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And they paid tithes? I hope not.....

ArcToyin:
Khalil Gibrine or whatever you call his name is very inferior to Paul. He cannever stand him even in intellectual matter. BTW, Paul is a god he is a human like you that gave himself for the propagation of the truth.

Did you meet both of them to make this claim? Did you notice how our conversation moved from " God said" to "Paul said" ? At least you have agreed Paul wrote those stuff based on his opinions, and not a god.

ArcToyin:
All the chapters will help but you can study Ephesians Chapter 4-6.

This was "allegedly" written by a guy called Paul. Unless Paul is the god you claim to serve.

A guy called Khalil Gibrine wrote about marriage not being a necessity to raise kids. I do agree with him more than Paul.

ArcToyin:
You are the one having wrong mentality due to devil's manipulations. Read the Bible very well and you will know the truth.

Read where in particular ?

mozele:
God is never happy seeing His creation fight and destroy themselves thinking they are fighting for Him.

We are ignorantly making Him look stupid. But still... Even apostle Paul summerized it in Ephesians 6;7

Your male God tho...... Would you agree to a Goddess for a change ? Let's not be sexist

Interesting, both are two sides of a coin.

kkins25:
Cooop, thanks for starting the thread. I also have been researching intensively about the major religions including Christianity, islam, hindusm, Buddhism,illuminism(illuminati), gnostisismand medivial abrahamic religion(judiasm/kabbalah).

Pardon typo errors pls, im using a mobile phone.

So the little i have read these past few weeks has really opened my eyes. As a matter of fact i have gotten confused and overwhelmed with information.
I also have several questions for billionaire, sarrasin, ifenes, PastorAiO, and other truth seekers in the forum. I have a milli milli questions and comments.

To begin proper, lets analyze from the beginning - from the Source, the Creator, the Father, The One, Pure light and Divine Love. According to Abrahamic religion,judiasm- the kabbalah(book of enlightenment) to be specific.
CREATION OF THE WORLD..
In the kabbalah a jewish rabbi, explained how God came to being. I was surprised that the jews already knew of the big bang theory our scientists use to explain the creation of the cosmos. Im in absolute shock!! So here is how creation occured according to the kabbalah: In the beginning God the eternal was in a sense the "universe". God was the "matter" that occupied what we call "nothingness". God was pure light, God contracted himself to a point inorder to give space for what would be our universe and the cosmos. Its really difficult to explain for i have not grasped the whole concept yet. However God was represented in a diagrm(cant remeber the name now). This diagram illustrated the several levels of what we call the Godhead. So after the contraction of The source it created a vessel, this vessel is called Adam knov or something like that. God out of love was sharing his light to this vessel adam but something went wrong. The vessel was suppose to receive this light but the adam vessel became the Source and it(the vessel) also wanted to share this light out of love. But the vessel couldnt creates a recipient for the light it wanted to share hence causing adam knov, to explode into an ocean of individual souls. I dont tire.

So this theory of the kabbalah is somewhat analogous to the hindu, buddha belief. That life is about aspiring to be united with God, the Source.

Now to judaism and Christianity,and islam. these group believ God an entity, eternal - created the cosmos with the infamous statement (let there be light). God created the heavens and the earth, you know the story. Let me just go straight to the point, Heaven according to these offsprings of Abrahamic religion, is a place where there would be bountifull joy, happiness and lots of honey, milk and probablu virgins. Heaven is described like it is a place that has buildings and an active government headed by the Godhead. (we will discuss the nature of the Godhead). In these rival siblings we have only one life on earth. And judgements according to deeds which would one to hell or heaven..

Which is true and which is less true?

According to illuminism(founded by pythagoras) all religions have a flaw. Illuminism agree with the core belief that life is about getting back to God. But illuminism is synonymous to gnostism(we should talk about these too) in the sense that jehova, ywvh, allah is but a Blood thirsty God identified as the devil aka the demiurge aka salbatoch(wrong spelling).

Would discuss more later. Thanks.

I love this. Brb!

[quote author=Cooop post=58333388]Ifenes, thank you for your response. Your answers were satisfying but they raised more questions.

