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Then you can say imagine Nigeria without the guys blowing up the oil pipelines. I'm sure they ain't Muslims.

Proudlyngwa:
What is the essence of living.
If all leads to death without any reward or punishment, why don't I just end it now( note I have no intention of ending it now) .
Why do I have to bring kids into this world if the end product is be born, eat sleep, grow, work ,reproduce, grow old and die.
What really is the essence of living.

Please let this be from a logical point, not a religious point.


Modified .
This is about a discussion I overheard some people saying all die na die.
While someone saying he would rather die young than go through the pain and humiliation of old age because essentially after everything he would still die.
Ironically he is a medical practitioner.

You are not being yourself if you do things for rewards. You are basically a reward prostitute.

In order to enhance the minds of a barbaric people,rewards are often promised them to make good behavior a pattern. Like the Oni of Ife granting rewards for the cleanest street in Ile Ife. It is just to make sure people keep the street tidy....and when they get used to keeping it clean,rewards probably gets withdrawn.

The reason for gods in religion is to keep people in check. The fear of the unseen eyes of a deity watching you when no one is there puts fear in lots of people,helps them behave as if all eyes were watching them

But death is only an end to a certain journey,which happens when the body stops functioning well.....no big deal,no reward needed.

It is ignorant of anyone based in Nigeria to claim there are no humans who have access to upgraded human abilities(witches/wizards) Going to special schools shouldn't result in total ignorance. Physics,Chemistry,Biology,Mathematics etc should be tools to understanding the phenomenon of wizardry,Alchemy etc not total delusion. When a person claims there is no possible way a human can develop more than the normal 5 senses,that person has lost the plot regardless of what he/she has achieved.

Atheism is a only a disbelieve in a supreme deity, apart from that opinions are different.

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



Who told you THAT?

. JOHN 6:35-63.

35. And Jesus said unto them,
“I am The Bread of Life. He that cometh to Me shall never Hunger, and he that believeth in Me shall never Thirst.
36. "But I said unto you that ye also have seen Me, and believe not.
37. "All that The Father giveth Me shall come to Me, and him that cometh to Me I will in no wise cast out.
38. "For I came down from Heaven, not to do Mine own will, but The Will of Him that sent Me.
39. "And this is The Father’s Will who hath sent Me, that of all which He hath given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the Last Day.
40 And this is The Will of Him that sent Me: that every one who seeth the Son and believeth in Him may have Everlasting Life, and I will raise him up at the Last Day.”
41. The Jews then murmured at Him, because He said,
“I am The Bread which came down from Heaven.”
42. And they said,
“Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How is it then that he saith,
‘I came down from Heaven?' "
43. Jesus therefore answered and said unto them,
“Murmur not among yourselves.
44. "No man can come to Me unless the Father who hath sent Me draw him; and I will raise him up at the Last Day.
45. "It is written in the Prophets:
‘And they shall all be taught by God.’
Every man therefore that hath heard and hath learned from The Father cometh unto Me.
46. "Not that any man hath seen The Father, save He that is of God; He hath seen the Father.
47. "Verily, verily I say unto you,
'He that believeth in Me hath Everlasting Life.'
48. "I am that Bread of Life.
49. "Your fathers ate manna in the Wilderness, and are dead.
50. "This is the Bread which cometh down from Heaven, that a man may eat thereof and not die.
51. "I am The Living Bread which came down from Heaven. If any man eat of this Bread, he shall live for ever; and the Bread that I will give is My flesh, which I will give for the Life of the World.”
52. The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying,
“How can this man give us his flesh to eat?”
53 Then Jesus said unto them,
“Verily, verily I say unto you,
'Unless ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man
and drink His blood, ye have no life in you.'
54. "Whoso eateth my flesh and drinketh My blood hath Eternal Life,
and I will raise him up at the Last Day.
55. "For my flesh is Meat indeed, and my blood is Drink indeed.
56. "He that eateth my flesh and drinketh My blood dwelleth in Me, and I in him.
57. "As The Living Father hath sent Me, and I live by The Father,
so he that eateth Me, even he shall live by Me.
58. "This is that Bread which came down from Heaven,
not as your fathers ate manna and are dead; he that eateth of this Bread shall live for ever.”
59. These things said He in the Synagogue as He taught in Capernaum.
60. Many of His Disciples therefore, when they had heard this, said,
“This is a hard saying; who can hear it?”
61. When Jesus knew in Himself that His Disciples murmured at it, he said unto them,
“Doth this offend you?
62. "What if ye shall see the Son of Man ascend up where He was before?
63. "It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing.
The Words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

YAHSHUA SAID THAT HEAVEN IS A PLACE.

