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DoctorAlien:
So you worship nothing?

I use things,I don't bow or pray/depend on them. Oh I worship puzzy tho

roymary:
Your spiritual eyes are blind.

How do you know? Because I am not a member of your cult?

DoctorAlien:
HCpaul,

If there is no GOD, what is the basis for morality?

Morality is just a matter of opinion. It is not set on stones as to what is right or wrong. You make yours,I make mine. I could say meat eating is immoral and can build a religion/cult that would consider it a sin to eat meat.

Someone asked if Bestiality is a sin,then I said why would sleeping with animals be a sin? what about eating them or using their skin for clothing? What do you say to that?

Our opinions determines what we consider to be moral or not.

DoctorAlien:
Ifenes,

I have a question for you: what do you worship?

Must I worship anything?

solite3:
yes

Care to share the details of this god?

Ain't all pastors fake? You serve an unverified god

solite3:
you don't need to believe in religion to know that there is God

Has this god been verified?

Only on paper

I wish the same for other Nigerians who want to break free from religion.

tete7000:
Like I have already said when people like you argue against christianity all I see is anger, bitterness and delusion. You write up above highlights those traits sadly. If you want to understand the bible, go on your knees, pray that God light up your mind with his light of faith. Only then can some of those acts that seem confused to you within the whole context of man, God and salvation begins to make sense to you.

When last did going dowm on your kneels helped you pay you bills? Your explanation is childish,I could see you trying to dance around my questions. Besides I am not bitter about the Bible,I know what it is all about. It has nothing to do with Christianity. But more to do with how the ancient used allegories to narrate Astrology. It's right there in your face but you don't know it.

And did I hear you say I am brainwashed or indoctrinated? If I am, then I wonder what happens to you.

Yes you are because you would probably be a Muslim and defend Allah if you were born in Zamfara to a Muslim family. You are what you are due to the environment that raised you.

I like you was indoctrinated as a kid,but lucky enough to escape the matrix of organized religion.

The book you derived these atheistic thoughts from, na you write them? The thoughts inside then are they originally yours?

I became a non believer in god by reading the bible. I could tell god was a lie. The book of Genesis clearly showed there was no god. When you read similar stories from the vedas,which was a much older book,you could tell they were many visitors from the stars who(as claimed by the books) were humanoid like us and were here for other purposes. The Bible god(s) was no different

From your mother's womb, did you come with those thoughts? So what make you feel not indoctrinated in your atheistic thoughts if I may ask. Those are the kind of incoherence that laddens the thought of people like you.

Curiosity and the thirst for knowledge which is encoded in my DNA became activated. I decided to find things out myself rather than beleive the many lies. What is the point believing in negative reasoning like..... I must fear a god,and if I don't I will burn in hell? I have a mind and can reason. I am not a robot. It seems you are at the moment.


I asked you a question. Would you obey the "fictional bible god" and stone wayward kids to death or kill a woman who didn't marry as a virgin?

shreck:
Colossians 1:15
(Living Translation)
Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,
The lord Jesus is God not a replica.
But a lot of people cannot fathom the length and breath of Gods love.
And deny this truth.
(No man has seen Good at anytime)refers to God the father of spirits.
However, we are not men(humus paracletusl
We are sons of God(not Abraham's sons l
We are joint heirs with the Christ of God.
Amen
Behold what manner of love the father has given unto us(that we should be called the sons of God)

Did the man you claimed to be jesus write that?

tete7000:
You see why I said you never really read the bible? How can a book that contain decalogue not set rules? What are rules if not the commandments? Jesus further summarised the commandments into two and explain how it is all above love of God and love of man, yet you claim bible doesn't set any rules. Maybe you need to sit down, open your mind and objectively look into the bible again.

As regarding the book containing ancient books? No big deal, the book talks about an 'ancient of day' - The GOD, the one who existed before anyone else. So anybook that details his story must equally be ancient. Don't you agree?

I wanted you to come out of your shell first before I went further. You can say you have an indoctrinated mind,nothing more. Your second paragraph shows you are a student of your pastor. You vomit what you learned from Sunday school.

I have read the bible and a lot more books than you can imagine. I have a library of better books.

When I said rules,I meant the ones which included stoning wayward kids to death, or Deuteronomy. 22:13-21 which says when you marry a woman and she isn't a virgin,you must stone her to death. Also the part that encourages killing those with a different faith or serve a different god,also the part that thinks its okay to rape under aged girls etc

If you don't do the above,you are not obeying your god. Well you may claim you are now in the time of grace but who said that? Show me a verse where your god,Yahweh proposed grace.

I said the bible has nothing to do with Christianity but the worship of the Sun and practice of Astrology.

tete7000:
Christianity is my religion and you don't think the bible has anything to do with that religion? It is either you are not telling the truth or you read a different type of book and think it is bible.

Anytime I read the thoughts of atheists, agnostics, etc all I see is incoherence and delusions.

Are you saying the bible set rules for christianity? It clearly doesn't. Your rules are not according to the book,not even close. Besides the book is made up of several ancient books.

tete7000:
Thats what you think. I probably have read more than you ever did, including some of those books you think you want to recommend to me. I want you to know I delve deep into philosophy too - including those of people like Hegel and Marx. Unlike you who wouldn't want to read the bible, I read bible and many other thoughts of people who try to disprove the existence of God. Your types of book don't disturb me, they only make me see into the minds of goddess persons. Be like me, take up the challenge and study the bible and other books that talk about God, then our discussion will be on even ground.

You read other books like...... And you still see the bible as a moral guardian? I have read the bible and it has nothing to do with your religion.

tete7000:
Sorry, that's how far I can help you.

