajapa in between the two wooden basins, his limbs, head and anus were given space to come out and go inside the basins. Esu Odara glued the rest together. From that day henceforth, Alabahun ajapa was given protection against all the birds. Any bird that attempted to eat Alabahun Ajapa will have its beak broken to pieces.

5. Ifa says that those in helpless positions especially financial helplessness shall be raised up and be removed from their position of helplessness and be financially empowered. Ifa says that many devotees who find themselves in position of want shall have cause to be grateful to Olodumare because they will be moved to the position of abundance this year. Ifa advises each of such people to offer ebo with two pigeons, honey and money. On this, Ifa says:
Ose nii segi ninu igbo
Olobara ni nhokun lodan
Dia fun Moja
Tii seru Alake
Ebo ni won ni ko waa se
Ifa ma fi mi seru enikan
Eeyan to lowo kii seru enikookan
Translation:
Ose is he who cuts wood in the forest
Olobara is he who twist the rope in the savanna
Ifa’s message for Moja
Who was enslaved by Alake
He was advised to offer ebo
He complied
Ifa, please don’t make me a slave of anyone
Whoever is financially stable cannot be enslaved by anybody

6. Ifa says that all devotees especially leaders among them need to offer ebo against enemies and uprisings. Ifa says that this person needs to offer ebo with one matured he-goat and money. At the same time Ifa urges these leaders to propitiate their ancestors the Oro style with one matured ram. Ifa explains that the type of crises of conspiracy, opposition and uprising being faced by these devotees had earlier been faced by their ancestors until they died. These ancestors will now give them all the necessary support in order to give a resounding victory. On this, Ifa says:
Igbo nla mumo ni mu’ri
Okunkun mu ni morun eni
Dia fun Omumuyeye
Ti nbe nirangun ota
Ebo ni won ni ko se
Omumuyeye iyee
Baba wa rorun koi bo
Translation:
A thick forest consumes a child completely
And the darkness also consumes one totally
Ifa’s message for Omumuyeye
When in the midst of enemies
He was advised to offer ebo
He complied
Omumuyeye iyee!
Our father has gone to heaven and yet to return

7. Ifa says that devotees shall sparkle this year. They will hold vantage positions that will make them the envy of others. Ifa urges all devotees to be pure in their thoughts, speeches and actions. Ifa says that the purer they are, the more recognition they will get. Ifa however warns that they need to be careful with the negative designs of envious and jealous people. There is the need to offer ebo in order to prevent their white garment being soiled by those who are jealous of their achievements in life. Ifa advises each person to offer ebo with three roosters, three hens, three bar soaps and money. On this, Ifa says:
Ose bara
Awo Aso funfun lo dia fun Aso funfun
To nlo sode eye
Eyi ti yoo ba won keye bo wa ‘nu ile
E waa se tan
Ni won ni o dori aso funfun
Gbogbo isowo Ope
Eni gbebo nibe ko sebo
Gbogbo isowo Ope
Translation:
Ose bara, the Awo of Aso funfun, white garment
Cast Ifa for Aso funfun, white garment
When going on an outing of prestige and homour
And who will return with honour and prestige to his home
After this was done
They now vowed to go after the the white garment
All Ifa devotees
Let those advised to offer ebo comply accordingly

8. Ifa promises that two great ire shall be awaiting all Ifa devotees this year. Ifa however warns these devotees against being avaricious in order not to miss this ire. Ifa also warns against indecision at the right time. Ifa says that avarice and indecision can make devotees to lose their opportunities. Ifa advises each devotee o offer ebo with two roosters and money. There is also the need to feed Esu Odara with one rooster. On this, Ifa says:
Gbedo gbedo kan o gbe koto
Dia fun Ose
Tii somo won lode Ilogbo
Aroleke kan o ro baba
Dia fun Obara
Tii somo won lode Ilogbo
Esinsin nii ji nii fowo rawo ibeje-ibeje
Dia fun Alabahun Ajapa
Tii sore Obara
Ebo ni won o waa se
Ose p’erin si Ilogbo
Olobara p’agbo ni Ilogbo
Nje ona s’alabahun deji
Ewo ni n ba lo
Translation:
No mortar carver can carve a calabash pot
Ifa’s message for Ose
Their offspring in Ilogbo Land
No bead maker can fashion a guinea corn
Ifa’s  message for Obara
Their offspring in Ilogbo land
The housefly is it that wakes up and rubs its hand gingerly together
Ifa’s message for Alabahun Ajapa, the tortoise
Who was the friend of Obara
He was advised to offer ebo
Ose killed an elephant in the forest in Ilogbo
And Olobara killed a big ram in Ilogbo
Indecision turned the road into two for Alabahun
Which way would I take out of the two

