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CREATION AS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE, JUST LOADS OF HORSESHIT AND CRAP,

NOT ONLY THE CREATION STORY, slavery story, war story, circumcisions story, killing all children and women and sparing the virgins to be ravished and devoured by sex-starved yahweh armies of israelites, 

i cannot imagine or believe that an omniscient, omnipotent or a benevolent god [yahweh/jehovah] could have been responsible for all those atrocities and absurdities stories in the bible, SO MUCH FOR INSPIRATION OF GOD

the bible is just one of the myths and  fairy tale books that a sane and logical person should not take serious

how can a sane god [yawheh/jehovah] justify slavery and raping of virgins,

creation story in the  bible was borrowed, plagiarised, stolen from ancient sumerian and mesopotamia traditions and legends

Backslider:
@Akintos

I perceive that you are from the sect of the christ embassy.

Well the Dove is a symbol and nothing else.

Just as the Body that housed Jesus was a symbol that He was Indeed human being so is the Dove a symbol that the Most High Spirit of the Lord is a spirit being.

You must know that characteristic of the Dove.

Now watch carefully and you can search for yourself.

In Genesis we see that The spirit of God moved on the face of the waters now in when the flood had stopped The dove was sent by Noah to MOVE arround to see if the water had subsided.

Now do you think God did not have eyes to see that the water had subsided or not? The Dove is a symbol or an embodiment of the character of the Person of the Holy Ghost to man.

Dove when provoked will depart from it owner.

The holy Ghost is one that will flee from a sinning Christian. There is no amount of begging Unless you come through the son all over again. Then will the Holy Ghost will return.

@Idinrete

Satan copies the Original and he brings the Theory of the witch craft bird

original of what?

Satan brings the theory of the witch craft bird,   

please humor me further

we are all following AWON IYAMI ABIDE GBAGO GBAGO, the AIRFORCE MOTHERS, AJAPA JORI AJEDO JOKAN AJEFUN JORONRO, 

welcome to the forum 

buscog:
its with due repect i acknowledge all you guys have said but remember that it is through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit that is revelational knowledge that the bible was written and also that some things are not to be known by any man i.e. the things of God so i endulge you guys to let sleeping dogs lie and forget abbout any contradictions if at all there is any. thank you.[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

why should we let sleeping dog lie, when it is being claimed that the bible is the inerrant and inspired word of god, 

no no no we should not forget about any contradictions, if the bible contains error it should be pointed out, the word of god should be perfect. abi!

gbeborun gbefila   

dot2002:
fasting, pretending to be humble, praying for massive congregation instead of organizing business empowerment seminars to make them viable member of the society, praying for an hungry man instead of feeding him, praying for a widow instead of clothing her and sending her children to school, and so on. Religious Nigerians thinks God is dumb, they try to pull wool on God eye by night vigils every last Saturday of the month,

you this girl take time o 

can we have some heavenly or intergalactical wisdom ma 

what is baba ijebu?


you are hilarious 

kattrina:
@Uchetobi, Idinrete and Kobojunkie

Jehovah is not a god of war but a god of justice; it is one of his cardinal qualities. If you read and UNDERSTOOD the Bible you would realize this.

Matt 26:52
Isaiah 2:2-4
2 Corinthians 10:3,4
Luke 6:27,28

Jehovah did direct ancient Israel to engage in war to take possession of the land that He designated as their inheritance adn to execute peopl whoe depraved practices and defiance of Him caused Jehovah to view them as being no longer fit to live. But Jehovah would show mercy to those who exercised faith in him. The Law covenant Jehovah set forth stated rules for warfare that He would approve of and the manner in which this warfare was to be carried out unlike wars today which are considered carnal warfare. All of that was under the Mosaic Law, which does not apply to us today, so there are different principles for us to follow in our society today. Because Jesus made a new covenant so then the Mosaic Law became null and void.

jehovah not a god of war but justice you must be joking, a god of justice directing his chosen people to go and steal and capture the land that does not belong to them, executing people with depraved practices and in defiance of him because he viewed them as no longer fit to live,  and you want me to believe in this utter and ridiculous madness as justice, 
what a tyrant god!