Are these beings from other dimensions able influence our reality? Like entities that hunt houses and make themselves visible to humans living in those houses? Do they have the power to make humans see them?

We are creators of what we experience. Due to movies, indoctrinations, cultural beliefs we shape a world where it is possible for external beings to influence our lives. Hence as we grow up in the belief that we can be influenced, we therefore create a world where such stuff can happen. Don't forget we may all be on this planet but we experience different realities based on belief system we buy into. Songo cannot hurt someone who doesn't believe in Songo. For it to hunt or interact with you there must be a fearful belief about it in us. What we truly believe in is what we experience.

How about other animals? Do they also possess souls? Do they also have specific frequencies? Like I have heard that dogs are able to see beings from other dimensions. Does that mean dogs vibrate at higher frequencies than humans?

Animals are amazing life forms. They are terrestrial and yet alien to us. They ain't even humanoids at all. They are life forms we should appreciate and learn from. like the Dolphins, the dog vibrates at higher frequencies or we can say in a lame mans language, they are connected to the spirit level due to the simple ways of life. The dog eats, sleeps and has no complicated life. Same as other animal.

Buddha had to get rid of all the complication of life to become in tune with his true self. He noticed that what we kill ourselves for e.g money, clothings... All keep us in the material world. Animals don't have these problems, they are naturally intune and light years ahead of us humans.

Lastly, how is it that devices like cameras and televisions are better than the ordinary human eye in capturing these inter-dimensional entities? Are these devices able to vibrate at a higher frequency.

Funny enough police of today make use of sniffer dogs to detect crime or drugs because they cannot yet come up with technology that can do that. It's easy to use a dog because they are man's friend and are very honest.

The dog cannot communicate so has no ability to say what it sees. But to your question, technology I believe can bridge the gap as man digresses into pure materialism. I cannot say much about the cameras now, I will have to look into it and share my findings with you later

Have a good day

Cooop:
I became an atheist about a year ago, but since then my convictions about truth and the nature of reality has changed drastically. Now I don't define myself as an atheist anymore. I don't believe that the God most religions claim to be God is God. But I do have my own definition of God, and that is that God is the divine source of all life that exist in the universe. And all life that emerged from the source is God.
Also, unlike typical atheists, I don't discount the existence of the "supernatural." I believe the "supernatural" exists and it is comprised of other dimensions outside the 3rd dimension in which humans physically exist, and I believe that there are other beings that exist in these other dimensions. Some are benign while others are evil. I also believe that we have the power to see these beings and mingle with them if we are able to raise our vibrations to the frequencies of other dimensions.

I also do not dismiss the contents of religious books like the Bible or the Quran. I believe that their content is powerful, inspiring and gives invaluable insight into the supernatural and the latent ability we possess to access other realms.

I am speechless! I couldn't put all these any better.

My journey towards this amazing realization and more possible realizations is just beginning and I am glad that I have access to the kind of knowledge that I have. I have dedicated myself to learning and growing and during this learning process, I have encountered questions that most of my learning sources do not provide an answer to, and I am hoping Billyonaire, Ifenes or anyone else that's enlightened can provide an answer to these questions.

1. What's the usefulness of blood sacrifices, human sacrifice especially, in manifesting a need? Why do demons/extraterrestrials etc have an obsession with blood sacrifice and why do they demand it? Like the God in the old testament for instance? Why do native doctors and shamans demand the sacrifice of humans and animals in order to manifest an need?

Blood is useful to the Yahwehs,Demons, let me just call them E.Ts....for several reasons. Firstly for the Energy. Blood contains life force energy and secondly they use it to stay in this dimension. Apart from using its concentrated energy for feeding, they also need it live in our dimension. The female menstruated blood is the most powerful source of energy to them as it ensures long life( the holy grail).

For humans who know the importance of blood, they spill it to experience different dimensions. A voodoo priest will spill blood to gather more energy for a brief parallel reality shift. He can see into the future or past ( parallel realities) by this means. The holy mass of the Catholic Church( originally called holy mess/ menstruated blood) or holy communion is a reminder of the importance of blood. The Christians also say "they sprinkle" the blood of Jesus( a symbol of human sacrifice) for divine energetic protection.......call you see the pattern ? Same as in Islam, they must spill blood to appease E.T god a.k.a Allah.