He came from there.

He went back there.

Your Fantasy does not work.



How would someone like YOU know?

. MATTHEW 25:31-46.

31. "When The Son of Man
shall come in his Glory,
and all the Holy Angels with him,
then shall he sit upon
The Throne of his Glory:
32. "And before him
shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate
them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth
his sheep from the goats:
33. "And he shall set the sheep
on his right hand,
but the goats on the left.
34. "Then shall the King say
unto them on his right hand,

'COME, YE BLESSED OF MY FATHER,
INHERIT THE KINGDOM
PREPARED FOR YOU
FROM THE FOUNDATION
OF THE WORLD:
35. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED,
AND YE GAVE ME MEAT:
I WAS THIRSTY,
AND YE GAVE ME DRINK:
I WAS A STRANGER,
AND YE TOOK ME IN:
36. 'NAKED, AND YE CLOTHED ME:
I WAS SICK,
AND YE VISITED ME:
I WAS IN PRISON,
AND YE CAME UNTO ME.'

37. Then shall the Righteous
answer him, saying,

'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE
AN HUNGRED,
AND FED THEE?
OR THIRSTY,
AND GAVE THEE DRINK?
38. 'WHEN SAW WE THEE
A STRANGER,
AND TOOK THEE IN?
OR NAKED,
AND CLOTHED THEE?
39. 'OR WHEN SAW WE THEE
SICK,
OR IN PRISON,
AND CAME UNTO THEE?'

40. "And the King shall answer
and say unto them,

'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU,

"INASMUCH AS YE HAVE DONE IT
UNTO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE
MY BRETHREN,
YE HAVE DONE IT
UNTO ME." '

41. "Then shall he say also
unto them on the left hand,

'DEPART FROM ME,
YE CURSED,
INTO EVERLASTING FIRE,
PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL
AND HIS ANGELS:
42. 'FOR I WAS AN HUNGRED,
AND YE GAVE ME NO MEAT:
I WAS THIRSTY,
AND YE GAVE ME NO DRINK:
43. 'I WAS A STRANGER,
AND YE TOOK ME NOT IN:
NAKED, AND YE CLOTHED ME NOT:
SICK, AND IN PRISON,
AND YE VISITED ME NOT.'

44. "Then shall they also
answer him, saying,

'LORD, WHEN SAW WE THEE
AN HUNGRED, OR ATHIRST,
OR A STRANGER, OR NAKED,
OR SICK, OR IN PRISON,
AND DID NOT MINISTER
UNTO THEE?'

45. "Then shall he answer them, saying,

'VERILY I SAY UNTO YOU,

"INASMUCH AS YE DID IT NOT
TO ONE OF THE LEAST OF THESE,
YE DID IT NOT TO ME." '

46. "And these shall go away
into Everlasting Punishment:
but the Righteous into Life Eternal."



Like YOU.

. MARK 7:6-7.

6. He answered and said unto them,
"Well hath Esaias prophesie
of you hypocrites, as it is written,

'This people honoureth me with their lips,
but their heart is far from me.
7. 'Howbeit in vain do they worship me,
Teaching for Doctrines the commandments of men.' "



[color=#ffffff].[/color] MATTHEW 16:13-20.

13. When Jesus came
into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi,
he asked his Disciples, saying,
"Whom do men say that I
The Son of Man am?"
14. And they said,
"Some say that thou
art John the Baptist:
some, Elias;
and others, Jeremias,
or one of the Prophets."
15. He saith unto them,
"But whom say ye that I am?"
16. And Simon Peter answered and said,
"Thou art the Christ,
The Son of The Living God."
17. And Jesus answered and said unto him,
"Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona:
for Flesh and Blood hath not
Revealed It unto thee,
but my Father
Which is in Heaven.
18. "And I say also unto thee,

'THAT THOU ART PETER,
AND UPON UPON THIS ROCK
I WILL BUILD MY CHURCH;
AND THE GATES OF HELL
SHALL NOT PREVAIL IT.'

