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WetinConsignMe:
Oh, examples abound. You can google "predictions or prophecies that came true".
The problem with answering this type of question is that the questioner can always find an angle through which to doubt whatever u say, forgetting that just about everything we think we know can be doubted, including our very existence.
Where do I start? Let me start with things I'm 100% sure about:
All through my growing up, my entire extended family had our eyes on two particular people, an aunt and an uncle. It was known to us all that a random fortune teller told them when they were little that my aunt would be like a big tree who would provide shade to many peope,
while my uncle would be like a bird trying to get off the ground but couldn't and finally stayed on the ground.
Fast forward to today, my aunt is a wealthy woman, with many employees and many people dependent on her for their livlihood. My uncle, on the other hand, after several heroic but unsuccessful efforts to make it in the city, has stayed poor and has finally settled permanently in the village.

HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE!!!!

Within the answer to that question lies the secret to the
true nature of our existence.

ifenes, sir, emphatically, u r not god.

Indeed I am not god, I'm a GOD!!

I don't really know how to simplify it further.

WetinConsignMe:
Ok, god, do the following (which should be child's play for a god)

*tell your hair (not even another person's, your own!) not to grow. Same with your nails.
* choose not to sleep for a month
* tell your cells to stop aging
* tell yourself to become younger
* tell your heart to skip.just one beat
* all the processes going on.within you, tell them to stop.for one second.

These are things going on WITHIN YOU that you have absolutely no control over. Some god!

Okay since you feel you have a god somewhere, who is it ? I doubt the idea of god you think is your god can do any of the points you mentioned. If your body stops working you will die because that's part of the illusion. But do you think you will stop existing? No

I can see your mind is fixed on the religious ideology of what a god is. The one that says you are powerless....good luck with that.

Peace

Yes the most important parts are missing. The book is not meant to be a religious book to start with. Too many unfinished stories that demands the full and major parts are missing. But then, only observant people will ask these questions.

GuidoVanRossum:
I think you've played so much games sir. Games are so different from reality.
If you say the current life is an illusion, you are telling me that when I kill a goat, eat and digest it into my system, it's just an illusion. No sir. Those are realities. They are as real as me replying this post.

That is why they are called illusion. Illusions are very powerful, find out more about it and you will understand me. Thanks.

WetinConsignMe:
Who said anything about any book here. What u r witnessing is pure common sense and basic reasoning at work.
This our reality seems too contrived to have not been set up by someone. And Mr. Free will, when did u choose what dream to have last night? Infact why didn't u stay awake and choose not to sleep for a month?

You are trying very hard to distance yourself from your responciblity here. Dreams are subconscious Astra travel into parallel universes. When your body sleeps, your brain is no longer in control, hence your witness other energy bubbles you exist in.sleep is the most advance and natural form of meditation. Sleep is a reminder to us that we beyond space and time etc. Im sorry what I'm trying to inform guys on this nairaland is too advance. You are your creator, no other person is. The creation and creation are one and the same. The paintings of a painter defines him and his state of mind.

You are God means you are powerful. Being a God doesn't only mean you must do positive stuff, it also means you can use your creative powers negatively. Mind creates realities, so a poor person creates his reality too. We are all creators, all God.

WetinConsignMe:
I don't think u read the op properly. Here is part of it:

God exists outside our human reality and understanding.

Yet u r trying to figure Him out based on human reality and undersranding. If we perceived reality as it truly is everything would make sense including God, but we don't. I supect in reality everthing is "circular" including time and space. No begining, no end.

And I said the God you describe is yourself.

GuidoVanRossum:
You mean when someone sustains a knife injury and is bleeding, it's an illusion? I think I disagree with this notion sir.

Yes it is because at worst it will end that reality(life/body) but the real you lives on for eternity anyway. Illusions don't exist for ever, they fade as your shift in time. Time itself is an illusion.

ABBkelvin:
Why do living things need to involve themselves in the so called pain game? What is the purpose of experiencing good and bad?