9. Ifa warns all devotees all against infidelity and extra-marital affairs. Ifa warns that this may lead to embarrassments, disaster and even untimely deaths. Loyalty to ones loved ones must be taken seriously this year and all times. Ifa advises each devotee to offer ebo with one mature bearded he-goat. On this, Ifa says:
Sa’yi rodorodo fe
Sa’yi rodorodo fe
Dia fun Esinsin
Ti n sale osan
Ebo ni won ni ko waa se
Iworo sope
Eni gbebo nibe ko sebo
Translation:
Make love to the beautiful dark skin ones
And make love to the pretty fair skinned ones
Ifa’s message to Esinsin, the housefly
When going to be the secret lover of a star mango
He was advised to offer ebo
All devotees of Ifa!
Whoever is advised to offer ebo should comply

10. Ifa says that there are some Irunmole/Orisa devotees who had benefited greatly from Ifa/Orisa. Unfortunately however, they are the same people complaining more than anyone else that Ifa had not favoured them the way they would have expected. Ifa says that this year, many of them will abandon Ifa/Orisa in order to go and embrace other faith.  Ifa says that nobody needs to persuade these people against taking such decision. Ifa says that all the ire that they want in life is in the hands of Ifa/Orisa. Abandoning Ifa/Orisa means moving away from all their ire in life. Ifa advises whoever is contemplating such to offer ebo with three pigeons, three hens, three roosters, and money. They also need to feed Ifa with one matured pig. On this, Ifa says:
Elegbo ni o sanwo omi
Agbalagba ni o di’yo eepe
Agba to diyo eepe ni yoo gbowo okuta
Dia fun won niluu Ede
Nibi won lawon o nii sin Ikin mo
Ebo ni won ni o waa se
Eyin ara ilu ede ti e leyin o sin ‘kin mo
Abuku araa yin lo wa
Translation:
Mashed corn seller does not dip her hand inside water
An elder does not sell sand
An elder who sells sand as salt will be paid with stone
Ifa’s message for the inhabitants of Ede land
Where they had decided not to worship Ifa anymore
They were advised to offer ebo
They refused
And everything went wrong for them
You, inhabitants of Ede land who declared that you will no longer
serve Ifa
The disgrace and embarrassment are all yours

AFFILIATED IRUNMOLE/ORISA
1. Ifa for support
2. Ori for elevation and support
3. Esu Odara for protection
4. All other known Irunmole/Orisa
5. Egungun for ancestral support
6. Oro for ancestral support
TABOOS OF OSE OBARA FOR THE YEAR
1. Must not be avaricious - to avoid unconsummated fortune
2. Must not practise infidelity or extra marital affair – to avoid disaster or untimely death
3. Must not be too loose with one’s tongue – to avoid financial problem and business failure
4. Must not consume roasted corn – to avoid unconsummated fortune
5. Must not abandon Ifa/Orisa for any other religion – to avoid disgrace and embarrassment
6. Must not cheat or enslave others – to avoid incurring the wrath of the divinities

Aboru Aboye.
Solagbade Popoola
Chairman, Ethics and Scripture Committee

OSE OBARA the Odu of the year 2010 revealed at Oke-Itase Ile Ife 5th June 2010

@ Mazaje
If blindness does not work, ask yahweh to make you lame, dumb and deaf that should do the trick abi, 

A

mazaje:
The answer is NO. . .Allah is not the same deity as Yahweh which is also different From the God of the new testement because even Christians worship two different deities. The OT deity and the NT deity.  Lots of differences between the two.