moses law is null and void that means jehovah or yahweh did not have a clue of what is was doing back then, i thought it is claimed that he/she/it is an immutable god,

so you have accepted that the old testament is no more the inspired word of god ,

now you are accepting reason and logic over the blind faith and absurdities of that old testament, ditto new testament.

so you dont want to have anything to do with all these atrocities and delusions:
the creation fable in genesis, serpent talking in hebrew to eve, the preposterous noah's ark and the flood stories, the institution of slavery by yahweh, the absurd tower of babel stories, puerile idea of human and animal sacrifices, dashing little babies against rocks and all other repulsive and abominable acts sanctioned by that delusional and psychotic deity called yahweh/jehovah,
[that: the ten commandements do not apply to you, fair enough because you are not jewish anyway, why should you follow it?]

henceforth, you need to expunge that old testament from your part of the bible as it no longer applies to you, 

i put it to you jesus's interpretation is different from your line of reasoning, jesus is not abrogating the law his dad gave to moses, but to fulfil it.
 

kobo

i was about to type the reply, i concur with you 

that old testament god, TO ME, is a belligerent, blood thirsty tyrant who supports war, infanticide, slavery, sharing of virgins,   

oga lawyer abeg o take it easy o

Dorcasde:
[b]This is a very sensitive issue!

Poster, you’re going too far by talking about our fore fathers. In recent time, I have met people who have never heard of Christianity, even Islam. Does it mean they will go to hell as well? The one and only God is not an arbitrary God, HE is perfect, and so His laws are perfect. The way to paradise is in the heart of every man. Put differently, every human being knows what is right from what is wrong; we all know what is SINFUL from what is not.

The cannel of the message of Jesus Christ is in 2 folds …………………1) Love your God and 2) Love your neighbor as yourself. Basically, every other religion on earth teaches these. You need not be a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist …you name it…, for you to know how to Love God by fulfilling HIS WILL which is basically …, living aright in your thoughts, words and actions. And then how to love ones neighbor as oneself is in everyman’s heart. These key values are what we lack, we know them but we don’t pay much attention to them…, perhaps because of their logic and simplicity. These days, an average human being believes that anything that is of God should be complex, illogical and beyond man’s comprehension. That is exactly why we think that forgiveness is all about ‘praying for forgiveness’. It is evident in the Bible that we shall sow what we reap and it is implied that the only condition for forgiveness is CHANGE.

As I have seen, those who plough iniquity, and sow trouble, reap the same. (Job4:.
For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit. (Luke 6:43).
Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. (Galatians 6:7).
We’re too hyper religious instead of being spiritual. We should learn to stand aright by living an exemplary life pleasing unto God.

God is no respecter of any man, nation or religion. But he who does HIS WILL, will surely find his path to paradise.

Acts: 10 34-35…, it reads… "Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, but in every nation any one who fears Him and does what is right is acceptable to Him."

Mathew 7:21 says ‘Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven’.[/b]

can you defend all these attributes you have stated above about the yahweh/jehovah god in the old testament?

Dios and Olabowale, it seems you guys are speaking in tongues i cannot understand you                         
reske yapapapapapapapapapap   

Absolutely, going by the precedents set in the bible by moses, abraham, joshua, david, saul and all the biblical military generals at the order of their military commander yahweh/jehovah 

jesus even asked his disciples to buy swords,  maybe he needed the sword to shave the disciples beards, but alas he did not come for peace but for war  ,

why not?

dot2002:
People that have give a very opposing view but stayed on the topic i thank all of you, but guys that even dare to curse me or try to make me feel uncomfortable you can kizz my azz because I'm an more than an angel in God hierarchical plan so how can a mere mortal like you try to make me feel bad about a thoroughly refreshing view. if what you want is a simple topic with a yes or no answer i can come up with a million but where is the originality in that, can such a question make you use a little bit of that Grey matter smarter than any computer??