2. What dimension was Jesus Christ operating in? And is the belief in a human who has accessed a higher dimension like Jesus did, powerful enough to alter our reality and manifest our needs? Is the power in this belief affected by whether or not this person is dead or alive? What's the underlying principle in the belief in Jesus or the effectiveness of calling his name?

Jesus a.k.a yeshua, reading from the bible( the only available source so far) was obviously born by artificial insemination. Half earthling and half E.T if the story were accurate as the bible explained. He must have had lots of coaching from his non- human parents. It was no surprise he was able to seem ahead of his time. So obviously he vibrated at a much higher frequency, he understood the meaning of "God". God us in our truest forms. He said he was the way meaning "be like me", be loving,be kind to others, love others like you love yourself, then you will have the keys to the kingdom of God/ heaven....... Kingdom of heaven means experiencing a much higher dimensional state of being. This is the dimension he was.

When people call Jesus, they are trying to align with that level of consciousness he was at. The level at which the physical is non existence, a state where the physical impossibilities are possible. A ready made soup without them going through the pain of cooking it. Can calling the name of Jesus work? Yes it can but not like they are taught in the churches.

Calling the name of Jesus to do miracles (to achieve stuff not supported by the laws of physical realities) requires faith. Faith is believing turning to seeing. Physical reality is the opposite- seeing is believing, while faith is- believing is seeing. People who use Jesus use it S a permission slip. Permission slip is you using an idea to achieve a goal. A weird example: using the picture of rihanah to ejaculAte. Rihanna didn't do it, you did it. This is where Jesus comes in for Christians.

3. Why is it possible that "evil" beings of other dimensions submit to the Name of Jesus or any symbol of him like a cross?

4. What kind of ET/IT met Mohammed during his time alone in the cave? The hadith documents that he felt so afraid to the point where he told his wife, Khadija that he wanted to kill himself to end the pain and fear. What kind of being was this and what was his purpose in giving Mohammed the Quranic scriptures?

They did not submit to Jesus but rather to that individual. The person haven defined what Jesus means to him, haven put up Jesus as a positive energy instantly align with at energy subs consciously to eradicate negative fears. Once people understand that they created the fears in the first place, eradicating them will be easy without calling Jesus or whomever they think is their protectors.

Unfortunately I don't know much about Mohammed, but lots to E.Ts from different star systems had contAvts with human. Judging from the Quran, this particular E.T was controlling just like Yahweh.

5. How is it that occasionally people in the 3rd dimension are able to witness beings in other dimension? Like stories of people seeing ghosts, angels, spirits etc. Are these beings able to make themselves visible to humans when they want or is it something else?

6. Do beings from other dimensions also have the ability to raise their vibrations to the frequency of higher dimensions? Are humans the only beings capable of this? Is there anything specifically powerful about humans that other entities do not possess?

If anyone vibrates at the same frequency of a ghost, spirits, you will see them. Sometimes we unknowingly shift to a higher vibration through songs, moods, fears, meditation etc. At that point anything is possible. Let's not forget we ourselves are spirits , we go through glitches that might temporarily make us see something unusual to the laws of physical realities

I think all life forms are special in their own ways. We are all God experiencing itself indifferent ways and to exist in unlimited amont of ways. The Dog, humans, E.Ts are mere different ways God exist, different dimensions God it sees itself. We are all playing the game of life.

Beings from other dimensions are forever learning. There is always something to learn and more dimension to upgrade to. It is to infinity, it never ends.

7. I haven't activated my third eye and I haven't raised my frequency above the 3rd dimension, but I plan to. I have heard cases of people who have activated their pineal gland and witnessed entities that were very terrifying. Could you give me some advice on how to prepare myself and overcome fear?

I would appreciate if all my questions are attended to. Thanks.

My opinion, do not force anything. Let them come, they will come to you when it's time. The third eye thing cannot be forced, perhaps you have other things to learn first. But it is good to be aware of it.

This is really interesting. I am happy to see people who think outside the box with upgraded minds. All humans are the same but all do not vibrate at the same frequency.