When we learn to see life as a play, it won't come across as pain. Pain come as a result of reacting negatively to the unfavourable situations Your state of mind is all that is important regardless of what you go through. Family, jobs, money, poverty are part of the play. Play with life and understand that every thing you see around you are not real.

Negative situations are usually measure points of how strong you are. It shows you have taken the game to a higher level. The higher you go the more difficult. People facing hardship are usually Masters testing themselves with negative situation. The point of the game is not to get distracted from the pure energy bubble that we are. Some give up by committing suicide only to exist( die) and realise it is only a game. Some push forward and reach the next level. What ever the negative or positive situation is, it's all about hold tight to your true self. In the face of someone bribing you to do something negative and you thought to yourself you might use the cash for your rest....... This is a test you must understand is part of the game.

Those who play to survive will end up playing the game again, those who play with joy become masters. There are no good or bad, it's all down to our personal interpretations

ABBkelvin:
Why do we need to feel or not feel pain?

Because it is a game. While in the game you can feel the emotions, end the game and everything becomes normal and a laugh. I personally feel sometimes pain is for personal development. The negatives ends up becoming positives

And your trust a book to tell you about your true nature about yourself ? A book tells you a God created you and yet cannot produce the location of this god ? Well it happens that the God is lost in itself. Otherwise if we say God created other Gods, God itself must have a creator and it will be endless. But instead of trying to figure out who created the man in the mirror, touch yourself and you will realise the man in the mirror is only a reflection of you.

Because you expect a particular answer.

WetinConsignMe:
How can u possibly believe that? You don't even have any way of knowing your true nature. You could be just an imaterial brain wave or a brain in a jar. You have no hand in deciding how, when, or where you were born or even how your brain works. Which means you actually have no true free will. Some God!

Free will is our true nature which we are exercising all the time. Being on this physical plane of existence is a choice we made, all the illusions are choices. My true nature is unconditional love, my brain is only an antenna to my much higher self, the part of me that knows it all, the same part which religion calls God. Taping into that part of me means I will have to eliminate my ego mind which is my false self.

Our thoughts create what we experience, train your thoughts and you will experience stuff that are totally different. We are Masters of the Universe but many do not know that.

The church is you. Your body is the church of God, meaning your body houses your soul and your more expanded self.

You are your God....your actions can only hurt yourself. Let's not forget this physical reality is not real. It's like playing Call of Duty and getting shot. It will seem like it hurts you even why it's only the character in that game will be affected. On a more advance level, we are God living like we are our body, which we ain't. Our true selves is HUGE and cannot be hurt by the silly things we do with this Avater.

WetinConsignMe:
I beg to differ. We are all gods in a sense. But there is also God who set up this our reality and who exists outside it. That is the only way to explain various supernatural phenomena that are forever placed beyond our comprehension, science, logic, and natural laws of cause ans effect.

Your reality is your creation, no one can set that up for you. I know religion created a different God to control the lives of the many. But that's totally up to individuals to accept whether they are their own God or to accept another God created by the few in control. God as known by religion is the God of the matrix......the matrix isn't real, you are. You are God and the universe is inside of you.

God itself means "power" and it is You and I. God is the hidden part of us that dwells in every possible dimensions. Knowing God is knowing yourself, knowing that you are powerful.

Worshiping God is an act of self appreciation we have misunderstood as worshiping a man in the sky. We will continue to go in cycle until we realise that we are all God experiencing existence from unlimited/ trillions of eyes

Rapture is an illusionary shift of consciousness from a lower to higher density or vibrationary bubble. The terms "catching up with Christ" means the individual has accepted his/her/it's true loving nature and thereby moved up to the level of unconditional love. It's not about seeing a white man in the cloud but rather a vibrational change to a different level, graduation to the next school of existence, an illusionary upgrade basically.

In a lame man's language, you have moved up the ladder and expanded beyond your previous level.

A God technically cannot feel pain but can experience the illusion of pain. Pain itself is not real unless A God choose to experience it by participating in (example) a human experience where he/she/it can experience pain.

Polygamy isn't a sin. It is only against what is accepted by the society. Norms change as society changes.

