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Jesus( real name Yeshua) was only a guy who was intunned to his true self and was different to the people around him. If you think different to others, they easily see you as an outcast and will most likely eradicated you especially when you question customary beliefs. This happens in every generation. It's got nothing to do with being prophet or god. Just a normal guy who happened to be much more enlightened than his peers

LightandDarkness:
Because no one actually said hallucinations dont exist, at least no "so called atheist"

Atheist is no one's name.

benzics:
Lol.. who said hallucinations don't exist?

I didn't mention names

KingEbukaNaija:
A human also invented all these theories you are peddling because he chose to see things differently, there's nothing spectacular about it anyway . I fully understand what "Prime Radiant" is , and the theory is suffused with flaws and assumptions.

Anyway , its your life bro , just don't be dogmatic that's all

It is one of my unlimited amount of lives. If you understood the Prime Radiant theory you won't give a negative comment.

What are the flaws if I may ask? Do you base your comments on other people's opinion or what you think for yourself? You can not grow intellectually if you don't have your own mind.

How educated are the so called " Athiests" ? We havd billions of parallel universes where everything is possible. Anyone who says certain stuff don't exist need to tell us how many percentage of their brain capacity they use first. Then they can tell us how they got to know that there is no possible way hullication can't exist.

KingEbukaNaija:
You atheists with so called esoteric knowledge are peddling panentheism . Examine the emboldened text with panentheitic views .

Humans invented God because the misrepresented their true self as God. This God I'm talking about is me and you. I had to use the noun " God" for a low vibrating mind to understand.

God is lower level understanding of you and me. The term "Prime Radiant" obviously confuses you, this is why I use God instead for a lame man to understand. This is no Panentheitic view.

Usually I use more advance terminology when I discuss this topic with someone of advanced mindset.

The Church should be about the study Self in ones kingdom and how to harness one's hidddn potential, not to be indoctrinated. The real Church is your body and the Temple is your brain connecting your mind to give the body good energy to function well.

KingEbukaNaija:
Here right here is an acceptance of an immaterial realm which is infinite and transcendent . Just add that the source of knowledge behind the existence of the material world comes from a transcendent being which we call God . The immaterial or transcendent realm is part of this separate conscious entity or transcendent being which is God . And the material world could just be a manifestation of Itself .

The Artist and his paintings are one. Michael Jackson and his songs are one. His song are a reflection of his mind....God and the Universe are one. The Universe is a reflection of God. If the Universe is not in order,the God Mind is not in order. So when people say pray to God to help us,it simply means God is facing difficulties too. The man in the mirror is the reflection of the man looking into the mirror. ...how can it help itself if not by looking inward and make his world better. God is not outside of you,it is you.

KingEbukaNaija:
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Wait ... just hold on . Since we are replications of the Prime Radiant then why do have individual consciousness and not connected to a source of consciousness ? That is , one consciousness controlling us all .

A typical fan has three blades right? But depending on the speed of the fan they appear to be unlimited. But lets assume this fan has one blade,when it spins at a high speed it covers all angel of the circumference right?

A typical example is the hall of mirrors. If you stand in it,it will picture you in hundreds of angles on different mirrors....one of those many mirrors which are all reflections of you can be individualized. But it is still you but one of many you. We are the unlimited reflections of the One.

You must be enjoying FIFA 17 huh

Yes I play FIFA 17!

KingEbukaNaija:
The Prime Radiant story was developed by a self acclaimed 5th dimensional being called Bashar . According to the story , the Prime Radiant replicated itself by imagination - pretense in fact .It pretended to be a copy of itself by imagination .There is a conspicuous flaw in the basis of theory because the Prime Radiant had no knowledge since there was nothing that precedes it but through the knowledge of itself , it was able to replicate itself . Now how did it derive the propensity to make an exact copy of itself . Where did it get that idea to replicate itself from since there was no knowledge that precedes it just the knowledge of itself ?

And through replicating itself here and there through imagination , it created time and space . Seriously bro ?

It's good to see that you are making research on what I said and to know I am not manufacturing them. But when the mind is tuned in the right frequency,it will resonate with similar minds on the same frequencies. I have listened to Bashar and I do agree with his philosophies. What is there not to agree with as long as he is not telling you what to think.