All mobile phone can primarily make calls and send text messages but you cannot expect the 3310 Nokia to carry out the unique functions of an iPhone 7. In fact the vintage Nokia fone will argue that it is not possible to do a video call simply because it cannot do it or imagine such possibility. This is what goes on in the human world. Logic is limited and those governed by logic alone are prone to sever ignorance. They want evidence they can see with their limited foresight. It is not impossible to explain a 3 dimensional theory to a 1 dimensional being.

Once upon a time I joined an "Atheist" whatsapp group chat via naira land. Honestly I have never met such extreme ignorant minds as I did on there They claim to be "free thinkers" but will not consider the possibility of a parallel universe or possibilities of existence of higher dimensions. They were always quick to debunk. They crave debunking anything contrary to their views. Such mindsets are enslaved to science and Charles Dawkins just as Christians are to the false interpretations of the bible.

Horlufemi:
Argument:
1. Genes (a central component of life) are digital information*.
2. To the best of OUR KNOWLEDGE, digital information is always a product of intelligence.
3. Therefore, to the best of our knowledge, genes (a central component of life) are a product of intelligence.

* Digital information -- such as the instructions of computer code, the hieroglyphic text of the Rosetta stone or Shakespeare's Hamlet -- is not to be confused with order which can be seen in the spontaneous structure of a snowflake or a crystal.
Order is different from digital information in the sense that order would have the DNA molecule comprised of any A-T or C-G pair in any position along its sequence without this impairing the double helix structure.
But since there is more than just order; there is also digital information, the positions of A, T, C and G not only hold the DNA molecule together but are also highly specific so as to translate meaningful code.

cc: blueAgent

The answer is right there, look around you, the intelligent designer is there

OLAADEGBU:
The reason you are not fighting the idea of Tom and Jerry is because you know it is fiction. You fight the idea that there is God because you know He exists and that He threatens you from enjoying your sinful lifestyle, therefore you wish He does not exist.

Surprising I agree this God exist but who is it? The answer is what most Atheists cannot give you,and you yourself have no idea of. But someone irreligious, non dogmatic, who don't see the bible pointing to a deity could boldly tell you God is term that represents the man in the mirror. However I understand your know may not know this yet but hopefully you will reach that level someday........that God is not in the sky but yourself.

I don't remember you atheists taking up arms or protesting against the noise from mosques waking you up but you would not hesitate to get aggressive against God and His word who asks you to repent from your sinful lifestyle. That's what eats you.

When you mature to a certain level, you won't need a book to tell you violence is not the day. Your level of tolorence will be sky high regardless of irritation. But critical thinking on a site like this will still be very much active.

Many atheists are not jobless and yet they find time and space to attack what they think doesn't exist.

You are right in this one. Many of them are indeed jobless and lack the ability to think deeply. A rat is still a rat regardless of its statue.

Aaronsrod:
Then in Jesus name I bless you my brother. May you be experience true deliverance from Satan and voodoo. Nigeria will stand vindicated in Jesus blood. Wash clean of the stain of ancestral curses.

Seriously man you just said the blood of Jesus will wash clean ancestral curses? Doesn't that sound like voodoo in its purest form. The use of blood to eliminate curses. But rather than a chicken, you are using human sacrifice/ blood. Can you take a moment and think of what you said?

Aaronsrod:
We are in darkness.

Jesus is the way the truth and the light. How can you be free in the darkness of voodoo? How can you be free if you are lost?? Look to those who are not lost. Look to those who are strong. They have found power in Christ! They have brought Christ light to us so we can be saved. It is well. I cannot condemn.

The world must be one vision, one people one power one flesh in Christ - if that is Oyibo people power I cannot condemn. My God is an everlasting God!

We ned Jesus. Now.

I have nothing else to say to you mr.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



There is nothing intrinsically mystical about the Lotus Position (Padmasana).

It happens to be the most stable position to sit in, when your legs and hips are fully flexible.

The Oyinbos were "tripped" by its exotic nature, and ascribed significance to it that is quite unnecesary.

The seriousness of bowleggedness depends on the degree.

If there is no deformity of the bones, of is even possible that Yoga might correct the condition.