Are you not supposed to have gone blind, 
or are you dictating to someone to type for you, 

manmustwac:
@viaro
how did you know about Huxley trying to convert Christians to athiests when you've only been a member of nairaland since October 2009? I guess you know because of your encounters with your former i d Pilgrim1

my thoughts exactly, trust pilgrim viaro, she will write a long exposition to wriggle her way out as usual, 

Humility is the art of displaying a modest view of oneself as against being arrogant
or having a bloated conception of oneself while at the same time looking down on others.

In Iworo-Wowo (Iwori-Ose), Ifa warns against being arrogant:

Asilu mo piki, ilekun ase
Adifa fun ajiwekun-wesa
Ti won ni omi ti yoo gbe lo ko ni kun aha
Ebo won ni ko wa se
O pe awo ni eke
O pe Esu odara ni ole
Ko pe o ke jinna
Eyin o ri Ifa awo ti nse bi ala more

A large door is that which when opened, make a big reverberating noise
This was the decalaration of Ifa to he who swims through oceans and lagoons early each day
they told him that the water which would make him drown would not be up to a cupful
he tagged the Awo as cheats
and called Esu odara a thief
Before long, not too far
behold Ifa as it has come to pass like a dream


The person reffered to here was so good in swimming that he thought that no water could harm him.
When he was advised to offer sacrifice against being drowned in the water, which would be up to a cupful, he thought it impossible.
Relying on his ability, he abused the Awo and Esu Odara and left. A few moments later, he took a small calabash to drink water,
the water ran into his windpipe and he died of asphyxation. A few seconds to his death, he remembered the advice of the Awo but alas it was too late,

Ela boru Ela boye Ela bosise

mazaje:
Here is what I got from another site about the claims of the Noah's flood that was "found" in Turkey. . . .

Even Answers in genesis(AiG) has expressed concerns that creationist scientists are not being invited to see the evidence. No peer review allowed smacks of fraud. . . . . .

I cannot believe this Mazaje are you not supposed to have gone blind by now and you are still typing on nairaland are you using braille to type and read? ,    ;

I still dey here o my brother. How is your end?
I just dont comment or reply to threads as before but I do amuse myself by reading some outrageous and preposterous post from some people,
but this one by alexleo or whatever his name is, just a stinker.

alexleo:
For long we have witnessed a long argument between those of us who are serving God and those who claim that there is NO God. Now lets simplify this matter now and settle it once and for all. I hereby challenge all those atheists and satanist who say that there is no God to do just this one thing if they are 100 percent sure of their stand.
If you are sure that your stand is right then say this- GOD IF YOU EXIST AS THE CHRISTIANS WANT US TO BELIEVE , THEN LET ME BE BLIND FOR THREE CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM NOW. Make sure you write it here so that all of us can see that you actually said it.

I pray God to respond to you immediately so that you may know that he truly exist. That you may know that the earth is the Lords' and its fulness thereof. That you may know that he reigns all over the earth and that he so love the world that he gave his only beggotten son that whosoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life and that you will turn to him and worship and serve him in spirit and in truth. That you may also spread the testimony of his supreme existance here and yonder In Jesus name I pray. AMEN. He is the God of the whole universe, without him was not anything made that was made. He is our creator. He is my life and my salvation. I love God. May God give you this experience that you may serve him and make heaven at last, in Jesus name I pray.

pls note, this is not a joke. lets settle this matter once and for all. All the glory goes to no other person than the Holy Trinity now and forever more. AMEN.
The floor is now open for those of you who are sure in their believe that God does not exist to respond accordingly. Failure to do so will only mean that you truly know that God exists but you dont want to acknowledge it. DECEIVING YOUR OWN SELVES.

You want the replay of the "Road to Damascus experience" abi, dey there , 

that was for masa masa

so dem don unban you, good,

Pastor AIO where are you?

I was astounded with the statement made by onikati kati Bello that Dora was cooking for madam, a very silly statement, can you imagine the sort of people we have as senators. Instead of asking Dora intellectual questions, mallam "scanty brain Bello" was spewing puerile silly remarks to rile Dora. Anyhow she firmly defended herself though.