It is not the job of the brain to explain the Mind. It should be the other way round. You have a mind right? You religious teacher taught you that God is the cause of the Universe and God is everywhere......and here Bashar is saying that The Prime Radiant is everywhere and is not only the cause of the Universe but indeed the Universe and all that is in it. "That is the Hidden Knowledge". When Atheists request for the beginning of God or the evidence that God creates the Universe,what do you say?...... This is a question no one with a religious mind can answer because if they agree that they are indeed the creator of their realities then the Supreme God they look up to will disappear.

However,it doesn't matter what Bashar says he is,I think it is about what he says. The bottle is insignificant but the content is all that matters. Same way the Jesus(whether real or not) is not important but the message. Religion worships the messenger while the wise goes through the message. Spot the difference!

KingEbukaNaija:
What dimensions ? What unlimited possibilities ? You are in a finite universe which will witness the cessation of your soul and itself so how would you connect to these dimensions and unlimited possibilities . How would you circumvent these constraints ?

Dimensions are tiny bits of existence. We experience a finite Universe from an infinite source. The Source is infinite....one movie ends,another will start,no big deal. The more aware you are the more your individual consciousness expands and you will begin to see that life is but a game being played by you on a different level.

The game of life is funny. The creator creates the game and plays by the rules,goes through the game difficulties and even gets stuck in it. He may survive or die in his game....and once the game is over,he restarts his PS4, begins another game.

KingEbukaNaija:
The material world has a beginning and a cause , every spirit incarnate and its spirit have a beginning and the end to reincarnation is the destruction of the spirit , so how are we as humans (spirit incarnates ) the Gods we worship ?

How can consciousness exist eternally when the material world started 15 billion years ago ?

The material world is an end product of the immaterial. The everlasting one whose main attributes includes to experience and be aware of the solidified imaginations. The creator of all things is the Prime Radiant. One particle vibrating at an unlimited speed and since it is unlimited and infinite,it becomes everything and is everywhere. It becomes the moon,stars,you,me and the Universe. This is why it is said that God is the one and all. The first and last,the beginning and the end. It is all things and therefor experiencing itself as all things.

So when you talk about souls,spirits,reincarnation etc they are all attributes of God. So each time I say I am a God,you should understand that I am looking at a much bigger picture than religion has painted. I am God and so are you Ebuka

The material world is within Consciousness and is only a tiny part of it. Actually,Time doesn't even exist. Everything is Now. Time is an illusion that makes it seem like you are in motion....but Motion itself doesn't exist. It is only one PARTICLE acting like the many.The Prime Radiant.

KingEbukaNaija:
Gnoticism ?

Anyway , have you done this before , is it possible? : https://www.nairaland.com/3064187/christians-dialectic-telekinesis-gods-given

Tell me what you think

To be honest,I don't follow the Gnostic books or teachings. I think I know the hidden codes behind books,music videos and movies. I could tell you the hidden codes in The Weekend's music video called "Star Boy". I am generally good with codes and puzzles.

But if what I say tallies with the Gnostic teachings,that means I vibrate at a similar frequency as they do. I try to explain to people that Christians call God is an activated human mind who is psychologically open to other dimensions and unlimited possibilities. I don't know if the Gnostics think like this too. I don't have a label,just as my Inner self is nothing and everything.

KingEbukaNaija:


What in God's name is this

What is this foreign knowledge you posses called ?

Give it any name you wish Ebuka. Your pastors don't know these that's why they cannot teach you that you are the God you worship in their churches.

KingEbukaNaija:
In summary , marriage between two makes them one flesh , and being married to Christ means being in oneness with God - a perfection of your relationship with God and we shall be with God forever and ever in Heaven which is actually here on earth .

You meant oneness to the Christ Consciousness right? Christ is said to the opposite of Satan,which is metaphorically the same as Positive and Negative polarities. Both are needed for balance right? And if you are married to Jesus,which is an esoteric symbol of a human with positive energy you can expand and reach "God"(Your true-self). Satan is the Ego Mind,or negative energy to pulls you away from being yourself. All metaphors Ebuka.

