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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Kills Christian Wife For Leaving Islam in Uganda by Ifeann(op): 10:46am On Jun 02, 2016

Amberon11:
This will never hit FP but if it was a pastor or Christian man who killed his wife, the reverse would be the case

it wont get to fp becos muslims have been known to post death threats to the mods and nairaland owner

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Kills Christian Wife For Leaving Islam in Uganda by Ifeann(op): 5:28am On Jun 02, 2016

Results of constant fear:

Vigilantism ultimately creates a society dominated by continual fear, one where no one dares to step out of line. Fear causes stagnation, passivity, acquiescence, and lack of initiative and creativity. Instability and dysfunction are characteristic of Islamic societies. Thomas Hobbes’ described anarchy, he described Islamic societies plagued by vigilantism: “men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.”

The result of Sharia vigilantism in a society lives is that everyone lives in fear and all become liars to survive. Consequently, society breaks down because everyone must suspect everyone else of treachery. Thomas Hobbes wrote that in a such a state of continual warfare in which every man is against every other man, life is nasty, mean, brutish and short.

The greatest problem with Islam is that Mohammed made every single Muslim a vigilante: every Muslim is a lethal weapon to be used against every other Muslim and against every Kafir. Freedom of expression and freedom of conscience are incompatible with Islam because jihad is unending until victory.

Vigilantism is forbidden in all legal systems, but not in Sharia law.

Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Kills Christian Wife For Leaving Islam in Uganda by Ifeann(op): 5:27am On Jun 02, 2016

read up to understand why this practice is acceptable in the mulsim world

Vigilante murder is normative Islam, rather than an aberration. Vigilante murder of apostates is authenticated by the fatwa department of Al Azhar University, Islam’s top Sharia authority.

In 1992, Islamist militants gunned down Egyptian secularist Farag Foda. Before his death, he had been declared an apostate and enemy of Islam. During the trial of the murderers, Al Azhar scholar Muhammad al-Ghazali testified that when the state fails to punish apostates, somebody else has to do it.

Islam’s source texts justify vigilante murder.

Bukhari (84:64-65) – “Allah’s Apostle: ‘During the last days there will appear some young foolish people who will say the best words but their faith will not go beyond their throats (i.e. they will have no faith) and will go out from (leave) their religion as an arrow goes out of the game. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for whoever kills them shall have reward on the Day of Resurrection.’”

Sharia law: The “Bill of Legal Punishments” says (p.12), “A person guilty of apostasy (man or woman) shall be put to death if repentance is not made within the period allowed which shall not exceed sixty days. Repentance of a person who commits apostasy more than twice shall not be accepted.”

No doctrine in Islam depends on a single Koranic verse, but on the Koran, hadiths, Sira and canonical rulings. What is ‘normative Islam’ is decided by the fatwa department at Al Azhar University, not by private opinion. In the 1992 murder of apostate Farag Foda, Al Azhar’s scholars argued that when the state fails to punish apostates, “somebody else has to do it.”

Islam’s vigilantism is the greatest contradiction of the Golden Rule that can be. Vigilantism deprives ‘others’ of the right to follow their consciences. Muslims have a duty to ‘command the right and forbid the wrong’ and they are entitled to change what is wrong ‘with their hands’…as vigilantes. Muslims do not need permission from anyone to enforce discriminatory Sharia by vigilantism, up to and including the murder of apostates and blasphemers. Indeed, Islamic vigilantes will be considered heroes of Islam for defending Islamic principles by making Sharia law superior to national, secular laws.

Christianity Etc › Muslim Kills Christian Wife For Leaving Islam in Uganda by Ifeann(op): 5:23am On Jun 02, 2016

Uganda: Muslim kills Christian wife for leaving Islam

NAIROBI, Kenya (Morning Star News) – A Muslim in eastern Uganda strangled his wife to death this month for leaving Islam, relatives and neighbors said.

Awali Kakaire, 34, early in the morning on May 8 killed Mariam Nakirya for embracing Christianity in Mbaale village, Imanyiro Sub-County, Mayuge District, the area residents told Morning Star News. She was 30.

Kakaire, who has fled the area, began to suspect his wife was a Christian a month prior, after the local imam questioned him as to why his wife and children had not been attending mosque prayers, nor his children attending the madrassa (Islamic school). Kakaire questioned his children about it, said one of his sons, whose name is undisclosed for security reasons.

