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Jhaytee4all:
Actually, I'm the one who should be telling you sorry

Lol I sympathise with you for being scared of hell. Imagine the positive things you could do with your life rather than waste it on misinformation.

Idango:
Ifenes, you are that young man with a Deeper life parents who was lost. I pity you. You can still escape hell.

Deeper life teaches you to live in fear. Am I wrong ? Yes I had a deeper life parent which made me know all about Kumuyi. But again, he has the right to decieve those who are too lazy to rescue themselves.

I will school Kumuyi when it comes to the bible.

Jhaytee4all:
What are your claims?



"Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last: and, what you see, write in a book, and send it to the seven churches. . . -Rev1:11"

"Write the things which you have seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter
-Rev1:19"

What are you insinuating? Jesus told him to write what he saw and not fiction.



Don't misinterpret it to your own knowledge. It is not meant for 'those' ... It is meant for everyone who believes!





Woah!

Jesus ? If you truly believe Jesus existed, then I shouldn't be having this discussion with you sorry.

Budex40:
Dude this Man is a First class graduate of Mathematics from UNILAG. The Federal govt gave him a scolarship to the U.K but he refused.

Get ur facts straight Bro. Nobody writes over 400 books without a rich and large amount of Knowledge

Academic success don't mean a thing. You can have knowledge without degrees.

Idango:
The subject of hell is something most people will rather not talk about .
Most preachers have avoided talking about hell, they will rather preach about the love of God than to mention hell fire. Some have even said that the love of God is so great that he can't throw anyone into hell and that hell is just a metaphor.

The bible in Psalm 9:17 said that the wicked shall be turn to hell and all the nations that forget God.

This a reference to atomic destruction of particular areas on the planet that went against the tyranny rules of the Illojim\Elohim. This is a deep story I will not go into, but it has nothing to do with a place where people will burn for ever.

The bible in the new testament talk about hell in 162 texts , 70 of these were uttered by the Lord Jesus christ himself.

Revelation 20 :15 says " And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."

Jesus did not say that, the writer of revelation did, and this revelation stories have absolutely nothing to do with Christianity. The bible is an Extratterstrials stories meant for those who truly have high thinking capacity, otherwise it will lead to what you are asking.[/quote]

Hell is a place of torment for unrepentant sinners.

What do you think about hell ?

Next time you see hell, think Atomic destruction, nothing more.

Yes!

flamingREED:
What you posted is ungrammatical.
Do you know why?



But as for us,
Education brings out of us, and through us, the beauties of God Almighty.

Education with wrong information, how far has that taken you ? Do you know what God means ? God means "power" , hidden power you possess. If you know what God really is,you won't be a Christian to start with. Knowledge is power, it enable you see yourself as God, not the other way round like Mr Kumuyi teach his miseducated flocks of sheep.

ebenice:
a university don of mathematics with a G.P of 7.0 from a prestigious university...whom has travelled far and wide..sit with great Leaders and written many books and manage an expanding Large ministry and respected by millions all over the world is "gullible" according to you abi?

Weldon sir

All that means nothing sir. Academic success means nothing at all when it come to esoteric knowledge.

They ain't Christians because their level of reasoning well developed and they can detect lies better than the Christians.

ebenice:
only a confuse dude would say a nice dude will misinform

He is nice and guilible. He teaches innocent people that god is in the sky, Jesus died for them and other rediculous stories. Kumuyi is not knowledgeable at all. Does he think the aliens called god by the King James distorted bible are really gods ? It's a shame he's been allowed to deceive many. You all can throw stones at me all you want for stating the obvious.

hisgrace090:
Dady kumuyi, ever faithful, ever sure.

But lacks knowledge. All his teachings are pure misinformation, but he is a nice dude to be fair.

butterflylion:
What is your position on the existence of the supernatural and is there any difference in terminology in between the atheists who believe in the supernatural and those who don't?

Atheism is, in my estimation, the lack of belief in God or gods but is that where it stops? Are there atheists who venture outside this caged definition here on nairaland? If there are, I wonder if there is a term for such people and a different term for those people who don't believe in any supernatural existence, not just the disbelief in deities.

I have heard a number of atheists say they do believe in something mystic, albeit not any deity.