Erelu_Y:
It's a shame religions which historically were foreign to Nigeria (e.g. Islam and Christianity) have monumentally swept away the indigenous religious knowledge which we hold in our own part of the world. Can we use this thread to make contacts so as to share our knowledge of indigenous traditional religions and medicine. For example, if someone is giving you hell of time, you can take them out of the equation. Read my first post on this NL. What I finally did was to take 7 days off work. During the period, I completed an African Traditional Religious ritual and bounded their ring leader to voluntarily resign from work. By the time I resumed work, the guy had already left. You see Yoruba says, SHONSHO MEJI KII PADE.

The thing is, you must have one African Traditional Religious ritual knowledge which you're able and willing to share in return for the one or two which I'm able and willing to share with you. Plus, it must be effectual. In this way, you increase my knowledge in the same manner that I increase yours.

Thanks,


ERELU_Y

Yeye mi omo oku aye omo orolojo omo Ajibola owo Afejigbara ileke
aji majeran to legun
Igbin ni Abeni fi nbori e ni kutukutu

Mo ki yin eku abo sori eto yi

noetic16:
fair enough.

This is what I would tell moses. . .I would tell him that the ultimate decision of what to do to these people lies with him. and that moses has 2 options . . . .to either take them as slaves . . . or to kill them.
by taking them as slaves we become prosperous. . .but they would grow up in the future to revenge the death of the folks. . . . .why empower your enemies?
by killing them. . . we kill harmless children but avert a future crises. mind u this was a war scenario.

my point is that. . .the case of mose killing is not balck and white as u would like to paint it.

Well done noetic16
This is fantastic absolute classic

Aboru aboye

IWORI MEJI Says:

Kekenke lawo kekenke
Gegenge lawo gegenge
Adifa fun Orimonike
Omo Atorun gbegbe Aje
Keke wale aye
Ifa ma ke'mi niso
Ori ma ke'mi niso
Olodumare ma ke'mi niso
Gege la nke eyin adie


Kekenke(to be favoured) is the Awo of Kekenke
Gegenge(to be pampered) is the Awo of gegenge
They were the ones who cast Ifa for Orimonike
Who had the support of Ori from heaven
Ifa, please continue to favour me
Ori, please continue to favour me
Olodumare, please continu to favour me
Tenderly and with care do we gather the eggs laid by fowls,


Favours shall be ours Asee Edumare

Ela boru Ela boye Ela bosise
Ogbo Ato Asure Ela Iworiwfun

Aboru aboye
Ela ro wa Ela ro wa Ela ro wa
Orunmila ro wa Bara mi
Agbonmiregun bara elesin oyan
Ojo lu gbedu orun giri

OTURUPON-OWONRIN says:

Ifa ni ti a ba ji
Ogbon ni ki a ma ko ara wa
Ka ma ji ni kutukutu
Ka pile were
Ohun ti a ba ro
Ti ko ba gun
Ikin eni laa kee sii,


Ifa says whenever we wake up
It is wisdom we should be teaching each other
We should not wake up up at dawn
and lay the foudation of foolishness
whatever we deliberate upon
which can not be resolved
There is the need to consult Ikin,

Ela boru Ela boye Ela bosise,

This is disturbing and mind boggling


Punch on the Web Monday, February 8, 2010

Close shave with death in the hands of a son (CAUTION: SOME MAY FIND PICTURE DISTURBING)

Emmanuel Onyeche

Abigail Nwajei whose son, Nnamdi, tried to murder two days to 2010 on an allegation that a church revealed that she was behind his misfortune, has left hospital. Emmanuel Onyeche writes her near tragic story.


Although Mrs. Abigail Nwajei, whose son, Nnamdi,attempted to murder by slicing off her throat two days to 2010, has left hospital, the scars of that near tragic experience may never leave her.

At 50, four of her front teeth are gone - knocked off with her son's hammer - and the scars of the attack, though healed, run rings round her neck.

"I took five pints of blood to stay alive", she told our correspondent at her Ajangbadi resident in Lagos last Tuesday, a claim confirmed by a doctor at Goodness Hospital in the same suburb. The doctor simply gave his name as Durotimi. "We had to call in a dentist to fix the aspect concerning her teeth", Durotimi added.