“Our father questioned us why we have stopped attending the madrassa, but we told him that we were busy with school work as our mother had instructed us,” he told Morning Star News. “Our mother told our father that she has been busy instructing us on school homework. This made my father to cool down his tempers.”

As Kakaire frequently traveled to Malaba on business, sometimes for a month at a time, the rest of the family was often able to attend a nearby church on Sundays.

On May 8 Kakaire awoke at 6 a.m., and after his Islamic cleansing ritual woke his wife for her to join him in morning Islamic prayers, their son said.

“Our mother refused, and our father started strangling her as she cried for help,” he said.

Kakaire left the house after killing her, and then returned two hours later and forced his five children, ages 5 to 12, into a hole he had dug in a nearby garden, his son said.

“We resisted and began screaming, and neighbors arrived immediately, but he had already dumped us into the hole that he had dug,” he said. “Seeing the neighbors, he tried to flee but he was overtaken and then began to be questioned by those who surrounded him.”

Kakaire’s brother, Michael Kirunda, told Morning Star News he and others were awakened by loud screaming from the house.

“Neighbors rushed to their home and found the children dumped into a hole,” Kirunda said. “He wanted to escape, but he could not find a way, hence we started questioning him about the children. ‘My family has no respect for Islam,’ he said in a loud outburst. We then proceeded into the house and found his wife dead.”

Muslim and Christian relatives of the deceased, along with some Christian neighbors, sought to lynch Kakaire, but some Muslims showed support for him. Police arrived with tear gas, guns and batons and brought calm.

“They dispersed us, and we left,” Kirunda said. “That evening some of the Muslims hurriedly buried Mariam.”

Nakirya had come to Christ in August 2015 after a series of visits from a door-to-door evangelist from a nearby church.

“The absence of the husband doing business away from his home for a length of time gave me good accessibility to ministering the Good News to Nakirya’s family,” the evangelist, whose name is undisclosed, told Morning Star News.

Relatives of Nakirya tried to ambush Kakaire several times before he fled. The couple’s two oldest children, ages 12 and 11, are with their grandmother, and the youngest three are with Kirunda….

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/05/uganda-muslim-kills-christian-wife-for-leaving-islam

this is islam's "the tolerant and peaceful" religion

“They wish you would disbelieve as they disbelieved so you would be alike. So do not take from among them allies until they emigrate for the cause of Allah. But if they turn away, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them and take not from among them any ally or helper.” (Qur’an 4:89)

A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence.

This is still the position of all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence, both Sunni and Shi’ite. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”

Qaradawi also once famously said: “If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment, Islam wouldn’t exist today.”

Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 9:15pm On Jun 01, 2015

crusadistic:
you know nuftin.I know more about Islam and even your faith more than you'll ever know.

Oh really,

How did mohammed die.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 8:49pm On Jun 01, 2015

crusadistic:
who is this one addressing with princess,am I your fellow worker.

Calm down, take a deep breath, study Islam in 21st century English and renounce Islam.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For Creating Islam Section With Ridiculous Conditions by Ifeann(f): 8:47pm On Jun 01, 2015

Rilwayne001:
And do you ever agree with him? why?

Have you ever bring any truth in your life to this board than your usual recycle lies? and when the truth about your delusions is brought to your face, you run away like a thief

Christianity Etc › Re: Church Of England Is Satanic Wants To Call God A Woman by Ifeann(f): 8:38pm On Jun 01, 2015

Empiree:
Op, why does this shocked you?. Christians already have women's Bible. All the places where 'he' are used for Jesus are changed to 'she'. This Bible was produced in America. Women claim they have been cheated for far too long was the reason for production of such Bible. And someone like ifeann said "Women's Bible is also 'inspired' by God. Majority of christians will end up being atheists. Thats for sure.

Womens bible?? Blasphemous.. Heard of Kanye's bible, terrible. Unfortunately we are forbidden to kill people who ridicule the bible.They will attack Christians in every way possible and will fail.

U Muslims kill people for just dropping the quran on the floor or even speaking about the fallacies mohhammed recited in it.

Dude the protestant KJV, NKJV, catholic Good news , get them, read them.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 8:30pm On Jun 01, 2015

Rilwayne001:
See you, I think you should browse his threads back tjen and see how his threads were been refuted by lagoshia, olabowale and co.

You know nothing about the history of this board, don't just come here to display your braggadocio attitude by claiming that you are acquinted with him.