For purposes of this discussion, when I say "supernatural" I mean outside of the nature. When I say "nature" I mean Dark matter, dark energy, any other known and unknown components of nature, any possible parrallel universes and everything else that exists in the natural order.

So if as an atheist you believe in ghosts, spirits, or anything you term as supernatural but not a diety let's all have a chat.

"Supernatural" based on individual level of knowledge. We tend to term things beyond our knowledge and expectations " Supernatural" but everything is natural. Ignorance is the only problem.

Athiesm itself is born out of rebellion against organised religion/ programmed, mis-education on the term " God". Because our human societies have been severely misinformed on topics about Gods, demons, ghosts etc , it is normal to find some people react differently to such beliefs and dissociat themselves from such and rather look for evidence. This is a typical human feature that we share with other life forms.

However, it doesn't mean people who term themselves Athiest have the right information,but at least they ain't buying an obvious rediculous interpretation from religious leaders. This is how far Athiesm has gone,but it is still a very primitive idea.......otherwise our human history and academical lessons also need to be questioned. Perhaps such people would have to come by another name/ title.

Personally I feel Athiesm will evolve from just destroying organised lying religious empires to actually rectifying,repairing and solving them. Knowledge will be gained and terms like Ghosts, God, parallel universes, energy bubbles, extradimensional beings will be fully understood. With the way people's minds have been wrongfully misinformed, any other ideas is wrong. But we must not see anything as " supernatural " because we do not understand them but natural because nature is vast.

701ecilana:
So says the certified demon possessed.

*^#¥

Demons are your creation. You are can only be your own demons based on what you belief.

johnydon22:
I am not taking sides boss, after all it has been a very long time i myself left the said group.

i was only pointing out the words here as i read them, i do not know who invited who or who, i am just pointing out based on what i read each person say.

i trust you understand that.

Lol true that



hmmmm

It's okay brother. The screenshot I posted was him talking me into joining his chat group the 2nd time. I had already left the group a few month before that. Anyway I wish him well, no hard feelings.

johnydon22:
He said he never reinvited you not never invited you.. Mind the two words, hardly same.

please don't take sides. Not only did he invite me again, he made me a mod. It's no big deal anyway, it's only a chat group where they talk all day. Due to exposing my number there I attracted a few scam artists asking me for postcodes and email.

hahn:
So childish you joined and left 3 times



I never reinvited you. Whoever did probably had their reasons



Hahahaha. Biatch!



Oh please. The word you are looking for is emotional and not intelligent



Who you epp? Kuro lori ago mi mehn

I shouldn't be trading words with you. But what started as a mutual invite turns out to be something you deny. Well, I'm not surprised. Of what use was your "thinkers lodge" group to me ? I joined and noticed you chatted unintelligently and I decided to leave. Too many alerts on my phone was disturbing and I saw no point seeing irrelevant conversations. You even added me again and I left again as it wasn't my kind of chat group. Next time delete your chats if you gonna lie you never invited me. Whatever it is you hold against me,let it go. Beefing me will not solve your problems. Relax,inhale,exhale, enjoy life, make love, lose some weight....... I'm not your problem.

hahn:
I don't think you can have a sane and intellectual argument anywhere. The only place I enjoy discussions these days in on Thinker's Lodge, a whatsapp group for nairaland atheists, but that place is not for the faint of heart. People who are emotional like ifeness, who has left the group 3 times, cannot seem to handle the emotional stress of having a discussion with people who criticize everything

But I love it!

I'm not being arrogant, but your chat group was like demoting myself 7 classes lower, shifting 700 years back in time and having childish discussions with farmers. Sorry I had to leave even when you re-invited me several times. No disrespect to the guys there(some nice guys and ladies on there) but you are one dumb fellow. I would not give in depth analysis on how childish your discussions were. The conversations were so uneducative, I would rather watch paint dry. To you that is a chat group of intelligent discussions, to me it was pathetic. I can put you through intelligent chat groups where you could actually meet quality people and learn only if you will learn to keep your mouth shut and stop arguing blindly. A lot of your questions shows a complete lack of understanding. You are as brainwashed as the people you criticise.

I do not dislike you in any way but someone had to tell you the truth.

Fake News....and it is a shame you don't know it.

GrandFinale2017:
i'll locate ur shrine at Benin City and I'll destroy it and set all ur idols on fire

You mean he doesn't have the right to practice what he believes in just as you do ?