You said Heaven is here on Earth,well actually it is a state you pass true or you can decide to be based on how you maintain the scale of balance. It is not a place as the song said but a state of mind.


So next time you sing that song,remember it is a metaphor and not a real place Otherwise if you think like a typical christian I will call you gay for actually picturing yourself getting married to Jesus

KingEbukaNaija:
Here : http://reknew.org/2014/08/what-does-it-mean-to-be-married-to-christ/

Ebuka explain the lyrics to me and stop posting links. Make use of your intelligent mind and stop posting links please!

KingEbukaNaija:
It is used metaphorically

Wow !!! Just wow !!

Smh

Really?? That means Heaven is used metaphorically too,including the Garden of Eden and all the stuff you are taught in Sunday school

So please lets see the song's lyrics " I'm married to Jesus,Satan leave me alone(x2) My husband is coming to take me away,to everlasting home".....please explain it metaphorically Ebuka?

KingEbukaNaija:


I am not gay , stay away from me !!!

Are you annoyed that I refused your advances

I rebuke you

Would you rather stay close to Jesus? Don't you always sing that song that says "I'm married to Jesus"?

How do you know you ain't gay? You must have tried it to know that I suppose

I am everyone in another version Ebuka. I am you and everyone on nairaland,so in a way I am all the accounts on nairaland as you said. I own multiple accounts because I do not have a life. My aim is to argue with my many selves for the sake of it. I log into kingEbukaNaija whenever I feel confused,Hot and feel like touching myself

GrizzlyBear:
Intellectual honesty demands that we be sincere in all our contemplation and discussions about ourselves and our world, despite the perceived bleakness or harshness of the truth. It demands that we present a version of this truth, that is unbiased and unadulterated.

When examining the issue of our existence, we should also parse this timeless and cardinal subject with the tools of intellectual honesty.

When one accepts the non-existence of God, he has also tacitly subscribed to the notion of the objective meaninglessness of human existence. Because if God does not exist, then human existence has no objective meaning. Objective meaning in this context signifies a universally all encompassing truth about the reason for our existence.

It means that we are basically just biological creatures, jettisoned into this small, inconsequential planet in a galaxy among infinite galaxies, to live, pass on our genes, and die. We are practically just vessels for genes and proliferation of life. And everything that happens in our lives, is just a vain endless struggle for survival. It means that the universe doesn't care about us and everything that happens in our world is futile and of no inherent meaning.

A nonexistence of an objective meaning for our existence also suggests a nonexistence of objective morality. It means that there is no universal, axiomatic set of moral principles, and our definition and notions of morality, are relative and subjective.

Anyone who arrives at this philosophical realization, would definitely feel a painful sting of despair. Such understanding could engender a cascade of negative feelings that could prompt such a person to give up on life. Undoubtedly, the understanding of the objective meaninglessness of life and the futility of human existence, is the heaviest intellectual burden for man to shoulder.

But still, there are two ways humans can deal with this grim existential realization and loosen the burden.
We could embrace the objective meaninglessness of life, and create a subjective one for ourselves, or we could lapse into denial, and supplant the truth with consoling lies. History has shown that man has always preferred the second option, not to say that the first option is the logical one to take. Actually, both options are illogical. The first option at it's face, seems like a fulfilling substitute, but is it? Of course not. It's not fulfilling. It never is. It's cowardice and a bashful attempt to circumvent the realities of truth. It's deciding to live a hedonistic existence of vain delusion and comforting untruths.

Proponents of the first option tend to emphasize living in the present and enjoying it's benefits. But can we actually enjoy this present? The present presents it's share of pain and despair, which in most cases eclipses the intermittent ephemeral happiness. Given the unremitting presence of the agonizing existential understanding of the futility of our lives and the acknowledgement of it's bleak end, and the immanate vanity of the actions that precede it, the present will always be a sad, painful experience, interspersed with horrifying uncertainties.

Humans have the natural tendency to develop hostility towards anything that threatens their sense of self. We have been hard wired with the aptitude to develop resentment for things that tend to lower how we perceive ourselves. The realization that we are experiencing an existence of no objective meaning, lowers our sense of self. It portrays us as objects with no real purpose, no different from animals we perceive as inferior creatures. The default reaction to a notion like this, is complete rejection, and the creation of a framework that persistently reinforces this rejection. The most efficient framework that bolsters this rejection, is the framework of religion.