Yes. Its good that he is questioning the lies he has been brainwashed with for long, but why have you and your cohorts find it hard to answer him or posdibly dismatle his doubts? only one reason is available for that, i.e. You have no answer(s) to his questions that usual irrelevant rantings.

Christianity Etc › Re: Reason For Creating Islam Section With Ridiculous Conditions by Ifeann(f): 8:22pm On Jun 01, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Smh. You are one deluded hypocrite xtians (probably an atheist prentending to be xtian or perhaps an agnostic) hahahahahahahaha You should call ifeann wherever she is, she should be the one telling me this nonsense, not you

I dare her to come here and say that again.

Why the attack on allnaijablogger, I remember he has disagreed with my approach twice or more now if I remember correctly but I see no reason to attack him over that.

U Muslims don't know how to handle criticism especially when the truth is brought to u.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 8:14pm On Jun 01, 2015

Rilwayne001:
Yes. I have been telling ifeann a.k.a parisbook that talking about stiffnecked islamophobe, forsbel is their King.

I believe when ifeann do the same for once, she will no doubt throw that books into a trash can.

I am well Acquainted with Frosbel, He did a lot of nice work exposing Islam and mohammed.

That he has questions about his religion is normal. There is no rule not to ask questions in Christianity only Islam forbids asking questions.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 7:58pm On Jun 01, 2015

crusadistic:
most you mention Muslims,useless thing.

Calm down princess.

Most?? I think u mean Must, yeah I will mention Muslims, mohammed/mooHARMmad, Islam, Islamic allah, Aisha, Abu Bakr etc as I please.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 7:50pm On Jun 01, 2015*

frosbel:
I have only 2 questions for you ;

1. Why is it that people who lived in the Igbo land before Christianity ( I can only speak for my tribe ) were more honourable , truthful , content and loving to their fellow brother ? These days , the more churches we have the more we lose trust, love and integrity. Something is wrong somewhere.

Well I am very familiar with the igbo and yoruba cultures. Let's not forget in the distant past that a number of igbo tribes put widows into all manner of humiliation when their husbands died, including seizing the man's properties, visiting juju preists to do away with rivals so as to take someones land, the yorubas are known for their mastery of juju and other fetish activities, some of these abnormalities persist till this day in some villages
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So I don't know what u mean by

1. Why is it that people who lived in the Igbo land before Christianity ( I can only speak for my tribe ) were more honourable , truthful , content and loving to their fellow brother ?

You make it seem all was fine and dandy.
Evil has always existed.
The heart of man is desperately wicked.

You went on to say

These days , the more churches we have the more we lose trust, love and integrity. Something is wrong somewhere.

I am very critical of churches. I don't endorse any, the believer should pray for guidance so you are lead to the right one.
There are many false prophets as Christ warned us of.

I know my bible and the gospel there in, if your church follows christ's teachings then u are on track.

If u pastor is getting divorced marrying and again , always asking for your tithes, First fruit, second fruit, last fruit etc, spending more on his plane than on charity, is more of a motivational speaker than a man called to teach the gospel, selling u books after books that drift further and further away from the bible then SOMETHING IS WRONG.

2. What will happen to all my ancestors who never heard about Jesus for thousands of years before the missionaries came and why did God wait for so long for the gospel to reach them. I think this is a valid question.

Read : Isaiah 66:2 and

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Yeah this is a valid question and the God I worship, I believe is just enough, loving enough and omniscient enough to sort that out.
Please show me one bible passage that says that people who have NOT heard about the gospel will go to hell. There is none. However a certain Arabic/Islamic god won't even recognise u if u don't have an Arabic name.
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Humans have always known there is a creator, its is hard wired in our DNA. Christ came to offer us a special kind of salvation and to save us from ourselves. Christ preached for 2 years and before leaving earth he said spread the gospel 2000 years ago and today we have his words in every Christian home, billions have heard the meassage, that's what matters.

P.s what's the issue with isaiah 66:2. I read it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 7:50pm On Jun 01, 2015

frosbel:
I have only 2 questions for you ;

1. Why is it that people who lived in the Igbo land before Christianity ( I can only speak for my tribe ) were more honourable , truthful , content and loving to their fellow brother ? These days , the more churches we have the more we lose trust, love and integrity. Something is wrong somewhere.

2. What will happen to all my ancestors who never heard about Jesus for thousands of years before the missionaries came and why did God wait for so long for the gospel to reach them. I think this is a valid question.