This question doesn't exist and it shows you misunderstand how life works. God is everything, it is your very self, so your question is based on ignorance.

I am God everyday.

OLUJOSHINS:
God's decision to be quiet and loving should not be mistaken for weakness.

And which of the advertised gods are you talking about. God means power, not an objectified being. You are God because you can have access to your hidden power. Juju is only a tool for you to use if you wish.

edicied:
So a kind of Cosmic religion?

Perhaps. Don't forget religion is similar to a cult,an association, a gang of people who share the same ideas. It will always be around but with better explanation of our world/ universes

How many politicans will take anti corruption oaths with juju? None. But they will happily use the religious books because they know they ain't effective. Juju is all about manipulating Enegy fields to create illusions. Since life itself is an illusion, it is also a branch of Juju. Don't let limited school books belittle the potency of Juju( Ancient Alchemy)

Everyone practice juju in different forms, we just don't know it. Maybe the word " juju" is the problem, because it sounds primitive and has been left in the hands of the illiterates. How were the pyramids built? Perhaps with surphisticated Juju ( levitation). It is a shame all these knowledge are lost and replaced with low level science books.

Martinez19:
I want to know the answer to this question. Sometimes, I doubt if religion will ever die. People hang on to it as it it is their life support.

It will be reformed into pure Astrological, psychological, mental knowledge in the form of Advanced Science. Religion is only a surface of a deeper body of knowledge.

God is the most misunderstood word/idea. It has been humanised,emotionalised,objectified my many.......but is everything the religionists describe...the creator,the intelligent designer, the beginning, end, Alpha,omega etc, which is US ALL. But until humanity know this, there will always be confusion and distortion of the idea called God.

To those calling God a lie, well your stand is often a rebellion to the distorted information of what religion says God is. The idea that a God watches your every moves, created you, will judge you,needs your tithes and offering are simply distorted informations, distorted metaphorical meaning of God. Those in the know are aware that Man himself/ herself is a fabric of possibilities, but to control him,his true identity must be falsified, they tell him he is a mere mortal is a sinner who needs to worship a father in heaven. These are all lies, but it is your challenge to rediscover your essence......your God Essence which you, the creator of your illusion.

Until man wakes up to his true identity, he will always see himself as inferior to a created God. Until the slaves sees himself as an equal to his "supposed" master, he will always see himself as a slave who must obey and serve. To see oneself lesser to a God is a slave mentality.

What is it with all these labels and tags ? No one is anything and yet everything

AlvanT:
How can I initiate a quantum jump Sir? cos I'm almost battling depression right now.

Circumstances don't matter, only your state of mind does. Depression is a negative choice to allow the illusion control your state of being. My advice to you is simple : be happy regardless of your situation and the negative will fade away. The trick about shifting from a negative to a positive outcome is to act like you already have what you wish for. Live as if you have that brilliant job, be happy with no expectations. Fake it to make it real.

It is very possible for this to happen. Anyone one who understands how quantum jump/ quantum shift works, will know what the girls experienced is not a buzzare experience.

Knowing that there many, millions, billions of versions of ourselves living in the now.... We can exercise some energy pulls that will shift us to an alternate realities where we are the same person/ persons, but in different circumstances. Example, a man trapped in a burning house can experience a shift that will change his circumstance, he thereby finds himself in a safe building. Life is deep, it takes a lot to understand it. Miracles are normal experiences to some people while it is supernatural to others.

The pastor did not do it but he initiated the energy pull that triggered the change in blood type. All things are God, hence miracles are always happening.....or I could also say our everyday lives are happening miracles.

Sin is derogatory term used by primitive and ill-educated minds. IVF has been around for eons of time lines. Even your Jesus was a product of IVF, why call it a sin? I think by saying sin, you mean "evil", " wrong" etc

A born again cannot lose his salvation...... I actually do agree with that phrase to a much expanded and well informed view. A changed man is a changed man provided he stayed that way. But I doubt anyone needs salvation because no one is in bondage. It's only a case of seeing life from a different angles or......being in alignment with your " true self".

"If any man be in Christ, he a new creature, old things have passed away and all become new" is nothing but a metaphor that is not acknowledged by pastors, in churches due to limited knowledge of its meaning. Instead they teach about Jesus being the saviour,which is nothing but fake news