There is no beginning

kenonze:
Science and religion can never agree.
Sorry am an academic

Although they both say the same thing in different ways. Being an academic means you lean towards the opinions of limited logical findings which alone does not prove anything.

The throne of God or Temple of God is the body of every individual. It's a shame people have been ill educated to think there is a throne out there. Your body is the temple or throne, the real you is the God sitting or residing in it.

vaxx:
call it self love , self intrest, self worth, self hype ... They are all product of self egoism........

According to webster dictionary....it define egoism as thus...making largely impulsive judgments and behaving based on whether it helps a human’s self-interest .....your analogy fall into this categories.... It is self knowledge.... It those not mean what you are saying is the real truth...

And your truth is what some people agreed to to put up in a dictionary ? Do you know what self love even means ? Self worth, high regard and respect for yourself, acceptance and appreciation for whom you are............ The ego you talk about means a false self, not being in control of your life......yes this is my opinion, my definition and my truth. What is yours ? Oh wait you gonna need the dictionary

Even the Christians say it unconsciously-Love God. But Unknowingly to them, they are the God, the inner man, the subconscious that never die. Therefore it means love yourself, honour yourself, adore yourself, not in an egotistic way....... You need to love yourself first before you love another.


I'm saying this with respect and love brother.....not because I'm better than you, we are all equals.

Yes we exist. That's what we have always been, to exist. And because we exist we experience life in different forms. These form are illusions within illusions, dreams within dreams. Therefore, the lives we see ourselves living is an illusion, while we remain the same- Existence. We are the Great Illutionists

butterflyl1on:
Ifenes this comment by you is why I opened this thread and refused to define anything even when constantly harassed to do so.

Are we all simply definitions? Who has the right to define anyone?

Even if i was defined, do I not have the right to change the definition of myself? Do I not have the right to change me as the knowing being which I am?

Indeed calling myself anything derogatory such as an animal when I refuse to be subjected to such as A CHOICE can I not then change that view?

Ifenes what would you say about the consciousness of this hu-man? Is it within limits of this realm or does this realm hold no restriction?

I will quickly post a reply

We are way more than science and academical books have limited us to. We in our true essence have no definition. If I may freely express myself here, I will have to say we are a bundle of unlimited possibilities. Calling ourselves or accepting to be called animal is like subconscious voodoo, it automatically shows you are limited. That is objectifying ourselves.

And because we have accepted this limiting definitions we tend to accept labels, passports, birth certificates etc. I'm I really 20, 30 or 40 years old ? Of course not, I'm ancient, we all are. Let's call ourselves what we are - Ancients of days, Beings( to be or exist continuously)

The consciousness of the human being: We are more than our bodies. The deeper part of us exist in every possible realms we can ever imagine. And yet we can limit ourselves to what we see today. That's the power of illusion we pocess.

Someone said I say all these things out of ego...... Well it's called self love. I will not call myself a bastard because Isaac Newton thinks so.

Like I have said many time, words have meanings. Like referring to one's self as a "person" has its own meaning. Accepting to be called a person in a legal system mean you have no natural right you would have if you referred to yourself as a "Human Being" or "Man"

Words are powerful and they shape who we are. Do we just accept beliefs( academical and religious) because we are a graduate of schools( brainwash institutions) ? Now we even refer to ourselves as " animals" as this further confines us to the prison walls of survival rather than actually living.

This topic is huge and simple. This is a battle between free thoughts and academical programmed minds. One part sees themselves as animals due to affiliation of a certain type of education. Some other see themselves as more than animals. I personally will not refer to myself as an animal because some books said so. I am a Hu-Man-Being ( knowing being) not less in any shape or form. Animals are caged oppressed, thought for, reformed, tamed etc......I cannot be

NPComplete:
Unfortunately for u this analogy doesn't fly. 1+1 doesn't become something else in a 10 dimensional world for God's sake. Ifenes, you are beyond this attempt at intellectual dishonesty na.

A 3D world can be explained to a 2D by mathematical models. This same way a mathematical model is used to explain a tesseract to we 3D humans. And even higher dimensions come within grasp when they are explained with mathematical rigour.