Read : Isaiah 66:2 and

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Are The Pastors, And Evangelist? Provide An Answer To These. by Ifeann(f): 10:46am On Jun 01, 2015

Scholar8200:
Noted, with thanks. Though the Op just joined NL yesterday so a benefit of doubt might be justifiable. Indeed there are who, if they had posted this, should be ignored.

Good point..

the Muslims often create multiple accounts to attack Christian teachings and post nonsensical topics.

Notice the OP called me by name; and of course my dealings here has been predominantly with the Muslims. Some have 3 to 4 accounts, its hard to keep up. Its an exercise in futility to try and answer their questions especially one as easy as this.

Christianity Etc › Re: Where Are The Pastors, And Evangelist? Provide An Answer To These. by Ifeann(f): 10:14am On Jun 01, 2015

Dude/lady u should not have bothered replying the op.

He is only interested in a silly argument, its common knowledge Adam and eve had several kids. He isn't interested in the answer to his asinine question.

He is now going to proceed by asking isn't this incest ?? Then u make another explanation about the realities of the time and he will come up with another silly argument about another aspect of the genesis narrative. Then u go on to explain that much of genesis is allegorical so we can understand it generation after generation. Then tomorrow he opens another thread asking the same questions.

Its not worth the effort.

Btw Mr OP I am not a pastor.

Scholar8200:
Consider Genesis 5:4
4 After he had Seth, Adam lived 800 years and had other sons and daughters. These daughters (together with the other sons whose names were not mentioned) do not necessarily follow after Seth. If you read the whole chapter, Cain and Abel were not included. It's not possible that after Cain and Abel, no other child was born. Considering the fact that the two were full grown men when they sacrificed, daughters born in between afterwards would also had become young women.
P.S. Not a NL pastor.

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Christianity Etc › Re: I Refuse To Believe That Only 'Christians' Are Saved by Ifeann(f): 11:06pm On May 31, 2015

frosbel:
I believe that all God fearing and honourable people irrespective of religious orientation will be saved into the new kingdom.
The idiocy that only a select group of people are dear to God is akin to supremacist ideology and is counter-productive to the peaceful and loving coexistence between all men.
Christians have totally missed the point and keep condemning and judging other men to a so called hell when the truth is that God is not a Christian and knows of no such religion. God only knows and honours those who practice goodness , equity , fairness and love.
Those deluded ones who keep living like the devil and claim the blood of Jesus as a legal loophole will be in for a shocker.
I will rather be friends with a Muslim who loves his fellow man than a Christian who slanders, insults and humiliates others
Remember ; God sees the heart and not the 'mouth' !

Neither is the decision up to you nor does what u think or believe matter.

I would imagine that Good people who never heard of Christ and left this world would Not be condemned to eternal damnation.

But if u hear of Christ, read his message and are exposed to his gospel then u put yourself in a tight spot when u reject him. Most especially Muslims that reject the gospel for mohammed's fallacies.

This is my opinion btw, and it doesn't matter on this subject.

Ultimately, Its the creators decision.

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ifeann(f): 5:09pm On May 31, 2015

Demmzy15:
The blame goes to the Iraaqi Government who marginalized the Sunnis. No doubt some Sunnis are in alliance with isis, but majority have fought them off. When isis first attacked 'Ramadi', the sunnis totally drove them out, but the moment Shia Militias got involved everything changed! When ISIS asked the sunnis of Dhuliyah which is near Balad to surrender some government officials, they refused and fight broke out. They ultimately drove isis out, the Sunnis and Shias are defending the city of Sammara. Ramadi fell to isis because the government refused to supply the tribesmen and the army officers.

Can you guess what isis did to Sunnis in 'hit' in anbar after they took it over?! Let me answer that for you, the men were all beheaded and shot, the women and children who ran away were all stucked in the desert with some even dying. The sunni scholars of Mosul when isis took it over were all killed, the government did nothing. This and other activities has reduced the morale of the sunnis, the shia militias on the other hand are responsible for reprisal attacks against innocent sunnis.

When we move to Syria the FSA, YPG, Ahrar Shams, etc are the most efficient sunni groups fighting isis and other Al Qaeda affiliates. The YPG
was responsible for the protection of Kobani near Turkey.

Muslims keep murdering each other... since the murder culture was introduced by your prophet it hasnt stopped.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is The Spirit Of Truth In The Holly Bible. by Ifeann(f): 4:32pm On May 31, 2015

Sweetnecta:
^ YOU ARE JUST AS DIFFICULT AS THE HINDU GUY TELLING ME THAT....