19. "And I will give unto thee
The Keys of The Kingdom of Heaven:
and whatsoever
thou shalt bind on Earth
shall be bound in Heaven:
and whatsoever
thou shalt loose on Earth
shall be loosed in Heaven."
20. Then charged he his Disciples
that they should tell no man
that he was Jesus The Christ.

TTHE IDEA OF CHURCH CAME FROM YAHSHUA- WHICH YOU SAY IS A "FALSE IDEA."



The CHRISTIANS Yahshua will one day send to HELL and has been sending to Hell were surely "happy," like YOU are!

. DEUTERONOMY 29:18-20.

18. Lest there should be among you
man, or woman, or family, or tribe,
whose heart turneth away this day
vrom the LORD our God,
to go and serve the gods of these nations;
lest there should be among you
a root that beareth gall and wormwood;
19. And it come to pass,
when he heareth the Words of this Curse,
that he bless himself in his heart, saying,

"I shall have Peace,
though I walk
in the imagination of mine heart,
to add drunkenness to thirst:"

20. The LORD will not spare him,
but then the anger of The LORD
and his jealousy shall smoke against that man,
and all the Curses that are
written in this Book shall lie upon him,
and the LORD shall blot out
his name from under Heaven.

THEREFORE, YOUR IMAGINARY DOCTRINE, THAT MAKES YOU SO "HAPPY," NOW, WILL CONDUCT YOU TO RUIN.

Everything you quoted is are metaphors you do not understand. The "kingdom of heaven" is in you not out there in the stars. It is a Nigerian mentality not to know these simple clues. You have a long way to go

Can imagination exist without a mind? A Universe is a product of the Mind. The creator and the Universe are one,OP

LoJ:
I'm not in Nigeria, but from what I gather here, it's a Ponzi scheme, new in Nigeria, which promises high ROI to nigerians. A lot of them are investing their money there, due to the recession. And of course, up to now, the system has not (yet) crumbled.

Oh I see! That's risky tho. Thanks for the explanation.

What is MMM?

Onechancearmy:
Get real my friend. Alchemy (like parapsychology) is a discredited incredbly flawed field of knowledge. No scientist worth his salt would take seriously a fly by night "science" like Alchemy.
As for voodoo being mind control, it only seems to control the minds of the ignorant. The really intelligent is governed by logic and empiricsm.
Your "faith" in voodoo is evidence of the quality of intellect you possess. It places you at the lowest end of the cognitive scale.

Like Christianity does to sheeples like you. You pay tithe and offering because of what you heard , not what you know. How dumb you lot are !

naijadeyhia:
Scroll up! I am open to discussing aliens and voodoo with you. At least lets dwell on something you are so sure of.

Read what I recently posted.

Onechancearmy:
Voodoo to me is childish, primitive, prelogical and the surest stamp of ignorance you can find in a human being.
Kindly establish a link between voodoo and rationality otherwise YOU are the one who is a level 1 pupil.

Voodoo is the original form of alchemy. Voodoo is advance physics and those in the know use it without you knowing. The big politicians and media of Europe know theses stuff. The act of using the illusion of promises to get votes alone is an act of Voodoo( mind control). The media knows that if they keep feeding the audience a particular info repeatedly they will create a matrix of what they want.

Voodoo is all about mind control and manipulation of Energy. We are made up of Energy( I doubt you know that). And voodoo is only a name for the art of manipulating humans are are pure Energy

The grass root of illiterate voodoo priest in Africa are making voodoo look like it belongs to illustrates. The Library of Egypt was the most sort after because it contained ancient Voodoo( Al Kermit or Alchemy)

naijadeyhia:
Ahh they are filing out. Nahh i will pass on the offer. Been around long enough to hear about that conspiracy theory. Not all garbage is meant to be read you know.

Doesn't the story of a son of a carpenter nailed to a cross for a sin a conspiracy theory? Have you ever wondered if a Jewish dude could die for you?

GrizzlyBear:
Nice book. I'll purchase it immediately.

I actually bought it few mins ago. I posted it on snap chat and a friend wanted it.

Onechancearmy:
Would this be the ifenes who believes in voodoo and aliens? Is this the person who's taken it upon himself to speak on behalf of atheism? !?
If ifenes is an atheist, then TB Joshua is Albert Einstein!

Some things are beyond you no doubt. You will notice I hardly comments on deluded posts like this as I now know I'm talking to level 1 pupils. Voodoo to you is devilish and magic, to me its normal and only hidden knowledge of human abilities and experiences.