The framework of religion is so effective because it reinforces the rejection of the futility of our existence, by claiming for itself the objective meaning for human existence. It also solves the problem of the non existence of objective morality, as it provides a set "objective moral principles" for it's adherents to subscribe to.

Religion tends to the most difficult problem around existence and meaning, which is what happens after humans die. It does this by painting a dichotomous picture of the after life, one that is pleasing enough to entice people, but at the same time scary enough to elicit obedience and devotion.

In the face of our existential angst, religion seems a more preferable path to tread. It's an escape from the true horrors of reality and the agonizing acknowledgement of the futility of our existence. It gives people a reason to live. It gives people hope. It makes people feel special. Religion is truly the opium of the masses, because it helps alleviate their pain, by consoling and comforting them with dreams and hopes. It gives people a reason to be moral, a reason to do good. It's a rope that prevents people from falling into the torturing pits of truth.

Not everyone is intellectually strong to carry the weight of the acceptance of the objective meaninglessness of human existence. Some people are just weak and need religion to rescue them from shouldering this excrutiatingly heavy burden.

For this reason, religion will always exist and continue to persist. Despite the overwhelming avalanche of tenable arguments that will be put forward against it, despite the flaws and glaring contradictions that would be pointed, despite the overt negative effects that is observable in our society, religion will always have subscribers. People find it hard to let go of something that comforts them and makes them happy, and they will aggressively defend it against anything that tries to take it away from them, even reason.

Life is meaningless unless we had meaning to it. Add God to a Human and you get a Human-Being. God is the Prime Radient that makes up everything. The creator of all things which is the essence of a " Being" that contineues to make it to "Be" to infinity. This is what we all are. The One that experiences itself in different form( all of us). We all make up God.

Religion will always exist as long as Man remains illusionary disconnected from the God Mind. Religion is supposed to help reform Man or help point to the path of Godliness. And as long as Man remains on a level of self denial, delusion, he will always try to find God and will always be religious. The only way to destroy this unfortunate illusion is for Man to know himself, that he is the God he has been wrongly taught resides in the sky, but instead resides on the inside of him and yearns to be activated.

But Religion is a big time necessity for the Elite/ the wise ones to use as a tool to either positively reform man gradually before telling him to truth or a weapon of control to keep him away from activating his Higher Mind

But I am a positive minded individual. I think the thought of an unseen eyes watching you every moment has so far help reduce man's barbaric behaviours. Imagine the billions of Christians and Muslims not being under religious control.... It's not gonna be funny. Religion is a good tool to reform bad behaviours but the followers have always remained children and never adults who has grown to reach the path of illumination. A Christian will always be born again and will never become an adult.

Those who know the truth a very few and they are the secret societies most people see as Devils. They like it this way because no one likes Devils.

I see no problem with her being pregnant. But we know what her religion thinks of her, don't we?

If Christians will truly follow the teachings of the guy they claim to follow, no one will judge this lady throwing up bible verses but instead will love her.

Let's see what Christians think...

ashjay001:
How do u think, our consciousness came about?

"As far as I know" consciousness is uncreateble. Being aware of things has no beginning nor an end. Depending or regardless on the form it takes,consciousness will always be. Some people call it Enegry and some call it God. This is what we are made up of.

ashjay001:
If I might ask, how did u arrive at this? I've been finding my way towards this point, though, I still believe in a higher consciousness.

Thanks for the comment.

I have always had a curious mind and have passed through the toughest of religion from a younger age. I question everything into details. I read everything and will not condemn any theory without my personal investigation. I found out that religious teaching is made of encoded mysteries that only a level of human understanding can detect.

Basically I read the bible as a kid,youth and and Adult. I read books by philosophers like Kahlil Gibran,Alan Watts and many more. These guys were once like us caught up in the world of religion but had their own minds

A guy like Gandhi saying to the Christians,"I like your Christ but not Christians" showed he saw the bigger picture. All the guys tried to reform their people, and they did this by teaching them a different ways of thinking. Jesus spoke about the Kingdom of God being inside the human, same as other philosophers. The output can only be determined by what is inside,so this is why I focus on the Mind of an individual.