At the end of the day i just want people to see the light, it a challenge to God if he is the maker of heaven and earth, if he know he can raise mountains to shift and then land in the oceans He should make wrong right before i finally stop believing, whether we like it or not we will all die so I'm not afraid of death, just as is has been written so i don't have any fear, some of us here will have stroke, diabetes, heart attack, high blood pressure and so on when we start nearing seventy, this is not controlled by God contrary to what a lot of fools here writes but by the accumulated unrepairable mutation in our genetic construct, what you eat, the exercises you do and your genetics predisposition to accumulate fat like my mum azz.

like IDINRETE wrote, what sin so great did those destroyed committed, some story in the bible are eerie, they are so sad that you just know its not right, am i just to accept this stories written and re-written by men, supposedly under the influence of Holy spirit hook, line ,and sinker?

Some of the writers were influenced by there personal experience and self beliefs for example Paul the Saint one of the early founders prefer that we all stay celibate for life and he drink bitters sometimes to keep in check his aches. the norms and culture of the time. And why should i leave in the perpetual fear that God will destroy me, i have not committed adultery, i help the faint hearted and sick, to be honest i don't want to be holy the pharisee and Sadducee's here can profess to be I'm not, holiness is of GOD and impossible from a man.

I have enjoyed all of the post but plz if you don't know what you are saying don't post or at least try to make it a joke. ta

dot2002 I salute you and doff my hat for you, so it is still possible to find someone like you in Nigeria who can think for herself and who has not been hoodwinked into the biblical dogmas and teachings.
PRAISE GOD ALLELUYAH 

denniz:
Wait!!! Who is Oludumare Don't call God's son "WHITE DUDE" Know what,God might be angry with you for condemning him now moreso {THE HOLY TRINITY} Those shungo etc are not serving God but satan. Try to respect God for who he is,YOUR CREATOR

Stop giving devil space to deceive you and make you to condemn God. Well,everything you do or say,GOD KNOWS IT!!!!

*****WATCH IT******

your analogy is feeble, i can get any substance out of it
so jesus is not god again BUT you guys usually claim that he is god,
what is with the holy trinity?, go and do a research on Arius and Athanasius your early christian fathers

in your so called bible the atrocities committed by your biblical god will make the satan to run away in disgust  

who says! you should have been there on the day of pentecost can you imagine a jewish speaking yoruba or english or ethiopian or arabic then, the people were astonished that they heard the apostles speaking in the people's own native dialects, 

what you have then and now was and is gibberish and nonsensical invocations, 

please decode this, raka mmmaaaaammmmaaa sleboobobobo rababababababaabababababab  hilaspokare maka shaka rabababaababab boboboboboboboobobo 

give me  Russian language any time any day  please

the names are all gimmick intended to deceive the gullible ones   

aristole:
THIS ARGUEMENT FEATURED DURING A SUNDAY SCHOOL IN A CHURCH WHEN THE TEACHER SAID JESUS SAID NOBODY WILL ENTER THE KINGDOM OF GOD BUT THROUGH HIM.ONE OLD MAN STOOD ANGRILY AND ASKED HIM(THE TEACHER) IF HIS FORE FATHER(THE TEACHER) KNEW CHRIST B4 THEY DIED?AND THAT DOES IT MEAN THAT AN HERBALIST WHO DID NOT EVIL RECORD BUT FEARED GOD WILL GO HELL ALSO ?PLEASE CONTIBUTE YOUR OWN IDEA.

you need to free your mind from that crap and delusion of a teaching :jesus said this jesus said that  stuff

jesus said a lot of delusional and psychotic stuffs 

babs787:
You dey go shrine very well ooooooo.

forgetting our religious differences men! nairalanders we are the best

shiro bobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo

ORO PESI JE

IM LOST FOR WORDS ABOUT THIS SUDANESE ISLAMIC FANATICS MADNESS

I CANNOT FATHOM THIS BABARITY IN THE NAME OF RELIGION

denniz:
@ idinrete, Why do you say so why you can condemning God,your creator He can destroy you now for that but he's all merciful but don't use that to play.

He protects,provide and sustain you. He gives you life. Please go now and plea for his forgiveness. He will show you mercy.