It is such rigour we implore u adherents of pseudoscience and fringe religions to subject your beliefs to. We only ask that you show us what can be done without asking us to believe and practice first.

Anything other than that proves your belief is horseshit.

"For God sake" ? So you now use the term "God"

You cannot experience what you are not a vibration of. You cannot tune to a radio station which frequency you cannot match. life is an experience, not explanations. This is not a belief but an experience. Astral travel is normal, it shouldn't even be a debate.

1 +1 =2 in the ordinary man's world, but to those with proper knowledge of how the universe works, 1+1 can be unlimited. I have experienced this and I am experiencing it.

1 + 1 for me is aboundance, unlimited resources, because I have programmed my mind experience such. 1 +1 = 2 is a deliberate use of arithmetic to program people's minds, to mentally limit what they expect in life. It's crazy this is taught in schools, program you to accept limitations, then you become a graduate of this academical ill teachings and defend it like the Christians defend the erounous teachings of the bible.

You have to rethink everything dude

NPComplete:
Yeah. There's an adjective for people who sees 1+1 as anything other than 2.

Hint: Delusional.


Shush, don't tell anyone.

Delusion to you is something you do not understand obviously. There is a difference between 2D and 3D, 2D will obviously be the one say 3D is deluded. 3D being understanding will let 2D wonder in his 2 dimensional world. Due to that I will let you be. I hope someday you will resist this post when you upgrade a bit more.

NPComplete:
One thing I have noticed about these astral clowns is that they are as much conceited in their undemonstrable knowledge as they are idiotic. They go about throwing lines like "many minds can't grasp this", " when you are ready you will know" and other profound sounding horseshit their heads can conjure up in their lack of evidence.

One of them here even claimed he once a Christian and an atheist ergo he couldn't possibly be deceiving himself right now. Lol. That's the most stupid ironic claim I have ever seen. What that means is that despite he has a history of being fickle and capricious, we should take his present stance seriously.

That's the same thing u will notice about most of them. They are unstable as a drinking toy bird always seeking to be filled with something. That isn't necessarily a bad thing. Nobody actually knows all of the truth and we must continue to seek for truth and knowledge for as long as we live. The problem comes when certain people claim they have the truth but wouldn't submit themselves to scrutiny to have that their version of the truth tested in scientific rigorous ways that will help everybody but then go around asking to be believed by fiat and fouling the air with their untested pseudoscience while at the same time turning up their noses towards people who believe in other things.

Freaking clowns.

Typical example of the type of mind school books are meant for. The type that only sees 1+1 = 2 ......

Because you weren't taught that in school doesn't mean it false. Projecting out of the body has to do with strong mental ability which people hardly poccess in our time. After all most of your academic knowledge were determined centuries ago. The real education is self taught, not stuff like evolution that was agreed by a bunch of old men.

There is a part of us that doesn't exist in time. This part of us know it all. Astra progection is a tiny feature of many unlimited feature of that part of us we do not know exist.

Astra projection itself is a much upgraded version of our dreams. Everyone dreams as a reminder that we are not our body.

Billy's got to be a very patient guy to want to help you guys understand that you are more than a body. All the so-called atheists who are shocking with their levels of reasoning. They read books like Christian and have no knowledge.

kellytuns:
Hello good people of God......before i start my narration i am pleading to all not to mind my English....i have been spiritually down for more than 4 months now,i hardly pray or getup at midnight to pray unlike before.can't even remember the last time i went for Sunday service or read my bible.i remember some time ago embarking on a 40 days 6 to 6 dry fasting,this year alone i have done 3 days dry fasting and prayer consecutively twice(72hrs)were i usually locked myself indoors without outside contact,food and water.the heartbreaking thing rightnow is that i have now gone back to the things i promise God not to indulge in anymore.infact i have derailed.please i need advise

Fortunately you are shifting,you are maturing, you are stopping to resonate with the old permission slips( prayers,meditation,Jesus). "Greater is he that is in you"- do not forget. That part of you greater than anything is God, which is your true self. You don't need 70 day fasting, why ? All you need is to appreciate,love yourself because you Are that You Are.... No need for hunger strikes.