In any event, it is crucial that you NEVER FORCE a Yoga position, or try to MAKE your body take the "right" posture.

The slower you go, the better.

Lotus position has nothing to do with the Oyinbos. If meditation is the best possible way he could relax his mind and get in his own vibration then who are you to object to that.

To everyone his formula to attain balance. You should focus on your Jesus if you think that's the way for you. I'm not going to discus the templates of heaven with someone who thinks its in the sky and not within himself. Your way is not the only way. Learn that.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Then of what USE are you?

I say there are seven Heavens because it is verifiable and important.

If your System cannot prove anything right or wrong, then it is a worthless waste of your time.

ENLIGHTENMENT is the attainment of a higher level of Life Force.

This is marked by the increase in Wisdom and Understanding.

Within a Universe, there are many infinitesimal levels, so that one can literally have a profound new revelation every fifteen minutes- which many people think is funny, because it has never happened to THEM before.

You can keep notes of the Revelations as they come- you can write acclaimed books and deliver beloved sermons- then, suddenly, one day, you BREAK THROUGH SOMETHING- like a GLASS CEILING- and you find yourself, figuratively-speaking, STANDING ON TOP OF WHERE YOU WERE BEFORE.

All your previous Wisdom and Understanding will look ridiculously simpleminded to you.

You will wonder why you never saw what you are now seeing.

THAT is the part that makes no sense.

You look at your old notes, and may strongly desire to get rid of them-!

That is what happens when you access Heavenly Life Energies.

Your belief makes up 99.9% of your life. How is it serving you? It may be working well for you my brother. Who am I to say you are wrong ?

God is a distorted word used to replace the term "Anunaki". The Anunaki genetically altered the humanoid on the planet to modern humans ( according to ancient Sumer tablets).

Satan is a distorted word for " The Serpent People" or "Reptilians" or "Devil" in some cases. These were said to be the first slaves of the Anunaki who mined gold for them and later rebelled against their masters after acquiring the same technological powers of the genetic creators. They fought them and this led to "the planet became desolate" in the bible. There was war between the Anunakis and Serpent people and the planet was detroyed.

Now back to the bible story. The female humans got in touch with the Remnant of the serpent people who taught them science, witchcraft and secret knowledge of the earth. Don't forget the bible referred to the serpent as wisdom. "Be as wise as the serpent". The bible is in a lot of codes to hide the real meaning of the stories.

However the woman got knowledge( tree of knowledge) from the serpent people( the Reptilians) who once lived on the surface of this planet( according to Sumerian tablets story).

The Anunaki gods were pissed off that the women could cause the man to rebel again, hence all the genetically engineered her punishments again.

The bible stories are deep. The full stories are not in it for obvious reason. Knowledge comes to those who seek. "Suffer not the witch to live" was an order to the males by the Anunaki who now feared the woman.

Next time you see the word "God" in the Old Testament bible, know it used to be " Anunaki" " those who from heVen came " or " those who visited earth from another star system"

Aaronsrod:
Please, my brother. We know who are the masters of this world and we know our Lord in Heaven. There is no longer slave and slavemaster or past and future. To be free we must be one world and one flesh in Christ.

kindly explain the bolded please. I need a detailed explanation.

Oyibo people are not my master, but if they will take Satans power from Africa in Jesus name I cannot condemn. All is for the glory of God.

Voodoo was never satan's power, voodoo was a tool used by those who practice it to project their minds, a unique mind power used for lots of good and also negatives. Voodoo mind power was used to cure ailments,manipulate dimensions, activate power illusions, it was a time African practised the law of attraction in their own ways. Yes it had lots of negatives because the people made it negative. Voodoo was like a Gun, it was up to you what you do with it. Don't blame voodoo, blame the guy using it.

Aaronsrod:
There is no opinion here. Gods word is the word of God.

You are not a Christian.

Who is your master?

I am irreligious, I have no master, I'm a free minded individual.

Calling yourself a Christian means you are subjected to African slave masters created imaginary master. If you say the bible god is your master, it obviously means the European man is your master. Or have you seen this god before?

Why will a slave master tell a slave the truth about himself?