If you will let me I will re-explain the bible to you and show you how it has got nothing to do with Christianity

OP, before you defend a Cult, be sure to have investigated it before defending it. I can say you don't know what Christianity actually means other than what the man in the pulpit tells you every Sundays.

Please investigate and learn to question your beliefs before condemning others

Me in the book store now getting this book. OP give it a read.

Heaven is not a place. It is a state one can achieve with a deciplined mind.

Alien visitation maybe. You must have fathered lots of hybrid kids.

Basically more members more tithes. The Tithes and offering belongs to the pastor then,not god. This is quite revealing.

lakesidepapa:
Despite having astrological books in ur shef, u are still wrong and that's what i was trying to clear u. I know astrological more than anything in this world, and i counsel people with the aid of it. Sweet dreams.!

You don't even know me that well to think you know more that me... You might be right

lakesidepapa:
U have the ball to argue with me. I'm a psychologist, I have being reading Astrological, Palm-history and foot-history books since i was 13. Sighting and reading someone alone will show me the Zodiac sign he or she belongs to, this is not new to me.

I don't care what you studied or what you are. I can only judge you by what you say.

lakesidepapa:
It's wrong.. It's not that way. Leo is from july 23 to August 23 while Virgo is from August 24 to Sep 24.

Leos have Leadership trait while Virgo is very intellectual, I happened to be a Virgo(August 25) and my Virgo trait is stronger than that of my Virgo friend who was born on Sep 12. The early a day fall into it's Zodiac sign, the stronger it's. Go and study Zodiac signs very well, Real and strong Virgo are born between 24th of Aug to 29th of Aug.

Why should I argue with you? I have many Astrological books on my shelf..... please enjoy the thread.

So basically he admitted Church is a business you can invest £250 in and reap millions.

I am speaking to you now. Stop tribal hate!

Gaggi:
My Friend Is Putting Me In A Tight Situation

My very close colleague and friend and I work in the same office. He relocated his family out of town almost a year ago, the wife traveled for further studies. He has a lovely wife, really good woman and two lovely kids. I also live with my family. We used to visit each other and our kids played together while they were around.

The issue now is he now keeps a steady girl. The girl cannot hold a light close to anywhere near his wife. The wife beats her in terms of beauty, class, intelligence, fashion, attitude, just name it.

At first i didn't talk when i saw them together. Felt it was a casual fling, he probably was lonely and needed a little company. However, he now takes her everywhere, friends houses, colleagues parties etc. I have warned him severally but he keeps telling me he'll look for the right time to let her go. He's been saying this for more than 6 months now. He even confessed that they do have unprotected sex occasionally, especially when they are both drunk and she has said she'll kill him and kill herself if he leaves her for another girl.

I hate to see my friend destroy a beautiful family. I don't know what to do to save him. I don't have his wife's number, even if i did, telling her might result to breaking the marriage instead of saving it. For now, all i do is just pray for him. Anybody with any brilliant ideas?

You should mind your business.

hoyinmide:
bro pls give it to Him

There is no him outside me, it all about me not being ignorant of my true-self. It's all about me,myself and I

Give your life to yourself.... makes sense

lakesidepapa:
Leo and Virgo are August.

Leo is strongest in August and Virgo is strongest in September

NO! Whoever told you that is only trying to manipulate you to part with your hard earned money.

Firstly we must understand that Jesus symbolized an embodiment of truth and yes Jesus is the messiah. The Bible is one of many books that tells us about the "I am" or "We are" the way and path to our God nature. Jesus is a symbol of many thing and representing an individual is one of them.

In John 14:6,it claimed Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but through Me.” That is “probably the most exclusive statement ever made by anyone. This was also written in "first person singular" even when we know Jesus was a metaphor. Salvation is in the individual. We are our own salvation and this can only be achieved by being aware and shifting from being ignorant and uncivilized to becoming a better and transformed individual who is tolerant and loves his neighbor as his/herself...because you must have gotten the understanding that your neighbor is only another version of you.

I am not against people saying jesus is the son of god as long as they understand that they are talking about themselves.

" Lion of the tribe of Judah" is an astrological metaphor for saying the Sun shines the brightest in August. Leo is August and the Sun in Europe is at its warmest in August. This is one of the many Astrological symbols in the Bible.

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felixomor:
U didnt answer my first question though.

Because it was a stupid question