As for the higher Consciousness you mention, I will say you can be that high consciousness if you wish to. The fact that you think their is one means that is the level you need to be. We are called Human-Beings because our main attribute is to "be" and we can be anything we want as long as the mind is right.

KingEbukasBlog:
ifenes is truthman83

https://www.nairaland.com/3299206/exposed-truthman83-lied-deceived-nairalanders

I am you too

4kings:
Just like the Malleus Maleficarum was based on ignorance, and adherents to it, were based in the region, where it was believed wholeheartedly.
See any similarity?


The sixth sense is based on feelings.

I always distinguish between Science and Scientists. Natural Science is huge and expanding while scientists( those who study Natural science, the name they gave themselves) are way off the mark. They have developed artificial tools to investigate a natural environment. Obviously a lot of things will be alien to them. But what happens is they investigate the product of an effect but not the cause of it. Scientists only know what is in their vicinity and why should we regard their theories as final?

You cannot investigate love, it's either you "experience" it or not. A blind man can never understand the color red because he cannot see it. Yes he can't but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Most things to scientists are "unknown" so who are they to explain how the universe works?

However, it is obvious to everyone that the dog has a higher level of sensing danger. The ear sense is highly developed to the point that humans depend on the a lot and there is no better tracker than the dog. If a human has this ability I'm sure he/she will be called a witch or wizard or, seen as super-human. But in truth, it is only a well developed sense.

The Sight of an Eagle cannot be compared to an human, if a human does have that ability, we know what some people who have no idea what has happened to this person will call them. But humans have a higher developed brains, which is why we seem to dominate the other animals. But we dont have what they have. If we did, I'm sure we will understand the Universe better.

I personally think,rather than develope meaningless robots or artificial devices, we should work towards developing our brains to match out minds.

Consciousness is the greatest unsolved problem in all of science, It remain unsolved. Once it is understood, every knowledge becomes obvious.

Lennycool:
Humanism has nothing to do with brilliance, your ignorance on the subject shows.

Stop bringing Humanism to this debate. It's not like I am advertising a god here. I am only saying the Human Mind is the key to solutions. If your mind isn't brilliant your output will be poor. Note that and don't shift the post. It's clear who is ignorant and less exposed here.

The Egyptians and Greeks believed in stupid things but did that mean they didn't discover anything worthwhile.
Romans built roads and aqueducts, Greeks built the bedrock of democracy. Yes they observed Venus too. Venus is quite bright on account of it being close to the sun. You should add star gazing on the list of things you need to read up on.

What are the stupid things they believed in? You are talking about a civilization that is still a mystery to ours. Today's baby "scientists" stole majority of their knowledge from Egypt and are yet to explain the precise method of how the Pyramids were built.

I should add star gazing to my list? I don't need that.... Well maybe you should show me how you saw Venus in the night "as you claimed" . You only believe in evidence right? so tell me,how did you know the Greeks and Egyptians actually saw Venus from the night sky? But you reject their claim of gods..... double standards.

More mumbo jumbo. Without the brain there is no mind.
We are nothing but clusters of atoms.

How did you escape being a christian? I think being deluded is a Nigerian thing,whether religious or not. Without the brain there is no mind?

The brain is the hardware that the mind uses for its functioning. Someone’s brain may get damaged, but the mind may still continue functioning normally.

In the case of plants, they have no brain, and yet they have a mind. Experiments have shown how they respond to the moods of the gardener and speed up or slow down their growth in response. This illustrates that even plants possess a mind.

This is no debate but re-education of your mind. But I doubt you can learn from me because you are extremely arrogant.

God mind?
Well this shows the height of your irreligious delusions, the 10 percent brain fact is a laughable myth, over the course of a day humans use 100℅ of their brain.
Its only that we fully understand just 10%.
All the 10 percent crap is from movies and maybe your divinity books.




Racism too?
What else will you bring to the table.
The white man as you say has provided substantial evidence for his claim your divinity chumps have not.