Aaronsrod:
The Bible has come to take Nigeria from idle worship and Satans power. Jesus is bringing us into the modern world. Gods word tells us to cast aside evil powers and be in the body of Christ with his blessed servants who reveal His word through progress and prosperity.

We are reborn in Christ blood.

You forgot to add "your opinion"

This is your opinion you are entitled to

The era of Voodooism is gone. Africa has experienced a parallel shift to a different world where Islam and Christianity are now the main religion. It is what it is unfortunately. I find Voodoom very interesting and fascinating, a different type of illusion, scary to the faint hearted, a true definition of ancient Africa.

OLAADEGBU:
If as atheists say, God doesn't exist and life has no ultimate meaning, why then do they get so passionate when it comes to fighting biblical Christianity? Why do they care?

Honestly it's like fighting the idea of Tom and Jerry. We all know it ain't real, but Tom and Jerry ain't forced on people in schools. You can see pastors fighting to have the CRK in school curriculum . They are ready to Christianised Nigeria, meaning this God ideology of yours must be accepted and imposed on the younger generations at all cost.

Imagine having a mosque in front of your house and be woken up from your restful sleep regularly by some irrelevant noises from imams, how would you feel ? Being harassed by Christian who feel they must convert you in order to have stars on their crowns in heaven. This is what irreligious people face from your cult everyday ? How dare you question why they criticise your god at every given opportunity?

However, some Atheists are jobless and nairaland is their office. I will not mention names . They know themselves . They are probably here already

This pastor was obviously harassing the other guy. Why do people find this funny?

Who is your mother was a valid question tho

And for those who are interested in learning the true meaning of heavens, demons, God, Satan,good, evil etc. I will do some explanations in the next few days. They ain't what religion teach in the church.

It is obvious the bible Christians have heard the phrase " the kigdom of God/ kingdom of heaven is inside of you". "Your body is the temple of God". These are esoteric teachings of the human body not the sky or space is your heaven. Keep your body pure by relaxing well, eating well, medications,balanced sex life, healthy life style, good thoughts etc will be heaven for you. The flow of energy around your body will be nice and easy. But if you do otherwise, you will become sick, mentally unbalanced, emotionally unbalanced etc.

Heaven and hell are what you make of of your body, the temple of God(your essence). How did I know these? By reading the bible and other books. It's easy to understand if your intellect is on point. This has got nothing to do with being an atheist, agnostic, theist or whatever.

Think and grow rich in knowledge.

oaroloye:
WRONG.

The seven Heavens existed before Man.

It takes different Spiritual Energy Levels to access and operate the Energy Centres that correspond to the Vital Organs.



I do not believe a single Religion exists that has "altered the Chakra Tech" to anything. I think that you are. delusional.

The NAGUALS determined that THE CROWN CHAKRA is a FAKE. An IMPLANT forced upon us all at BIRTH by Hostile Entities.

Your education is your responsibility not mine. It is not my place to say you are wrong or right.

AlvanT:
As a trainer any chance I can adapt to the lotus position? The deformity was bow leg (is that even abnormal?)...My groin muscles just don't allow it.Any execises to wean my legs,may physiotherapy or something?

There is lotus meditation chair you can get that will put you in a comfortable position. It is mostly used in hospitals, especially in the physio- therapy department for those with similar discomforts. It help you relax your and take a relaxing position. They cost about £20 max and maybe a little bit more I think.

AlvanT:
Any time I see diagrams of people meditating it's always in the cross-legged lotus position.Due to some childhood deformity I can't sit in that position,which other one do you recommend?

The idea is for you not to lean your spine to allow proper concentration. So I would suggest any position you are comfortable to allow you concentrate. You can sit down on a chair and keep your abs straight. It's also a good workout, I do before my workouts at the gym.

The seven heavens is a reference or coded illustration of the 7 chakras of the human body. The centres through which energy flows. These Energy centres have specific uses, of which when block can lead to misuse of energy,sicknesses etc

Religion has hijacked this teachings and deliberately altered its meaning. 7 chakras from The Crown Chakras to the Root chakras are energy points or heavens in the human body.

Religion at its best,a tool for divsion.