WAIT!!! y do u condemn him

Dear Denniz

I will respond fully to your concerns but not now, if you believe that god [i dont know which one you are alluding to--- is it yahweh elohim jehovah or whatever will destroy me, i will not be suprised. Im not going to be the first he will destroy just like he commanded the poor innocent amalakite children to be slaughtered,

in all honesty can you imagine a god ordering that the entire infants in a country should be destroyed, he/she/it should have been charged for infanticide and genocide, what was the offence of the amalekites just because they refused the wanderers to pass through their country  

yahweh,jehovah elohim even condones slavery, killed onan for refusing to pour his sperm into his brothers wife, so people can now be forced to sleep with their dead brother, even the Yorubas dont engage in that practice no more[ in the youruba culture i dont think it was compulsory then] BUT yahweh made it compulsory, 
and you are still giving credence to that god, the god that allowed male captives to be slaughtered and the virgins to be kept to be deflowered, 
, what utter madness, so much for a god

denniz:
**********PLEASE PEOPLE RESPECT GOD FOR WHO HE IS**********

if you are referring to Yahweh or Jehovah or Elohim he/she/it deserves no respect from me but condemnation

LEBRO SHKA MA RUGABA SKELLEBOOBO ANPAN ENDILIBO ILABA ILOBO MAN GARABVUSHA KATRA BA BU JAKARIMANDORI AMMAMMMA  MAAAA YHKESRISPA YAKBU KAQTIJA DOKE YAMNIBDLGUUBABBBA  REBOO
YEHEPPARIPA IMOLE 

i feel good

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i think she is shocked because it's a shocking thread.

Where is my friend Idinrete to contribute?

 

I was following the saga on BBC News by then I was very much assured that all hell would have broken loose about the whole incident in nairaland knowing my KIRIYO BROTHERS AND SISTERS  

to be candid the facts remains that the Teacher did not named the OMOLANGIDI mohammed. the poor innocent children named the OMOLANGIDI[s][/s] as mohammed, 

I am now the Judge in this case and my judgment is that those children should be given 40 lashes of cane or be imprisoned or their parents should be compelled to pay the fines, mrs teacher should be banned from teaching ever again in Sudan or any muslim country and should be deported to UK forthwith, I have spoken, 

abo mire o combatant

which of the gods? Olorun, Allah, Jesus Christ, Yahweh, Jehovah, El, Chi, Mawu, Bhuddah, et al.

thanks for the clarification, i concur, you are absolutely right.

dot2002:
African indigenous religion: why do we pretend they don't exist and not relevant? while we embraced other foreign religion particularly Muslim and Christian religion. other religion that tends to regional bloc like Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, Mormonism, Bahai, Scientology are widely practiced by millions too.

as other members have stated can you clarify yourself on the topic as it it different from the body.

how did the black magic work for you?

Backslider:
Idinrete

I am not here to win u but to make you think deeply.

You see all you have said on this thread about Jesus and the bible God has already forgiven you even before you committed the sin.

He has mercy for you free of Charge now. You need to run away from the coming wrath. You can see it. When you have common running and pain i your stomach you know it is near.

My brother you are a seed you will either die or live. If you choose to die you will be cut off from God for eternity. You need me to help you see what hell is all about. Imagine you sleep and wake in a dark room you say people should put on the lights It will be no joke your soul will be in perfect darkness. I used to wonder how hell will be hot and yet still will be dark. It will be a very dark fire. Your 5 senses will be working in hell. The punishment is great.
Some say God can't do that but I tell you he should do more than that because we have Jesus now to save us from Our sins and yet people are not repenting.

In hell people that stole and killed will be sorry but the evill they did will be played back to them a zillion times and they will regret and gnash their teeth. All you who read this please flee the great wrath of God. God will be merciless in his Judgement.

Some people think that the concept of hell is not real but please even in the Secular setup we see that Evil men are kept away from good citizens.

TO BE DEAD IN SPIRITUAL SENSE IS TO BE CUT OFF FROM A SOURCE. The source of a Christian is GOD THE CARRIER OF ZOE.

what is all this thrash about?

all your threats of hell is futile
Im way way beyond such idle threats and punishments. im not as gullible as you are
the bible god should first repent and forgive himself/herself itself [ i think he is masculine just like his son jesus or the third god] for all the atrocities committed by him and on his behalf. 

it is not going to be only me in hell, all your biblical heroes will be my hell-mates