Listen I'm not here to trade abusive words with someone I don't know over the internet. However you should simply boycott any post of mine if you are indeed a humanist as you claim you are. I would rather discus with someone on similar mindset. Please ignore my posts next time....we don't vibrate at the same frequency! I only come on nairaland to mingle with Nigerians not to fight them. If I continue with this negative debate,I'm leaning towards the negative

Ignore me and I wish you all the best!

Lennycool:
Oh I wanted to avoid this argument but you pushed my hand

I am glad you are man enough to challenge your self given label. Lets see how much you know....

Explain how I don't fit the label. Since you know more about secular humanism than I.

You don't talk like one. I do not sense a brilliant mind,sorry

Well yeah I've seen venus before, its visible in the night sky sometimes even the Greeks and Egyptians noticed it
As for the other planets they are well supported by evidence and most can be seen if I were to buy a simple telescope, or go to an observatory.
Not to mention satellite imagery.
You can't say the planets have no evidence.

Seriously you have seen Venus?!! Can you give evidence of that? You are bringing the Egyptians and Greeks into this,the same people who believed in Marmaids. Remember when you argued marmaids cannot exist? But you believe they actually saw planet Venus at night. Can you take a picture and show me please. I want to see what you saw. I have got a telescope.

All you know is theories(like the christians) not practicals.

And you base your knowledge on what?
A bunch of divinity crap.
Written by guys that just pulled facts from there asses.
Scientist provide evidence for the little they know and I would rather accept that than some hookah blowing fake.

Unlike you I actually study my environment,question everything. I know the Human Mind is the essence of his output. I'm sure that is evident enough. I'm into human Psychology and you and I know that you cannot expect stability from an unstable mind. This is all I say,unless you want to disagree with the obvious.

Humans dream and this has nothing to do with chemicals in the brain,but the fact that body is no more obstructing the mind. I do not expect you to know this,or maybe you do...who knows!

I've heard your theories before, God is man blah blah blah, while I agree with the aspect of man helping himself, we are not Gods, we are simply more intelligent animals. Absolutely nothing special about us.

This is why I said your mind isn't at it's best. Normally a brilliant mind will be able to detect hidden metaphors written in any book. If a god is 100% intelligence and humans are only using 10% brain ability,a brilliant mind will know that enhancing the human mind will make it reach the level we could call the God Mind. I feel bad because it feels like I am arguing with a 5 year old.

I'm very open minded. I will believe anything supported by evidence.Whether it be Santa clause or elves or gnomes or God. Anything.
I just don't see any reason to make any exception to that rule.

And you saw Venus with you eyes.....you even claimed the Egyptians did. Like the Christians,you pick and choose.

Do you have evidence Man developed from apes or do you just trust the theory of the white man?

Lennycool:
Yeah sure whatever dude
If not believing in fairy tales makes me close minded then fvck yeah that's what I am.

A good way to back out. Nice try! You are no better than the religious guys. Both sides know so little.

Attractive?? How??

Lennycool:
Well I think I do ifenes.
Secular humanist reject everything that has no concrete evidence. We don't believe in any God especially not one that will solve human problems. We believe only humans can save themselves. We believe in human equality and freedom.
You should read more on it
Cause I know my sh!t, I didn't just pick the name

You don't fit your label sorry.... And please stop using "We" to what you do not know.

Since you claim to reject things without evidence,I wonder if you asked for evidence when you were told there were 9 Planets in the Solar system. Have you personally seen other Planets? You were made aware that modern human who study science,whom you call "Scientists" know only 10%of how the Universe works,which obviously mean they don't know anything. You base your knowledge on these guys?

You don't even know what God is or what was mis-translated as God. Nature is big and vast and stuff people call Super-natural are misinterpreted. All things are natural.

Problem is someone like you is as closed minded as a indoctrinated person. You may not be religious but you follow a movement.

Lennycool:
Then you clearly don't know the meaning of secular humanism.

You can only be a reflection of what you are. You don't know much about what you claim to be.

Lennycool:
Ifenes and his mumbo jumbo
That's why I'm also a secular humanist. I reject all things supernatural.

Natural not Super-natural. You don't sound like a secular humanist to me,maybe to others.