You need to help yourself first. I can give you much better books to read. Books that can actually help you.

tete7000:
Find a bible and read. You will find there who he is. Best of luck.

Thanks I don't read Jewish story books

tete7000:
Jesus didn't promise you that. If in doubt, read this:

Gospel Luke 12:49-53 ©
Jesus said to his disciples: ‘I have
come to bring fire to the earth, and
how I wish it were blazing already!
There is a baptism I must still
receive, and how great is my
distress till it is over!
‘Do you suppose that I am here
to bring peace on earth? No, I tell
you, but rather division. For from
now on a household of five will be
divided: three against two and two
against three; the father divided
against the son, son against father,
mother against daughter, daughter
against mother, mother-in-law
against daughter-in-law, daughter-
in-law against mother-in

Who is jesus? Did he write that?

Christianity can never bring unity

They still gave fake names. I don't check names I promise

jossyphobia:
because He's a merciful God and also a consuming fire
He created the good and bad
There's a lot of reason why you should fear him.
consider your thought and my thought which are distinct but he knows both.

And such God doesn't exist.

gentlegenius:
No wonder... Now I see.
So tell me, which holy makes sense?

Which holy? Your question makes no sense

elisinho:
what moses saw was JESUS CHRIST (I AM )
JESUS is the I AM he even said it in John 8vs 58 before Abraham I AM its know as Christophene
we should know the difference between Christophene and theophany please

Did jesus write a book? How do you know the story was true. I could say before Gandhi I was. would you believe me?

buccunmie:
Go to heaven n find out

Heaven is an allegory,its not real.

buccunmie:
Well, he requested to see God but it was recorded dat he only saw his back view I.e God walked past him and he could only see his back.

He it has a back,it will definitely have a face,hands and joystick right?

gentlegenius:
But that wasn't my own statement. It's like that in that Bible portion, or are you telling me that the Bible made no sense?

The bible made no sense. It is a compilation of different opinions of people who lived in different societies.

WhatOnEarth:
No offence taken... But try to investigate the matter before you spew nonsense. You could damn your soul in hell all by your own doing. If Yahweh is a fictional character then I guess you're just a fiction character yourself. Or from whence cometh thou?

You can see me but cannot see yahweh because of one us is a fictional character

9jatatafo:
It is the aroma of the burnt/roasted animal offerings that was pleasing to GOD. GOD is a spirit. No where in the Bible says GOD ate the animals that were burnt/roasted.

So what happened to the meat? Why does the bible god need to smell dead animal? I bet he smelled the meal Abraham cooked for him right?

Forgive until you can take it no more. Yahweh of the bible is a typical example of a fictional character that never forgave. The dude even created a pit of torment due to his hatred for those who don't love him. Be like Mandela,not Yahweh

9jatatafo:
OP, let it be made known to you that NO MAN have seen God. Don't mislead people.

So who did they offer burnt/roasted animals/offering to? A spirit god eating roasted animals? Can you explain that?

Zoharariel:
Tanx for your concise post but what can we do than to keep educating them.


* 2109 B.C. Enlil ordered Moses up Mt. Sinai, landed his rocket (space ship) on the mount and, with an amplifier, told, the Israelites to reject all other Nibiran gods, spend every seventh day worshiping him, subjugate women and kids, refrain from murder, adultery, theft and false witness.

They must not, he demanded, crave others’ homes, wives, slaves and property. He gave Moses stone tablets he’d inscribed with his commandments and showed him how to build a temple and an Ark of the Covenant for the tablets.

Above the tablet drawer in the Ark, Moses must build a Talk-To-Enlil communicator (sporting two gold cherubs). Through the Ark, they could message Enlil, pose their question, and get his “Yes” or “No” answers.

* 2024 B.C. Enlil revealed he knew where Enki’d hidden Alalu’s nukes. With Anu’s approval, Ninurta (Enlil's 1st son) nuked Sinai; Nergal nuked Sodom, Gomorra, and made the Dead Sea dead.

Sumerian refugees fled throughout the Mediterranean and along the Volga to Geogia, Sumara, Finland and along the Danube to Dacia, Hungary as well as to India and the Far East.

* 2023 B.C. Nuclear fallout blew over and killed all Sumer, but not Bablylon. Marduk, now supreme, declared Babylon Sumer’s capital.

* 2016, B.C. For forty days, with a crystal-tipped electrum stylus, Endubscar, Master Scribe of Eridu, Sumer, wrote on a lapis lazuli tablet what his boss, Enki–a seven-foot tall man who served as Chief Scientist for a goldmining expedition to Earth from the planet Nibiru–dictated.

Enki stayed out of Endubscar’s sight. Endubscar’s narrative, compiled from data Zecharia Sitchin retrieved from the Eridu Genesis, the Atra Hasis and the Epic of Gilgamesh to create, The Lost Book of Enki, the main source for Free Humanity.

* 331 B.C. Alexander The Great reached Babylon in and rushed to the ziggurat temple to grasp the hands of Marduk as conquerors before him had done. But the great god was dead. Alexander saw Marduk’s body preserved in oils in his ziggurat.

Thanks for these info. That is where the bible stories were plagiarized from. I have only stopped making reference to Enlil and enkhidu because most Nigerians haven't got a clue about them. They think the bible stories are the original

gentlegenius:
The portion above only say "They ate and drank". It didn't say they ate and drank with God. Pls don't add anything to the scriptures.

You made no sense.

visijo:
moses didn't see God.. That version of bible is not the real bible. Check king James version, that is the correct bible for a true christian... Moses could have been the only man to see God, but he didn't see God.. So dont be misguided by those new world order bibles..

King James the bisexual King who edited the bible to suit himself? But the same bible said Abraham saw his face. So you see you are contradicting that part. Just say you don't know.