IFEANN WHO THINKS SHE IS THE GREATEST HAPPENING SINCE COMPUTER AGE.

I have never boasted or made such a statement... u are the one who thinks so

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Foreign Affairs › Re: Christian Syrian Fighter Beheads Isis Prisoner In Revenge by Ifeann(f): 4:29pm On May 31, 2015

Demmzy15:
You're the one who is full of double standards and hypocrisy! Most of threads I create about scholars refuting ISIS are always from Saudi Arabian Scholars and Scholars influenced by Saudi Arabia. Majority Muslims on this forum have condemned the atrocities of isis, bokoharam etc but when we do this, you say we can't condemn them because they(terrorists) are real Muslims. Later you enter a new thread and lie we Muslims have never condemned them, when in fact we did. Aren't you an hypocrite?! The moderate rebels are mostly Sunni Muslims, this includes Ahrar Shams, YPG(a kurdish sunni Muslim militia), etc. this Muslims have been fighting isis in Syria and they've lost a lot. In Iraaq you have the Sunni tribesmen who have been killed that are also fighting them, the Persmerga who are also sunni kurdish Muslims are also fighting. But you know nothing!

The international coalition against ISIS which includes most middle-east countries including Saudi Arabia have been helping the moderate Syrian rebels and they've been providing air cover for moderate rebels. It was in this coalition a Jordanian pilot was burnt in a cage! Yet you come with your dirty mouth and say nonsense!

U have exaggerated their efforts....the sunnis have practically done nothing...

Even Sunni iraqis army personnel have refused to fight isis.. hence city after city has fallen to isis..do u even follow information on this..

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Are Ifeann, Malvisguy212, Truthman2012 Are Not With The 'local White Boys?' by Ifeann(f): 5:40pm On May 30, 2015

Sweetnecta:
its happening in pheonix arizona and the wacos and sickos are out in arms against islam.

I would call them trouble finders, very silly folks holding the event outside a mosque when they can draw the fellow elsewhere. However, I see no problem if they want to Draw a certain dead 7th century bearded paedophile. Its their right, relax and drink some warm tea.

well, the muslims in pheonix, indeed the whole of usa are in the minority.
so when there is a group from the majority against the minority, this act is almost as bad as isis, boko haraam except they have not began
to shed blood, yet.

This is officially one of the most hypocritical things I have read on nairaland. Surprise surprise it was posted by a muslim.

What about the minority of Christian in Iraq, Iran, turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, etc who are murdered routinely by Muslims. Who aren't allowed to practise their religion freely. Hindu mothers whose children are taken away from them and given to their muslim fathers because the mothers refuse to convert etc. Hypocrisy is a Muslims life.

So drawing mohammed by a small group of people outside a mosque is worse than ISIS, BH. ?? U are quite a doorknob Aint you.

sometimes, oppression is worse than killing if not every time. this protest in pheonix arizona is bordering on the sometimes.

No killing is worse than oppression.
Ofcourse to a muslim life is cheap so I understand why u would say oppression is worse than killing

my surprise is why the chairpersons of anti islam on nairaland are not there in pheonix arizona with the biker gang intending to get rid of islam?

Drawing mohammed isn't going to wake people up about Islam. Discussing Islam and exposing mohammed in videos, articles, blogs, debates, forums etc will.

where are you madam ifeann, mr. malvisguy212, mr. thruthman2012 and the other wackos and sickos after the way of God the Almighty?

Define sicko and wacko.

By the way clap for yourself, u can actually type in small letters. Be a good girl, no more all caps.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Armed Biker Gang Plans Open-carry “draw Mohammed” Contest Outside Phoenix Mosque by Ifeann(f): 5:06pm On May 30, 2015

Rilwayne001:
I understand what she's trying to do. She's trying to provoke me in other that I may come down to her level and exchange insult with her, so that she might screenshot my posts for her usual nonsense and blackmail that muslims insult her.

Thats the true color of a slowpoke that she is.

Lol. Those screenshots really exposed you Muslims as brutes.

I didn't insult your prophet. I only stated what he was. Mohammed was bully, fraud, pervert and murder, yeah he did say a few nice things while in mecca before fleeing for Medina, however power corrupted him because he was a fraud. I will say it to u as much as possible until it finally sinks into your "block" head.

Cc
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