Nnamdi, 22, a 2006/2007 Accountancy graduate of Ladoke Akintola University of Technology, Ogbomoso, Oyo State, had allegedly attempted to murder his mother with a hammer and a knife on December 30 last year, accusing her of being behind the misfortunes of her children.

After policemen attached to the Ilemba Hausa Division of the Lagos State Command had arrested him, he said while being paraded on January 5 this year that he approached his mother for, "a mother to son talk" following numerous revelations in a branch of Mountain of Fire and Miracle church, Lagos, which he did not give its location. He said that the church revealed that his mother was responsible for his misfortune.

"I wanted to talk to her to let her see reason why she should release us, her children, from bondage, especially as we enter the new year. But she started shouting. I picked up a knife to scare her and she took a hammer. I snatched it from her and used it on her. I did not plan to kill her. Things happened so fast. I regret my action and I blame myself for taking the church revelations seriously," he said.

But Nwajei said, "The incident happened at 8.30pm. He came in hailing me 'Malee' (a corruption of 'mother' used mostly by people from the Niger Delta region of the country to hail their mothers). He was demanding food and searching every where. There was no power supply and he went and put on the generator. It was at the same time that I was also ready to eat so I brought out food for the two of us.

"He did not touch the food but suddenly pounced on me and started attacking me with the knife. He wanted to stab me with it but I prevented that with my hand. I was shouting for help and mentioning his name but I guess people did not hear me because of the noisy generator. He was much stronger and when he had overpowered me, he started slicing my throat with the knife. He also brought out a hammer from his pocket and hit me on the head several times with it. That was all I could remember until I found myself in the hospital," she said.

Nwajei's saviour was Festus, a motorcycle rider, who she graciously accommodated in a room in her house.

Festus said, "I came around but saw that the gate was locked from inside. I heard shouts but I thought it was a church pastor praying for Mama. I peeped through a hole and saw a figure moving. From the hand that I saw, I knew it was a young man. I concluded it was a thief and started shouting and neighbours were attracted".

By the time they got to Nwajei, Nnamdi had scaled the fence and bolted. She was found in the pool of her blood and passed out after she had managed to reveal that it was her son that had attacked her. Festus and her neighbours rushed her to Goodness Hospital where she went through tremendous pain and trauma trying to hang on to life.

Ironically however, Nwajei was still seemed concerned about Nnamdi as she expressed the hope that he would be freed soon several times during her short interview with our correspondent.

The authorities of MFM, when contacted, said that the man was not a member of the church since he could not mention the branch that gave him the revelation. They added that the church never asked any of its member to kill.

But Nnamdi's motive, as he confessed to the police, brings to the fore the growing issue of religious incitement which we seem to be ignoring currently. Some messages preached in churches nowadays are nothing short of outright incitements. The preachers seem to ignore that some of the listeners are unable to distinguish between things of the spirit from those of the physical.

At a new generation pentecostal church in Lagos recently, the congregation were asked to pray facing the direction their enemy resided. Later, they were urged to fight their enemies. A man got home and descended on his wife saying it was her he saw in his vision while he was praying against his enemy.

In another pentecostal church in Lagos that has an outspoken pastor, the congregation were once told to come to church on a certain Sunday bringing logs of wood. Nearly 95 per cent of the congregation did. Apparently, however, the pastor was just performing an experiment with them. On the Sunday in question, he asked all those who had brought their logs of wood to stand up. When they did, the pastor was shocked. He shook his head at their naivety and asked them to dispense with the wood.

If religion is indeed the opium of the masses, it is indeed time we exercise caution.

http://odili.net/news/source/2010/feb/8/831.html

Tudór:
So God caused the credit crunch? Here I was thinking greedy American bankers were to blame. . .

Thanks for clearing up issues.

You this man woman no dey tire,

imhotep:
REPORTER (to little girl) : “Who are pagans?”

LITTLE GIRL: “Pagans are people who do not fight about religion"

Brilliant

I am a Paganus

Just a brief digression from the topic how old was Adam when god created him? was he created as a baby, youth or as a fully grown man

Tudór:
Guys could you please post links to these books. . . . I tried recommending some to of my friends months ago and they're yet to find it in nigeria.

Ask them to google Robert G Ingersoll. There is plethora of his writings online.